mircea_popescu: the one thing agar jars produce consistently is failure. human population no better than random chunk of bacteria in this regard.
mircea_popescu: so would bakersfield ; or the whole state of pennsylvania
mircea_popescu: trinque> whether or not this peasantry is undesirable, I think having the land occupied by humans has benefits. << depends, dude. argentina would be certainly better if current population got wiped.
phf: pretty safe bet, if a111 is missing, logs dead, but no worries they are still being recored with my bouncer. i'm almost done with a better logger, that reconnects. will take it live over the weekend
trinque: incidentally, the WoT may be the only social system capable of operating at the scale of a planetary system.
trinque: this idea that we depopulate the earth down to a million individuals or something is not unlike the nerd fantasy that he'd really like his brain to live in a jar in some robot than in his body
trinque: how many humans on earth does it take to raise an army worth a shit? obviously there is not a single answer to that question because then the other guy gets n+1 and it runs away until you're back at now.
trinque: whether or not this peasantry is undesirable, I think having the land occupied by humans has benefits.
trinque: I don't particularly mind the fact that, having covered the whole habitable earth, we killed off most of the species that used to eat us.
trinque: it means to have your species as the dominant predatory species in a given area
trinque: said the sexual dynamics of everything ever
asciilifeform: i suppose i omitted leather.
asciilifeform: (there was once a (3) - plow, but i prefer tractor)
asciilifeform: the bovine has exactly 2 uses:
asciilifeform: i'd rather train seals.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu seems to idealize the poor and stupid because - i suppose - when they come with cunts, those work just as well as any other cunt
mircea_popescu: certainly useless in any individual case, which is the bane of statistics.
asciilifeform: and i don't see the stupid being more likely to conform to fact than anyone else
mircea_popescu: nobody is going to go "oh i am so impressed by the unexpected arguments this young chap has espoused on the internet, i'm going to now change my priors" anymore than you're going to go "o hey, the irc has convinced me, i am now finally moving out of the us". people've made their life choices, and that's that, reality exists only to either promote their personal stupidity or otherwise be ignored as best it can.
mircea_popescu: and this is exactly how it goes with "we just want to ask you a few questions", which is why you don't talk to the police, and everything else.
mircea_popescu: had you said something THEY COULD HAVE USED, they would have. as you said nothing that makes them any better, it never happened.
mircea_popescu: where's the kaiser discussion.
asciilifeform: speaking of drilling fuckable openings, the 'oss' thread appears to be wholly dead.
asciilifeform: and what kind of luser works anyway!1111 winnerz eat from their 10,000 heads of cattle and rent from the baronial landz!11111111111
mircea_popescu: the third party that's interested is only interested in raping them, and generally does not believe in employees.
asciilifeform: which in turn is logical, being that these are the 2 large orgs stuck on, each for its own strange reasons, winblowz
asciilifeform: (i.e. the only folks seriously willing to pay for serious crapware analysis are usg and cn, and i'm not in either's wot)
asciilifeform: (not that you actually ~need~ this, there are 1,001 ways to detect vm, and against 101 there are no countermeasures)
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: ~all~ of them.
mircea_popescu: the part where you assault, arson, rape and pillage is also required.
asciilifeform: then when i and a buncha blokes opened a co that offered thing that would analyze crapware WITHOUT USING VM, that is, on ordinary x86 (but with some hardware magic),
asciilifeform: likewise a large fraction of samples on vt don't even ~run there~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a very large share of the samples on vt are 'not detected'
mircea_popescu: that they don't fucking detect it
asciilifeform: May 06 12:50:33 <mircea_popescu>and in other "internet security" lulz, https://www.virustotal.com/es-ar/url/900d5651bf561ce804766d1a8f3483080a0e3879f16bfb7f820fdffef82fb807/analysis/1462553268 << what is notable about this sample ?
mircea_popescu: are they ?
mircea_popescu: and in other "internet security" lulz, https://www.virustotal.com/es-ar/url/900d5651bf561ce804766d1a8f3483080a0e3879f16bfb7f820fdffef82fb807/analysis/1462553268/
mircea_popescu: aaand in other newzlulz, http://67.media.tumblr.com/b608fef1247d0792af6b7f38e1e4bd69/tumblr_nrlixyrKau1s3qr6wo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1464063 << yet another item they used to have in teh best soviet union.
trinque: I like making use of the WoT just fine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was surreal, last night, whole squad of folks were rubbing in 'all the fun stuff' i could do if only i agreed to join hitler's wot
mircea_popescu: as to the last one : that's it, one call to curl passed through whatever chain of awk/sed/grep
trinque: crap the latter to wotpaste?
mircea_popescu: yeah speaking of which, anyone of the botmasters, young or old, wanna make a gribble replacement ?
asciilifeform: when's the last time this worked ?!
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: "who the fuck are you ?!" "TREMBLE BEFORE ME! FOR I AM TEH GOMIDED OF LYSDEXIA!"
mircea_popescu: that's what you get for being a terminal blessed with the daily touch of a gomided such as myself!
asciilifeform: because otherwise i dun eat.
asciilifeform: well, not being a demigod like mircea_popescu , i actually rely on other people to want to.
mircea_popescu: it's the #1 symptom of esl-ism, and as unbefitting as it's unseemly.
mircea_popescu: stop wanting other people to.
mircea_popescu: well ok mr turtle, so whadda ya want then.
asciilifeform: with that in mind, i am good at a reasonable breadth of things, but again 99% of the employment in them, in as far as i can access, is usg.
mircea_popescu: lol. "the sewage goes into this pond i live in" "you need to live in a better pond" "didn't we discuss the whole i'm not walking on land again thing???"
asciilifeform: didn't we discuss the whole 'i am not voluntarily being 19 with none-of-the-upsides again' thing ?
asciilifeform: (there is an unknown percentage, to be fair, of 'nonemployment' work also, i.e. 0day market, overlapping with the 99, but i have - as previously discussed - no 'in' to it.)
asciilifeform: consider, 99+% of the employment in my field is raw usg.
asciilifeform: quite the rarity, and may be 'too good to be true' etc.
mircea_popescu: do you tell them during interview that a) everything you agree to will have to be presented in writing ; b) you will not do x y or z and soo n ?
asciilifeform: just as well that i am leaving rupture farmz, because a few honest folks there finally informed me of what i already knew, which is that i was being 'warehoused'
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 15:57 mircea_popescu: anyway, perhaps the next one's satisfactorily ribbed or what.
asciilifeform: linked therein.
asciilifeform: but in point of fact there is a tool.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but he has a point, the derp brain is memetic not rational. "the x of y"
asciilifeform: vanity HASH is as strong as the hash algo
asciilifeform: so it is not the same.
asciilifeform: in bitcoin addr there is a ~hash~
mircea_popescu: anyway, perhaps the next one's satisfactorily ribbed or what.
mircea_popescu: you're not only a stakebunny, but also a total stake slut! keep changing them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~today~ no such value. ~tomorrow~, when the ocean of shit overflows - there will be.
mircea_popescu: i don't currently see much value in someone bringing old unknown key rather than freshly made.
asciilifeform: imho we're nearly there even now.
mircea_popescu: there's also that lobe, as distant and sf-ish as it may sound.
asciilifeform: what i do see, is that this'd be good insurance for the spamocalypse when we start ~demanding~, e.g., pre-2020 keys, even to be LOOKED AT
mircea_popescu: recall, the WoT is NOT!!! about the user in question. but about his deeds and their reflection. only.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the matter is not what the derp uses it for. the matter is that i want to mark specific, extant and known items.
mircea_popescu: yes, but for instance i want to be able to nuke some keys of some people who will not come here if it kills them.
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, most uncommitted derps lose their old keyz ten times before breakfast every morning.
mircea_popescu: "we will have all keys prior to T, and add new ones on the basis of X spamtrap only"
mircea_popescu: andre "what happens when enemy gets wind" 1. this is a very valuable canary for such a wonderous change in the enemy ; 2. time offers a natural breaking point, we're protected well by the configuration of the field.
mircea_popescu: depends. if the point is the end result, then yes. if the point is the person doing it, then no.
asciilifeform: trick is that it works best if you have the duplicated thing done in ~improved~ way rather than ad-hoc
mircea_popescu: (in retrospect, from my very instructive republican experience, im discovering that the principal job of management actually is to decide when to and when not to duplicate work. it's a much deeper point than it seems.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. the whole point is to duplicate work.
asciilifeform: where the db already lives.
asciilifeform: perhaps some of this could happen on the massive 'dulap'
trinque: I'm gonna need to upgrade the box, but that's been on my list for a while anyway
mircea_popescu: in any case, the driver for this thought process in my head is, believe it or not, the messing around with phf re beefy few days ago. seems a deeply valuable learning experience, to be exposed to large sets in this sense.
trinque: asciilifeform: how big is the whole key archive?
asciilifeform: the big deal is that a db that gets ~added to~ is not so simple as 'tree of 40 levels'
asciilifeform: 'there aint no such thing as a free lunch'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! yer gonna love the n*log(n) lookups
mircea_popescu: on some level it seems one shouldn't be precluded in rating a key merely because the owner of that key failed to register it with teh republic.
mircea_popescu: trinque what are your thoughts re importing into deedbot the ENTIRE key db as owned by phuctor ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 04:46 mircea_popescu: he's competent, economically. better, what's that. he's a faithful usg muppet, working to make the place more in line with washington's interest.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463847 << ahahaha mircea_popescu may as well open, e.g., scintillator fibre factory, in kentucky then ?!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 08:21 punkman: http://qz.com/676048/the-us-spent-1-4-billion-in-africa-telling-people-not-to-have-sex-and-it-didnt-work/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463926 << this is fall-off-your-chair hilarious until you realize that - quite likely - no puritan derp actually went and told africans not to fuck. instead, the MONEY bought yachts, fattened harvard, bought dope, and whatever else anglo ruling class imbeciles normally do with it.
asciilifeform: because their search space is constrained.
asciilifeform: but what it DOES mean is that folks who know 'where the corpse is buried' can derive yer keyz.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 04:00 mircea_popescu: search me how the fuck they managed to get rng in js, but w/e.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463821 << realize that 'poor rng' does not necessarily mean 'phuctorable.' if the keyspace is reduced from, say, 10^100 to 10^10, it does not follow that given the number of extant keys there will be duplicate factors.
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/cops_deploy_antiterrorist_tech_against_50_chickenwing_thief/
punkman: http://qz.com/676048/the-us-spent-1-4-billion-in-africa-telling-people-not-to-have-sex-and-it-didnt-work/
felipelalli: it's about how the BR HuE destroy everything ahaha
felipelalli: yes.. Do you know what is HuE BR? On the Internet we laugh like that: "auheuaheuahe" http://www.wowgirl.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/hue.png
mircea_popescu: no but there's this thing "oh, you want more users" , "oh what people say/think matters"
mircea_popescu: myeah. contrary to fiatista ideology, the only thing large groups of "people themselves" do is collapse on their own shitweight.
felipelalli: I think Theymos made the right choice to censor (what lead to a split) the subreddit. Now /r/btc is filled with a bunch of derps; it's amazing how they attract each other! <amazing company>
mircea_popescu: fancy that, the emergency went away.
felipelalli: they finally understand that the block aways tends to be full of rubish. Just pay 0.01 $ more and you are free from the tx mud.
felipelalli: at least they stop to talk about that shit of big blocks hahah
felipelalli: but with this incredible fall of ETH they are just quiet now hahah
felipelalli: but they don't understand money is better if older.
felipelalli: some of them says Bitcoin will fatally dies because is "too old", like an old car.
felipelalli: they are masochists, not in BSDM sense lol
felipelalli: now they are in love with ETH
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, maybe not yet, not so many active people here, and most are really stupid yet. They are learning yet what Bitcoin actually is.
mircea_popescu: yet in other cunts, http://65.media.tumblr.com/82a1726ecd72379c6c1eb3dddf149e8f/tumblr_nni0fzwinf1txqtqio1_1280.jpg
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, I have translated that news to Brazilian fb group and they loved the "Boatoshi" hahahh
mircea_popescu: the guy from kentucky has half a dozen broken cars on plastic foil in front of his house ; the guy from brazil has half dozen broken rights on plastic foil in front of his house.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Where's the Albert wildfire piece. I think you already know what the hook should be...
felipelalli: the rich are anti-comm but they are more "statits" than anyone. They really love a strong strong State
mircea_popescu: do you know what's the difference between a guy from brazil and a guy from kentucky ?
felipelalli: but no one of these rights actually really works lol
felipelalli: the people here are crazy for "rights"
mircea_popescu: eh, the extreme left consists of "herp, i'm really lazy, things should happen". that's nevere going anywhere.
mircea_popescu: bitch... you're the fucking president, your life philosophy is "hurr, i'll just do what everyone does" ?
felipelalli: I think the extreme left is going to disappear for some years, at least.
mircea_popescu: i bet if you torture dilma in like a medieval dungeon to tell you the truth, why the fuck she did it,
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't think anyone actulaly understands what they're doing or knows why.
felipelalli: actually they are not personally "so rich" like they could be. They are sick, they just want to impose their communist agenda
mircea_popescu: stealing from "the state" to make one's own fortune is how capitalism always starts.
mircea_popescu: seems these communists were really very savagely capitalistic though
mircea_popescu: new politicians. well... guess what, the new politicians are hungry.
mircea_popescu: they'll replace this lot with... what, aliens ?
mircea_popescu: it's unclear to me what the protestors actually want.
felipelalli: I am a voluntaryist, and we are "splited" about the situation here.
mircea_popescu: anyway. he's better, he's turning the republic of cattle into rancho cucamonga.
mircea_popescu: which is all the better, argentines are imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: he's competent, economically. better, what's that. he's a faithful usg muppet, working to make the place more in line with washington's interest.
felipelalli: and in Argentina the new president is really better or same shit?
felipelalli: at least they didn't come to Brazil yet! maybe because we're very bad too. everything is collapsing, as in the book Atlas Shrugged
mircea_popescu: well, ran out of venezuela one way or another, needed a job.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli actually lots of the runners working for people here are venezuelan chix.
felipelalli: I don't understand how they can survive with that hyperinflation
mircea_popescu: oh and maduro is besieging the parliament lol. pretty lulzy south american spring
felipelalli: everybody watching like the World Cup final.
felipelalli: I was in the same place, this street: http://www.portalcbncampinas.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/6eb6b6f4-39a8-41b3-99ca-7c9f4c1982c4-310x165.jpg
felipelalli: in the day of first and most important impeachment election the people celebrates more than World Cup final!
mircea_popescu: and in other boobs http://66.media.tumblr.com/f0c8ab37fbf5db4069bb217fd15ab9d9/tumblr_nj8cu1qokj1rfxpbko1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: also the eating rate varies with db load (from readers)
asciilifeform: also many of the kb keyz are in sks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463810 << still going, about 5k in. but this is in parallel with the tail end of sks.
mod6: General update: for the last 4 days or so, have been just working out some of the kinks in `t', getting it ready to send to the list.
mircea_popescu: and in other opsec news etc, http://67.media.tumblr.com/676b598c7447a5334fb7d084b806066c/tumblr_nsig6aas3m1uo6u6mo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: as in "are you fresh off the boatoshi ???" etc
mircea_popescu: lol @alfie introducing actually signed messages to the supposed "seclist". which is like... the first time ever the string "sha 512" even appeared in that archive i guess ?
mircea_popescu: it's a pleasure to read their fishwraps.
mircea_popescu: time's not kind to women, but genetics are, and even time's not THAT unkind. nothing can touch the horror puritanism wreaks once it gets going.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463765 << notrly. too many office drones in the "civilised" world.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 18:51 asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
asciilifeform: (afaik eu does not make petrocheese for export or otherwise)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: confusing post, implies that the surplus is of euro - i.e. actual - cheese
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: supposing that i correctly understood mircea_popescu's corn chronicles, the 'obeasts' belong to warren buffett every bit as surely as dr mengele's victims belonged to mengele
BingoBoingo: You just try to forget the horror
asciilifeform: oh i knew that they exist.
asciilifeform: i mention it because it was full of the joys BingoBoingo described.
asciilifeform: corn fields, lolmarts, the worx.
BingoBoingo: Anyways. 38 year old woman on the prowl wants a man who unlike her transmayo ex with an office job that can lay pipe, she goes where the pipe is sold.
asciilifeform: ~100% of the gurlz are hot.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actually i go there often.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On the college campuses and Walmarts. Seriously check the dining hall and not just the library.
asciilifeform: believe or not - they aren't here !
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where are these circus freaks who are supposedly everywhere ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> buying cement ? << Frequently. But they way it works is by going to a venue where working people go they filter out the Beetus Barges at the door for the most part.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what are they doing in home despot ? << Hunting the eligible working men.
asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
shinohai: Whores have to buy their new home supplies with ex's alimony somewhere.
asciilifeform: what are they doing in home despot ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just gotta go to the Home Depot and pick up all the fit divorced womenfolk.
asciilifeform: and i'm told now the farmerz have tv sets, which they stare at instead of old, good, wholesome hobbies like sister-fucking
BingoBoingo: Nah, lolmarts settle on the fringe of such settlements for easy access for major peripheral roads
asciilifeform: yeah but afaik all settlements there now cluster around lolmart
asciilifeform: i used to picture it as quiet, corn fields, tumbleweed, depressed farmers smoking homegrown tobacco and mumbling incoherently, and other nice things
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Funny because most of the photos are Amherst massachussettes
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ous standard at the Amherst Lab.' << Between this, Gavin, and Trigglypuff Amherst is starting to sound like quite the lizard den.
mircea_popescu: entirely reasonable my foot. "if you call things things then things become things" "yeah, such as your face becomes a turd."
asciilifeform: ooooops! i forgot to verify the sig!!11111
asciilifeform: from the lulstream, https://dankaminsky.com/2016/05/03/the-cryptographically-provable-con-man
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent. << Please submit to qntra or longform this lulz. With Phuctor happily churning writing this would be a great public service.
mircea_popescu: and in other criminal entreprise news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/44e412c0fbeb869aa3504361a4a13200/tumblr_nsqp2uAgQ51tyw73vo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as if it was ~ever~ other than a criminal enterprise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many of these until we just declare usg da offices a criminal entreprise wholesale and start prosecuting them for narco crimes ?
asciilifeform: more let's get this done sort of thing." She insisted that she "analyzed everything according to procedures"11 and that she did all the testing required, in fact "double-check[ing] her work." '
asciilifeform: 'According to Farak, the "high" from the drug lasted approximately 8 to 10 hours. In addition, the drug gave her the desired effects that she had discovered in her research: "I felt amazing. It gave me energy. I felt more alert. I did not wish it but it gave me the pep I was looking for." Farak maintained that her work was not affected at the Lab but that the methamphetamine made her "more alert and
asciilifeform: ous standard at the Amherst Lab.'
asciilifeform: 'The report said that the woman began taking the lab's so-called "standard" drugs, the ones purchased from drug companies as a control in testing. "Farak began to consume the Amherst Lab's standards on a fairly regular basis beginning in late 2004 or early 2005," according to the report. "The first standard she admitted to using was the methamphetamine standard, which was the largest or most volumin
asciilifeform: another one for BingoBoingo : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/state-chemist-was-high-daily-thousands-of-drug-prosecutions-jeopardized
asciilifeform: 'The secretive U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court did not deny a single government request in 2015...'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: dump the cert plox ?
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is supposed to be the fed.
asciilifeform: these people.
mircea_popescu: besides, SHE was in the military. not some relative.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Hello, my name is Summer, I am a single mother who is looking for her right Dom. I am currently pregnant with number 2 and about to have her. I am prior military and know how to listen ;). "
asciilifeform: so left it to rot in the sun.
asciilifeform: hitler, apparently, didn't get what he wanted out of the corpse
mircea_popescu: i suppose there's weirder 86 btc purchases.
mircea_popescu: was a heartthrob for a month or so there, because it wasn't all too clear how bitbet will unwind. but in the end bettors were paid 100%
jurov: wow, it was worth 21465 in the end?
mircea_popescu: same to hanbot, even if she was on the - towards the end. and to all others involved.
jurov: or just add the div
mircea_popescu: aahaha if it';s not testimonial then nothing it produces may be entered into record ?
asciilifeform: gotta love the preeets.
asciilifeform eagerly awaits the first official 'coke machine warrant'
asciilifeform: '...authorities obtained a search warrant compelling the girlfriend of an alleged Armenian gang member to press her finger against an iPhone that had been seized...'
asciilifeform: in yet other nyooz, biometric lulz, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-iphones-fingerprints-20160430-story.html