asciilifeform: for anyone who can be bothered to read
mircea_popescu: anyway, trying to spin the "putin tore bahamas' arms off and beat him into a pulp with them" into "great foreign policy victory" thing is pretty much 100% of their fare by now.
asciilifeform: 'Your customer/attacker will send you some bad bitcoins that are only valid on the "old" fork. Hopefully they buy something expensive because you want to LOSE MONEY! You're also going to have to ship them whatever they bought before you realize you have been handed counterfeit money.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'V. crabro ... Unlike most other vespines, reproductive suppression involves worker policing instead of queen pheromone control as was previously thought.' << srsly ?!
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Azelphur from 1 to 2 with note: joined Eulora even!
mircea_popescu: 90% of usage in romanian is in the expression "iti scot eu tie gargaunii din cap" ie, "i'm going to take the ~ out of your head", universally administered before the first in a series of beatings to last qs.
BingoBoingo: then deep fry
mircea_popescu: punkman common middle aged male affliction - why do you suppose bbq is so popular in the us ?
punkman: I made a giant burrito (2lb or so), ate less than half. I think I like looking at big portions more than eating them.
asciilifeform: i thought they ~did~
mircea_popescu: if they flatly acquiseced to their subhuman nature and sought out a country to imperialize them, it'd be another thing.
asciilifeform: theorems ?
mircea_popescu: they principally watch dreary sitcoms to find out about "how life is", because that's what they go about pretending all day.
mircea_popescu: and they like to internet on facebook. because yes, just like to the generation of bovines that compose their mothers "the internet"="the blue e icon in microsoft", just so for this crop of schmucks...
asciilifeform: as in, not warez at all? the american paid subscription crud ?!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone identify the stuff spread on bread in that 2nd pic ?
mircea_popescu: punkman there are no clubs.
mircea_popescu: EVERY SINGLE, i don't mean just the fat/ugly, EVERY SINGLE female's FAVOURITE past time is watching netflix.
punkman: there's more than that on my tiny island
mod6: i'll be starting the bundling up of V v99995 tonight. will be out tomorrow sometime.
mircea_popescu: it's my tough luck that in this country i'm being entertained in other ways than i'd prefer, but what's to do.
mircea_popescu: to go by the internet, "Buenos Aires night life!1111" is a thing.
mircea_popescu: the problemn with argentines and the internet is that they're completely fucking nuts, treat the internet like a sort of personal channel whereby they communicate with god or something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i also use the internet!
BingoBoingo: Getting wasted away from home amplifies the excitement
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Still, the first two reasons hold. One can have bipedal african rhinoceros in zoo, but that doesn't mean there is no reason to be interested in observing the creatures in the wild
asciilifeform: yeah but mircea_popescu is not 'anyone'. you would wonder, if you saw pablo escobar, who had his ~own~ rhinoceros, go to the zoo, no ?
fluffypony: asciilifeform: well he has to write the notes down somewhere
deedbot-: [Trilema] Letters from the stupid country - http://trilema.com/2016/letters-from-the-stupid-country/
mircea_popescu: and in the same old news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8ff5174f151e82c23c291b50a30ae0b0/tumblr_n61msgwSfK1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
deedbot-: [Qntra] FBI iPhone Circle Jerk Theater - http://qntra.net/2016/02/fbi-iphone-circle-jerk-theater/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: People with dust bet dust because it is what they have. The bet it because they want more dust. It's happening on this bet because it got attention.
mircea_popescu: least for them.
asciilifeform: mr mold, even, wrote 'i wish only to live to see the 20th c. end' and he meant this specifically.
mircea_popescu: to the degree the 1936 bs was novel, of course. from close enough and with enough myopia, it is "sop".
asciilifeform: this kind of thing is part of the daily rhythm around here and is unremarkable.
asciilifeform: i watched with my own eyes groups of 'national student leadership' whateverthefuck marching to audience with obama's reichsminister of whatever (or possibly the fuhrer himself)
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled, note, the bullshit:
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see what the 2nd does.
mircea_popescu: in the FIRST soviet union.
asciilifeform: they were slaughtered.
asciilifeform: there ~was~ 'reddit' running around in 1918. people who ~actually~ thought that nobody needs engineers, any idiot can design a pile of bricks, nobody needs army officer, money, etc.
mircea_popescu: this kid is the aspirational "staff propagandist of the Manturovsk District of the Young Communist League in the Kursk Region"
asciilifeform: *all there
mircea_popescu: sitting around discussing issues of ideology for the very simple reason that the bigger boys in the village kicked the schmuck out of the trough ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folks were not even a century out of chattel serfdom
mircea_popescu: dude - kursk cattle doesn't even have a fucking name. ivan son of filip of the ivan's clan ? really ?
asciilifeform: the engl translation is new to me, i had nfi that anyone gave a shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the material is as plentiful as it is monotonous.
mircea_popescu: "I hope, Comrade Stalin, that you will grant my request and reply to the Manturovsk District, Kursk Region, First Zasemsky Village Soviet, Ivan Philipovich Ivanov."
asciilifeform: gonna be a contest where i'm the only runner ?!
mircea_popescu: birds sing, yes, but they are cicadas.
mircea_popescu: funny how little actually interests these people, they can so fluently become fascinated by random things.
asciilifeform: the more i look, the more clear to me that crypto is this radioactive wasteland where even birds no longer sing
mircea_popescu: idiot cloud moved on to whatever it is they do, probably something to do wit hgo now.
asciilifeform: speaking of, any more curios in the block cipher mail ?
mircea_popescu: they do not have the "rsa pill". the block ciphers however as currently implemented are next to useless.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is of course free do define my questions, such as 'do they have the rsa pill', as uninteresting. but i find this position too martian to fully grasp with my puny earthling brain.
mircea_popescu: very much besides the point.
asciilifeform: he isn't even wrong, the bacteria ~are~ helping to 'keep the secrets' by eating the meat
mircea_popescu: you're roughly in the position of an inept anatomist who, from his failure to obtain answers to the questions that interest him through dissection, decides the dead animal on the table is still alive,
asciilifeform: relates to the ~core~ vs ~crust~
mircea_popescu: how does this relate to the legal impotence of the usg henceforth is unclear, but w/e.
asciilifeform: or the magic codez for the intel amt thing (or what, you think the nsa core is decorative ?! buyan?!)
asciilifeform: another example: official 'tempest' test specs.
asciilifeform: (go players don't panic, nothing to do with the game)
asciilifeform: note that i did not say 'the pill for rsa' but a specific archival document that is referred to in 10,001 places in the open usg literature
mircea_popescu: other things that haven't been found include the electronic raisin nuclear cheesecake, and generally speaking all manner and definitions of unknown things as defined by the people not knowing them. because FUCKING NECESSARILY!
mircea_popescu: the continued secrecy involving all this proves in order that asciilifeform has sons, that buyan is a place and that he used to take it in the ass with the firehose.
mircea_popescu: they're guarded by asciilifeform's unknown sons in a mausoleum on buyan, along with asciilifeform's own handmade copy of the dead sea manuscripts and still shots from his days as a fireman/pornstar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not that one either.
asciilifeform: my point was that the available evidence (i can name 1,01+ tantalizing s33kr1ts That Make A Difference) that ~never~ have leaked and are guarded by - apparently - incorruptible aryan ss core.
asciilifeform: the one where he, allegedly, 'we have failed and will die'
asciilifeform: recall how they in 1990 or so 'all sov archives now open!!11' 'fine, now gimme stalin's 1938 plenum speech'
asciilifeform: if you can find me how aes leaks key bits, or the spec document for 'Joseki' cipher, i'll wake up permanently.
mircea_popescu: sorry, what am i to do. you're a pretty reasonable chap with the nutty habit of spitting out 5/0=0!!1 5/0 = 0!!! at intervals.
mircea_popescu: i've not even read that last line, for the record.
mircea_popescu: the concept of "old news" is not defined in this space.
mircea_popescu: that now the feds are somewhere between uganda and ethiopia as far as legal power is concerned.
mircea_popescu: that "careful about what they don't tell you when they give you those papers to sign" cuts both ways. what the calabrese didn't tell the feds when they gave the feds those papers to sign was
mircea_popescu: in this case, the usg took it in the ass. and the problem with whoredom is that oyu NEVER get to charge more than the least you ever charged.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, a streetwalker is a streetwalker whether she fucks bums or healthy virile orcs.
asciilifeform: certainly no 'pencildick' academics there..
asciilifeform: ~asteroid~ is the only hope for usa.
mircea_popescu: in further "concentration camps are the only hope for the us" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/988d727f67722704787276edb499656e/tumblr_n64ncliQyN1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i dunno, their retarded plum book index
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/#comment-46670 << what do the numbers refer to ?
BingoBoingo: In other news Jeb Bush has apparently called his brother's nekkid shower paintings "weird"
asciilifeform: (one falls, no prob, can connect to 17 others)
asciilifeform: the correct way to arrange this crippled gossipd affair is as an mpex-like network of proxies
asciilifeform: (as discussed in the 'g' thread. you ask for kakobrekla-style token, and decrypt a symmetric key)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2016#1410098 << on the menu for saturday..!
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 10:46:58; punkman: http://www.smartnootropics.co.uk/the-psychoactive-substances-act-2016/ lulzy
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 13:48:21; mircea_popescu: who the fuck keeps a generator indoors.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2016#1410160 << battery banks (other than for starting the diesel!!) are typically kept indoors. sealed cells do not like to freeze, and do not like summer heat. (whereas ordinary unsealed lead-acids ~really~ do not like deep-cycling.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2016#1410183 << do you not see the openbsd fungus here ?
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 15:24:52; mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to.
mircea_popescu: they've gotten worse.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to.
mircea_popescu has a total ball tabbing everyone's nipples with them.
mircea_popescu: the thing has about 21kw worth of lead-acid cells << let us not.
mircea_popescu: it's inside somewhere, i've never seen them.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck keeps a generator indoors.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw the mystery of the inverter is solved : the thing has about 21kw worth of lead-acid cells, capable of powering the output at nominal draw for half an hour or twenty minutes or something.
jurov: phf i'm getting such docs all the time. and requests for missing bitcoins with screenshot.scr or paypal funds with attached paypal.rar
pete_dushenski: "The remaining 24.87832294 BTC will be a recurring fee to maintain the hardware. Further one-off expenditure may be incurred as needed, we're by now running a rather complex setup including numerous servers and that simply means one can not ever have any peace." << july 2014 report
mircea_popescu: it's in the reports at some point
pete_dushenski: speaking of fiat volatility, how is it that s.mpoe takes a 'tech' expenditure of Tech, 24.87832294 BTC every month for the last ~year regardless of exchange rate ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you recall, that's the 1/4 tb ram thing that was going to phuctor
mircea_popescu: phf> fwiw when i posted patches url here, had googbot crawling the pages within ~minutes~ << yeah, trilema is well loved, by now rubbed off on qntra and b-a log, if you keep quality venue (by text and frequency, i dun think i have to explain what is machine-quality, just watch the go player thing) it'll rub off further, guaranteed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Depends on when he came of age today. Perhaps google blogspot crackpottery followed by IRC drink, then grave?
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 22:50:46; phf: the thing that was in few years back-- vw type 2 conversions for road life, i.e. gutting insides, putting offroad suspension. i know at least two people who's been living like that past few years
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: http://fullerdomehome.org/about << I have no idea if they actually got Bucky's house out of crates and reassembled it yet.
pete_dushenski: http://photovalet.com/data/comps/VBS/VBSV01P08_16B.0168.jpg << if you need to escape usistan across the bering straight, this is your ticket.
phf: at some point, when i have something to write about. i would've liked to do minsky eulogy for example, but i knew very little about the guy
pete_dushenski: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Dynamixion_car_by_Buckminster_Fuller_1933_%28side_views%29.jpg << though if you want a family hauler that's truly special, it's hard to beat the dymaxion, even if it's a bit of a, shall we say, tricky steet
assbot: Check Out the Hottest New TV Shows of 2015! | VICE | United States ... ( http://bit.ly/20HKbue )
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 22:42:13; mircea_popescu: why do all you people have multiple kids with the same woman ? doesn't it stand to reason ...
phf: fwiw when i posted patches url here, had googbot crawling the pages within ~minutes~
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> among the folks i work with is a fella who sat in, i believe, a genuine trench << Decline was from double digit portion of the poplution to low single digits
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 18:49:32; linton_s_dawson: If done properly it may get enough traffic to earn from advertisement? And then distribute earnings to contributors.
BingoBoingo: Exactly, scamnuts, because they are really just fucking beans.
pete_dushenski: gabrielradio: cheers! and wd on the blog in general. looking forward to more
gabrielradio: then again, i should probably wander a bit more irl too. maybe to buenos aires for some mp mentoring :D
gabrielradio: yea, i should probably wander a bit more there too
mircea_popescu: oh and - consider giving eulora a try ? huge demand for noobs atm, can make a satoshi or two rather easily.
assbot: You rated user gabrielradio on 14-Oct-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Apprentice Trilema translator..
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gabrielradio: ;;later tell pete_dushenski hey pete, here's the pimping guide, imma handle the other requests too http://www.radio.gg/how-to-be-a-pimp-a-simple-comprehensible-and-exhaustive-guide/
mircea_popescu: in other automotive news, some dudes found some lost ais! http://45.media.tumblr.com/7395a7aed479216b428b227839d80468/tumblr_n7e3e6zO7M1qlne6uo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: (ftr derealization is the psychotic situation of the mind that imagines wikipedia is relevant.)
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm kinda curious to see how long until a brave psychologist comes up with the interesting theory that overmotivation produces more stress than anything else, and overselfconfidence produces derealization more than anything else. "i know how to resolve the epidemic of stress+derealization! demotivate and undermine confidence in people!!1"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: ;; later tell gabriel_laddel is morphine paleo or what? seriously though, seems terrible advice for most people, don't see how it'd be anything other than a short term solution leading to bigger problems
asciilifeform: but granted, this is the exception.
asciilifeform: among the folks i work with is a fella who sat in, i believe, a genuine trench
mircea_popescu: compare the number of people who sat in a trench cca 1950 with the number of people who sat in a trench today (ie, 0 - and no, air conditioned crapola doesn't count.)
mircea_popescu: quite the shortage.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but back then there was a significant commercial and liberal professional class that kept it at bay, and a large contingent of ex soldiers, ie, people with direct experience.
asciilifeform: incidentally when i unearthed a pile of '30s-'50s american popular whatever-the-fuck-mechanics american magazines, they were full of ads for same
mircea_popescu: it's almost like living in the greek world cca right before the barbarians took over, nobody does anything except rhetorics coaching.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile there's literally one million life coaching/business tecniques/seductionining/blabla "experts" that'll teach anyone how to be a mega everything + successful.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it can also play go with the ceo.
punkman: mircea_popescu: last link scrolls down the page, but no highlight whatsoever
mircea_popescu: turn it any way you want - you're still digging in the dirt with your hands. there's gotta be a better use of one's time.
mircea_popescu: to my eyes it's sorta like the pedo dude who spends a summer to dig a hole in the dirt where to keep 12 yos.
phf: "huh." rather
phf: actually one van dweller i knew was this nasty, 60 year old hippie dude, sort of ram das like character. i think all he did was cruise from one west coast hot spring to another. he would always have an utterly zonkered, 20 year old, supermodel looking girl in his van, every time i'd run into him, a different one.
mircea_popescu: do you two know each other ibl ?
mircea_popescu: do you get the part where if you add much more yellow than blue you don't get green but chartruse ?
assbot: The quest ; and its resolution on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub7iNZ )
mircea_popescu: ( see http://trilema.com/2015/the-quest-and-its-resolution/#selection-89.78-89.153 re creampie.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he had a sit-down with chris ballas and theo de raadt, and they agreed to be good boys and eat the creampie.
BingoBoingo: That is where the real lulz lie
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the tiny-os-that-is-oh-so-impressive-until-you-actually-want-to-run-programs is old hat.
phf: shinohai: not the connotation in those circles
ben_vulpes: similar to the college degree thing
mircea_popescu: you go steal one, the guy you stole it from [who is better than you by simple virtue of he having one you don't] tracks you down, and what are you going to do to him and his five brothers ?
phf: the thing that was in few years back-- vw type 2 conversions for road life, i.e. gutting insides, putting offroad suspension. i know at least two people who's been living like that past few years
mircea_popescu: "be able to manufacture any part of the [cara]van. here's this dull axe. forest's that way."
ben_vulpes: http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=274052&d=1425648934&thumb=1 << another assault van
ben_vulpes: they don't educate gypsies about anything
assbot: Meet Linux's Little Brother Zephyr, a Tiny Open Source IoT RTOS - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ub6WHo )
BingoBoingo: In the day's latest lolzception related to alf's early link, but with far more layers of laff http://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/02/18/1522219/meet-linuxs-little-brother-zephyr-a-tiny-open-source-iot-rtos
mircea_popescu: you know the rule, for to be a marrigeable young gypsy fellow, do you ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes with the included tool.
phf: i was at a "van life" talk at burning man, and womens there were certainly selected for their fertility
ben_vulpes: i've just come to terms with the inevitable future
mircea_popescu: then again i'm merely an apprentice gypsy.
mircea_popescu: course i have nfi why anyone involved in that would select women by other criteria than fertility.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes laugh but it's probably the best plan someone living in the us could come up with.
mircea_popescu: the [cara]van, poor man's dirigible!
ben_vulpes: phf: pretty much the plan
mircea_popescu: itinerant website mender, the v2.0 of itinerant metal shit mender.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: because i can't stand many others?
mircea_popescu: why do all you people have multiple kids with the same woman ? doesn't it stand to reason ...
mircea_popescu: why's them dudes look so georgian
mircea_popescu: one of the guys i was working with had made his original capital selling plastic toys in the street.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the original mention was of currency changers iirc
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: better move quickly then.
mircea_popescu: pretty much anyone can make bank here, given that these people can be readily approximated with plants.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel he's married, and with a kid on the way.
gabriel_laddel: I have a few obligations to take care of here in the US first.
gabriel_laddel: the total price is like 1k
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> punkman: didja miss the 'and all the btc' part ? << "OR" all the btc of the unprotected defendant
BingoBoingo: <punkman> "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil? << Yes, then Jody/Dora the explorer has to pay either $XXX,XXX or Bitcorns
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: or you could hit the gym and eat well, sleep some
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/02/growing-bitcoin-game-hits-high-for-single-day-play-seconds/ << ftr item 7 in that footnote appears like an unreadable pile. amd is there a footnote 2 ? seems to go 1 and then 3.
jurov: and bitbet finally got another banner? a bit gnarly, tho
mircea_popescu: dude's been chasing the news van for years now
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mircea_popescu: "back when i was you8nger and i put out valid results i made aneffort, but now that i'm old and publishing rank nonsense anyway, why bother ? i just copy it!"
asciilifeform: i have the complete works of lysenko on my shelf.
asciilifeform: but in this case, they remembered...
mircea_popescu: "people don't remember false proofs of false theorems because htye do not wish to"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dug for more detail, but the written material on the subj as such appears to be very scarce.
mircea_popescu: http://ftp.mcs.anl.gov/pub/qed/archive/209 << interesting enough, but the (single) example given is miserably weak in the context of the quote.
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 04:01:30; mircea_popescu: trinque as a boy, i was very distraught to find from my mother that if one invents something, he doesn't merely have to say what it should be
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 18:47:51; linton_s_dawson: The questions is whether it can be automated or done by contributors.
mircea_popescu: the sale at public auction without reserve of a bahamas daughter does not compare.
mircea_popescu: the us bent over and took it in the ass from a bunch of marginally literate calabrese peasants of vague greek ethnicity.
mircea_popescu: this is the most scandalous thing i ever heard. ten thousand hollow posturings with imaginary criminals manufacturer out of derpy us teenagers won't wash this humiliation.
punkman: btw did they refund any btc from unfulfilled preorders?
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2016 18:44:46; linton_s_dawson: I thought about what may improve the TMSR infrastructure and figured that the logs themselves are somewhat difficult to navigate. "Catching up" with the logs means reading through the whole conversation until you stumble upon what matters. I.e. "a new patch was proposed" or "MP uncovered the next scam in the making".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409721 << the project to summarize the logs has been long proposed, no serious takers as of yet.
mircea_popescu is too lazy to fish the thing out from the forum where he is going to "answer any questions", mpoe-pr asks a few and that's the last he's heard from, ever, in any btc anything.
mircea_popescu: let's not forget that sonny vleisides is a convicted 'ndrangheta captain, who was doing business while on parole in violation of the terms
punkman: "Out of a 38,615,161 United States dollar judgment against the firm and Sonny Vleisides the firm is to pay 15,000 and Sonny Vleisides is to pay 4,000." << so they only have to pay $20k out of the $38 mil?
mircea_popescu: wtf bullshit togo of a country you got there asciilifeform !
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409718 << now you know who was pushing the scam.
mircea_popescu gotta get to the email erryone's talking of.
mod6: how do you even find these gems?