mircea_popescu: it is the direct equivalent of entropy-diddling for keysystems.
mircea_popescu: the ONLY viable attack against the wot is getting people to act in systematic manners.
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:01:21; ascii_field: would let you wander off to wherever spies go when a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized that almost all the ideas that I hold now, that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He took my hand.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the corruptive influence of bitcoin over enemies works in gpg and v space too.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing fundamentally wrong with being a dozen different oens.
asciilifeform: there is a more serious problem
polarbeard: I don't know how to resolve the fact that he doesn't like people build stuff for nodejs
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: The solution is not simply new name. It is building a history and working towards the comprehensive exam.
asciilifeform: this is why i almost never 'pm' at all these days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and then the differences evaluated and it's just not fucking worth it.
polarbeard: that's okay, I won't submit anything if you don't want / have the time to read
mod6: the dispute? i dunno. his ident was 'punindented
mircea_popescu points out that all this private talk just makeswork down the line.
mircea_popescu: mod6 there's two (very general) problems here. one is that well, identification's always iffy. how do you go "x=y" when it comes to ids ? the other is that well, with or without wot trust, the guy can still write patches etc. not like anyone can prevent it. not to say that it shouldn't be resolved by any means.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my point re: the mingw thread was that it is entirely possible to write a proggy, for whatever broken & braindamaged box, without inserting ANY bytes that i did not personally decide to insert.
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: no, but it makes the blog part work more smoothly given how github leiks da censorship
trinque: polarbeard: just go talk to ben_vulpes and work out whatever happened there.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: needed created
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: is the categories page you used built into the theme or did that have to be created?
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: But you don't own that url in even the pretend sense of having a domain name
BingoBoingo: Shows your growth over time or lack thereof
BingoBoingo: polarbeard: Your best bet is likely starting a blog and putting things you might eventually submit there
thestringpuller: this wouldn't change on same machine no? (like pulling blockchain off one drive then putting on another drive, but inside same machine)
thestringpuller: or is it like the fdisk thing where you should --verify-all on restart even if blockchain is downloaded?
thestringpuller: is it safe to transplant the blockchain between hard drives once it's completed?
mod6: polarbeard is punindented, i very much appreciate his offer of help to work on the R.I. but this is a non-starter until ben and polarbeard/punindented reconcile their differences.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> polarbeard: I apprecate your offer to work on the Reference Implementation, but before you get too far along you need to reconcile that -1 from ben. << the what now ?!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i was even under the impression that the eulora build process was microshit-free << how are you going to make a windows binary "microshit-free" ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes what's the story re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-01-2016#1374179 ?
asciilifeform: mod6: is this in the log ?
mod6: I think you need to ack your previous identity and make ammends. Thats the first step.
jurov: rather, heard horror storied about mingw
mod6: polarbeard: I apprecate your offer to work on the Reference Implementation, but before you get too far along you need to reconcile that -1 from ben.
asciilifeform: (i am about as far from the project as could be imagined)
polarbeard: and tells you to shut up and accept the dick
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> just imagine a box where you can't pop a shell & grep << iirc they eventually got a grep in windows too
asciilifeform: i will develop ~for~ nintendo, if the money is right. but no amount of money is pay enough for developing ON a nintendo.
asciilifeform: but who the everliving fuck cares.
asciilifeform: you don't need vs for this, either.
polarbeard: but did you sign® them?
asciilifeform: (which microshit OFFICIALLY proclaims to only be possible using their turdchain)
asciilifeform: no 'runtimes' or other dependency crud needed.
asciilifeform: naked winblowz box, straight from the crate.
thestringpuller: aha. does this require posix compliance add-ons in the Windows box?
asciilifeform: (you can cross-compile trivially, and gcc gives 10x the compactness of vs crud. just treat the box as a kind of nintendo.)
asciilifeform: the funny part is that i have written REAMS of code for winblowz.
thestringpuller: The only people who got anything done around there was DevOps who had a strict (Run linux)
thestringpuller: Eventually all the devs were given macs, (Oh boy upgrade from diahrea to solid feces).
thestringpuller: Working on a winblowz box is the worst experience ever. I did so for 1.5 years writing JBoss web applets. Everyone thought "Oh you can run the dev environment in windows, well you're crazy. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS" to which I would revolt saying, "Your development process is insane which is why you spent 2.5 mil bringing in AGILE consultants to reduce your bottom line, which didn't fix any of the real problems."
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Because Qntra needs the potential to host wider varieties of content objectionable to shitgnomes
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i can work on an apple box, with a good bit of sweat. i cannot work on a winblowz box.
BingoBoingo: What works for thedrinkingrecord would be unacceptably for Qntra
thestringpuller: interesting to see all the love for Gentoo
asciilifeform: and the effort required to set it up for any kind of serious work vastly exceeds the effort used to set up a gentoo box
BingoBoingo: I use dreamhost for thedrinkingrecord. It's cost controlled and don't get surprise bills when DDoS
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it is a complete piece of shit
asciilifeform: l0l are them pigs flyin'
LquidNinjaAssets: yes plus all the security holes MP found on there...just something super basic that could be recommended by my wot would be great, thank you
mircea_popescu: just a simple "isis finally moving to pgp, like b-a/alf/mp said they should. usg petrified about actual, strong cryptography - as opposed to the ecc and assorted shit they peddle - being deployed by those opposing its reign of terror"
mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> is the tweet deleted? i took screenshots of the pgpgram << it would be. pgp BURNSSSS teh usterrorists.
LquidNinjaAssets: I am in the wot
LquidNinjaAssets: something either Pete, or Alf uses
mircea_popescu: <punkman> this doesn't matter in log in most cases << for one thing, alf was considering using the log for dumping and working with mempool.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 19:46:52; mircea_popescu: marginally speaking, if i take random user's ipad and replace it with another ipad, random user'd never know.
asciilifeform: study the linux loader to see what 'dynamic' means. static is simply... not doing this
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 19:29:50; mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez? << there's room for one.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384237 << what is the nonobvious thing re: static compilation ?
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 19:02:54; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384173 << do you mean 'the full orchestra' as advertised on trb ml?
polarbeard: saving bytes from hashes to spend them in "oops!" all around
polarbeard: its okay, they actually implemented rotat... well
mircea_popescu: whoever the fuck does stupid shit like "substring hashes" fundamentally misunderstands what cryptography is all about
polarbeard: somebody against displaying full hashes in the log instead of substrings?
BingoBoingo: They also naturally live in camps and so blend in with local bipedal fauna
jurov: From: Gypsy <gypsy@thedoccorp.com> Subject: Programmer at $399/ Week ...orly?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "About a week ago, this pretty girl messages me out of the blue and we hit it off. We talked that night up until 5 AM and we have so much things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met a girl like that" << holy shit, this "all that much" evaluates to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people. << It's like the redditor version of my foray into fiction
mircea_popescu: and the problem now dawns : nobody gives a shit's ass what you do to your emacs
mircea_popescu: now do the same to alf.
mircea_popescu: marginally speaking, if i take random user's ipad and replace it with another ipad, random user'd never know.
ben_vulpes: laptop or bride, they'd be...separate physical instantiations of 'bride' or 'nut-frier'?
punkman: ben_vulpes: static because for one, hoping user has the right openssl/bdb/etc shared lib version results in forks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but none of these are the core of the matter. suppose you buy one, and i give you another.
ben_vulpes: a glib answer'd be "because steve died", a more pragmatic one "because they don't compile the bitcoin reference implementation", but i don't think either of those are what you're thinking.
ben_vulpes: I personally don't understand the reasons beyond "it's the right thing to do with the reference implementation, dummy. also, fuck drepper."
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez? << there's room for one.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384173 << do you mean 'the full orchestra' as advertised on trb ml?
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mircea_popescu: Killing Awlaki unfortunately did not prevent his propaganda from influencing the minds of people who killed innocent people after he was gone. "
assbot: Killing Anwar: Targeting Jihadi Propagandists is Only Part of the Solution ... ( http://bit.ly/1nhlHLA )
mircea_popescu: http://warontherocks.com/2016/01/killing-anwar-targeting-jihadi-propagandists-is-only-part-of-the-solution/ << in other lulzy lulz, from the "lalala i can't hear you" files.
mircea_popescu: which is why "well breed" old guard products don't usually carry much value with the treason that just prospered.
mircea_popescu: but generally, as an aspiring young lord, you don't have either the time or the resources to spend any time or resources with any women that would settle for anything but the best they can possibly get.
asciilifeform: sorta like lioness ovulates as soon as the old cubs are recycled, aha
mircea_popescu: that is the queenly behaviour.
asciilifeform: i thought the stereotypical whoredom is to go, at the drop of a hat, to where it smells of moar money ?!
asciilifeform: originally i thought that it would have to be a gentoo vm, but turns out that one can actually build a genuine toolchain there ! and it runs...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i personally don't. there's a common disease of whores (and no, programmers aren't fundamentally anything else). it manifests like so : should a wolf find a delicious morsel, it will neglect it oft to the point of just letting it sit while it draws a perimeter around and inspects for whence it came for and MOAR. meanwhile, a mouse that found a morsel will grab it and run, never to return.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 00:05:24; danielpbarron: >> me: the universe does not guarantee a solution to things that humans perceive as problems. << personification of 'universe' to replace God
asciilifeform: i'd much like to hear what the man has to say for himself.
asciilifeform: did anybody ever try to get theo to appear here ?
asciilifeform: in principle, i like the lightweight, pedigreed, and 'hackable on' bsd family, e.g., netbsd. but imho openbsd is something that probably needs to be helped die
asciilifeform: thing is, at least the way i understood it, the whole ~point~ of openbsd was as a fortress against poetteringization. and it appears to be in ruins, based on above
asciilifeform: if he wants to maintain a parallel universe, and it doesn't in any serious way inconvenience the actual universe, i will say only kind things.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 14:39:04; mircea_popescu: phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384135 << i have an openbsd box. but i haven't booted it in over a year, and can't bring myself to. because it is FUCKING LOATHESOME:
asciilifeform: ah i finally parsed the thing correctly, when he wrote 'talked that night' it was probably not in the flesh
mircea_popescu: "she would never take a left on west 83rd at 6pm on a tuesday. i know this on the basis of her $word starwars."
mircea_popescu: what do you see in there |?
mircea_popescu: "About a week ago, this pretty girl messages me out of the blue and we hit it off. We talked that night up until 5 AM and we have so much things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met a girl like that" << holy shit, this "all that much" evaluates to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people.
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist.
punkman: "As FSF GCC died a silent death from malnutrition, both were (formally) reunited as of version 2.95 in April 1999. With a simple renaming trick, egcs became gcc now and formally the split was over"
punkman: Cygnus, the Linux folks, the pgcc folks, the Fortran folks and many others have done development work which has not yet gone into the GCC2 tree despite years of efforts to make it possible."
punkman: "Why are we doing this? It's become increasingly clear in the course of hacking events that the FSF's needs for gcc2 are at odds with the objectives of many in the community who have done lots of hacking and improvement over the years. GCC is part of the FSF's publicity for the GNU project, as well as being the GNU system's compiler, so stability is paramount for them. On the other hand,
ben_vulpes: i do envy everyone the vast panoply of device families apparently covered.
phf: ben_vulpes: of course, that bsd patch doesn't stand in isolation. it was produced at a certain time, was since used by several people to build a version. but there's nothing to sign, because there's only pre-v patch
ben_vulpes: i only had the opportunity to test it recently, failed to even build prerequsites and so cannot sign it. i also do not intend to build another openbsd system in the immediate future.
phf: everything else in there is either cross platform clarification or straight up an #ifdef. it's a tiny ass patch, if it doesn't build on rotor, linux, etc. it's a bug in a patch
phf: the ~only~ "script" aspect of the patch is "-Wl,--whole-archive -lpthread -Wl,--no-whole-archive" which is a cross platform gcc argument that ensure that pthread is truly fully statically linked into bitcoind. the issue that some parts of it don't appear consistently with openbsd gcc ~and also on some of the linux gcc versions~. fucking says so in the original email
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:26:40; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain this to me ? << the idea is that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V to build inside of the rotor (a linux thing) - the source must be compatable with that. phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with this.
BingoBoingo: Ah, Rubio. Now BitBet's sole favorite for the Republican nomination. https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383814 << if by external you mean: does not introduce further dependencies into the codebase, maybe, depending on the tool
punkman: I suspect that using the plog library (after some win32-snipping) would remove more lines than it adds
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 02:44:58; trinque: ShrinkDebugFile() << lol, the autism in this thing
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, so i wouldn't say not welcome, but since neither patch was given a courtesy of a smooth transition, i assumed that neither are seen as particularly important. спасение утопающих дело рук самих утопающих (tm) (r)
phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
phf: otherwise the work needs to be done by other foundation members, and it comes with commitment to support openbsd build
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: "The correct answer is that developed and practiced by people who take personal cryptographic hygenie very seriously" << hygiene
phf: basically the patch being dropped created bunch of work for me, that i don't have bandwidth to pursue. (i.e. produce a v version, test on stator)
phf: one of the features of the openbsd patch is that it should build cleanly on linux, i.e. naive build or a stator build. i did a naive build that work, while i was developing, but since i assume it was not included in stator i can't speak to that.
BingoBoingo: If asciilifeform reads and tests what he signs the openbsd patch would have been missed. Timestamp may have been overlooked.
phf: well, first v release was migrated by ascii, with all the patches signed by him, i think later mod6 signed his?
mircea_popescu: anyway, do i get the impression you got the impression your patches aren't welcome or something ?
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mircea_popescu: i think the migration was done by patch authors rly.
phf: mircea_popescu: well, openbsd and timestamp are written in old diff format, their migration was not done by foundation when majority of patches were moved to vdiff. i interpreted that move as the patches not being needed and an invitation to perform migration myself.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: maybe it's just the coincidence that's being picked up on my gaydar then.
pete_dushenski: just noticed that crapple is pulling the same version naming strange as bitcoin 'core', ie. v. x.9 followed by x.10, x.11, x.12, etc. (is this the equiv. of web 2.12 ?)
phf: when it was written and submitted it applied cleanly to the tree. to my knowledge it doesn't interfere with stator build. in fact the whole point of patch is to make minimally intrusive changes to source so that interested parties don't have to track down silly issues when attempting a build on their own. it's my understanding that the patch was simply dropped during v-ification, so of course now it doesn't in any way fits into
phf: openbsd patch as written results in a working build on both linux and openbsd. it introduces necessary ifdefs to ensure cross platform support. the only change that it does to makefile is, at least according to my research, is necessary with some versions of gcc, rather then openbsd specific (has to do with static linking of pthread). without that change build ~can~ produce broken static bitcoind on both openbsd and linux. at the time
ben_vulpes: shit, i even reconsider the /past three years/ of toolchain investment on weekends like this.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 03:58:32; asciilifeform: http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/09/06/stack-frame-layout-on-x86-64 << better picture
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i tried 14 for a few days. couldn't believe how laggy it was. haven't tried 10 (or whatever the b-a approved one was)
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pete_dushenski: the old osen come with their own limitations, however, like not being able to render random websites, eg. http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/14/they-dont-print-paper-catalogues-anymore-everythings-on-their-website/ (oakley's - which i only ever managed to use on... ios8 ipad)
guruvan: ben_vulpes: just get you a boot2docker, and then run whatever the hell you want - use the OSX like a hypervisor :D
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383805 << i saw 2+ gb just from a couple of failed trb build attempts. it was like 2.7 gigs iirc. "bitcoin is not for the poor (who can't afford hd space)" (tm) (r)
pete_dushenski: i don't think anything drove me more nutso when using 10.8 than the inability to find a file in a folder you ~just~ placed it in moments earlier.
pete_dushenski: it's wild how much more organised 10.6 is than 10.8. the latter ~always~ bunged up dates. when trying to organise a folder by "date modified", the latest documents would almost invariably end up in their own speshul sub-heading waaay at the bottom of the list under "no date". but then once in a while, not. for whatever reason.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you can't not pee on ~all~ the fences.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:35:25; adlai: pete_dushenski: more helpful to say where you encountered the deadlink :)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383609 << in my own aforementioned article. thankfully, archive.is has a pretty healthy stock of tlp. (not that i found any other broken links there lately)
ben_vulpes: "software never fails" but the flesh apparently is very fucking weak.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i think those shit-spreaders were less of a 'freegan' and more of a 'let's see what it's like to be derpizens of the great nation of afrika'. fwiw.
BingoBoingo: The Joys of Sobriety: Going back to read yourself from 2014 and being pleasantly surprised with something you completely dissolved the memory of having written in industrial solvent.
ben_vulpes: but i think i need to recompile the kernel
pete_dushenski: hi ben, it's the future calling, gentoo all ready to go, sir !
pete_dushenski: http://www.businessinsider.com/one-couple-lived-off-food-waste-for-6-months-2016-1?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=referral#/%23about-60-of-consumers-are-throwing-food-away-prematurely-because-they-dont-understand-what-the-dates-are-telling-them-explained-gunders-4 << one for asciilifeform
pete_dushenski: though buiter is right about the silliness of bitcoin tx being costless. such strawman.
pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/a/yFUTu << in other humour, citi's willem buiter has a new nickname for us "cyber boys"
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:10:26; ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that the workload given to employees be reflective of their abilities...should not be given a workload that they cannot handle."
ben_vulpes: nah all i need is the display manager, i'm going to use emacs for window mgmt
ben_vulpes: it's usually the captions or contextuality of mircea_popescu's pr0n that gets me lolling
ben_vulpes: all that aside, when i finally ditch this thing, i will preserve the shit that's already on disk.
ben_vulpes: i do not see what relationship the directory structure has to the things i have said, other than they expose the retarded toolchain i used to get them on the public net in the first place.
mircea_popescu: can't turn the whole web into a signal processor.
mircea_popescu: suppose you think about what you wanna say, say it, and then let it be ?
ben_vulpes: move the files wherever i want
BingoBoingo: Kinda why eventual #b-a library where people put text from outside the wot for preservation from molestation would have some similarity to deeding.
ben_vulpes: so what, i ditch current shitty static site generator and tell everyone who linked to shit previously to get fucked and find the new linxz?
mircea_popescu: and if you write "shoez rulez" today and then change it to "shoez sux srsly" next week, people's idea of your idea of shoes also breaks.
mircea_popescu: and references break if guy goes back and adds pages in the middle of his book wtf.
ben_vulpes: hrm that reorder's the piece's footnotes
BingoBoingo finally stitching together popular hegelian piece since slow news weekend
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ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/23_money-trust-and-the-wild-wild-web-a-socioeconomic-history-of-ssl-or-that-green-lock-symbol-in-your-browser.html#fn.7
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the gf-nordstorm graph is pretty cool, you made it ?
mod6: anyway, yah, its not like it called malloc or whatever, its on the stack. i am retard.
mod6: This is from: Design & Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System by McKusick
mod6: Such segments usually must be phyiscally contiguous in main memory and must begin at fixed addresses. We shall be concenred with only those systems that do not visibly segment their virtual address space."
asciilifeform: so this means in function, on the stack.
mod6 pulls out the book
gribble: sbrk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sbrk>; sbrk(2): change data segment size - Linux man page: <http://linux.die.net/man/2/sbrk>; brk - The Open Group: <http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/xsh/brk.html>
mod6: memory allocation is done by the os at runtime. when you ask for some bytes, there are kern mechinisms that handle this request, are there not?
mod6: thanks for the links tho
asciilifeform: http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/09/06/stack-frame-layout-on-x86-64 << better picture
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383837 << if it were inside a function, the ~stack~ must contain that many contiguous free bts << i guess this makes sense. i dunno why i was thinking that it might not be.
asciilifeform: (the os in flash thing)
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 03:45:09; mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: the principal obstacle is the lack of a computer. << oh you're saying a target arch here? or?
polarbeard: that's the one
mod6: the only place i can find that is in util.cpp:ShrinkDebugFile()
asciilifeform: if ~global~, the process data segment will be stretched to fit, and if os does not like this, process will get oomkilled on load
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383837 << if it were inside a function, the ~stack~ must contain that many contiguous free bts
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 03:26:58; mircea_popescu: incidentally, if something like char pch[200000]; is inside an if, what does the compiler usually do ? allocate it at program start or not ?
polarbeard: the quality of the error messages: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#1299
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: the principal obstacle is the lack of a computer. << oh you're saying a target arch here? or?
polarbeard: you use datadir but give the default dir?
polarbeard: therefore never shittyrotating
polarbeard: lol, I'm following the rabbit hole and it seems pszSetDataDir is not set if -datadir not given
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:05:25; ben_vulpes: i thought there'd be about another 5 years before things got this nutso
mircea_popescu: "at least most of the time".
mircea_popescu: "// "Never go to sea with two chronometers; take one or three." Our three time sources are: System clock ; Median of other nodes's clocks ; The user (asking the user to fix the system clock if the first two disagree)"
mircea_popescu: ah it doesn't want to get the whole byte ?
mod6: it should ask the os for 200k of mem, this should be allocated in pages (usually 4k ea. iirc) it may not be contiguos
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if something like char pch[200000]; is inside an if, what does the compiler usually do ? allocate it at program start or not ?
polarbeard: it supposedly overwrites the log and (how considerate) leaves you a few lines from the old one
polarbeard: returning to the retarded-rotator, will somebody miss it?
mircea_popescu: so as they say, don't sign anything you might regret.
mircea_popescu: polarbeard you'll still have to sign it. there's no way out of this.
assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PuXsjC )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/the-sad-state-of-bitcoin-code/#selection-5307.1-5307.37 << taking out area #5307 ftw.
asciilifeform: polarbeard: where i come from we have a proverb, 'the sapper errs - once.'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we don't have a computer. << well, this goes back to the same thing. currently we're married to some linux varient to do (future) building of flashable universe
assbot: Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/util.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1PuTHee )
mod6: you buy a flash rom (from S.NSA? or from local place you trust??) then get V, build a flashable universe, flash the card, drop it into some device and then you can talk to it over some wire from your work station