mircea_popescu: punkman sure there are.
asciilifeform: or these are ssl keyz
asciilifeform: either that or he used ft meade's sks
mircea_popescu: so... not only did he lie about having run the code ; once getting called on it, he ACTUALLY FABRICATED SOME EXAMPLES.
mircea_popescu: that's 2 of 2, what the fuck am i even doing here.
asciilifeform: for all of them, in fact.
asciilifeform: will do this when i get back to the right console
mircea_popescu: these, to my eyes, count as EXACTLY nothing.
asciilifeform: i saw at least 1 of these.
mircea_popescu: dude there's soemthing amiss here.
mircea_popescu: i mean specifically the 128 byte ones.
mircea_popescu: buncha them, really.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe it's one of those typical if hysterical cases of "thief claiming theft" and we discover HE doped the sks servers.
asciilifeform: ~more~ than in my set ?? where'd the new ones come from.
mircea_popescu: snapshotted on some trilema article or other.
mircea_popescu: no he didn't. he didn't get as far as removing the dsa/ecc keys out of the sks dump to get a proper count of rsa moduli
asciilifeform: this year's boeck reluctantly, grudgingly, ran the fucking proggy
mircea_popescu: and then claimed to have ran it, but then his claim ran into the jagged shores of reality when he could not produce ONE SINGLE VERIFIABLE STATEMENT
asciilifeform: there was an output in his shithub iirc
mircea_popescu: they just don't do anything useful is all.
asciilifeform: and besides, hot chix dun lie do they
mircea_popescu: yes, perhaps the moon is made of cheese.
mircea_popescu: by this theory i'm available for coming out of cakes at parties.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was a form that did nothing. how is this "Available"
asciilifeform: ^ is what there was.
asciilifeform: or iirc there was a form!
asciilifeform: 'The keycheck service is no longer available.'
mircea_popescu: punkman pgpgram me your ssh key, i'll add it and you can log into account. nothing really happening there atm, so you should be ok.
mircea_popescu: phf anyway, at the very least that thing needs long term seeders ; which is a mitzvah.
mircea_popescu: like these things go.
mircea_popescu: at some point, esp the smaller markets, were 2/3 usg by mass
asciilifeform: there weren't so many of'em
mircea_popescu: send men to where they have leverage - such as by exposing a whole swathe of usg "law enforcement" derps.
mircea_popescu: otherwise you're sending men to blow glass with lungs, warmed with arse.
asciilifeform: that might hold the magic.
mircea_popescu: not to mention their wot should be extracted also, ffu.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462750 << there's a 50gb dump of snapshots of dark markets.
mircea_popescu: if you wanna do something, do the gwern thing, punkman disappeared ?
mircea_popescu: phf i already mostly extracted the userbase.
mircea_popescu: it's the internet.
asciilifeform: not my business, i suppose, whether the man is coprophagic, but he forgot to wipe his mouth, it seems.
mircea_popescu: what, you expect people went to your 3rd grade ? how many people were there in that class! 20 ? 30 ?
mircea_popescu: and in other weird news, keybase somehow has > 50k users. wtf.
mircea_popescu: let the fuzzers fuzz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, the most important quality of doing things openly is that every derp everywhere is now able to try and stuff it into his peculiar headbox. there's a lot of "number worshipping" undercurrent i detect in there, sort-of the educated version of "lottery playing systems", which is more repugnant to the civilised man than the political slant. even so.
mircea_popescu: " Could it be that all of the broken e keys were generated by OpenSSL from year 2000 or earlier? " << it could not be. a) none of the keys come from openssl ; b) most keys are post 2000.
mircea_popescu: ah, well. it's their schtick, what.
mircea_popescu: all he's saying is that using THE FOUND FACTORS as some sort of lithmus for the key production process is a dead end. which it is.
asciilifeform: the insistence on 'software bug' whereas it is plain as daylight ~why~ there are 32mirror keys, and why they are for whom they are, is the riotous part.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact composites are broken into not-necessarily-prime chunks, which is more of a function of the random state of the breaker than anything, and the actual bitfield offers no information re the process that made the key
asciilifeform: but yes the large numbers are composites, this is obvious in 5 seconds to a kindergartener
asciilifeform: and the continuing mention of openssl
mircea_popescu: do it, you;ll be amazed at the "artificial intelligence" alphabet, inc employs.
asciilifeform: (i don't presently parse out the subness of subkeys)
asciilifeform: i'd have to reorg the db again.
asciilifeform: considering that we'll be jettisoning the pgp format.
asciilifeform: the abcd thing is an idea. but i wasn't really going for an sks clone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aite, will send you dump then.
mircea_popescu: incidentally-2 : you absolutely should introduce a (faux) directory structure of the type /ABCD/ABCD/ABCD/ABCD/ABCD/ABCD/ABCD/ABCD where each superior "directory" lists the subs it contains, and the last level lists actual keys. google will utterly lap this up. and it's useful in the general, passive sks.
asciilifeform: whereas feeding'em in at the mouth end risks stalling when there are hordes of gawkers
mircea_popescu: oh and incidentally, definitely worth reading gwern.net ; that fellow is almost exactly the tmsr antichrist : haskellite as far as computing science goes ; consumate lesswrongian as long as theology goes ; tardpedia "inclusionist" as long as political philosophy goes. pretty much every mistaken, poisonous or outright wrong assumption "modern" "civilisation" makes, he makes. loudly, unapologetically, roundly.
ben_vulpes: the idiocy on display is no longer even amusing.
ben_vulpes: in other *other* news, "lastpass" password sharting tool won't let users *see* shared passwords, but does provide for *copying* shared passwords and pasting into arbitrary other places on the computer. further, if one gets into the DOM and changes the "password" attr on the relevant element the browser will happily render it in place.
mircea_popescu: am i the only one to have ever asked for "jiztory" in a terminal ?
mircea_popescu: but what does the site say ? PGP key (mirror; fingerprint: 89C588CC; my old key, F7E5D682, is no longer usable)
mircea_popescu: damn these people...
asciilifeform: ''Under certain conditions it allows unprivileged users running under qemu VMs to affect the host Linux kernel in a problematic manner...'
mircea_popescu: punkman turns out i don't have such a wonder ;/ you can have 2tb right now, though. should be ok, nevertheless, i think, seeing how it's not a single file/item, but a collection.
asciilifeform: and how cruel, how unreasonable, the beating i administered must've seemed to audience.
mircea_popescu: totally puts a stake through the heart of the "fair price" nonsense also. what is this "fair price", to hire the man that knows the future ? the causes of the past ?
mircea_popescu: in a sea of "who could have predicted", the man who does predict is but amused.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, you should be upset the world's not beating down your door with job offers post phuctor ? what should i say ? that why is not every presidential wreath in the world mailed to me ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "ecc is dead - not because mp said ecc is dead, but for other reasons altogether"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, by the reaction of fromphuctors i thought it was opaque
asciilifeform: speaking of the rsa-less.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which, the eggog ?
punkman: there are a couple companies that do comprehensive crawls of pastebins, could be worth looking into
asciilifeform: at the end of a werker run, all keys that were part of the run, are marked nonwaiting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is still 3 or 4 days worth of old sks archive, being pumped in.
asciilifeform: where's the priv
asciilifeform: 2/3 of the remainder - homework
asciilifeform: about 1/2 of them trollage
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: these oughta be edible.
asciilifeform: incidentally there are perennially privkeys floating on 'pastebin' etc.
asciilifeform: this was part of my plan for the rewrite
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/a8d2965d89bd18287633be95f4abda5c/tumblr_nu9w3p7Msi1s5ycf8o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, just get the 8ball expander to work constantly, fill a core or something.
asciilifeform: with these people.
asciilifeform: srsly the modus operandi NEVER changes
asciilifeform: ''ImageMagick allows to process files with external libraries. This feature is called 'delegate'. It is implemented as a system() with command string ('command') from the config file delegates.xml with actual value for different params (input/output filenames etc). Due to insufficient %M param filtering it is possible to conduct shell command injection. One of the default delegate's command is used
mircea_popescu: nice. so then let all these things converge. the server ssh keys ; the user ssh keys ; the pgp keys and the 8ball werker.
asciilifeform: currently on other box
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by the way, do you have any kind of werker to keep adding primes to the 8ball ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the thing's been a blessing for hackers for many years now.
asciilifeform: 'There are multiple vulnerabilities in ImageMagick, a package commonly used by web services to process images. One of the vulnerabilities can lead to remote code execution (RCE) if you process user submitted images. The exploit for this vulnerability is being used in the wild. A number of image processing plugins depend on the ImageMagick library, including, but not limited to, PHP's imagick, Ruby's
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
asciilifeform: i can throw them in as a specialcase.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform had she had the common sense to wot i would.
mircea_popescu: there already exists a "various ssh formats" conversion ; need to bolt on base16/10 number and pgp format.
mircea_popescu: with the first half, yeah. we also need a general purpose multiconverter.
asciilifeform: in the wild.
mircea_popescu: first things first. the ssl keys thing - both github and search.
asciilifeform: but >1/2 of the phucked
mircea_popescu: only 5% ish fo the pile of braindamage.
mircea_popescu: somehow illiterate street urchins in all the large cities, 1916 as well as 2016 can master this basic concept before age 14. yet it eludes the byproducts of welfare state.
mircea_popescu: you can do whatever the fuck you want, including help yourself to a double serving of his wife
mircea_popescu: there is a difference between YOU DOING and HE DEMANDING.
mircea_popescu: really, he's going to trade his "giving a shit" for me doing more work on top of the work i did that he can't do in the first place ? in what fucking world!
mircea_popescu: (number one issue for the noob slaves, too, "it wasn't explained". bitch, i'm going to beat you into a pulp, what explain. figure it the fuck out, it's your ass.)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
asciilifeform: that was in the bench, i almost sat on it!111111
mircea_popescu: you didn't notice the anal dildo. those things are "viscerally piloted".
asciilifeform: on the dashboard.
mircea_popescu: in the air ?
phf: *last action hero, rather
asciilifeform: he has theorems.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't fly airplanes either
mircea_popescu: think about it in these terms : 1. i can sail, and actually used to be / could be very good at it (right body type) ; 2. i could afford a yacht, what. 3. i don't either. ???
mircea_popescu: trust me. after the 9999th winch tick, it's against your will.
phf: sometimes i still see these santa barbara americans though, old men with "silver hair" driving a Mercedes, or mostly on the metro here. they always look so lost and small, like they walked from the screen, "the last American hero" style. except instead of like punching the car window and discovering that it hurts, their credit card is denied or something, and they are like "what is that???"
asciilifeform: i mean, these kidz ~did~ have vacation houses, did end up in princetonyaleward, etc.
mircea_popescu: then this error compounds, because it's selective.
mircea_popescu: in the way where they make sense in your emulation in places they make no sense irl.
asciilifeform: saw them, alive.
asciilifeform: i went to school with the fuckers
mircea_popescu: phf i'm like the emperor-god xenomorph from the future, i go "what was that bullshit tv series from the early 90s with all the boats" and wihin minutes a woman pops the name. unfuckingbelivable.
mircea_popescu: that is the place where your "yacht rats" thing actually exists.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was that sitcom called, hm.
mircea_popescu: and from the same period : http://67.media.tumblr.com/553d044a935e96986194c201744734bc/tumblr_n21vgdx3nk1r38h27o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: i watched them alive.
asciilifeform: not wholly mythical animals, these.
asciilifeform: they also exist at least in, e.g., annapolis (seaside town i passed through recently)
mircea_popescu: [for this side of the iron curtain folks : insanely popular fashion mag because it included patterns for all items so pre-industrial girls and young women could make them at home. first western mag to be published in russia ; and in china. easily beat anything cosmo ever was or could be.]
asciilifeform: i had an office across the hall from no less than a major
mircea_popescu: i could see (maybe) why you wouldn't want non-citizen grunts in the army.
mircea_popescu: eh, half the time there isn't who to ask what color to paint the walls, let alone substantial matters.
asciilifeform: ask them not me (tm)
trinque: yes, but the ways in which "success" is "measured" involve "enough blacks/women/... ?"
asciilifeform: yer thinking of the private sector
mircea_popescu: read the fine print.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: letter of the law is, i quote, 'RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, NATIONAL ORIGIN'
mircea_popescu: also, afaik "american nondiscrimination laws" work strictly to protect enumerated groups. women, blacks, what have you. "foreign born white men" isn't on the list.
asciilifeform: so it boggles my mind that other folks did not do same.
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> and does THE ONE THING. << anT i mean, obviously. heh.
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile - no, the Βασιλεύς Βασιλέων, Βασιλεύων Βασιλευόντων is not paying any of them anything.
mircea_popescu: the "western civilisation" may survive only in this limited sense.
mircea_popescu: so they'll fuck around with the rings, forever. hopefully their children will be raped into sanity. i'm doing a little towards that, if the children happen to be easy on the eyes and female. that'sall.
mircea_popescu: an order to remove rings is equiv to a death setence, for them.
mircea_popescu: now - https://asoutherngirlinsouthafrica.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/3311565227_51a8bf7bf9_o2.jpg
mircea_popescu: these people are what has come to mean in english "scientists". they will do the thing they do, no matter what.
mircea_popescu: and does THE ONE THING.
mircea_popescu: look : they're what they are. this is pointedly not us. the difference between man and and is that ant is specialized physiologically. man can drop what he's doing and do something else, or pick a different set of tools, or approach, or whatever.
asciilifeform: the malfeasance that couldn't be any plainer than this daylight ?
mircea_popescu: hey, it's a seclist! what do you want them to discuss.
mircea_popescu: pointedly not what happened there. what happened there was, "this kid made an airplane ; this other retarded kid made a playdough blob. the first kid called him retarded. let's list them in order : playdough blob ; airplane. let people fly with whichever they choose."
asciilifeform: but it is interesting to watch how the beast digests.
asciilifeform: can anyone actually reply to the seclist turd ?
mircea_popescu: how did that george costanza quote go, "but mr tuttle, consider i'm in the smaller office!"
asciilifeform: the fastgcd thing is henninger's
mircea_popescu: obviously, they're going to copy whatever phuctor publishes, which is fine but also rather obvious.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in practical terms - so he references both. good for him. anyone interested in doing some work can look at either site and proceed. i can't find any useful item AT ALL on factorable net. not as much as a factor or anything. some vague discussions in summary of supposed finds substantiated in no manner. if this is science you can also be pope, why not.
mircea_popescu: "There are even weirder examples, though - e.g., one of Phuctor's factors is 0x115CFF61CFECFF61BE9, where we see three 32-bit limbs satisfying: limb[1] = limb[0] + limb[2] and also limb[2] is small and thus likely didn't come from a CSPRNG, but possibly from uninitialized memory." << very good point. this person's actually intelligent.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, and the domain was reigstered in 2012. this doesn't serve here : they have to have history specifically in the things discussed. otherwise, it's not unlike someone applying to a job requiring 5000 hours of flight experience on the basis of his driving license from 1993. fine.. but ?
BingoBoingo: In other lulz http://qntra.net/2016/05/phuctor-factors-united-states-disa-key/#comment-56341
mircea_popescu: o nice find BingoBoingo ! check out the paydirt quote asciilifeform :
mircea_popescu: yet another rush job brought to you by drhoaxtoshi.labs
mircea_popescu: .5% of tls rsa they say.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: anyway, lettuce read on teh bbc the stuff they read on trilema back in january 2015 and took a year and a half to digest! clearly "the media" is relevant, influential and what was the other one.
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/91ec1875268cf60f161c0b47b8d71b9d/tumblr_nfk9frdlf31spdrm0o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: all these noobs!
jurov: asciilifeform: toplevel trb is just redirected to thebitcoin.foundation, that is ran by mod6
Chicago will get on the WoT soon.
Chicago: :p some people watch football, some people watch soap operas, some people like talking to a brick wall on the Undernet.
Chicago: BingoBoingo, you should mourn on Undernet in #political or #politics with the masses.
Chicago: Ah, okay. Maybe the claim Trump will pick Hillary as his VP has some merit to it.
Chicago: At the time the Barracuda ES.2 drives were manufactured, their promotional materials were quite attractive. As time progressed, there were a number of problems with them similar to the IBM Deskstar (Deathstar) hard drives.
Chicago: It could be worse. There is a series of checks, tests and configurations I employ before putting a spindle into production. This is because I have a battery of Seagate Barracuda ES.2 drives from circa 2008/2009 which I still want to use. Some of them are just bad, from known firmware problems and the others need to somehow prove themselves to be *good enough* to use for scratch data handling.
Chicago: Otherwise, just waiting on some hdparm security-erase to complete on a disk, so I can throw it into a scratch array. I needed some space to work on a large collection of files, to tarball them before archiving them on tape.
Chicago: mircea_popescu, I'm well, thanks. Happily celebrating the Trump victory in nearby Indiana today. How is Mircea?
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: some people gotta see their eviscerated children. each his own./
mircea_popescu: some people grok the concept on seeing a dead cat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform until i hear different, actual scientists involved have no fault some imbecile "journalist" / online whore dragged their name in.
asciilifeform: oh speaking of these people,
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently the video that earned her the trigglypuff nickname was entertaining, but I ain't got time for that. Just gotta leave the triggering stuff here for when Hanno reads the logs before his astroturf sessions.
mircea_popescu: all hail the dark lord.
mircea_popescu: maybe their email client is also misbehaving.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462316 << this is not a 32-mirror. i would dearly love to know how the schmuck generated his key.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, the world is too harsh to face without theatre. at least for most bipedals.
mircea_popescu: like any theatre, state necessitates willing suspension of disbelief.
mircea_popescu: the unravelling of the vaccine story recently is rather symptomatic. a society that no longer accepts the "vaccinarnos es cuidarnos entre todos" is, to use proper terminology, ungovernable.
asciilifeform: su was illustration of what happens if you fail to keep the priests in.
mircea_popescu: not by public at any rate. but gotta keep THE PRIESTS impressed too!
asciilifeform: e.g., the astronomically expensive gc/ms poison detectors, etc.
asciilifeform: 'choose, either us or greenglassocalypse'
mircea_popescu: is what's needed to then force germany to "approve" gpg4win oficially.
BingoBoingo: In other lols Sanders beat Clitler in Indiana. GOP settled their party divide first 111!!!
mircea_popescu: but the fact that there is a "greater good" pretext to force say germany to put them in,
asciilifeform: the neutronographs - not advertised, concealed behind drywall etc.
mircea_popescu: and similarly with the "metal detector" security in airports. tis for the cows, not for the metals.
mircea_popescu: the goal was the same : it gave good basis for the eventual "globalisation", which, without the derpy "peace movement" post nuke detonation would have likely never existed
mircea_popescu: but much like in the case of "metal detectors" in airports, going for about as long, the goal was never THAT.
mircea_popescu: the multi-bn-dollar neutron-detector-at-shipping-interfaces programme, going for well over three decades already, has captured exactly 0 anything.