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ascii_butugychag: where yes, usg doing anything but fertilizing the grass from underneath is laughable
mircea_popescu: only thing it could do passibly atm is suck cock, and thats the one thing it's ideologically committed to not doing.
ascii_butugychag: perhaps mircea_popescu is posting from the future, from among the ruins
mircea_popescu: then when reality contradicts you... i guess will continue, because hey. gotta believe usg is the little shitengine that can.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i thought it was a usg-powered co. and therefore could as easily dispense btc (obtained from prisoners, or toomim) as gold dubloons
mircea_popescu: yes, please : move the fuck on.
assbot: R.I.P. Bitcoin. It’s time to move on. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qm7IzY )
mircea_popescu: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/01/19/r-i-p-bitcoin-its-time-to-move-on/ << this is actually the first fucking time washpo did something useful.
mircea_popescu: they discovered this can't actually be done.
mircea_popescu: lol apparently 21co held a "hackathon" paying 400 to the first guy to order pizza with their whatever it is
ascii_butugychag: n log n for the worst, iirc
mircea_popescu: there's a few things like that.
ascii_butugychag: the other thing is that the operations involved in processing a new tx are O(function of mempool size)
mircea_popescu: but iirc this was mentioned and discussed a year ago, part and parcel of all the "Scaling" bs is a sheer cluelessness as to what a node actually is / what it does / how it looks.
mircea_popescu: well we're not there yet.
mircea_popescu: which is how come i even know people who can digest the concept of stuffing 256gb in a box.
mircea_popescu: all from the blockspace perspective.
mircea_popescu: this is you know, "sum total bytes as if they went into blocks"
ascii_butugychag: ah then ok
mircea_popescu: but there's only 9006 txn / 28.00 mb worth of mempool atm altogether.
ascii_butugychag: whatever pedagogic point mircea_popescu was trying to make by not giving the answer away, imho is made...
ascii_butugychag: wish he'd share. even the pseudocode.
ascii_butugychag: and then into the stratosphere
ascii_butugychag: 'Quoting directly from its manpage, the keyrings facility is primarily a way for drivers to retain or cache security data, authentication keys, encryption keys and other data in the kernel.' << i don't recall asking for this to be a thing.
ascii_butugychag: like buying a briquet of pressed cockroaches at the butcher's.
mircea_popescu: you're not the only one.
BingoBoingo: I sometimes wonder if F2Pool's English language PR strategy is simply a method to get people to leave them the fuck alone.
mircea_popescu: they got the leading cramtechnology.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376607 << heh. isn't kako the guy that went through ~100 fans to find ONE that worked ?
thestringpuller: today on reddit lulz: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41ps56/q_for_gregory_maxwell_would_it_be_within/cz4abxk << "Are you sure a bunch of devs have more coins than Coinbase, Bitpay, the Winklebros, Tim Draper, etc.? Sigh, the delusion of grandeur is strong with Core extremists."
gribble: The expected time between blocks taking 40 minutes and 0 seconds to generate is 11 hours and 54 seconds
gribble: The expected time between blocks taking 20 minutes and 0 seconds to generate is 1 hour, 18 minutes, and 50 seconds
gribble: Inside the Chinese Bitcoin Mine That's Grossing $1.5M a Month ...: <http://motherboard.vice.com/read/chinas-biggest-secret-bitcoin-mine>; Motherboard | Bitcoin mining | Page 1 | Motherboard: <http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/bitcoin+mining>; µTorrent's Shady Bitcoin-Mining Program Could Blow Up Your ...: <http://motherboard.vice.com/read/torrents-shady-bitcoin-mining-program- (1 more message)
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: you haven't seen the videos ?
ascii_butugychag: but i don't have a mole there.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: even if no fire suppression systems, they ~do~ cool with water
ascii_butugychag: most of the damage in such a case is from sprinkler system, even
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: you won't see smoke, this is not the oil fields of kuwait
BingoBoingo: An ounce of thermite can castrate substantial captial
pete_dushenski: there's that
BingoBoingo: Just the F2Pool enigma made for some interesting Astroturf for about 36 hours
mircea_popescu: more pie for them.
mircea_popescu: they certainly don't mind the bitfury idiots having been idiots.
BingoBoingo: And F2Pool/Discus Fish for all practical purpose appears to be completely impenetrable in their actual intent to the Anglophone
BingoBoingo: Yet even the threat of that becoming mining news is already having a significant effect of the social media shit burbling noises
ascii_butugychag: 'the bitcoin economy' ahahahal0l
BingoBoingo just thrilled he pulled the trigger on publishing http://qntra.net/2016/01/radeon-refresh-gets-shrink-to-14-nm/
assbot: Bitcoin Classic, and the future of the /r/BitcoinXT subreddit. : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/23cQrOW )
mircea_popescu: wishes to buy them too ;)."
mircea_popescu: The human incentive to adopt this chain would be incredibly low though as everyone has GregCoins now and any exchange that decides to allow arbitrage between the two chains is going to see huge dumps onto the GregCoin chain which will quickly obliterate the price. Why? Because the very large majority that own Bitcoins want the blocksize to increase. I will also happily flush my GregCoins the instant some stupid schmuck
mircea_popescu: "Probably yes. It's the equivalent of a little boy taking his ball and going home because everyone is not playing according to his rules. It's a useless gesture unless there is a factory of fresh asic chips rolling off the production line in anticipation of the new POW and/or there is a large chunk of the Bitcoin economy that is willing to completely abandon the larger block chain.
mircea_popescu: in other news, teh reddit astroturf brigade has done some studying, and is now quoting [without attribution, of course] what i said last time, but with the persons switched. because yeah, totally, that's how things work o.O
copypaste: "The best bitcoin exchange is needed for serious and professional bitcoin traders. Bitcoin security must be impeccable. Banking relationships must be sound and reliable. The trading engine must be fast. Order types must be advanced. And profits must be able to be multiplied with Bitcoin margin trading so you can leverage long bitcoin positions or short bitcoin positions." from kraken.com
BingoBoingo: <copypaste> What is the difference between a "Bitcoin Exchange" and a "Premier Bitcoin Exchange" ? << Rectal dialation necessary for delivery
copypaste: What is the difference between a "Bitcoin Exchange" and a "Premier Bitcoin Exchange" ?
mircea_popescu: taking it from 6 to 5 not only gives you a cheap 20% boost of thoroughput, but also significantly reduces the "probability to wait 1 hr for txn inclusion". by about 60% or so.
mircea_popescu: somehow that's the one hardfork nobody thought to mention.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone find it odd that the best way to "increase thoroughput", which is clean, safe and above all ecological (in that it brings the halvings closer) would actually be to re-set the time between blocks to something like 4-5 minutes ?
BingoBoingo: BuBuBuBut, yesterday the derps swore there was a whole exahash!
mircea_popescu: aand... 7 blocks in the past 2 hours.
mircea_popescu: so basically the comedy goldmine is really a comedy well.
mircea_popescu: the situation here is EXACTLY opposite, but they obviously lack anything other than the zombie drive.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny to me, because the vermin they regard as their progenitors, various "social rights activists" and whatnot benefitted from a context where each defeat made eventual victory more likely.
mircea_popescu: copypaste no, "these people" who aren't in any sort of sense people are merely laying the ground work for "the next battle", as they perceive the string of endless humiliations and buttrapes they receive.
mircea_popescu: otherwise... no. zero control and no buttons.
copypaste: mircea_popescu: i've heard some saying that miners won't "allow" the halving to occur because they would never "vote for" something so against their "best interest"...these people don't understand the social contract behind bitcoin of course, or even that miners don't vote on anything but who gets 25BTC
mircea_popescu: your "push button, i matter" mental model is only applicable here inasmuch as you're hypocritical enough to go "i planted tree, and got an apple, therefore am in control" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag neither is bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: easy money too seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s."
mircea_popescu: "Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a "collapse of the total financial system", as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with "S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005" but they find
mircea_popescu: so in other news, seeing how the next halving happens to more or less coincide with the expected next usg attempt to "save" bitcoin,
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 16:44:07; ascii_shmoocon: i can think of exactly one: an 'mp-hawala', where mo transacts with the other 17 or so olympians, indeed requires no minerz...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller all versions exist on teh network.
PeterL: would they be oppourtunistic vermin if there was not a block subsidy (fees only)?
PeterL: ascii_butugychag, is there a way to do bitcoin without the miners?
ascii_butugychag: yes, it is ecologically cleaner, ~for other nodes~
mircea_popescu: this is the first time i changed it since introducing the fucking concept back in 2012 ish.
ascii_butugychag: the thing that always bothered me about bitcoin is that miners are basically opportunistic vermin
thestringpuller: the hearnia is removed, the ecological contamination remains
ascii_butugychag: but yeah, there is a thick layer of them between us and mines.
mircea_popescu: much like irl it's pretty much the "home nat router" that is the problem.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much the "spv" nodes that are the problem.
ascii_butugychag: instead of the reverse.
ascii_butugychag: how about ~we~ isolate the idiots, for a change.
ascii_butugychag: the solution to overloaded and shitflooded trb nodes is... to have 1000x more of'em
pete_dushenski: could not have "ERROR: BANNED peer issuing heathen command." neh ?
ascii_butugychag: (have the thing auto-restart if oomkilled, but beyond this, no point unless you built a new one)
ascii_butugychag: and there is no reason to reboot these
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: are there other "elin" and "gisele" that you know of ? that are also for hire ? (nannies or models ?)
ascii_butugychag: but the standalone building without zombies on the grounds thing
ascii_butugychag: it isn't the hardware
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: you aren't entirely wrong about the ferrari, but you guessed the ~wrong ferrari~
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 12:33:58; mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/P1180684-1024x768.jpg << check it out, he propped them up on bricks of canadian money.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376523 << at $1.45 cad to usd, what else are they good for ? perhaps kindling but i'll hold off on that for as long as this boiler is working.
ascii_butugychag: trying to avoid the 'nazi submarine' feel of my old flat
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 06:54:03; BingoBoingo: Undoubtably to be unveiled on Contravex with a post title "Meet the Wet Nurses Volume 1: Elin and Gisele"
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376415 << this is particularly funny because girls around here, even "educated" ones, have never even ~heard~ of wetnurses. concept doesn't exist in their minds. can boobfeed yourself ? here, buy this $50/day majick formula. can't afford that ? petition the gov to give it to you for free (true tawk, this actually happened recently for parents who couldn't afford "hypoal
ascii_butugychag: and there is only so much room.
ascii_butugychag: like the ones i keep for running virii
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: he plays more games than i do. except he plays on dos or w/e
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 07:05:41; BingoBoingo: Who knows? Maybe by Child 9 pete acquires a G Wagon for the roads or lack thereof?
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: but you do realise that this is exactly, and i do mean exactly like the guy driving la ferrari snubbing nose at guy driving 488 gtb.
funkenstein_: I like this young man cause when he first came out he had the line, he went from asic to classic
ascii_butugychag: i paid less for my eizos than most lusers pay for 'dell' at the shop.
gabriel_laddel: aware intelligence emerges out of a vortex of telescoping intricacy like Excalibur being thrust through the surface by the Lady of the Lake. " -- http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/intel2.htm
gabriel_laddel: "Consider a transistor whose components are themselves transistors, whose components... Electrical engineers desperately woo the third dimension of circuit integration as they pack increasingly denser forests of linearly ordered planar devices onto increasingly larger chips. Perhaps the third dimension need not be height. Perhaps it is one of form, of complexity, of recursive fractal structure wherefrom mystic self-
assbot: Q for Gregory Maxwell: Would it be within consideration to implement a different PoW hardfork at the same time as Classic's? A: Yes, it would be possible to do that. Candidate code is already written. : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jg2GUl )
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 12:31:52; mircea_popescu: "Why four $800 monitors ? Mostly because I’m not a poorfag" << - >> <asciilifeform> ;;later tell pete_dushenski you ~do~ realize you bought the 'poorfag' non-'colouredge' or 'radiforce' eizos, right ? << lol i'm sure he'll be thrilled to hear.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376521 << it's funny, because i AM thrilled to hear that the self-proclaimed "poor slave" dood wearing the fucking rolex submariner on his wrist like it's been there since birth thinks that my new rolex datejust is sub-par. it really cements the theory that while stan is an indentured slave, it's his own choice to be there and the door is open. so ha!
ascii_butugychag: the minerz are ripe for a powocalypse, good and hard, imho
mircea_popescu: in no small part because in the past 75 minutes we had 3 blocks.
mircea_popescu: in other bitcoin network news, "Estimated Confirmation TimeVery Soon (High Priority)" txn waiting for the past half hour to be included.
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 18:53:40; ascii_butugychag: iirc mircea_popescu does have the 1377 w4r3z full tarball of al schwartz
funkenstein_: "Today, Kraken expands to the United States and Canada and acquires major exchanges Coinsetter and Cavirtex!"
ascii_butugychag: i still have the floppies!111
ascii_butugychag: and my seal thereof.
ascii_butugychag: iirc mircea_popescu does have the 1377 w4r3z full tarball of al schwartz
pete_dushenski: "the northern dykes have seen queer sights"
ascii_butugychag: the insemination of sam mcgee, or what was it
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mod6 all these big mpoe trades scared away your twatterbot
mircea_popescu: "I'm going back to the frozen north, where the pricks are hard and strong. Back to the land of the all-night stand-where the nights are six months long, where you get it in bits as hard as tin in the land where spunk is spunk - not a trickling stream of lukewarm cream, but a solid frozen chunk."
ascii_butugychag: '“It seems to me,” said Booker T., / “It shows a mighty lot of cheek / To study chemistry and Greek / When Mister Charlie needs a hand / To hoe the cotton on his land, / And when Miss Ann looks for a cook, / Why stick your nose inside a book?”'
assbot: Booker T. and W.E.B. by Dudley Randall : The Poetry Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jg164N )
mircea_popescu: somebody got some very bad news yesterday, coped in the manner these schmucks tend to cope.
mircea_popescu: what the everloving.
mircea_popescu: "A few days after the book was released, readers took the author, the illustrator and the publisher to task online for presenting a sanitized version of the life of Washington’s cook and other enslaved people. “An insulting tale that sprinkles glitter on rape, murder, torture and servitude,” wrote one outraged reviewer."
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: The rumbling noise actually comes from the baffles. Anyways China always has more fans to ship
ascii_butugychag: they can't take shear.
BingoBoingo: <jurov> my secret is to vacuum all the fans occassionally << yes, also have fans feeding fans fanned air. This done right can lead to powerful rumble sounds from machien
ascii_butugychag: and increasing res should do nothing but to make the curves smoother.
ascii_butugychag: to make the text as small as bearable
ascii_butugychag: or have the display behave in any way other than exactly like a photo enlarger:
ascii_butugychag: the one thing crapple got right:
jurov: my secret is to vacuum all the fans occassionally
BingoBoingo: The secret to surpressing the worse harmonics fan's can produce is running an AM radio in the same room.
phf: gets all excited during compilation, fan kick in "yeah, motherfucker, we're ~doing~ shit"
BingoBoingo also the person who likes computer fan noise, because conveys feelings of Power!!!
jurov: rly? how do i magnify the 27" 5K display to usable 40" ?
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: It's the shitty 13XX by 76X so Really 12 inches or less is the only way it does tolerable dpi
ascii_butugychag: like my grandfather's su tv set with water tank lens.
ascii_butugychag: or - at least in several key ways - the untouchables of india.
ascii_butugychag: and was it mircea_popescu who had the article with 'the inescapable kid in school who smells of amoeba'
mircea_popescu: when the weigher for the worth in pounds of flesh comes around, it god damned weighs.
ascii_butugychag: at the bottom you have folks who no longer care how many kg of shit is attached to body
mircea_popescu: there's a reason for this, it's natural.
mircea_popescu: imo they're scamps. (juveniles trying to live off recycling)
mircea_popescu: there is some merit in this.
mircea_popescu: punkman the bum is not violent. generally "below" would go towards more violence.
punkman: what's below the bum?
phf: yeah, i'm lost with the terminology. my view into the lazy world is through hipster bums, like crust punks and gypsters, and they are not very precise with their terminolgoy, or else they latch on to some word and aggressively use it to self identify
mircea_popescu: a punk is, of course, the eromenos in the typical pressure-driven homosexual relationships they engage in. a hooker's not the same as a harlot and so on and so forth
mircea_popescu: phf you know there's an entire classification of the ... idle members of society. hobo travels, will work. tramp won't work, but travels. bum doesn't travel. etc.
phf: mind and will go first, then the body
phf: hermit is not the same as hobo. i saw a hermit in india once, he lived in a cave and was well groomed within the limits of what was available to him. he smelled infinitely better then the bums that were begging in the street. for all practicle purpose american nerds are "hobos" with housing
mircea_popescu: this is just another restatement of the 'you won't find your soulmate in the brothel'. what are you, your own mother ?!
ascii_butugychag: 'englishman takes a bath every week, whether he needs it or not!' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: errors compound. without a star or other fixed outside...
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "maintaining homeostasis" sort of things and what you describe.
ascii_butugychag: sure. could shit on the floor, too
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag there's a problem of positive feedback loops.
gernika: Bathroom is down the hall, outside of the room.
ascii_butugychag: tolerate the boring.
ascii_butugychag: but the latter is precisely what happens in 'random bar with random people'
mircea_popescu: socialisation is an ability to interact with the other , not an ability to tolerate the boring.
mircea_popescu: they can't go to a random bar, they can't talk to random people.
ascii_butugychag: but ~inside the leprosorium~ yes
punkman: ascii_butugychag: I was looking at their website last week, pretty much confused lemming doing random shit
ascii_butugychag: they socialize very, very well
mircea_popescu: while these idiocies may well serve societal and political goals of wrinkled up old women / usg, they have no room in the world.
mircea_popescu: i really don't blame the kids themselves, they're being raped under the guise of education, and in two major ways : one to create a wholly delusional concept of "originality" which is so badly wound up in self-contradiction it causes most brains to shut down ; the other is more pervasive, they are prevented from socialising normally in a myriad ways and as such become incapable to work with others.
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 17:34:03; mircea_popescu: moreover, the wholly misplaced expectation of youthful enthusiasts that they may make a name for themselves through independently "creating" shit must be quashed.
mircea_popescu: https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage/issues/775 << poor surda, i guess he's trying the entire "push a mountain uphill to build strength" approach.
mircea_popescu: "Based in the heart of NYC, with strong banking and political partnerships, Coin.co is focused on establishing relationships with some of the world's most influential companies and institutions." << fancy that, website at least still exists.
punkman: mircea_popescu: dunno, a system that lets you build IRC on it but gets in the way when you try to build other things (forum/chan, filesharing, etc)
assbot: The Bitcoin believers - FT.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeqxWB )
mircea_popescu: sage then the message was not intended for them."
mircea_popescu: "Outgoing messages do not contain the explicit address of the recipient of the message. Therefore, every network participant attempts decryption of every message passing through the network even if the message was not originally intended for that network participant. Since only the actual recipient can successfully decrypt the messages intended for him, all network participants know that if they fail to decrypt the mes
mircea_popescu: punkman notably, the one difference between this and gossipd is that it really doesn't require so much trust. the paramount question isn't to make it possible for derps to safely exchange child porn or whatever, the paramount question is to make it possible to run a chan without having to bow down to an isp providing server space.
punkman: retroshare does p2p forums with gpg, but I wouldn't really trust the thing
mircea_popescu: spam shouldn't be a problem in a sane implementation of the above-discussed design
gernika: It has other problems as well, namely spam, which it was explicitly "designed" to prevent.
mircea_popescu: these people are writing code ?
mircea_popescu: "GPG is useless because if somebody manages to exchange the data while it is transferred to you, he probably also switched the key with his own to sign the application again so it looks valid."
mircea_popescu: tore a bunch of holes in the "logical arguments" of the retards, to exactly no effect. their logic consists of whatever they make algal blooms out of.
mircea_popescu: phf i was one of the very few ro writers that never migrated.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing. there shall never be such a thing.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the wholly misplaced expectation of youthful enthusiasts that they may make a name for themselves through independently "creating" shit must be quashed.
mircea_popescu: i guess this is perhaps not obvious, tho i'd expect it to be : the odds of recent code created by random derps not in the wot being ever recommended, used or regarded positively here are somewhere between nil and epsilon. even old, widely distributed, supposedly well reviewed code turns out pretty shitty on examination.
phf: end of 90s remnants of su intelligentsia, who grew up on stolen, non-localized hardware in the 70s and 80s, were actively arguing for translit. i still periodically get emails from hard science types written in translit. i remember some of those people were really mad when emacs 20 added localization support (MULE was particularly dodgy take on it). i didn't understand what the big deal was back then though. ironically i didn't have
mircea_popescu: shrug. you a dev there gernika ?
mircea_popescu: it's rank nonsense. "back then, people owned people, which is bad" "why ?" "i dunno, bahamas said so"
mircea_popescu: PeterL there is no way to explain the background of the culture in an ideologically acceptable manner.
mircea_popescu: gernika the idea was to make a chan not to convey short text messages in a roundabout manner.
gernika: I suppose in the same sense as bitcoin exists.
PeterL: mircea_popescu, and instead of relying on parents to explain to thier children the background of the culture, we must ban the book. Bleh.
mircea_popescu: check that out, they put wheels on a shoe.
assbot: Children’s book recalled for superficial portrayal of slavery - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiHXKd )
assbot: Nissan TITAN Warrior Concept makes world debut at the 2016 North American International Auto Show - Nissan Online Newsroom ... ( http://bit.ly/1PejehR )
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 14:53:03; mircea_popescu: basically, the correct way to implement this, is to have a "universal" key and have people encrypt to whatever keys they want. if they include the universal, then it's public. if they don't, then only whoever they encrypted to can see it.
punkman: thestringpuller: what's a "key recovery service"?
mircea_popescu: lol how are they gonna "compete", who gives a shit about that thing ?
mircea_popescu: back before the whores starting pretending like government is a job.
mircea_popescu: (this point, incidentally, is uncontroversial in the chinese space)
ascii_butugychag: ... they did
mircea_popescu: they wanna compute, learn to abc.
mircea_popescu: all the world's languages can go invent their own computers. i'll read them in the afterlife.
copypaste: or, do you not think all the world's languages are worthy of support?
copypaste: what would you have instead of unicode, which would support all the world's languages?
mircea_popescu: copypaste the solution to infestation isn't to draw lines on the floor and try to keep the bugs from crossing over. the solution is to fog the place. no more unicode.
mircea_popescu: you wanna look at them, paint them any way you wish. you wanna communicate them, stick to ((),())
copypaste: i don't think so, but i do remember that in the newest revision skintones were added, which was strange
mircea_popescu: copypaste were you here for the "the humanoids in unicode are the wrong color" discussion ?
ascii_butugychag: the resolution was that you can pry matrices from my cold, dead hands.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was resolved, and the resolution was "no more bullshit"
ascii_butugychag: shit are we gonna have to do the maths notation thread again.
mircea_popescu: html going the way of the ^G would be a greater win than most anything else. and not just for computing sanity, either.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they'd be "improving" this too.
mircea_popescu: but then the only reason this obviousness is obvious is because THEY FUCKING CANT.
mircea_popescu: something like this is fucking obvious, even to the lowliest derp : there is no concept of "wordpress theme" in the fucking code, and if you want to "skin it" you eitgher write one or, as the derp case usually is, go to a repository and load one you like. nobody goes "hey, we should be able to decide what wordpress theme is used to display this article IN THE FUCKING ARTICLE".
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assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 17:35:59; ascii_butugychag: the other outputs also other things
mircea_popescu: "you can install fixedsys to do any glyph translation you want on your system ; you may never reference glyphs when talking to other systems"
mircea_popescu: maybe the chinese take care of that.
mircea_popescu: next hopefully we do away with the notion of "font".
ascii_butugychag: ah i thought you meant the defunct american corp
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you know, the orcs that don't have alphabet because their mommies were sluts or something.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely nothing valid or even remotely interesting you might need to "express yourself" through writing into the book sideways and with a round hole in the middle of the page.
mircea_popescu: and honestly doing away with this particular bowdlerization of the idea of freedom where sites "can change" is such a great win just by itself...
mircea_popescu: so it kills the browser and everything web, all the way down.
mircea_popescu: the idea isn't to "surf websites" and "easy upload and download". the idea is to replace the motherfucking browser altogether, so that a chanpage is created out of discrete resources requested from peers exactly like the browser works but without touching any sort of web anything.
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 14:57:37; mircea_popescu: copypaste it'll take a while to implement, you'll have to pull in gpg too, and some other shit. but once done it does obsolete current chanology. i can't conceive who or how could run a chan anymore on anything else.
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 14:38:49; mircea_popescu: who the fuck wrote grep so it NEEDS newlines ?
mircea_popescu: seems to me the conjugate separation is a rather universal solution
ascii_butugychag: gotta love especially the part where 'you did not break our system, but a weak variant which we for no good reason give to all testers!111'
ascii_butugychag: (even the volkischer beobachter makes fun of'em)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: letter emerged from my first impression upon seeing their latest babble
adlai: (fwiw the self-styled ABC is a super-secret facebook group called "advanced bitcoin" where all recent discussion seems to be about the bitcoinclassic 'slack' channel... at least they also have the policy of requiring new entrants to read 'logs', so it's not all noise)
adlai: mircea_popescu: at a certain point, you just have to stop editing and shoot the bastard
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: he's in #monero via the irc2p relay
copypaste: I guess I'll have to ask psi the current status of the project
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.5 << got the early bitcointards pretty incensed.

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