ben_vulpes: then "omg tensions were so high yesterday i don't want to come in"
ben_vulpes: show up and start in with the unfounded ideas.
ben_vulpes: the rest have never had the autonomy over any scope to know how much better life is under a good master.
ben_vulpes: and others with aspirations of relevance and no historical view
asciilifeform: they will be bought and operated.
asciilifeform: not like the gawktrons will vanish.
ben_vulpes: but the kill -- fresh
ben_vulpes: yes the vendetta is old
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ben_vulpes: the bankrupting part is new to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform zee germanz had a small unit built at some point. then they tore it down because usg lobby for fucking them over ; ended up paying ~half a dollar per kW produced in "dismantling" costs.
mircea_popescu: usually the traincar-boxed gensets are 1500-2000-2500 kw sorta deals.
asciilifeform: i have nfi if these were actually sold or only eternally threatened to market.
asciilifeform: keep in the cellar.
asciilifeform: iirc it is now all the rage in jp.
asciilifeform: many years ago, i was working in uni. of md., in the same building as one of the 'root dns' boxes. we had no fewer than 4 stationary diesels, of various makes. they worked.
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, small nuclear plants are actually a lot safer than the large ones also.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're talking traincar sized gensets, you're prolly better off building a small nuclear plant anyway.
asciilifeform: the most comical situation was of course in usgland. i was working at an army base, and there were the most titanically impressive generators i've ever seen, each easily the size of a train car, diesel cisterns two stories high, etc. BUT we still lost power in the lab. because somehow it wasn't connected to it.
asciilifeform: and most large commercial buildings have these, although, strangely, not connected to the tenants' wiring ! - only lights and lifts.
mircea_popescu: if you're about to drop 1mn on a piece of property, the notion that you wouldn't drop a few tens of k's on actually having power for it is outright idiotic.
mircea_popescu: these, it should be pointed out, are not THAT expensive. which is the important item here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, off top of head 400 kw generator eats ~28.5 gal/hr full load and ~15 half load ; 250 kw eats 18 and about 10. it degrades from there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pictured gensets are what most folks have where i live.
mircea_popescu: but to resolve your doubts asciilifeform : http://bestratedgenerators.com/most-fuel-efficient-portable-generator/ .7kW * 14 hrs = just about 10kw to the gallon. which is ok considering the tiny size.
asciilifeform: so long as we're speaking of a house, rather than datacentre or factory
asciilifeform: and gives you time to revv up the motor.
mircea_popescu: no point in solving half-problems, especially when the shit's not even expensive.
mircea_popescu: eh, you want the whole thing. converter ; battery and generator.
asciilifeform: anyway petrol generator is 'sexy', vrooom, vroom, but actual practice is that brown-outs, spikes, <30sec blackouts, are the real itch re computer user.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh it's not the 70s anymore!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well... they run ~50% efficiency, so you can get consumption from power rating pretty much. so you should expect about 1galon/hour drawn for every ~16kW of installed power. roughly speaking.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu would be quite surprised what the % accuracy on sine coming out of mechanical genset is.
davout: aha, so in other words tmsr is making its own docker
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes note that there's a lot of space between 100kw and 1mw.
mircea_popescu: davout because he's not supposed to do emulation on the worker. if your kernel runs javascript, you expose reals. if your kernel runs balanced ternary, you exposed balanced ternary.
ben_vulpes: what is really at issue here is one's connectivity to the bitcoin network. so yes, power. also, shortwave.
ben_vulpes: either provision for your "megawatt standard lifestyle" or...scramble around unplugging things to extend the tiny window before your node goes offline completely.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 16:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480158 << this makes no sense. who starts building from the interface ?
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480176 <<< how could one build a basic calculator proggy without at least the rough interface specification of: "arithmetic expression goes in, scalar result comes out"?
mircea_popescu: yeah but you want the bridge to be wide enough. 1kw is not practically useful - inductive charge for an average ac unit for instance easily beats 5kw
mircea_popescu: (doesn't have to come with the trailer, of course. you'll need a battery rack about the same size and a serious converter, ie, 100kW as opposed to 1050kW)
mircea_popescu: reading the specs of that ds1500b-rm opti-ups thing... output voltage regulation +/- 2% ?! srsly, that noisy ?
ben_vulpes: "what is the value of owning source code for a token system that everyone else must have a copy of in order to play?"
mircea_popescu: will also have the great benefit of c) clip his wings a shade.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah i mean.. yeah. it's almost as if: if bitcoin valuation of ip returns > 0, then bitcoin failed in terms of one of its design principles, or something
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 15:55 davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480025 <<< because the alternative is accepting arbitrary executables
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480158 << this makes no sense. who starts building from the interface ?
mircea_popescu: ftr : not only it's impossible to have an "ip valuation of bitcoin", but moreover the bitcoin valuation of ip returns 0.
asciilifeform: 'Should a block strictly larger than 1Mb get mined, betting will close immediately and all bets received after the event (where "received" means "bet transaction gets one confirmation on the bitcoin network") will be refunded, minus BitBet's fee.' << aaaaand there went mircea_popescu's 'anti-chiseling' thing. gone, just like that.
asciilifeform: let's start with 'If a bitcoin block strictly larger than 1000000 bytes (1 MB) gets mined on the main chain and subsequently receives more than 100 confirmations before December 31st 2016 at midnight GMT included, this bet resolves as "Yes".'
asciilifeform: ^ how the fuck does this even make sense as written ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom, https://bitbet.us/bet/1276/bitcoin-block-larger-than-1mb-to-be-mined
trinque: asciilifeform: maybe you can find the thread for Framedragger regarding whether certain things (bitcoin, V) can have "valuation"
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480025 <<< because the alternative is accepting arbitrary executables
Framedragger: i detest these glossy landing page designs. then again, maybe a stability point has been reached on the web, in the sense of content-less websites now employing a content-less form
Framedragger: yeah it's probably bull; interesting to think in terms of IP though, whether there's a valuation methodology possible
asciilifeform: (my rack-mount thing also, in fact, stands on floor. in one of those '90s-era 'full tower pedestals' with the ratcheting clamp)
mircea_popescu: basically. i mean, that's the point right ? for people to pick up tickets and push through
mod6: because goal with this is not just to flow in to one direction, the goal is to recurse and solve from the leaves to root.
mod6: yeah, i see how that, especially in this case as opposed to V does warp the mind a bit.
mod6: just not sure if anyone else will see it that way. but i guess that doesn't quite matter either.
mircea_popescu: my only thing was with the arrows, because currently they go against the flow of entropy.
mod6: 2 & 7 are blockers to the completion of 8
mod6: so... all of these obnoxious mental gymnastics are because i didn't want to use the term "blocker"
Framedragger remembers writing a shitty "back-connect" backdoor, coupling it with keylogger and a shitty "Hacker Defender" (sic) rootkit which hides the former two, and installing the bundle onto school PCs running the latest AV...
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm sure you've had good fun with them :)
mod6: boy. i think that the logic might be correct in there -- but boy oh boy is "ANTECEDENT(s)" a bad label.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: undocumented windows NT features or sth like that? there was a book...
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #trilema 10 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> phf: turning the logs into genius.com?
asciilifeform: ;;seen thestringpuller
Framedragger: (it's a long post but a nice read for one of them rainy days)
Framedragger: but there's also this [one sec]
Framedragger: i do remember investigating how a few of them ring 0 windows rootkits work, thereby sort of delving into NT internals... it's a world unto itself. and it's full of objects!!! ah, childhood :D
mircea_popescu: what rock have you been living under! teh jwz chorus won all the wars, what.
Framedragger: muh idol is bill gatez he the great hack3r
mircea_popescu: there's been 25 years of "pubic opinion" and "internet community" PROGRESS since then!
mircea_popescu: you're like from the 90s or something!
Framedragger: but yeah of course fuck them, can't argue with that
asciilifeform: year after that, it uploads this log on daily basis (along with the keystroke logs we already know to exist starting in win8) to microshit. etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger right ? kinda how they do shit.
asciilifeform: the way it works,
Framedragger: ah, right, i see why you'd think that. yeah so something of the kind, partially. ugh M$
mircea_popescu: since when are timestamps the way to approach this btw ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger carroll dude is blathering about how it works if "customer also supplies symbol info"
mircea_popescu: "users should add notelemetry.obj to their linker command line" lol k.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it calls an undocumented api thing that can do whatever the fuck microshit wants it to do on next update.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: etw seems to be a more generic framework than that, but can't be bothered to look too deeply. something like that anyway
asciilifeform: like the 'unique id' crapolade microshit stuff into everything from vs exe to word docs.
mircea_popescu: but the thing itself is... a stack trace. right ?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: somebody gotta do the salvage work.
mod6: so im gonna dig into that a bit today, and see what needs to change if anything -- the structure shouldn't change too much, just a lot of labeling to make it more .... intuitive.
mod6: the gpg part isn't a prob or whatever.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 aww, you didn't choke on the submit part did you ? just gpg --encrypt --armor -r bingo and put the text into dpaste or wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com << ah, no. my writing isn't good. so lol, it's difficult for me.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 14:54 asciilifeform: the 'let's talk plaintext to randos' thing was great while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: in the same vein https://twitter.com/elena_morali note the "Per info e serate:Katia Rimmaudo +39 366 3542452 email: katia.rimmaudo@gmail.com" part.
asciilifeform: and incidentally, 'the passive taps are being converted to active filtering nodes' >>> <<< http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-17#1345736 etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-25 20:46 mircea_popescu: the system's been around for decades ; i fucked a bunch in my day. recently they tried to close the thing down, arrested gals by the pail, but... from what i hear it didn't take.
mircea_popescu: well, the martians are.
asciilifeform: empire is made of cocksucking satrapies who wouldn't point-encrypt if martians gave them the gear for free.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suddenly the value of point to point encrypted traffic at the box level becomes apparent ?
mircea_popescu: in other non-news, http://www.ilsecoloxix.it/rf/Image-lowres_Multimedia/IlSecoloXIXWEB/magazine/gossip/foto/2016/02/25/yvonne_splashnews-H160225193316.jpg
asciilifeform: ring nodes, enabling traffic disruption and injection. This means that all the talk about legal instruments, NSLs etc. is immaterial, and that Tor traffic is practically vulnerable.'
asciilifeform: 'Around 800 backbone fiber connections in the continental US (95+% of the backbone) have been tapped for data collection. Some of the telcos are aware of this, but are silently cooperating by not implementing point-to-point bulk traffic encryption. There is an extensive ghost network that connects these nodes, enabling traffic analysis and tracing in near-real time. As of recently, the passive taps are being converted to active filte
asciilifeform: in other lulz:
asciilifeform: <jejb@kernel.org>; << l0lllz. such is bitrot, we all knew, high-energy photons are attracted by the toe fungus of kernel devs; physics nobel at 11.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: in other words i don't get how a worker could be made if the interface it should honor isn't defined beforehand
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479673 <<< it does, however when i look at http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html it seems to me #7 should be an antecedent of 3,4,5,6 but not the other way around
mircea_popescu: mod6 aww, you didn't choke on the submit part did you ? just gpg --encrypt --armor -r bingo and put the text into dpaste or wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com
BingoBoingo: mod6: on trilema and the drinking record
mod6: OK, so then what.
mod6: do you want me to put in the class attributes?
BingoBoingo: You use the limited necessary set of html markup to accomplish the task <b> <i> <a> <blockquote> etc
BingoBoingo: mod6: fixed, just need the deedbot wiki url
mircea_popescu: yet another avenue to bleed the state and it's supporters (fucktarded parents with utility bills).
mircea_popescu: his government pays an extra 40 bux a month ; his parents pay an extra 30 bux a month (not counting amortisation for hardware) and he gets 15 dollars a month out of maybe 25 to 50 dollars' worth of monthly utility delivered to the world.
asciilifeform: would go well with keccakcoin or other cpu miner's paradise, also.
mircea_popescu: but in general, i fully expect this to work in the sense that random kid makes money to play everquest or w/e the fuck he plays through the avenue of renting the box.
mircea_popescu: such as, sell them out for number crunching ; but not for pinging. or w/e.
asciilifeform: one very simple solution is to recruit new nodes faster than whoever can ruin them.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. anyway, if your windows boxes are owned through the tenuous interface of whatever random chump-trojan, perhaps not allow a number of operations you feel you're vulnerable to.
mircea_popescu: i know it's not an ~insurmountable~ problem, in the context and per the definitions relevant.
asciilifeform: there is no 'a'. not in botnet.
mircea_popescu: wtf is so hard about this. so random twerp likes to have b and pretend it's a. good for him, random twerps like to lie in their accounting ever since they were invented. this is what "bitcoin investments" on the forum were all about throughout. so ?
asciilifeform: if you infected it, others could have also.
mircea_popescu: a) if your control on the box is strong, then your control on the box is strong. this means you fix the problem ; b) if your control on the box is weak, this means your control on the box is weak. this means you understand you can lose it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fine, make it six people. how do you find the traitor (or simple incompetent who let his nodes get hijacked by third party)
mircea_popescu: phf we're playing this alf invented game where he picks an item and ignores all the rest.
mircea_popescu: you rent THE SAME item to 1k diff folks ?
asciilifeform: strictly in light of 'client can hose the boxes' which applies to chukcha and mircea_popescu alike.
mircea_popescu: this is the borg. cube lands and starts sucking the earth from under their feet. no shits given, at all, much like i don't look for anthill oppinions before during or after real estate development.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: discussed kiddiez because currently that is what lives there. like chukcha, in the north. ~nobody else there.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:15 phf: but you can easily upgrade open access service to a custom service and charge for the extra work too. if you want your ads injected on all machines, you don't get to put own exe, needs to spec out the problem and give it to botnet owner to develop. also means that particularly losery owners will rapidly transfer their botnets to smarter crowd
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:09 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479838 << i was speaking of how most folks even get their proggy on the infected boxes in the first place
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479839 << really, who the everloving shit cares about the needs, hopes and aspirations of 19yo script kiddies. fuck 'em. maybe if they have a sister and she's slutty i might be interested.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:46 asciilifeform: you rent out yer chumpnet, and some bozo installs, e.g., 'cryptolocker', on all the nodes.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479805 << doesn't have to be botnet. for one thing, once this is ready i'll be running it on dedi boxes. for another thing, you make your own administrative policies. sell for whatever price you want whatever you want to sell.
asciilifeform: otherwise if it dun need to actually work, we can proclaim that we already have it!11111
mircea_popescu: so then what exactly was lost.
asciilifeform: ~HOW~ do you intend to attribute the defection?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: scales but note how wot dun keep anyone from being stabbed, we have other tools for that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "little different" is essentially saying "the wot is a nice toy but it'll never scale".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact remains you can not, at this present time, distinguish your own node on random box from faux node planted there.
mircea_popescu: really, these objections belong pre 2010.
mircea_popescu: a "reasonable competent" whatever could... what, bother deedbot. hurr durr.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:29 asciilifeform: is that a reasonably competent griefer can rent the chumpnet and ~clean it~
asciilifeform: there is a class of easy verifiables
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:27 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479680 << not that, either. because how do you VERIFY ?????
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:27 asciilifeform: ddos only exists for the rest of us.
asciilifeform: students of subj ought to begin there.
asciilifeform: anyway afaik state of the art re dht remains edonkey.
mircea_popescu: other than the numerous deliberate sabotages, tor fails in a game theoretic manner - no incentive to participate.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:23 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479676 << i suspect that there are not half a million machines with decent bandwidth and disk.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479809 << factually, there's about a billion and a half of them.
mircea_popescu: "apparently an intern installed uci. it's the third time this week."
mircea_popescu: they must be ~unable to retain control over any box.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is good, but ~not enough. it's not enough for enemy to be unable to retain the salaried interest of dea thugs.
mircea_popescu: ALL computers. ie, the computer attached to the 3d printer as much as to the atm at the bank as much as anything else.
mircea_popescu: never mind the chicken perspective. this commoditizes computers.
asciilifeform: didn't we do the 1024 chickens thing?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:22 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479673 << i distinctly recall mircea_popescu outlining this wish list a while back. but must confess that i suspect cpu cycle rental - even PINCHED cycles from OTHER PEOPLE, in botnet - to be a -ev proposition. strange, but there it is.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479805 << doesn't have to be botnet. for one thing, once this is ready i'll be running it on dedi boxes. for another thing, you make your own administrative policies. sell for whatever price you want whatever you want to sell.
phf: but then i'm just talking out of my ass, i've been out of that field for a long time. i just suspect that the scenario you describe is already pretty common and is probably part of разборки
phf: but you can easily upgrade open access service to a custom service and charge for the extra work too. if you want your ads injected on all machines, you don't get to put own exe, needs to spec out the problem and give it to botnet owner to develop. also means that particularly losery owners will rapidly transfer their botnets to smarter crowd
phf: i've been burned by fellow scriptkiddies back in my scriptkiddy days enough times to not trust anyone with that sort of open access. i thought that would be the case with others. perhaps there's a distinction between "us" and "johns" happening here. if the person is paying for botnet access, is probably mark to begin with
asciilifeform: this model is traditional but plays poorly with, e.g., cryptolockers, as these often result in hosed and reformatted box
asciilifeform: typically they pay 'per install'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479838 << i was speaking of how most folks even get their proggy on the infected boxes in the first place
mod6: BingoBoingo you may want to update the 'about' page on qntra, buncha #bitcoin-assets links and such.
asciilifeform: you rent out yer chumpnet, and some bozo installs, e.g., 'cryptolocker', on all the nodes.
asciilifeform: dun wurk either.
asciilifeform: it is ~precisely~ the 'rent out the space inside your nose!' contemplated in one of mircea_popescu's articles.
asciilifeform: the only reason it does not happen more often with garden-variety botnets is that competent folk are few and far between and no one in particular is a sufficiently-appealing target.
asciilifeform: and there cannot even in principle be an answer to this.
asciilifeform: or at least perma-hose the boxen.
asciilifeform: is that a reasonably competent griefer can rent the chumpnet and ~clean it~
asciilifeform: it is in principle quite impossible to verify that the thing you wanted computed, was computed, unless it is very tangible input/output pair like mersenne primes or whatnot.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479680 << not that, either. because how do you VERIFY ?????
asciilifeform: ddos only exists for the rest of us.
asciilifeform: as for ddosing, usg infrastructure is ddosproof because they multi-head their dns or whatever the term was for the thing you can ONLY do with crapflare
asciilifeform: there is ~no tech, only duct tape and chewing gum.
asciilifeform: but more importantly, the software stack that gives you anything like smooth migration between rapidly born and dying machines, is NOT THERE
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479676 << i suspect that there are not half a million machines with decent bandwidth and disk.
asciilifeform: one of them things that costs more to parcel out than it is worth.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479673 << i distinctly recall mircea_popescu outlining this wish list a while back. but must confess that i suspect cpu cycle rental - even PINCHED cycles from OTHER PEOPLE, in botnet - to be a -ev proposition. strange, but there it is.
mod6: i probably could/should have all of the tickets clumped under one tree. but i need to work on the tickets and ordering etc.
asciilifeform: why should there be ocean of white
mod6: its hard because there are like a number of disconnected graphs, or hard because of mental gymnastics? i'd like to make it better, so your input helps.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 22:25 mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_ticket_graph.html
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 22:25 mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_ticket_graph.html
shinohai: Since we finished the rss thing last night, I'm already working on a new one xD
mod6: watch out or you'll start writing #!/usr/bin/perl all the time
mod6 turning people to the dark side, one at a time.
mod6: salud; now that we've got a ticketing system, we can see how much there really is to do still! haha.
mod6: Couldn't have done it without you though, thanks for all the testing help. Most sincerely.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 23:39 mod6: I feel like we've needed this tool for some time as he was only needing a way to track and graph the work required.
mod6: But I'll take a shot at it I guess as long as the proceeds can be donated to The Bitcoin Foundation.
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #trilema 6 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 40 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <mike_c> at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mircea+popescu
BingoBoingo: mod6: Well I asked the question in case you or mircea_popescu wanted to have the honor of writing up T
mod6: I feel like we've needed this tool for some time as he was only needing a way to track and graph the work required.
mod6: BingoBoingo: did you read these tickets? don't miss out on Mr. P.'s vision for TMSR~ here in the story.
mod6: and as we start to work on these features, it is meant (at least by me) that tasks and other atomic work will be children of the features.
mod6: but to me looks like everything goes the right way, and dependentcies are in the correct direction
mod6: and the same for 3, 4, 5
mod6: yah, i kinda modled it after how the tree looks for V.
BingoBoingo: So who is writing up the Qntra "T Ascendant"?
mircea_popescu: did i do them backwards ?
mircea_popescu: of course... aren't the arrows backwards ?
mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html << only 4 tickets oddly.
mod6: ah, yeah, ok. i see all of 'em came in at nearly the same time. should have handled it, but looks like it got a bit confused.
mod6: ok, yeah, i see all of those in the file. lemme see what happened when you were entering 'em. thanks for doing that, might be a weird timing issue or something, not sure.
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 1, Type: S, Subject: TMSR's own Unified Computing Interface, Antecedents: 8, Notes: The goal of TMSR as far as computing is concerned is to deploy a cheap, effectual, networked computing interface that can not be disrupted significantly under any circumstances by any adversary for whatever reason.
mircea_popescu: map the entire dns system, eavesdrop the entire internet, create your own dns, launch satellites and nukes (hey, who's to say what peripherals a given machine has, amirite ?), whatever.
trinque: I recall the last thread about this
tb0t: Project: UCI, ID: 1, Type: S, Subject: TMSR's own Unified Computing Interface, Antecedents: 8, Notes: The goal of TMSR as far as computing is concerned is to deploy a cheap, effectual, networked computing interface that can not be disrupted significantly under any circumstances by any adversary for whatever reason.
mircea_popescu: %add UCI S "TMSR's own Unified Computing Interface" "The goal of TMSR as far as computing is concerned is to deploy a cheap, effectual, networked computing interface that can not be disrupted significantly under any circumstances by any adversary for whatever reason." 8
mod6: glad you think it's a worthwhile thing Mr. P. there is so much that gets into the logs, and this will be a much easier way (hopefully) to keep track of all of the republics work or tasks, or whatever reallly.
mod6: Like this guy ^, for completion he depends on completion of many other ticket.s