asciilifeform: to first select a curve with very special properties, and then find a seed
asciilifeform: function SHA-1. Given the seed and its associated elliptic curve, anyone
asciilifeform: cients of an elliptic curve were derived by passing a seed through the hash
asciilifeform: special class of curves, a simple procedure was devised whereby the coeffi-
asciilifeform: 'To ensure that the NSA-generated elliptic curves did not belong to a very
asciilifeform: e. People were stunned. In those days the NSA representatives at standards meetings would sit quietly and hardly say a word. No one had expected such a direct and unambiguous statement from the NSA. The ECC standards were approved.'
asciilifeform: 'The nontechnical industry representatives on the ANSI committee were impressed by the RSA argument. As the heated debate continued, the NSA representative left to make a phone call. When he returned, he announced that he was authorized to state that the NSA believed that ECC had sufficient security to be used for secure communications among all U.S. government agencies, including the Federal Reserv
asciilifeform: as untested and based on esoteric mathematics. '
asciilifeform: 'The first time the NSA publicly and decisively gave support to ECC occurred at a meeting of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) in December 1995. The backers of RSA at the meeting were casting doubt on the safety of ECC-based protocols; in the mid-1990s a page called “ECC Central” on the RSA website carried statements by leading personalities in cryptography that characterized ECC
shinohai: MAy as well shutter the DEA now
shinohai: yeah working on wiki stuff trinque ... trying to learn clwiki formatting, of which there seems to be little
asciilifeform: https://www.pgpru.com/servisy/packetdump << they have a pgp packet dumper, but it seems to barf on anything i give it
mircea_popescu: it's not supposed to work in THAT sense. fuck the orcs, who cares. it's supposed to work in THIS other sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another minor l0l, https://www.pgpru.com/forum/rabotasgnupg/gpg4wincherezanusrasshifrovyvaetkirillicu << all the orcish font support is for naught, gpg4win craps out rubbish when used with cyrillic
asciilifeform: but crying in the right direction!111
asciilifeform: not quite, mostly folks crying into their drinks
shinohai: Quick question twiw: Does deedbot operate on the same L1 & L2 scheme as assbot did?
mircea_popescu: you can tell by the face ?
asciilifeform: that face - no theorems.
mircea_popescu: all the worship of one gender by the other does in practice is sink that other, moldavian men are some of the most miserable, whiny, incompetent and discapacitated dudes you'll ever see. almost gypsy level (and guess why gypsies - much like niggers btw - are cowardly ? yes it's because female worship, of fucking course).
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, moldavia is still a shithole. always was a shithole.
mircea_popescu: not even any man specifically, manhood as a transcendental superiority. visible in how seventeen year olds behave in public to a larger degree than the insolence of anglos is visible ; visible throughout.
mircea_popescu: http://olegbumbac.blogspot.com.ar/2012/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html << maybe interesting to the esl crowd that earnestly believes "western decay" is "woman's fault" because they somehow oppress males or are feminazis or whatever : the supposedly independent republic of moldavia exhibits the EXACT opposite atmosphere (like many ex soviet sattelite provinces, actually, orcland). the females are outright worsh
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:13 mircea_popescu: mod6 could graph be vertical rather than horizontal alligned ?
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459548 << mircea_popescu, so would a Left to Right orientation be alright then?
mircea_popescu: if the fucking chopper pilot needed a lifesized model to land his bird...
mircea_popescu: eh, i imagine it must utterly suck to work pr for the usarmy etc. you're stuck reading the internet, this unique mezclado of pointed ignorance and cured coincidence.
mircea_popescu: "accurate" in this context does not mean "geometrically identical to rando tourist with a camera", but "of such configuration all scripted scenes can be filmed without visible difference". you can fold it, which is what they did. burbank does the exact fucking thing all the time.
asciilifeform: incidentally might ask archive.is why they ssl.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ask them, not me.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck even bother with https already. it's insecure, we know this.they don't even cursory make an attempt. what's next, go on tor ?
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody makes any hay of the fact that THE SERBS WERE INTERCEPTING NATO MILITARY COMMS. IN 1999!
asciilifeform: i still wonder why cn forgave the 'accidenting' of its embassy so easily.
mircea_popescu: experimentally, intelligent girls they forget to teach about how they're creative and can't learn math accidentally learn math just like normal human beings. idem intelligent boys they forget to teach they should be shy and inept do just fine. in other news, http://i40.tinypic.com/69i0dz.jpg
asciilifeform: no matter if there is no one else around.
mircea_popescu: the difference being that there's good anatomic reasons for female physical weakness ; there's no good reasons whatsoever for intelligent kid social ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: it's a typical behaviour of the weak (which is how women end up so ensconced in the general aspic of stupid womanhood), that's veheheeerily carefully cultivated by socialist/female society.
asciilifeform: the 'seeks approval' kid
asciilifeform: ah l0l! the grinding wheels !
mircea_popescu: this usually overlaps with the subset that has any chance at getting any.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. it's the sort of kid that seeks approval in school.
mod6: alf: congrats on the quitting
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465312 << not sure what it has to do with 'smart kidz' though. it is really more about folks who have been behind the barbed wire for too long, of whatever level
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 23:20 mircea_popescu: because he purports to misrepresent reality, and worst of all - the reality of his own fucking experience - in castrato terms. o really, "elitism is bad" ? fuck you. if you believe that, how come you're here ?
shinohai: I like the framework, simple no nonsense
mod6: Thanks for getting him going trinque, this is most important work. And salud to you for providing the framework!
mod6: i'm getting closer with that part, just trying to make the graphing a bit better.
mod6: but, either way, could still be integrated downstream
mod6: although, i haven't done enough thinking on this yet to actually have a plan or anything. just throwing that out there.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, has some interesting interplay with key updates - suddenly in a V world, the principal reason to get a new key is, "i'm sick of all tyhe old bullshit, wanna take a year off and rebase everything. here's my new key.")
mircea_popescu: the only way you'll ever find out it was wrong would be through people using it
mod6: then we'd have one nasty genesis.
mod6: but for instance, let's just say that everything about the graphing or whatever things were being discussed this weekend were wrong.
mircea_popescu: gtfo already. it never was a game, it was always rape, and we always raped them. what "not a game anymore".
mircea_popescu: all the bullshit about a very faux, miserable definition of "ethics" - no, ethics is pointedly NOT what he thinks, not anymore than capitalism is what the us runs ; all the bullshit about how "it's not a game anymore" as if a) it ever was and b) the losers, ie, "law enforcement", derpy marketeers and generally the feminine enemy is possibly ever in any manner even conceivably winning anything...
mircea_popescu: the intimation that losing it means you've "grown up" is particularly pernicious. you don't "grow up" by going bald. you just grow old, is all.
mircea_popescu: generally this "why can't we all get along, you don't really HAVE to hold your legs crossed like that in the subway, not REALLY, do you" bullshit readily irritates me.
mircea_popescu: if you're a woman you can be a cow. if you're not, there's nothing. that's it.
mircea_popescu: the only option for the non-elitist, other than feeding the worms immediately, is a life of hypocrisy. there is nothing above, beyond or outside of elitism
mircea_popescu: because he purports to misrepresent reality, and worst of all - the reality of his own fucking experience - in castrato terms. o really, "elitism is bad" ? fuck you. if you believe that, how come you're here ?
mircea_popescu: but in other news : http://66.media.tumblr.com/b834e2676b055d1c5c152b4d705a9bfc/tumblr_nmnv72XTNH1scjhrvo1_250.gif
asciilifeform: they choke ~because~ it has no crud padding
mircea_popescu: "hey, unlike everything else, at least this one doesn't have 5kb of crud prior to the interesting bit"
asciilifeform: BUT this was before the 'nsa core' was added to intel cpu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's almost a wonder these people choke on the oh-so-well written phuctor reports. considering the sort of inept bullshit floating about, you'd think they'd fall on knees and worship.
asciilifeform: it showed a quite 'amateur hour' telltale delta, given as the hypervisor can't move the wall clock ~on the fucking wall~ and you can see that it slows the box.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess this wonder'll be dissected another time. on the strenght of his report, i dun feel inclined to look into the matter any.
asciilifeform: whereas healthy brain each has own theorems.
asciilifeform: because they tend to fall into sync with mass idiocies
mircea_popescu: never to the same.
asciilifeform: y'know, there is > 1 way to rot brain
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder the 2nd para doesn't start with "it's a cold muscovite october and the snow crackles under the steps..." or somesuch shit.
mircea_popescu: must've, the brainrot is specifically symptomatic.
mircea_popescu: so then not byte-identical
mircea_popescu: что платы из Китая содержат дополнительные программные модули, прошитые в биосе, а стандартные программы анализа эти модули не увидели." so does it or doesn't it coincide to the byte ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: danielpbarron: maybe mention the znort guy by name in the qntra piece, dude's wot'd after all
mircea_popescu: he's gonna release u-psilon the dating app or something
mircea_popescu: are you going to be the hacker formerly known as j-dawg ?
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 08:31 Vexual: there you go caz, big fat hares t whever punk is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, to this day the nebulously defined "community" around warez standard has a) not moved away from rar ; b) not allowed unicode in names.
j-dawg: but anyone can make the genesis, no?
phf: of course producing genesis from original v.pl and then using mod6's vpatch will give you a proper chain
phf: j-dawg: right, i think that's the one that's missing genesis though. so it's sort of a hybrid, you need original v.pl and then you press with a vpatch. i don't think that's the right way
j-dawg: oh now i see he actually did http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000178.html
asciilifeform: and you can feel entirely confident jumping with the parachute.
mircea_popescu: but yes, some extruding pressure must be applied to get people to use the proper tool
asciilifeform: j-dawg: i suspect that folks, even incl. mod6, are still cautious of firing v in anger in the field
phf: j-dawg: i think there's a general "fear" of publishing a dodgy vpatch so everyone's hedging. i think that's one of the reasons for asciilifeform's vector
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - to dragon's eyes we work as if we were there. recall - you ftp'd to site then had it read into irc ?)
phf: razor was the last one to go
mircea_popescu: not accolade, thc convinced me of the possibility of computers
mircea_popescu: The Humble Guys!
asciilifeform: who remembers the wonderful crack 'demos' !
mircea_popescu: note also that the groups were both distinct from the topsites let alone couriers, and also had their own artgroups!
phf: biggest japan pirate network was an invite only wot based around harddrive exchange, with the "if your friend's a rat, you're a rat" policy
asciilifeform: in america they called it 'sneakernet'
mircea_popescu: probably the reason copyrasts didn't get away with much over 30 years of trying. no, it wasn't reddit, no "raising awareness" did jack.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, there was at least one example of well known, functional, wot-only system online. teh scene.)
mircea_popescu: heh. i just meant the names.
asciilifeform: it cannot exist today just like the prehistoric dragonflies cannot
mircea_popescu: w99w99... check it out... soon enough all the ancient scene is going to pop back up, myth and all.
j-dawg: phf: v genesis does exist: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000153.html
asciilifeform: 'Then, in Dec 2011, Asheesh, a Debian dev particularly fond of his key ID, found a way to create a new RSA 4096 key with that ID (and a bug in GnuPG handling of duplicate keys) [2]. He highlighted the disruptive potential of that and decided not to release the code. Bummer.
asciilifeform: from other articles in same issue,
mircea_popescu: looky, he uses the same hardware you use :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh yeah, dumbass bbs people and their "nick" notions.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
phf: i think i saw mod6 vpatch's for v.pl, but afaik there's no genesis for those, etc.
phf: j-dawg: btcbase secretly tracks btcbase itself, since i'm experimenting with (load-v "foo.vpatch") type thing, but that's not public. i don't think there's a proper vtronic chain of V or rotor available, so unless i generate those myself there's nothing i can track
mircea_popescu: large part of the problem.
asciilifeform: for every mircea_popescu paying in actual dough for firstclass, there's a platoon of apparatchiks, of various usgtronic flavours, who 'expense'.
mircea_popescu: (in the above context, "her" is a genderless pronoun used to denote stupidity)
mircea_popescu: anyway. i can readily see usg womanchild losing her shit because it's the first time in her life that he encounters the implacable "sit down and shut up, worm"
mircea_popescu: somehow the very concept of economy class flight is dubious.
asciilifeform: 'They suggest that when people fly in economy class, their position in the social hierarchy becomes glaringly obvious. This fact is especially so if they have to walk through the first class section of the plane to get to their assigned space in a cramped hell.'
asciilifeform: from the dept of lulz:
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i just recently found out about the junkers ju390 in buenos aires 1945 thing.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the "community" had two years to run off with one of the more generous aff systems in history, twiddled its thumbs.
mircea_popescu: Could I become an affiliate? Not at this time, although this may change in the future. Could I become a partner? Not at this time. Can I advertise on BitBet? Not at this time, although this may change in the future.
mircea_popescu: the bank fraud where a coupla clerks reprogrammed the system to have all cent fractions added up to their account is a very typical chisel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's an underworld of hustlers and small time, nonviolent criminals, with its own cant. to chisel is to use an informational asymmetry for a small, distributed gain.
mircea_popescu: turns out the veterinarian can not actually direct his practice by the bellows of the pack animal. who knew!
mircea_popescu: keeping the "try to chisel, lose your capital" rule it seems. oh and all the scandal and "mp is a scammer" that came from that one, golly.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the admin interface as-was does not provide a ready way to cancel bets that had already closed at the whatever arbitrary timepoint. but still, database is database, what.
mircea_popescu: "While this may feel inconsistent (the proper resolution should be "CANCELED & REFUNDED"), there is a limitation in the current design of the system that prevents us from doing anything else." << this is an odd claim.
mircea_popescu: "One thing to be aware of: the bets that were cancelled because of the transition are still visible on the site and have all been resolved as "NO". " uh... ok ?
mircea_popescu: and in other Carmen the Beercunt news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/8cf392f56702d6dee3f8bd4cb58652ad/tumblr_mnegum7DcF1rhlfrbo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or on the contrary
asciilifeform: speaking of my punishment, i finally had the mega-satisfaction of resigning from $rupturefarm
mircea_popescu: people's heads, you know. their very own, private and most deserved punishment.
mircea_popescu: the REASON it bothered the dudes is that now they couldn't tell themselves that it's ok they're not running amok among the smiling she-herd, grabing all the tits, because "you can't get in there". manifestly you can, and a foreigned=loser to boot, so they can^2, and what fucking difference does it make HE doesn't go japanese-subway-porn-berserk, that's because he's a loser=foreigner, nevermind that part!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, in egypt trains (not the "expensive" stuff where you get the whole compartment and there's a gay waiter in livery to attend to your every whim, the common cattle hauling things) are also gender segregated. and we (ie, me and chet) climbed in the girl one, which amused teh women no end and really bothered the dudes.
mircea_popescu: little bit of fuck you from Mz Anatomy there.
mircea_popescu: AND if you get a hardon while needing to pee, which is why you're there, it'll be a bitch to get yourself out of it as pressure is a signal.
mircea_popescu: but i also didn't pretend i'm a woman or anything. just, you know, these sorts of rules, psshh. they're lulzy because the pretense is always one way (protect teh modesty of teh ladies, o noes, as if), whereas the actual cause is exactly opposite (dudes can't fucking piss with women there).
asciilifeform: 'North Carolina has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Justice Department to defend House Bill 2, a law that bans individuals from using public bathrooms that do not correspond with their biological sex, according to a court document.'
asciilifeform: l0l they've banned mircea_popescu !
shinohai: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/north-carolina-hb2-justice-department-deadline/ <<< Preet: Why can't everyone just shit together in the street like back home in India?
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Dans leurs regards indifférents flottait la quiétude de passions journellement assouvies ; et, à travers leurs manières douces, perçait cette brutalité particulière que communique la domination de choses à demi faciles, dans lesquelles la force s'exerce et où la vanité s'amuse, le maniement des chevaux de race et la société des femmes perdues."
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 04:00 trinque: shinohai: if you do want to try your hand at lisp, you're more than welcome to try your hand at extending the wiki usefully
mircea_popescu: the laws get ever longer, so-and-so's rule, criteria and blabla, but the solution comes no closer.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the fed is spending all the resources of pretty much everyone in finance speaking english today to try and come out with a "passible solution" to mp's problem, that they doublespeak as "market stability" and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: and well... not trivial, either.
mircea_popescu: except this requirement is in there! "provide justification".
asciilifeform: anyway gosplan does not and does not even seriously pretend to work by solving the motherfukcing equation, but instead it cuts the princesses' feet to fit the shoes when necessary.
mircea_popescu: from "liberal" to "lesswrong" and back again. the feminists wish REALLY HARD for some primitives they found to be supported by it. etc.
mircea_popescu: and most of the ustardian cults are ALSO predicated on some mystical voodoo solution to it, also.
mircea_popescu: etc. you can not in fact find a "blue chip" as the notion has been tarnished today that does anything else as its business than... that.
mircea_popescu: think for a moment, what is the nsa supposedly doing ? taking THAT EXACT db and establishing "who's a terrorist".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ALSO is the absolute matrix-mother of ALL usg-tronic "intellectual propety"
asciilifeform: seems to resolve to the 'knapsack problem.'
mircea_popescu: is that there are no real world applications that make use of it.
mircea_popescu: the only problem with lisp though
mircea_popescu: wait, the wiki is written in lisp ?!
trinque: shinohai: if you do want to try your hand at lisp, you're more than welcome to try your hand at extending the wiki usefully
trinque: this week I'll look at getting the wiki some wotauth
trinque: mod6 │ ;;later tell trinque so how can shinohai help build out wiki.deedbot.org? is there some web-code he can write? or perhaps just preparing articles? << talked with him; all he needs to do is register and can start making pages
mircea_popescu: today ? selected to be dumber than the average house cat!
mircea_popescu: yes, in 1999 there was ~no way to know wtf was on the web, and so search engine traffic was not selected for being dumber than the average lawyer.
mircea_popescu: or does it mean the best predictor of how much rain water he has in his mouth is whether it's raining ?
mircea_popescu: people are still clinging on today to this "search engine traffic is best traffic" mantra, which made sense 10 or 15 years ago, without stopping to think for a moment how the context changed.
mircea_popescu: so they go around the web clipping bits out of ever site ; and like a tgp they send a lot of traffic to paysites ; and like a tgp their traffic is mostly shit. and etc.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah. bezos is one of the very few respectable us business heads.
mircea_popescu: change.org is, by and large, obama's personal blog - except he doesn't write much and the comment section's self moderated. how is this relevant, his 8 years are up.
mircea_popescu: google had perhaps, in 2002 ; and certainly held great promise, for a decade-ish hence. but it's gone by now. they like to pretend like they know shit, but a cursory examination of search results shows the charade for what it is. they know "a lot for a rock", which is great, except who cares about rocks.
mircea_popescu: anyway. amazon has made serious, defensible gains in the important topic of warehouse management. that's worth dough.
mircea_popescu: hanbot i have nfi about etsy really, but stuff like amazon definitely has actual business power behind it. google likes to pretends it does, also. i do not believe them, and the desperation fluff pieces a la "artificial intelligence" are so transparently tailored to satisfy the investor's dream needs (for an investor that's apparently pretty stupid), they count as proof to me.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron this is what's so amusing about it - shiot the porn people had figured out 10-15-20 years ago, these schmucks are still innocent of, thoroughly.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, as you know, art projects, they're worth exactly what the [usg] rich patron says they're worth, for as long as that lasts (not usually long)
mircea_popescu: certainly no different for the various "social media" derpitudes. facebook is so exactly myspace 2.0 it bleeds. reddit somehow thinks it'll escape the fate of digg, which is histerical for anyone who's been online for longer than they've spent in school. what's digg worth today, incidentaly ? EXACTLY the same pittance they're all worth on their own.
hanbot: well, facebook, etsy, change.org, reddit, entire browser history of the avg. derp
mircea_popescu: hanbot well... gimme a list of these, what're you thinking about ?
mircea_popescu: they claim they're not a tgp, i do not believe so. that's the crux of teh matter. they in point of fact contain no actual content past some thumbnails they cropped out of other people's porn shots.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i stand by it, if the year were 2006 and twitter was a tgp, it'd be worth about 600k. which in today's money is maybe 1mn.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is what's known as the novelty penny.
mircea_popescu: ah, the history of "internet marketing" is long and interesting indeed.
mircea_popescu: then this interracted with the tgp sorting algos : you'd end up with a list of thumbnails sorted BY HOW MUCH INDIANS LIKED THEM
mircea_popescu: but skimming being what it is, people always tried to feed their stuff with shit [say, indian traffic], which'd get high "productivity" but obviously low value (as what indian is spending 30 bux online in 2003?)
mircea_popescu: and so "traffic productivity" became an issue : if your traffic productivity was > 100 (%) that meant that for every click into your thing, you had >1 click to send out, meaning the trades had to send > 1 click in, and then you could explode!
mircea_popescu: and it being a business, soon enough it became a matter of skimming the milk. getting some traffic to come in meant you got clicks to send to all the other guys you're trading with which meant they sent you theirs,
mircea_popescu: this gave rise to the concept of "traffic productivity", ie, how many clicks you get per users.
mircea_popescu: so : these tgps "traded" traffic with one another like crazy, on the idea that hey, there's a guy here with cock in hand, best sort him out to something he can get off to asap. so very much reminiscent of the egyptian shopkeepers who, if i inquired for an item they didn't have, would run off to a friend/cousin/competitor that did, then take me there and get a small cut of baksheesh.
mircea_popescu: the thing had developped to the degree someone made a thumb sorter sometime in 2002 or so, which sorted the imagaes by how clicked they were, so people could manage their tgps with less effort. as a side yielded all sorts of interesting anthropological results. for instance... hm. shit this is getting more involved than i thought.
mircea_popescu: preview galleries] as an attempt to entice "users" to sign up with paysites. large affiliate model spawned up. the idea being that whern you click on an image, you're taken somewhere - that's blind click skim.
mircea_popescu: (blind click skim, which apparently is entirely unknown to google, as per usual - jesus that shit's worthless, the answers it has you only actually need if you're retarded, and everything else it has no clue about - is this concept from the old days when internet porn still made money, but after the glory days when it made serious money. the silver age so to speak. it consisted of a bunch of people making free tgps [thumbnail
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron aha. seriously, if one sat down to figure the actual value of these social media things, they'd be surprised how well they line up with actual historical datapoints, such as "what slashdot sold for" etc.
mircea_popescu: so twitter can do what, a hundred or two of these a day, and is consequently worth maybe half a million a year, gross ? over an expense account a hundred times that ?
mircea_popescu: shit bro, that's what, half hour's work a la http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/ or about four dollars' worth, provided twitter traffic is actually as productive as blind click skim. which it probably isn't.
mircea_popescu: " The result was an onslaught of mentions so great that it occasionally caused my iPhone twatter app to crash." << perhaps apple could ~literally~ wink wink nudge nudge buy russia ; then make it crash now and again.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other lafond news, http://65.media.tumblr.com/f0086d948ed9e02fb871b542dcbe3119/tumblr_noh83hssPg1stacfgo1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 16:03 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463998 << no leaving the house!111
shinohai: If only they still sold indulgences ...
BingoBoingo: Well, if the idea made money before it is going to get recycled
mircea_popescu: but anyway : these seem fully built. not that there's anything wrong with buying little mass produced statuettes, it's how the catholic church made half its money.
mircea_popescu: next they're gonna sell these schmucks bitcoin mining kids in longhand. 95 dollar special pencil! has a bitcoin logo on it!
mircea_popescu: and in other news, holy shit check out teh scam of teh future : http://infinitythegame.com/whatis.php << why not do all the hard work of computing a rpg BY HAND! and pay 50 pounds per fucking figurine so you can paintakingly reconstruct all the hard work of a gfx card by hand also!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will prolly appreciate the little bayestard murder gem i've produced:D
a111: Logged on 2016-05-04 04:08 mircea_popescu: two people have an argument and one gets really angry, police can fix this. random derp gets overexcited tries to ship smoke detector shavings to ex gf's mother, police can fix this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: supposing the money buys anything at all, he is buying http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462341
mircea_popescu: (yes, smegma does have some health benefits in some circumstances that you're not likely to encounter, that nevertheless had a larger impact on history of life on earth than anything you ever encountered conceivably could.)
mircea_popescu: the notion that money buys security is not unlike the notion that smegma buys health.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the problem was solved long ago, by only parading disposable figureheads in public.
pete_dushenski: might as well jfkconvertible it then
mircea_popescu: quite exactly. there is no armor.
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'swarm' attack makes the reactive brick a laugh