asciilifeform: but swamp is one of the two kolymas where they have asciilifeforms toil to mine uranium for the 5yearplan
asciilifeform: spring is ~1 week long in the swamp.
mircea_popescu: https://cluj-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/assets/pekus-statiunea-baisoara.jpg << the fashionable place for losing one's virginity at the time.
asciilifeform: (precious little of this here in the swamps)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu connected to the ftmeade fleanode or what.
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 03:04:46; *: kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet
kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet
kakobrekla: yes i found be-quiet there
kakobrekla: anyway i see you want all the upside with no downside
kakobrekla: dont change the argument this has nothing to do with capacitance !
kakobrekla: why would you glue them
asciilifeform: and how about the ports
asciilifeform: what did he do with the disks?
kakobrekla: i recall it was office pc that worked years after installed and no i dont have the link written down anywhere
asciilifeform: they do tho
mircea_popescu: sorta like the heated water bed. all you wanna do is fuck all the blustery winter day.
asciilifeform: around the 'horseshoe'
mircea_popescu: the things one remembers.
mircea_popescu: how sub mm ? pretty sure they can make 0.01ish.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe it's my time looking at ega gfx and appreciating golden axe music on the 8 bit case speaker
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:11:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order.
mircea_popescu: the last time i even used a headphone was months ago
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:08:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order.
nubbins`: ^ actually asciilifeform a simple piezo & some leads might provide some clues as to the source
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:19:03; asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly
kakobrekla: and there is no way around it but with large surface (and low mass)
kakobrekla: anyway, classical cone tweeters are problematic because of small surface and therefore large surface volume which makes ears bleed
kakobrekla: no, you should listen to them.
nubbins`: i should read about these ribbon speakers of yrs
nubbins`: i'm using a roland keyboard amp in the music studio and crappy infinity speakers on the record player ;/
assbot: Hot Rod (8/10) Movie CLIP - The King of AM Radio (2007) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Maugy1 )
kakobrekla: anyway speakers are the most important part and dipole ribbons are where the music is at
pete_dushenski off to old theatre to watch monty python
BingoBoingo: ogether on.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> kakobrekla: as far as im concerned if it had ONE moving part, it is rubbish. << Aha, this goes to the power tool dilemma where unless paying out the ass everything is made by TTI in china and it is a competition between which TTI reseller do you trust most to preserve their battery platform. Not directly connected to this utterance of yours, but for some reason this is the one brian in the head clicked the thread t
kakobrekla: i only have the old stuff
nubbins` wonders if kako is vinyl collector or "other" type
assbot: GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 1150 - GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MasYD9 )
nubbins`: just the piezo
kakobrekla: all integrated sound cards are rubbish. ALL of them.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: presumably it is for folks who habitually blow the amp
nubbins`: kakobrekla i'd imagine a proper op-amp from the start would be cheaper than adding the socket
asciilifeform: yes, on the mobo.
asciilifeform: turns out there's ~no market for well-made quiet thing, whodavethunkit
asciilifeform: the kind on a pole.
asciilifeform: the dell hs need dell mobo holes!
asciilifeform: anyway these look quite like mine, but stood on end.
kakobrekla: and the world should not be round, yet ...
asciilifeform: or, hm, there was adapter.
asciilifeform: where do you see AMD F in these ?
kakobrekla: "Thermalright HR-01 X" ?
asciilifeform: vacuuming and even air compressor, turns out, does not really clean the inside.
kakobrekla: theres plenty of models
asciilifeform: after the 'regrind' thread.
asciilifeform: they are loosely-coupled and vibrate.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i suspect that it is the heatsinks
kakobrekla: but then again i spin fans at 200 rpm or less
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can't do this when it spins, will rape the raid
asciilifeform: then - crud, yes
kakobrekla: anyway, easy to cut power to hdd to see if that is the bugger
asciilifeform: nubbins`: surely not the immersive cray ?
asciilifeform: (unless the machine is DESIGNED for it from day 1.)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see the immersion cooling thread, physics does not cooperate
nubbins`: copper bucket full of thermal paste
kakobrekla: the fan that comes with it is useless though.
nubbins`: nah, just spied the brand & blurted
asciilifeform: the hdd fittings are, fucktardedly, plastic tho.
asciilifeform: WTF with the glass, srsly
asciilifeform: i have the fucker standing on fist-sized sorbothane legs, too
kakobrekla: im spinning rust free - i have a few 'hp microservers' for that running in another room
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51'
asciilifeform: i threw out 2, replaced with ssd for the cost of their weight in plutonium, i suppose now have to do other 2 ?!!
asciilifeform: afaik they never invented eating shit to begin with.
asciilifeform: but i will point out that there are not enough koi, or even sharks, on the planet3, to feed the ugly anglo chix to.
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:48:50; mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429778 << what even is happening in the pic
pete_dushenski: "Every Venetian I spoke to, Jew and gentile alike, had expressed deep pessimism about the city’s future." << sounds about right
mircea_popescu: i think the "slippery when wet" thing is much needed instruction for otaku.
mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "only a cynical man would call what these people have lives...this is not how man was supposed to live."
mircea_popescu: well... neither is this.
mircea_popescu: nobody is used to the idea that fuck up and it's your ass. not anymore. because hey, "that's no way to live".
pete_dushenski: http://www.rallynuts.com/user/products/large/MOD_07_lge.jpg << momo wheel : the ultimate in minimalism
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:30:24; asciilifeform: i suggest that the craft of producing mircea_popescu henceforth be referred to as momotronics.
asciilifeform: which is why it is important to ~help them die~.
pete_dushenski: or they want to live plenty and don't seem to be ~sufficiently~ dying on own petard for using winbloze.
asciilifeform: siemens sold them stuxnet-os successfully.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:10:07; mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for trump.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429741 << well not quite, he ~could~ buy the whole orchestra and sell machine+nonwinblowz+customization etc.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:09:57; mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront the same exact problem,, which is to say that this is not able to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering this kinbd of thing that can x-sell it.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-03-10.log.html#t19:57:29 << "true quality ~as seen before~". ie, let's just call it that for the sake of calling it something.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it metastasized into idiocy, but originally it's the very logical observation that the draw needed to make sales in b2b is much larger than consumer.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this trap is what informs the vc circus' derpage about "big" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for trump.
mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront the same exact problem,, which is to say that this is not able to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering this kinbd of thing that can x-sell it.
asciilifeform: and the solution was 'stop being you, be somebody else'
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't take this failure to be more informative than it is. the technology never entered into discussion, it failed on economic grounds.
mircea_popescu: just the fact that i have toi make an entry in my phonebook is $$$.
mircea_popescu: just so the cost of dealing with some dude is not 0 in any sense.
mircea_popescu: much like the cost to send bitcoin txn, that random derps imagine to be "=fee" is in fact something like 0.5 to 5 btc PER TX, if you include EVERYTHING ytou need to run bitcoin payments,
mircea_popescu: this is a large part of the problem. there's a hidden barrier to entry here, that is the "cost to enter wot". ie, as a manager of x item, i MAY consider dealing wioth nobody. but not over anything.
asciilifeform: and also recall that i'm a nobody with nothing. i dont;' even have the money to make 10k one month and then nothing for 3.
asciilifeform: didn't say there was !
mircea_popescu: "the cost for its deployment includes me spending a month fucking up yoru shit, which is about 10k or so, and our fee, which is 2500 a year"
asciilifeform: and reverse any proprietary hardware they have that i did not have when i wrote it.
mircea_popescu: ok, so what i'll say is, "this machine, once deployed, would improve your workflow by about 15%, which is worth about 50k or so. it could also be had hiring techs, at a cost of about 60k a year for the machine's lifespan"
asciilifeform: again if it helps to understand this, it is not a plug-and-go thing, i would have to show up in PERSON and work out the process flow
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> now, your addon, if deployed would, for the average usecase, provide an improvement of what ? 10% ? 50% ? 300% ?
mircea_popescu: and in other news, omfg this provolone is magnificent.
mircea_popescu: seeing all the recent scandals with falsifications etc, i'd be much surprised if they even run the equipment anymore, so yeah.
asciilifeform: this would actually touch the evidence.
asciilifeform: they have to use ~certified~ crud
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't have the experience to discuss typical, discuss case study. the one time you tried this.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how fucking different they are. typical case will be had or the sky falls.
asciilifeform: we had 3 just in the building where i worked !
mircea_popescu: it is, much like the "average voter", "median consumer" etc, a fiction, made by some methods.
asciilifeform: there isa typical case??!!!
asciilifeform: very difficult to quantify. depends on what they paid their babysitter for the cruddy winblowz thing, how much money they lost to destroyed work on account of microshit.
mircea_popescu: now, your addon, if deployed would, for the average usecase, provide an improvement of what ? 10% ? 50% ? 300% ?
asciilifeform: straight from the swiss.
asciilifeform: this was for the naked instrument.
asciilifeform: for one thing, deployment would require ~month+ of my full time at the site.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc i spammed reddit, fwiw << FWIW, after sporatic success it has taken about "3 ani experienta" before I got rather reliable results infultrating the various web traffic concentrators to gather eyes.
asciilifeform: i do ~not~ think the matter was of insufficient propaganda.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:01:33; thestringpuller: modern alchemy? psuedoscience in a sense... But I was more referring from the psychological transition of viewing the world through the lens of alchemy vs. that of chemistry
asciilifeform: much less sell the whole orchestra in kit.
asciilifeform: aha, possibly they made some calls somewhere.
asciilifeform: that we would wither away naturally.
asciilifeform: but tecan - cleverly - understood that they do not NEED to buy OR sue
asciilifeform: i was half-convinced they would!
asciilifeform: the vendor cannot in most jurisdictions entirely forbid the use of 3rd party soft, but can make life harder for the user.
asciilifeform: the instruments typically come with service contract, $xx,xxx/y
mircea_popescu: wow they say that ?!
asciilifeform: together, we pitched.
mircea_popescu: when you say "we did pitch" do you mean, you went into the room, or did you hire someone who does this professionally ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see folks PITCHED it either.
mircea_popescu: PeterL well he did make the 10-20x faster claim ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL get him in room to pitch his thing, make 15% or w/e ? asciilifeform you should prolly hire someone to make the pitch tho.
mircea_popescu: you know, you two could perhaps help each other ?
asciilifeform: now iam remembering things about lm, i had many nice things, had motion planning, could run the thing 10-20x faster thaan 'evoware' (we called it 'evilware') because mine was ~guaranteed~ not to crash, etc.
PeterL: asciilifeform this robot thing looks much like what I saw at Dow, I never used it but I had coworkers who used these things for high-throughput research, I dunno what software they used
mircea_popescu: well then i'm glad to hear.
mircea_popescu: my experience, on the contrary - whenever mp as much as vaguely disliked a world, that world caught on fire by itself and cut off its own head.
mircea_popescu: well guaranteedly you can't make any mircea_popescu 's thus, they'd simply burn down your world.
asciilifeform: anywy this was long ago and now mircea_popescu knows some of the perspective it gave.
asciilifeform: anywhere there is moving gizmos.
asciilifeform: applicable to other industrial uses incidentally
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it makes you feel better, i'd buy it for the putative chemistry lab i don't run.
mircea_popescu: except by now the shitworld is so thick with shit, it "only works" for approved lottery winner.
mircea_popescu: i mean, this would be the exact textbook example of "work really hard, do something useful, be rich"
asciilifeform: so what if the thing let me use a 5k usd spectrophotometre instead of 50k golden toilet that has FEWER wavelengths ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notably, my tecan proggy allows user to use non-branded furniture in the machine.
mircea_popescu: what do they care.
asciilifeform: aha and their idiot crud runs for winblowz.
mircea_popescu: because closed is always a competition of empires, and the chinese got 10x more cash.
asciilifeform: NO open chinese or russian either
PeterL: asciilifeform has it, there is no open lab equipment or software
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is NO open lab automation sys.
mircea_popescu: ie, the win98 item is 100k in cash + 4,5mn in fixing it to spec ; this is 340k in cash + 0 etc.
mircea_popescu: only buy open hardware. if hardware is considered for buying, add the cost of reversing and opening it to the bill, to make a proper comparison.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: story is in the logz iirc.
mircea_popescu: PeterL it's just miserable management, whether you see it or not.
asciilifeform: they hungy up once i explained that 'no this is not a winblows app, it is not a plugin for yours, it replaces 'evoware' '
asciilifeform: no shit, the swiss
asciilifeform: we even got a call with the hw vendor
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sad truth of the matter dept, this is kinda why the closed box crud even exists, that's the vp : "by the time someone undoes the shit, it'll be too late for the world to care"
PeterL: some equipment is non-widows, like the NMR
asciilifeform: and, INTERESTINGLY, i owned the copyright, and then spun off the thing as product, and NO ONE BOUGHT
asciilifeform: story is in the logz.
PeterL: we get the equipment, we have the manufacturers give us software to run it, then we get to do whatever we want with it
PeterL: Okay .... I don't know where you got the idea any equipment borrowing is going on here?
mircea_popescu: just moreso, because machinery > real estate ever since the industrial revolution.
mircea_popescu: by the same measure, i'd prefer the lab that owns its machinery rather than borrow it from unknown people in unspecifiable conditions.
PeterL: I guess I would say the one that owns a building
mircea_popescu: incidentally, maybe i have a better approach re the other thread. do you suppose PeterL that if you had to take a job with one of two labs, absolutely the same offer in every respect, you'd take the job with the lab that rents space in random buildings or with the lab that owns its own building ?
asciilifeform: there must not BE a 'blackhole tx' button.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:29:36; funkenstein_: they pick and choose what TX to include in a block they mine as always
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429221 << the "all data used to eval a tx is found in that tx" point is paramount and controlling here as there. no, they don't "pick and choose".
asciilifeform: PeterL: they can collude to kill you
PeterL: other than running your own mining pool
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:24:40; asciilifeform: i.e. that the collective of miners CAN exclude certain tx.
mircea_popescu: well, i dun know how it'd be otherwise said, so i guess we let it lay ?
mircea_popescu: (and yes that means i can read my own fucking x rays, and say to the doctor what he says back to me.)
mircea_popescu: and i have not to date hired anyone to do anything whatsoever i don't know how to do myself. how would i pay them ?
assbot: Give computers the vote. They're cheaper than women, even! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pj8ALv )
mircea_popescu: and let's relate here the immorality of capital, as per http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/#footnote_7_65336
mircea_popescu: a discussion of whether x is an abdication or not can not be decided on the basis of "is it cheaper or faster". because of fucking course it would be, that's what abdication means.
PeterL: well, the company can pay me to figure out how to program it or pay the guy who built it to program it, it is just cheaper/faster for them to do it
asciilifeform: it is in the logz even.
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> PeterL and if you tell the head manager that this is a miserable abdication from his job - which is to assure you the stuff will work no matter what, he says ? << If the equipment does not work the way it is supposed to, we speak to our contact and he fixes it, I don't see any abdication of job by manager here?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "many of them" != "here's list"
mircea_popescu: being an us style "independent" has about as much to do with independence as being a us style "liberal" has to do with liberalism ; or as much as the 6th grader's idea of "a lothario" has to do with fucking, partying and generally the dyonyssian world.
asciilifeform: go and make a set of ~eyes~ for the books to be read by.
asciilifeform: and i listed many of them here.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:09:29; trinque: the whole rest is what information you put in the skulls
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429190 << this is sadly not much more than a restatement of the independent vertical credo, "where do i get just the facts". bear in mind that this vertical is a creation of the usg agitprop machine and nothing more.
mircea_popescu: 10% failure rate is based on the concept that a)most will be artisans, ie, gardeners and b) periodic war and disease anyway.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:09:20; trinque: if you bothered to breed well a 90% failure rate is deplorable
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429189 << cunt runs on perl, it is what it is, it does what it does. 90% failue rate may well be very self-flattering if the criteria discussed are contemplated seriously.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429178 << he's asking you for the index list of that room ; you're not providing it because ?
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 23:26:24; assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 23:20:09; mircea_popescu: you think you're running a node, because, symptomatically, in the windows definition of running code (hey, click items till it works) you are. but the sense of running code contemplated for bitcoin is negative, not positive, and you don't know how to check for that nor do you specifically care.
PeterL: the equipment does what we want it to, what more do we need?
mircea_popescu: let me guess, "nobody could have foreseen - no one got fired for following the herd".
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:37:58; PeterL: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429119 << it is a complicated thing, "train an army of samurai". << try the Jedi approach, one-on-one tutelage
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429366 << Actually leads to pederasty. Anyways the Jedi thing was invented by the George Lucas hamplanet.
mircea_popescu: PeterL and if you tell the head manager that this is a miserable abdication from his job - which is to assure you the stuff will work no matter what, he says ?
PeterL: asciilifeform my current lab goes the direction of paying for "service contract" with equipment manufacturers to keep our software up-to-date
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:00:36; trinque: fell out the womb and of the random shuffling of life, some were spartans
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429166 << the spartans "emerged" out of a well understood, well documented process modern man prefers to think never existed. specifically : the woman's job to push them out ; the man's job to decide which may live. and runts - off to the apothetae.
mircea_popescu: and of course i'd prolly have a wailing chorus of stakeholder idiots, whom i'd tell the usual get fucked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because how do you budget for that. << i have no idea wqhat the because would be, other than idiots. if i ran the lab i would, simply on grounds of independence.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:00:05; *: trinque wonders which of the ancient conquerors ever sat waiting for power to show up of its own accord, shield and spear in hand
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429119 << it is a complicated thing, "train an army of samurai". << try the Jedi approach, one-on-one tutelage
asciilifeform: mass spec is the worst, came with isa card
PeterL: <asciilifeform> i saw a win98 box once, uninfected, i shit thee not. it was connected to an alarm system, in a closet, no net connection, for decade. << my previous job we had a windows 98 box dedicated to a piece of equipment
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 19:52:06; asciilifeform: what, you think ~their~ students, ~will~ ??