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asciilifeform: in other nyooz, asciilifeform is very very near to an escape from butugychag.
mircea_popescu: of course i wasn't thinking of pig iron, rather, one of the fiberglass / ceramic sorta things with high magnetic dust included.
mircea_popescu: i'd have thought nicely made wheel out of paramagnetic alloy ; then vary a field.
asciilifeform: possibly even something involving a pulsed magnet near the gear tooth.
asciilifeform: thin shaft into the gears, yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read the piece. some italian finally managed to miniaturize the thing into the frame
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re lafond's article - iirc you can buy surplus cruisers ; as well as various knick-knacks like body armor from afficionado stores (here they're called cotillon stores).
mircea_popescu: nobody asked you to do your stat process in the same way you do other processes.
mircea_popescu: the stat is a single item. these are separable for reasons.
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copumpkin: sorry, you lost me there
mircea_popescu: such as for instance in divorce proceedings, or whatever the fuck.
copumpkin: and then we'd shut up and move on
mircea_popescu: and so we go through this a coupla times and then i go you know what, just register a deed already, this is getting ridiculous
copumpkin: before they accept my claims that you're being dishonest, they'll want proof that I actually asked you for money
copumpkin: the folks in here support you by default
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, reddit/bitcoin apparently mass-downvoting the story of bitbet NOT being a scam ?
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of things i ~could~ do.
copumpkin: I'll keep sneding them
copumpkin: that's fine. But signing my slips still gives me a verifiable paper trail of the things I attempted to have you do, whether or not you guarantee doing them. It gives me an avenue to claim that you've at least seen and acknowledged an order, even if execution is best-effort
mircea_popescu: there's degrees there. the guarantee you're offered is that you won't be losing your balance ; not that you won't have orders lost.
mircea_popescu: you can do the same as it is.
copumpkin: I could then store those signatures and chew you out publicly in the case of a dispute
copumpkin: all I'm saying is that with today's system, I have no cryptographic paper trail that you've actually received the commands I expect you to have received
mircea_popescu: and there's no inefficiency in the system as it is, for it is simple. the inefficiency begins once you expect to have a 2nd "superior" channel on top of the slips. which will then have to be managed.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the coins"
copumpkin: a) the coins have already been sent to the wrong place. Perhaps I'm not "liable" and have a claim, but it's adding inefficiency to the system if you have to cover for a mistake which could've been avoided in the first place
mircea_popescu: a) "too late" for what ; b) if there's an old slip of yours, it either has an address that was paid in it or not. if it does, then it doens't matter ; if it doesn't, you have a claim.
copumpkin: the only way I'll find out is by waiting 48 hours, at which point it'll be too late
copumpkin: there's no acknowledgment of the parameters of the withdrawal. For all I know you think I want a completely different amount, to a completely different address :P
mircea_popescu: not so sure that is good practice, general or otherwise.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: also, as general good practice, it'd probably be good to include the address and amount of the withdrawal in the message, perhaps with a date. Currently the message is a constant, so the signature on it feels a little less valuable
copumpkin: "Your withdrawal request has been received and will be processed. Note that all withdrawals are verified manually, and they may take up to 48 hours for approval. If 48 hours have ellapsed and you still haven't received your bitcoins please contact mircea_popescu in #bitcoin-assets. Note that if your account at the time of processing holds fewer BTC than your withdrawal, this order will be executed up to that limit. Also, please
deedbot: [Trilema] But what about the slave ? - http://trilema.com/2016/but-what-about-the-slave/
BingoBoingo: And the $b's
asciilifeform: good nyooz is that all the !b's can be processed retroactively...
mircea_popescu: maybe the new bash works by searching for "fucking bash"
mircea_popescu: this should be in the fucking bash lmao
trinque: sorry about that guys. I left a tcpdump running to catch the SSL weird and filled my disk
mircea_popescu: oh there he is
mircea_popescu: check out the news hub.
mircea_popescu: well, fuck you. my teleomers lengthen by watching others shorten, just like my cock gets hard by watching women spend each other.
asciilifeform: as in the thread re biological process of 'i am not my mother!1111'
mircea_popescu: you should, at least in fucking principle, get infinitely better results by just picking all the easy fruits and normalizing everyone's head to fucking semblance of sanity.
mircea_popescu: but the problem here to my eyes is that there really is no motherfucking reason for the meta-brain to act like if made of plasticine. really, figuring out the memory hole effect is THAT hard ?
mircea_popescu: the problem with the "we'll just superimpose differently spiked circles into this ball of wrecking" solution is that well...
asciilifeform: the mens sana in corpore sano folx
asciilifeform: circles get raped by the motherfucking athenians tho.
mircea_popescu: 72 * 0.0001 = 0.0072, and allow me to remind you what the mathematical notion of optimal play is
mircea_popescu: should you decide to make it go 72 units to the left, which you can do, what guarantee you can offer re "shortest distance from origin" ?
mircea_popescu: suppose you have 3.141592 squnits of brain. you get the option of making it into a circle [mens sana in corpore sano!!1] and you are guaranteed to be no dumber than 1.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if the meta-brain was made of plasticine, and with a fixed origin. yes you can make it go as far in one direction as you want, but this thins it out in all others, meaning there's an exponential relation between "furthest out" and "furthest in" points
mircea_popescu: no, no, protect smart people from scaling up the dumb.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this, incidentally, is the one cure / amulet of protection / curse removal / whatever actually worth finding.
mircea_popescu: phf did you read the story ? he did become a mage.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think so, since moses was a man on a mission from god, it would be a distraction for him (from the mission) to choose to become a magi, hence the story
mircea_popescu: you lot can not be trusted. the smarter you get, the less you can be trusted not to be dumb.
asciilifeform: pretty much the whole of usgology boils down to 'keep folks with brains from accessing the boojum'
mircea_popescu: [hence why jews have the best old stories - they had the courage to do what good writers always do, go in the middle and subvert the trope]
asciilifeform: when somebody with half a brain gets the bottle, all bets off.
mircea_popescu: is then the wall one fucks a woman by that gift ?
mircea_popescu: is it a wall, that the impotent can not fuck, for the not fucking ?
phf: also stories about dimwits getting genie bottles always have some moral to them that's applicable to "real life". there's really no moral to solomon getting genie bottle, since solomon is that with or without one
mircea_popescu: if roxy goes into the bath in front of the trusty eunuch, is she a pile of bricks ?
mircea_popescu: they are both selected for dullness, arguably of distinct kinds, but ultimately very much the same : they're the sort women want to raise their babies [if not to make their babies].
asciilifeform: consider the folks who often rise up in times of civil war etc
asciilifeform: i.e. the folks who play lotto, are selected in practice for dullness
asciilifeform: btw thinking again about it, lotto is quite like usgotto in that the skill distrib. in either case is NOT random
mircea_popescu: i dunno, that it dilutes the cool ?
asciilifeform: is there any practical reason not to have spare bot ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell trinque the problem with deedbot being offline is that i am forced into the dilemma of either turn ben_vulpes req for voice down, or else voice people outside of the model. i don't like either horn, at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they will, in article i'm writing.
mircea_popescu: it's a case of "the cure seeker never really needed a cure - magic was always in him ; the non-seeker... well..."
asciilifeform: i did not say there were.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no cure.
mircea_popescu: the issue is not political.
asciilifeform: my point being that the actual amount of 'polit reliability' asked of the esr folk is minimal.
asciilifeform: but it isn't as if they were paid on actual hard money that could buy the necessary truck of kalash ammo
asciilifeform: and not only are they selected as the 'least likely to take the money and run to namibia',
mircea_popescu: or as the women call it, "civilisation".
mircea_popescu: knowing as we do in fact know that children normally develop into whole men almost half of the time, their presence is proof of artifice,
phf: none of these people are hired to do something out of their nature, they show up how they are, hence lobotomized
mircea_popescu: there's a deep reason that works, and that deep reason is that these aren't whole men.
asciilifeform: how really different are the two ?
mircea_popescu: in the second kind, highly intelligent BUT SPECIFICALLY LOBOTOMIZED male is gently nudged back into the pen.\
mircea_popescu: in the first kind, random derp ends up with some chumpatronium. being random he is randomly distributed re skill, and normally the juice leaves him. similarly if i took a marketable blonde and told her to go live with random guy on the street, which she will because they do what i say, he'll STILL manage to lose her over time.
mircea_popescu: there's lotto and then there's usgotto.
asciilifeform: or any other lotto champ.
asciilifeform: the progression from lottery winner to pauper is sop tho
phf: esr is the guy who's into guns
mircea_popescu: i god danged mixed them up!
mircea_popescu: oh ers was just begging generically, at the same time orlov needed new engine
mircea_popescu: didn't he have a webbegging page up for a new engine back when the lulz at him started ?
phf: in the end wreckers ended up being much more effective against rms than esr's oss
mircea_popescu: gnu mostly rode on the coattails of the pgp panic of 1990
asciilifeform: the notion being that anything can be buried beneath an infinitely tall pile of 'cheaper, user-friendly', mit-endorsed imitations
mircea_popescu: as is usually the case, i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but for the record, the brief, illusory "wealth" rained on idiots like ers et all had much more to do with zimmerman's work than with, say, murdock's.
phf: mircea_popescu: nah, worst case it doesn't return to a default (typically much more permissive) umask after handling the keys
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-21#1454550 << it's always the same playbook, incidentally. and we're climbing up the same curve with bitcoin, also.
asciilifeform: perhaps the resident zoologists (ben_vulpes ?) could comment.
asciilifeform: i have never seen it in the field. but it appears to be a webtard thing
asciilifeform: 'One note to consider: certification, e.g. OpenSSL on RHEL is certified to FIPS 140-2, so if you used TLS with OpenSSL as the backend the FedGOV/large firms/etc could use salt.' << gold.
asciilifeform: gotta love the 'use openssl like everybody else, peon!' folk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am mostly reading the names so they're in the search.
asciilifeform: or where they are now.
asciilifeform: and no i have no idea who the zoo animals were.
mircea_popescu: "good this was changed, world wasn't doomed before". who the fuck is madduck
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is thatch45 ?
mircea_popescu: o noes, the maid and the gardner!!11
mircea_popescu: looky, even here, the faux is obvious : "solamente correos cifrados porfa thunderbird/enigmail" ? gimme a fucking break.
asciilifeform: the folks who give a shit - know who they are.
asciilifeform: anyway tldr is that 'hackteam' used a boatload of commercial crapolade on their lan.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sorry, i can't go through the introduction
asciilifeform: word on the street is that it was published in sp as a deliberate insult.
asciilifeform: well the phacts check out.
mircea_popescu: and fucking luchemos omfg. everything is wrong with these people. EVERYTHING
mircea_popescu: here's a thought, nobody that needs to discuss computing in his dumb mother's tongue has what it takes to "luchar".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tldr - linked item purports (pgp-signed..) to be account of the hackteam vivisection.
asciilifeform: interestingly, if e is not coprime with n, the key cannot be used.
asciilifeform: the 440
asciilifeform: and these are just moduli that tripped the heuristic checkz
mircea_popescu: in other news i see phuctor numbers marching steadily up, 440/562 by now ?
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing users can't just re-enter their orders or something ? anyways.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu explained this some time in 2013 but i haven't the link here.
asciilifeform: and in the basic braindamage of communicating with strangers for whom you have no hard point of introduction.
asciilifeform: the weakest link was always in the fingerprint mechanism
asciilifeform: and then to spray out blatantly doctored keys etc.
asciilifeform: and so resorted to flooding the market with braindamaged 'embrace&extinguish' incarnations of it,
asciilifeform: it lifts the cover on - imho - a very interesting time period
asciilifeform: there is a very mass-grade-digging-up, time-capsule-like feeling to reading phuctor output
asciilifeform: (only filling the tank and doing basic static tests, calculator will be installed later this week)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: ;;later tell jurov could you look at CoinBr, seems whatever mircea_popescu did messed up the account balance
mircea_popescu: they don't currently HAVE trillions, for any purpose, including feeding the apparatus.
asciilifeform: one can at least dream that they will sink a few $trillion into hardware that we can then brick.
asciilifeform: anyway the todd piece seems to suggest that intel finally coughed up their miner.
mircea_popescu: yet somehow inexplicably, the lengthy string of apologies and mp-worship does not seem to in any sense balance out the very short chain of vitriol and mp-bashing.
mircea_popescu: the ustards, as worthless as the middle east showed them
asciilifeform: but the american one went limp
asciilifeform: iirc there originally were ~two~ minercartels
asciilifeform: reminiscent of ukr atrocities where the ss came and barfed
asciilifeform: 'Allegedly ChainAnchor was looking into paying miners an additional premium if they mine on top of compliant blocks rather than on top of non-compliant blocks; a possible strategy for miners might be to use compliance as a tie-breaker when determining what side of a fork to mine on. It’s also easy to imagine tools like DoS attacks being used, as well as legal, regulatory, and even social pressure. Finally of course, once a majority
asciilifeform: miners will receive as much printolade as it takes. the ones who refuse - 'have problems' etc.
asciilifeform: the zero knowledge proof protocol with the IdP-PV prior to mining for ChainAnchor permissioned-transactions.'
asciilifeform: 'n the ChainAnchor semi-permissioned overlay a successful miner receives a further additional payment (beyond the new coins and transaction-fees in Bitcoin) for completing a block consisting only of permissioned-transactions. For a validated permissioned-block, IdP-PI and IdP-PV must verify that the successful Miner’s public-key is found in the Verified Identities Database. That is, they both must ensure that the Miner has executed
asciilifeform: 'Based on the information I have available to me, it appears that the MIT ChainAnchor Project is in part an attempt to get Bitcoin users to register their real world identities and associate their transactions with those identities. Initially this would be on an opt-in basis, however it appears that ChainAnchor has a longer-term plan to bribe and coerce miners into only mining transactions from registered users, eventually prohibitin
midnightmagic: I'm going to go murder some videogame people and make some geeks scream futilely at their TVs now; I mention this mostly to excuse myself from present conversation and so as not to exit said chat more rudely than I must. As always, nice to be able to use words bigger than two syllables, dude. \o
mircea_popescu: generally by people not very good with them.
midnightmagic: He hated them. He liked nice horses but as a whole found them capricious and unpredictable beasts harder to maintain than an old austin.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic he was 70ish, and was a small child at the time.
midnightmagic: My grandfather rode horses.
midnightmagic: Awesome. The cabbie rode horses?
mircea_popescu: the whole argument is that there's nothing wrong with infant and generally youth mortality IN PRINCIPLE.
midnightmagic: No, it's not, but I mention it as an example of why the notion itself is problematic that infants should die in order that the remainder be presumed strong.
mircea_popescu: (i've had the pleasure to do exactly that - by the way, stuck in cab with old driver on avenida corrientes - which has been here since the ancient days before planes were a thing - and reminescing how this road was fine back when 20 men could ride abreast - but not so far today when 3 cars and a bus can)
midnightmagic: I'm not going to be defending millenials, by the way. Their particular deficiencies appear to be maladaptive.
mircea_popescu: not necessarily that far. merely pointing out that this car is worse than a horse is not necessarily a proposition to eschew all further use of fire.
midnightmagic: ahI hardly think a baby's chance encounter with chlamydia is a positive evolutionary pressure. Besides, if all that was the ideal then all medicine must be eschewed in service of the notion of natural selection, while a belief in our *ability to detect long-term positive evolutionary mutations* must be assumed perfect.
mircea_popescu: "oppressed" and "violent" and whatnot sound bad on paper - but in practice all it means is that "you can walk into two bars, one of which has sensibly shittier people than the other". choice is more or less obvious.
mircea_popescu: which is part and parcel of why today's west utterly sucks : most of the walkers should have been dead before puberty.
mircea_popescu: however - it turns out high infant mortality is absolutely necessary for males to even consider starting a family. if there's 0 natural selection going on in the litter the task of extracting unworthy worms from the wailing woman's clutches to bang their head against a rock is just too damned demaning and ultimately not worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: iirc this was discussed in the channel last time someone tried to use the "life expectancy" thing.
midnightmagic: Unrelated factoid: the life expectancy numbers shockingly low are usually calculated as an average including infant mortality rates.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, "This is your XQJ-37 plasma cannon. The only trouble is that since the old model XQJ was cobbled together from junked Amiga motherboards, you can only have one shot on the screen at a time."
mircea_popescu: for one thing, there's the "we were younger then" thing.
midnightmagic: I know of nobody who was happy he was there except Soapy Smith and his gang themselves.
midnightmagic: That is true. Can the poison be separated from the person now? Is it possible to live a pure life in that sense? I know some who do. Like right now. Friends. And while integration with our life is impossible by now, they are wistful.
mircea_popescu: but this is no basis for any sort of discussion of the possibilities.
mircea_popescu: well of course as you are now you'd pick your poison. that's the problem.
midnightmagic: e a kind of fiefdom in such a past I think might wish to make the journey to begin with, but exposure to violence of the sort Soapy Smith meted out is, I think, something no one given the choice with eyes open could make, constitution notwithstanding.
midnightmagic: Of course were I pure hypothetical pure soul standing in front of many bags, into each one I could leap and choose what time I arrived, absent any cultural baggage and in any event viscera at all, perhaps I would think differently. As I am now? Disease, sanitation, violence, injustice, cruelty, exposure, starvation.. these are alien pressures to any of us. A rare, rare few thinking they could achiev
mircea_popescu: except "civilisation" is what they had, not what you do. and your idea of "justice" is... welll. the sops.
mircea_popescu: stuff like "oppressed" and "hateful" just disolves in its own juices, it NECESSARILY can't mean anything other than http://trilema.com/2013/racists-and-socialists/
mircea_popescu: your epithets are about as interesting as the miners calling you a confused youth with no real understanding of the world.
midnightmagic: The people who sought out the Klondike were people whose lives were often equally brutish, violent, oppressed, and hateful. Hard work was so hard by our reckoning that doing it at home or believing the lies of the thrice-remove rumour mill impossible to corroborate was enough to drive them by the thousands across land and sea and river for the promise of a life *where they no longer had to deal with
mircea_popescu: 100 ways to die in the west or no, mark twain died in his bed after smoking two carloads worth of cigars.
mircea_popescu: just because one style of lying is replaced by another style of lying doesn't mean we've reached any closer to "factual".
midnightmagic: Amusing tangential but related example is Seth McFarlane's diatribe in 100 Ways To Die In The West, which in its agonizing detail describes wild west living in a way rarely seen in sanitized novels written by people more interested in Marty Robbins folk song. :)
mircea_popescu: nor the college debt nor the unlivable sky.
mircea_popescu: the people who went to klondike SOUGHT OUT the perilous life they lived. the people stuck in traffic sought out no traffic.
a111: Logged on 2015-05-15 06:31 cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$$
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic as far as the "100 years" thing, i'll retreat behind cazalla's words : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-15#1132928
mircea_popescu: the notion that this sort of trade appeals to anyone but the patently insane is... well.. patently insane.
mircea_popescu: and then explains the importance of abortion for to increase the qty of quarts of icecream in the house.
mircea_popescu: instead, she gets a mother that forces a curetage on her that ends up with a hysterectomy,
mircea_popescu: consider as a simple example palindromes, a 2004 film by todd solondz. it tells the story of a plain, common girl aged 13 that wants to get pregnant. she is in this representative of a small but present throughout history minority. for living in any other time, she would have had a husband, children and a family and been perfectly happy. such as is amply recorded, as undesirious we might be to look at the records.
midnightmagic: I merely intended to convey the hypothetical notion of an actual life as experienced first-hand. Even 100 years ago frontiersmen arriving to the Klondike, as a more accessible example, lived a life so perilous and filled with hardship I doubt nearly anyone alive would choose to return to it.
mircea_popescu: in all other cases, abso-fucking-lutely no.
mircea_popescu: "a factual account" is an exercise in nonsense. should this "factual" be presented in ideological terms alligned with the present insanity, and should this "tabula rasa" item be somehow atuned to same ideological terms (which has exactly no chance of happening, but they invested in promoting and preserving said idiocy like to pretend it's somehow natural and universal, like all other ideological blind tunnels ever), then yes.
midnightmagic: Either through modern weakness, or perhaps a lack of related distant observational choice of a pure soul about to be born, it would surprise me indeed to discover a current-era developed-nation citizen who when presented with a factual account of ancient human life would choose to return to primal ways. The romance of the garden of eden is similarly equidistant from fact as is the romance of classic
mircea_popescu: the only crapsack world is the present, in the sense that the only time most nobody, historical or contemporary actually would choose to live, is now.
mircea_popescu: the latter point being in dispute.
midnightmagic: Such a thing did I not say; but rather to assert both that a 12-day repeating cycle would be a sad life, and that ancient humans lived a sad and brutish life to which few, if any, modern humans would realistically adhere should they find themselves the unwitting beneficiary of what heretofore might be considered the romantic notion of historical displacement!
mircea_popescu: ~nobody at any point in history was as sad a lot as the ~1bn dead souls captive in the said remains of "the western world"
mircea_popescu: the notion that the aforementioned 7 day cycle / daily cycle human was SAD is so much fan wank, to survive in the minds of the incredibly sad contemporary population mostly on the grounds that hey, panglossism is easy and where would they meet a german serf anyway, to find out first hand he was actually having a better life than they do.
midnightmagic: Historically humans have been a fairly sad lot by the reckoning of reasonably educated developed-nation citizens. But no, it just seems that while I look away things happen that I find interesting with frequent regularity.
mircea_popescu: hey, most humans historically lived on a 7 day cycle composed of a smaller 1 day cycle 85% of the time.
midnightmagic: dangit. everybody seems to do things the exact times I'm not actively observing..
midnightmagic: hrm. maybe the /topic needs and update for accuracy's sake re: +v being a sort of viral thing
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: so if you are majority owner of the new private mpex, did you just force a sale of mpex to yourself?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic> oh. I thought anyone who could +v themselves could $up? << i'm not entirely sure how this even works by now. possibly only l1 ?
midnightmagic: oh. I thought anyone who could +v themselves could $up?
asciilifeform: but the basic litmus is now built-in and it turned up a buncha strange.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot there.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, boiz and gurlz, enjoy (enjirl) the all-new Braindamage section.
asciilifeform: (plz do not bookmark the rss yet! url will change to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com soon)
mircea_popescu: lemme see one second, how was the key recover thing
mircea_popescu: but anyway - you can self-voice for an indefinite period by pm-ing deedbot $up and then $v the otp it gives you
mircea_popescu: anyway, how's life these days.
mircea_popescu: well they already paid out.
mircea_popescu: they don't have any monetary value or anything.
mircea_popescu: still there for collectors, ie, people just like you, who might want a screenshot\
copumpkin: whoops, I pasted the wrong thing
mircea_popescu: for one thing, seems to be way before the last mpex key update years ago ?
mircea_popescu: when's the last time you used it ?
copumpkin: anyone know what's up with either of those?
mod6: So I dunno when I said I was going to check in on the list of things to do, if that was today or friday or whatever. But I'm just getting started now. Been too damn beat down since Friday to even do anything.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, the web-irc thing seems to be fine.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 23:06 trinque: well... we did do the nose
mircea_popescu: mod6> I'll have to discuss with ben on the IRC section, do we even allow people to use the webclient to connect here? <<< i thought so, no ?
mircea_popescu: wywialm yes but the offer's not clear. asked if you need money, turns out no ; asked if you need skill, turns out no. well...
trinque: well... we did do the nose
ben_vulpes: shat out an otp, successful decryption of which set a session on the user's browser.
trinque: I just dumped cliki2 on there; needs a better stylesheet
shinohai: On the off chance someone finds it and wants to contribute, want them to show up in proper channel.
mod6: I'll have to discuss with ben on the IRC section, do we even allow people to use the webclient to connect here?
shinohai: I'll set up a gofundme for research. If the cryptoid horseshit can get funds so can I.
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6 they sell "crumbs" too so I wonder if a trail of those leads bimbos to your door? << inquiring minds want to know!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 or ben_vulpes Should the #b-a part be changed on http://thebitcoin.foundation/ ?
BingoBoingo: Prepped for storage well they'll survive out of the ground longer.
danielpbarron: they keep for a few months and then they better be in the ground already
danielpbarron: it's prolly harder to do such a thing with bulbs. there already exist plenty of companies doing this, it's a very large market, it's a perishable product, very very heavy, need good connections, etc..
mircea_popescu: honestly this just reduced in my head to basically "hey, i want to be mp, and for the year to be 2012". so i guess... good luck with it ?
mircea_popescu: so how does the exchange get its price signal (other than the obvious "what'd be most convenient for the market making project")
wywialm: the market making project is separate from the exchange. i designed both, but they are independent from one another
mircea_popescu: this is also the first time you mentioned the exchange is going to take positions too ?
wywialm: no, as i said before, i already have the automated market making algorithms, i look for expanding its funding
wywialm: i could offer my candidature, but of course this may be unsuitable for you. in that case, i could present the details to a person of your choice
mircea_popescu: who'd be running the pc anyway ?
wywialm: the exchange has not yet launched and CDS mentioned above are to be implemented yet, but i asked about f.mpif knowing that in case of your slightest interest, any preparations will take a lot of time.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't get it, what the fuck difference does it make that guy's dad used to be a chiropractor ?!

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