asciilifeform: and everybody pretty much uses fpga clusters for actual cryptoanalysis anyway. so elaborate 'let's zap the miners' trickery is ~pointless.
asciilifeform: and sending the lot.
mircea_popescu: i've not done the actual math, per N size, but there's entire classes of messages that "could" work. you won't get enough precision until you have MANY messages.
asciilifeform: in ANY case other than otp, you have something to solve.
mircea_popescu: still. N could be something like 3kb and the scheme'd be still workable.
asciilifeform: possibly because it is the one item which actually works with no ifs, ands, buts.
asciilifeform: (we have no crypto based on provably-hard cases of provably-hard problem. we have ~some~ crypto based on lousy cases of suspected-hard problem. we have MEGATONNES of crapto based on fuck knows what fuck knows whether problem at all.)
mircea_popescu: now in principle if P, Q are the encrypted chunks, (P/Q)^(1/(N-1)) and (Q/P)^(1/(N-1)) yields the message.
asciilifeform: snake oil with 1,001 ingredients of great rarity and exquisite alchemical aesthetic is still... snake oil.
mircea_popescu: just saying, it's going to be either equations or else... "boxes" or wtf.
mircea_popescu: the idea being that in principle there should exist a set a b c so as to turn any encrypted text into ~any text you wish it to be
mircea_popescu: select a, b and c and take N=(a + sqrt(b)) / c so that N > 1 ; N < 2. for any message M, deflate, crc and split it up in two fragments a b so that neither is larger than 2/3 of M ; to encrypt calculate a^N*b ; b^N*a and pass those.
mircea_popescu: "well... all my friends are gone...i'm so lonely... listen, why don't you bring them back to me ?"
mircea_popescu: "why you're so dumb i'd be loath to separate you from humanity. here, say where you each wanna go and i'll take you there, as an act of mercy (for you)".
mircea_popescu: and the genie's all "of all the dumb fucks wandering in here ever since the injuns figured out how to half'n'half a buffalo, you're easiest the dumbest fucks"
mircea_popescu: so a coupla hours later they're fucking stranded, and about to die, when this genie shows up
mircea_popescu: except they're all old and inept and ineffectual, they take this "suv" that's really running on a qcw-50 engine and take no water and whatever.
mircea_popescu: so they keep you know, fucking around, telling each other stories from back in their respective days
mircea_popescu: there's an ex-kgb ex-plutocrat dude ; there's an ex-yale ex-vc dude ; there's this dude used to run arms for rice in somalia ; and finally there's a rapper dude.
mircea_popescu: so there's a bunch of various people gangsta as fuck at the poker room of this casino of this retirement community that had originally been built in what was a us state but meanwhile was lost in some desert.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477591 << you know the one with the loudmouths in the desert ?
jurov: on another day, from a discussion whether one should come home to moscow: ну да. Баня, шашлык, фистинг
asciilifeform: i have nfi what is interesting re the linked piece
jurov: no i have some russians on fb that do.. some stuff they dredge up is so funny
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'Blackburn's lawsuit accuses Oracle management of pushing her to "fit square data into round holes" to make Oracle's cloud services' results look better. She alleges that her bosses instructed her to add millions of dollars of accruals for expected business "with no concrete or foreseeable billing to support the numbers."'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'This will create a real full node in your browser: your browser will connect to the p2p network and do all of the block verification/serving.' << l0l suuuure.
trinque: Please do not abuse the ws->tcp proxy. << what could go wrong
asciilifeform: 0 in 2009. With shipping and other costs, the total was less than $75, according to court records. The printer's buyer was Gersh Zavodnik, a 54-year-old Indianapolis man known to many in the legal community as a frequent lawsuit filer who also represents himself in court. The Indiana Supreme Court said the "prolific, abusive litigant" has brought dozens of lawsuits against individuals and businesses, often asking for astronomical dam
asciilifeform: 'What the 66-year-old Massachusetts man didn't know then is that he would spend the next 6 ½ years embroiled in a complicated and confusing legal dispute in Indiana over that printer, which, according to its buyer, was broken. He would find himself liable for about $30,000 in damages. He would pay a lawyer at least $12,000 in his battle to escape the legal mess. And it all started with a piece of hardware he sold online for about $4
asciilifeform: 'Federal agents planted hidden microphones and conducted secret video surveillance at Alameda County’s Rene C. Davidson Courthouse for ten months, despite having no court warrant. The surveillance operation was part of an investigation into alleged bid rigging at foreclosed property auctions where thousands of houses and apartment buildings were sold by banks.'
jurov: I need the account name, and whether it should be transferred there automatically from now on.
gernika: jurov: ok. will be a bit. I'm currently in the process of vomiting out copious amounts of Rails code.
jurov: Yes. just pgp sign the text "I agree."
gernika: jurov: thx. I have an account on coinbr.com. Would that be the best way?
jurov: Qntra shares distributed. gernika: do you know how to get them?
asciilifeform: one obvious possibility is that he had second thoughts re pushing the tor chumpatron.
asciilifeform: ( nobody executes an asset just for the hell of it. )
asciilifeform: imho the only interesting mystery here is what it was, that was so loathesome, that even appelbaum refused to do it and had sentence of shitburial carried out.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course this is a credibility washing exercise. Why do you think they stack the coincidences so high? To build suspicion!
asciilifeform: and, what, his shithub key just 'happened' to leak, this piece was planted therein, usgarchive.org just 'happened' to cache the page right before deleted, etc. ?
asciilifeform: s better known for my abuse of other people — sexually, emotionally, and physically.'
asciilifeform: 'Hey there! My name is Jacob Appelbaum. I'm pretty famous for stealing other people's research and putting my own name on it. I also spend a lot of my time pretending to be a badass hacker, but actually I can only barely code. I enjoy using my social capital, influence, and power in order to manipulate other people into getting what I want. From all that, it's pretty clear that I'm awesome! However, in several communities, I'm perhap
BingoBoingo: That was fine with the father, he now had some good choices. Next, he turned to his younger son, who was only eight years old. The boy envied his brother for all the games he could play and all of the sports he could do so well. When asked what he would like, he made one simple request. I would like a box of Tampax Tampons. The father was shocked, What in the world do you want a box of tampons for? he demanded angrily. The po
BingoBoingo: Some China from the mines: The father sat reflecting on how much joy his two sons brought to him during the year. He decided to buy them both the present of their choice this holiday season. When he asked his older boy what he would like, the son replied, Oh boy, I would like so many things. Maybe a bicycle, or new skis, or skin diving equipment. I wish I would have them all, but any one would make me happy.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing ; my head acordions.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 21:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477486 << you just calm the fuck down and load the problem in head. if it's an actual blocking thing you just naturally stop sleeping until it's resolved ; if not, head goes on into a sub thinking about it ; which will eventually return with the results. this is how most trilema articles are written.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477560 << and if the problem is 5-10% too big for your head?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 17:10 asciilifeform: in more interesting nyooz, the tel aviv tempest folks are at it again, http://m.cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/6/202646-physical-key-extraction-attacks-on-pcs/fulltext
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477486 << you just calm the fuck down and load the problem in head. if it's an actual blocking thing you just naturally stop sleeping until it's resolved ; if not, head goes on into a sub thinking about it ; which will eventually return with the results. this is how most trilema articles are written.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: $key vtheimpaler
deedbot: diana_coman rated vtheimpaler 1 << New to Eulora.
diana_coman: $rate vtheimpaler 1 New to Eulora.
deedbot: vtheimpaler_ is not registered in WoT.
diana_coman: $rate vtheimpaler_ 1 New to Eulora.
deedbot: diana_coman has not rated vtheimpaler_.
diana_coman: $rated vtheimpaler_
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 19:08 shinohai: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/5/11861924/jacob-appelbaum-sexual-mistreatment-assault-allegations
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477534 << lel and the moron thought he'd actually collect his reward (what?) for faithfully fellating usg, censoring the docs
shinohai: One of the tor project developers.
shinohai: http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/5/11861924/jacob-appelbaum-sexual-mistreatment-assault-allegations
asciilifeform: and yes, who is not with us - is either against us, or furniture. this is elementary.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-12 17:13 asciilifeform: 'Unlike BitCoin or cash payments, Taler ensures that governments can easily track their citizen's income and thus collect sales, value-added or income taxes. Taler is thus a currency for the mainstream economy, and not the black market.'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-12 17:11 asciilifeform: in other news, http://taler.net << the usg-approved, built-in-tax-collector-and-stoolie altcoin is finally rolled out.
ben_vulpes: "or from 30cm away through a plain mobile phone placed next to the computer" ahaha airgap amirite
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: some java codegen thinger the taler guy wrote a while ago
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 05:39 mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ << files here are being updated four times per hour.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477259 << the node links all 404 << ah, thanks forgot that i changed the file name
ben_vulpes: " The Runabout uses reflection to find visit methods. But instead of invoking the visit methods with reflection, the Runabout uses dynamic code generation to create code at run-time that will invoke the appropriate visit method." grothoff is just full of good ideas
asciilifeform: in more interesting nyooz, the tel aviv tempest folks are at it again, http://m.cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/6/202646-physical-key-extraction-attacks-on-pcs/fulltext
asciilifeform: srsly the sheer lunacy baked into presuming that anyone needs or wants anything of the kind.
asciilifeform: es taxes to be withheld by the state while providing anonymity for Customers.'
asciilifeform: 'We are building an anonymous, taxable payment system using modern cryptography. Customers will use traditional money transfers to send money to a digital Exchange and in return receive (anonymized) digital cash. Customers can use this digital cash to anonymously pay Merchants. Merchants can redeem the digital cash for traditional money at the digital Exchange. As Merchants are not anonymous, they can be taxed, enabling income or sal
asciilifeform: (mead - inventor of GaAs FET and buncha other useful things)
asciilifeform: he laser was possible. When Townes showed them one in operation, they retreated artfully.'
asciilifeform: every CD player and long distance telephone connection, lasers today are manufactured by the billions. At the heart of laser action is perfect alignment of the crests and troughs of myriad waves of light. Their location and momentum must be theoretically knowable. But this violates the holiest canon of Copenhagen theory: Heisenberg Uncertainty. Bohr and Von Neumann proved to be true believers in Heisenberg's rule. Both denied that t
asciilifeform: 'Central to Mead's rescue project are a series of discoveries inconsistent with the prevailing conceptions of quantum mechanics. One was the laser. As late as 1956, Bohr and Von Neumann, the paragons of quantum theory, arrived at the Columbia laboratories of Charles Townes, who was in the process of describing his invention. With the transistor, the laser is one of the most important inventions of the twentieth century. Designed into
asciilifeform: in other non-nyooz,
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov i recently dug up your oldie, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html , and had a thought: did we ever investigate why, e.g., 0.8+, doesn't leak ?
mircea_popescu: there's much better solutions to this problem.
asciilifeform: it isn't the 5 minutes, but 'how far you can push the tachometer arrow in the absolute'
mircea_popescu: not that they're not getting enough done in 5 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and the principal problem of exceptional people is that they have trouble keeping balance.
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : the most stimulants can do for you is stimulate ; but on the long term they still debalance.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-25 03:08 asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
asciilifeform not mega-expert on dopes but is aware that certain types bring about excitability and amplify existing inclinations; others - torpor, lethargy, and a sort of living death
mircea_popescu: there also isn't such a thing.
asciilifeform: observe how nobody's about to legalize the performance dopes.
asciilifeform: seems to go pretty well with the 'dope'em up to reduce barn repair cost' program
mircea_popescu: and finance sprawling suspended gardens of the future where ecofeminist tribes will raise the blabla.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for trilema, people'd still derp about how bitcoin is here to save the geeks and the poor.
mircea_popescu: hence all the vomit about imaginary links between "cypherpunks" and bitcoin. and so on.
mircea_popescu: people have this capacity to imagine what's going on in their head is most important, and everything happening outside a sort of minor companion point.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm sure there were people in america who believed the spanish showing up to be a good thing.
asciilifeform: i was referring to the 'we are small and weak and please don't rape us gnomecoin folk' types.
asciilifeform: everything starts somewhere. but as observer i am more interested in whether it has wheels to begin with.
asciilifeform: rather than on account of mechanism.
asciilifeform: they gave distinct impression of labouring under a notion that 'our thing will be different because we can keep the Bad People out by being Modest'
mircea_popescu: at least that's how i saw it ; "i ~~~just want to~~~ work on these technical problems, and will ignore/hallucinate/otherwise cope with the political implications"
mircea_popescu: technically i suppose the word would be emotional debt.
mircea_popescu: well... mno ; they're not bad people, just, married to a context.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein was doing something or the other (even more modestly) with some other coin, wood-something.
asciilifeform: and the proponents - in denial.
asciilifeform: the 'bitcoin but no public record of movement' thing is theoretically appealing but the math was defective.
mircea_popescu: technology that works by itself and solves their problems, that sorta stuff.
mircea_popescu: they're the same people who think islam means they get a nice wife courtesy of allah, just like that.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear it's heresy in any sense ; but the core of web-shannonizers is always the same.
mircea_popescu: it's like the derps got kicked out of bitcoin, seamlessly moved to whatever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the best part of that article is random derp frothing about how "monero'd have made it impossible for egypt to be a shithole"
mircea_popescu: well, pick different abstractions i guess, because the only response stavka has for "we don't have adequate tools" is coming down a gun barrel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my contention is not that it is impossible to write proggy that behaves sanely under unix when catches SIGABRT or whatnot, but that the effort required to do so and the verbosity of the resulting code is beyond most folk.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://themerkle.com/egyptian-dentist-apprehended-in-bitcoin-sting-operation-in-cairo << qntra ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't the case ; and that it isn't the case is proof archsufficient it knows EXACTLY what's what and OPTS to not do what i tell it to.
asciilifeform: the items in question were entangled.
asciilifeform: see again the mempool example.
mircea_popescu: if it dun feel like doing what you want, "it has nfi" ; otherwise, if there's a virus or something, it knows them like its own tits.
mircea_popescu: it's bullshit. of course the machine has fi. just... it likes to ambiguously pretend it does or doesn't, like a lazy bitch.
asciilifeform: where, e.g., bignums dun exist, only big puddles of ??? that the machine has nfi re the purpose of, etc
asciilifeform: the basic plague of c machine is that forces computation into semantic soup.
mircea_popescu: try the experiment : open temp-mail.org in a browser let it sit for a day, then profile it.
asciilifeform: the medium has a will of its own.
mircea_popescu: there's ~no reason you couldn't allocate memory properly, c or no c.
mircea_popescu: DONT LOOK AT ME! I'm not the one who came up with that bright idea.
mircea_popescu: there's no difference re "wholly dead procedure".
asciilifeform: the result is ~certain to be barf.
mircea_popescu: that may be, but there's still absolutely no reason it can't IMMEDIATELY RETURN WHATEVER CURRENT PROCEDURE ITS IN
mircea_popescu: drop them all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do you do with the progressing system calls?
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the big fucking whoop. when caught sigabort, return(6) or w/e.
mircea_popescu: ftr, since "micro atx", no, not the power switch.
asciilifeform: where there is no such thing as clean aborts even if author wanted this.
mircea_popescu: no. i do not want to kill the program. i want to force it to drop what it's doing and pay attention.
mircea_popescu: i want what used to be signal 6, ABRT ; indicating to the receiving item to immediately drop whatever subroutine is doing and continue above.
mircea_popescu: in other news, kill is fucking useless.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, it's the optimal use for "his idea" such as it was.
asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder if i'm the only guy who ever had one blog.
asciilifeform: the release was quasi-forced, i found where he kept it and linked publicly (it was not well-hidden)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo will be stimulated to learn that there is some sort of comic book convention going in washington and i saw 'land whales' last night in a train, headed from it to dinner
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've seen them, they simply aren't to be met with regularly anywhere i've been
BingoBoingo thought asciilifeform had not seen nor believed in them. Or were they in Chiraq the other week?
asciilifeform: having seen in real life the circa freaks in question, i find it plain as daylight that they cannot reach own arse
BingoBoingo: Who knows how many fat people were helped in this version of legend because they moved up from not wiping at all thanks to stick discovery!
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe the item exists because you were bored one day ; and people couldn't distinguish between "social media signal" and actual need.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but that's nothing ; the case is still fresh in my mind when BingoBoingo made up some stupid shit about how a guy was so fat he used a stick to wipe his ass ; and other perverse defecation tales - which then became the ACCEPTED STANDARD of "what fat people do" according to "everyone" on social media. << ty, but that is credit for TOO much
asciilifeform: the sumo men are well documented to use apprentice fighters as arse wipers.
mircea_popescu: but that aside, as many people use a stick to wipe their own ass as died of fan-mediated asphyxia.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 13:42 mircea_popescu: and in your daily "i'm doing research on social media and it ends up moving the market" news, http://www.collarspace.com/details.asp?v=2416633&bhcp=1
asciilifeform: the stick exists
mircea_popescu: but that's nothing ; the case is still fresh in my mind when BingoBoingo made up some stupid shit about how a guy was so fat he used a stick to wipe his ass ; and other perverse defecation tales - which then became the ACCEPTED STANDARD of "what fat people do" according to "everyone" on social media.
mircea_popescu: there's an ancient ro joke/sf story whereby people moved into the past "limitedly" for "research purposes", and ended up discovering that most everyone there is... them, with the actual locals a tiny minority.
asciilifeform: e.g., the eastern folk are lightyearz ahead in the art of people-packin' as contemplated in mircea_popescu's 'female herd' articles
mircea_popescu: and in your daily "i'm doing research on social media and it ends up moving the market" news, http://www.collarspace.com/details.asp?v=2416633&bhcp=1
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : de niro's so obsexed with pacino, he had to have his very own scent of a woman (dirty granpa). you should see this thing. they manage to be so weird they spend half the movie apologizing, man-to-man-talking and etc for his eventual fucking (sort-of) this teenaged slut.
asciilifeform: meant the very specific castrated mandarin / ~illiterate peasant mass thing.
mircea_popescu: so far in any case it seems that the chinese are the people and the usians the insectoids.
asciilifeform: plenty of mas futuro. the insectoid way of organizing is - effective. sadly.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't even going there.
mircea_popescu: oh god the writing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is a winner. the euro fictions ~don't~ really compile in cn.
asciilifeform: also iirc it has pathologically liberal word order. hence the autotranslator soup appearing above.
asciilifeform: quite possible one has to reformat own head entirely to deal in it. becoming somewhat martian himself in the process.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 05:39 mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ << files here are being updated four times per hour.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-05#1477259 << the node links all 404
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ << files here are being updated four times per hour.
mod6: will continue testing a bit tomorrow, and if all is well, may deploy. the log part still needs a few tweaks, but main stuff is complete.
mod6: alright, so now (still in test) but when someone [adds/edits/removes] a ticket via tb0t, those changes are propagated to the live website along with generated graphs.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you still have a bunch of old l0gz links on your www, because didn't massage the 'log1.bitcoin-assets....' cases.
asciilifeform: try flipping some other bit and uploading. (anybody bored?)
asciilifeform: mutant simply registered as 'yet another key for this name'.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:50 mircea_popescu: the whole "we spontaneously change keys for no reason" thing is as ridiculous as it always was.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 02:49 mircea_popescu: nope. i have nfi how they could possibly "bitrot" seeing how the sks updates are really supposed to pass hashes of files too
mircea_popescu: the whole "we spontaneously change keys for no reason" thing is as ridiculous as it always was.
mircea_popescu: nope. i have nfi how they could possibly "bitrot" seeing how the sks updates are really supposed to pass hashes of files too
asciilifeform: folks would quit and run on batteries with the understanding that grim reaper would come before dough runs out
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, is why it's so hard to get men to stop smoking. women - easy enough, show them sufficient pictures of children fucked by alligators or whatnot. men... dun care.)
asciilifeform: why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck gives a shit.
asciilifeform: that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flag and loyalty-parades ... Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and as a
asciilifeform: '[Hitler] has grasped the falsity of the hedonistic attitude to life. Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all “progressive” thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security, and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "materialism", be it whichever socialist flavour is so lulzy. dude, srsly, "you've solved the problems of people" ? gee whiz, i wonder why they can't be arsed to pick up your calls.
asciilifeform: the greatz understood this.
mircea_popescu: well, the world's in general an imposition.
asciilifeform: sorta goes with the eastern thing where 'tru guru!111 would never stoop to speaking with unclean derpz'
mircea_popescu: the only true hero is solipsist. that much is sterling.
asciilifeform: so the only true hero is solipsist, who chews in wholly uncorrelated direction with anybody else's ?
mircea_popescu: there's this moment of manhood for homer simpson when marge bakes a pie and he says "i'm just going to chew this way, no pies better be getting in my way".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu proffers the nagan, newz at 11
mircea_popescu: there isn't an algo. not something to use, or w/e. the results aren't within your hands.
asciilifeform: but for the remaining standing one to refer to it as an algo that can be picked up and used by somebody, is rather odd.
mircea_popescu: what's the relation ?
asciilifeform: a victorious mircea_popescu is made up of 10,001 young corpses where they went to the galleys and nobody cares.
asciilifeform: finally we get to the magic algo, no ?
mircea_popescu: liberal profession, just like any other.
asciilifeform: what's the operative, as mircea_popescu would ask, difference ?
mircea_popescu: the peddler is perfectly respectable.
asciilifeform: no? isn't it 'womanly cowardice', earning motherfucking bread, doing a job ?
asciilifeform: what negotiating. father was a peddler, son - peddler.
asciilifeform: 'right half of bell curve' or the like.
mircea_popescu: where do they find dudes to vouch for everything that ever crawls out from between a woman's legs is the mystery of all time.
mircea_popescu: which come to think about... i dunno where they find these. i knew maybe half dozen 13yo i'd have vouched for, and that's already pushing it.
asciilifeform: but vouched conditionally, had to jump through the burning ring
asciilifeform: in front of the wot^H^H^Hshtetl
asciilifeform: y'know - from the sheepskin.
mircea_popescu: which is what stuff like bar mitzvah etc was supposed to be in the first place.
asciilifeform: i thought they still had some in afghan or wherever.
mircea_popescu: i can't say i particularly care either way.
asciilifeform: imho most folks if they were thinking straight would have eaten nagan long ago.
asciilifeform: and at any rate mircea_popescu should thank beelzebub for this, because otherwise he'd be buried under pile of corpses.
mircea_popescu: there's a very fucking good reason she changes her name and wears her hair as long as captor ordains. it's the fucking design, she gets captured and re-socialized in captor's castle.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would a man chose to live as a woman over dying as a man.
asciilifeform: (then or now)
asciilifeform: is there a 3rd jar i'm missing ?
asciilifeform: so if that ain't you, young cn fella with aspirations, study the bloody poems and deposit balls in this here jar.
asciilifeform: the war genius already knows who he is.
asciilifeform: let's revisit spandrell's mandarins. you could take mandarin exam, or sell salt on the black market and be 13333333337 w4rl0rd
mircea_popescu has said the same thing in many languages to date.
asciilifeform: this is funny today, because there is no 'bright fyoootoor of communism' and it is obvious to a sea slug
mircea_popescu: it's never you know, i'm the lord of aquitanie, here lost in fucking coventry and i want to go back home.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i gotta take college debt on, i'm in a weak negotiating position. otherwise i don't get to my bright fucking future".
mircea_popescu: the irony of all time being that all these schmucks running around enacting this damsel in distress fantasy "oh noes i'm in a WEAK NEGOTIATING POSITION" are all working class stiffs with absolutely nothing to look for anyway, and that in the best case.