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BingoBoingo: Trash build up, everyone has boils. No one can clean the waffle stomped showers.
BingoBoingo: It'll be the non-Argentina US failure mode
BingoBoingo: I can't wait for the immigrants they have now to get fat and them to stick with the no new immigrants schtick
mircea_popescu: by now "the powers that wanna-be" are getting raped at random street corners by random passers by.
BingoBoingo: Qntra'ing in a few hours after sleeping. There's still enough votes left for Diebold to happen.
mircea_popescu: i guess could be update on other one.
mircea_popescu: you know alf they did use diebolds...
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's not enough votes left to fix it.
mircea_popescu: it's just about all over, there's maybe a coupla million left to vote.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:37 Bugpowder: The gov isn’t really going to do it tho right? Non-binding…
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-24#1489224 << after "the govt" had to beg the scots to stay on hands and knees, it's unclear it actually has any mandate to do anything anyway.
mircea_popescu: not like he'd have existed if there wasn't a usg.pd around. or a usg in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:21 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu l0ltr0n1cs: http://deadgirlface.tumblr.com/post/146308969208/quoms-superluminalflower-the-orlando-police
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-24#1489184 << the gall of the asswipes is galling. really, "what we do should be on ~arbitrarily picked victim~" ? how about fucking mateen is ON the police ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-24#1489150 << shared ram is painful because the address/data lines are bottleneck
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:00 phf: this is roughly how the argument went in the connection machine book, but of course they didn't have access to large enough rams to make it shared
asciilifeform: the minarets of londonabad will still call the faithful to prayer tomorrow. and next week, aha.
trinque: I'll just shit out another dump after fixing it
trinque: thestringpuller: yeah this is fucked up; I have the original data for it all, so I'll fix tomorrow
Bugpowder: The gov isn’t really going to do it tho right? Non-binding…
Bugpowder: ITV CALLS IT: LEAVE HAS WON THE EU REFERENDUM
trinque: there's a pleasurep"
trinque: thestringpuller: that is an unperson per db
BingoBoingo: phf: Party is on pause. Can't let BTC look too much better than ether huffing, so Buttfunex has to have some butt fun
phf: but it was a very odd setting, i was hungover like crazy, stumbling around with other throngs of tourists
asciilifeform: lel pretty much like the b00kcase i'm sitting next to l0l.l
phf: they had a bunch of appel books there, mead's introduction to vlsi, a bunch of old common lisp books, 80s expert system books, etc.
asciilifeform: 'The question of possible deaths by police fire arose soon after the shootings. One survivor, Norman Casiano, 26, told ABC News that he was shot by police when he crawled out from his hiding place in the bathroom after he thought it was safe.'
phf: in any case it wasn't portland, i picked it up at a random bookstore in french quarter new orleans. between a tourist bar and a place that sold "vintage stuff" they had a bookstore with an amazing collection of random books
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu l0ltr0n1cs: http://deadgirlface.tumblr.com/post/146308969208/quoms-superluminalflower-the-orlando-police
phf: i picked up "third printing" in portland, in that big bookstore of theirs
asciilifeform: ^ his thesis
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-24#1489150 << shared ram is painful because the address/data lines are bottleneck
asciilifeform: and imho 6502 is the more elegant animal.
asciilifeform grew up with 6502 (well, 6510, commodore) rather than mircea_popescu's z80, so it is dear to him
asciilifeform: mouser co. has the chip.
phf: actually, i'm ok waiting, i think i'm going to build one of those computers on a board in the next few months just to get an idea of what connects where
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:40 phf: are there any 6502 computer designs where you have multiple of them sitting on same bus or talking to same memory
BingoBoingo: In other news corn is looking good, some field are showing visible soybeans. Been a while since honest rain befell this region.
phf: this is roughly how the argument went in the connection machine book, but of course they didn't have access to large enough rams to make it shared
phf: afaik greenarrays don't have shared state and talk through neighbors, connection machine style. i was thinking, like mp said, just have them sit on shared memory
trinque: sorta like the greenarrays thing?
phf: are there any 6502 computer designs where you have multiple of them sitting on same bus or talking to same memory
mircea_popescu: da fuck anyone knows what goes on through the bright heads that can't light bulbs of us stem unis.
asciilifeform: well presumably it was mircea_popescu who had a mole in there, hence why i asked him.
mircea_popescu: ask them! not me!
mircea_popescu: they should.
asciilifeform: they have no tame miner ??
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:19 mircea_popescu: the problem being more that, of the ~10% miners that voted, the split is about 4:1 in favour. of the rest... well... something more like the reverse.
phf: i suspect those guys wear shoes that don't fall apart after three years either
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i often wonder re the chinese toolz, do they wind the motors with aluminum wire yet ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well actual one prolly requires Ebay. The new ones are made in China since TTI bought Milwauke
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-24#1489087 << the actual one ?! i was in a 'home despot' not long ago, they had a plasticy piece of rubbish with that brand
phf: aww, poop. i thought the guy was pretty cool from his nes emulator. usually the emulator types like to bit twiddle
asciilifeform: phf: i actually printed out the src and read in hammock, and barfed: it is full of regexp
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:05 phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember)
phf: we're not there yet, but damn close
mircea_popescu: the problem being more that, of the ~10% miners that voted, the split is about 4:1 in favour. of the rest... well... something more like the reverse.
mircea_popescu: if one weren't there one could scarcely believe.
mircea_popescu: full spectrum dominance, you know ? "first we fuck up your scamcoin, on ops basis, then you spend all you got to try and prop it somewhere around 70% of what it was, then you try to attack bitcoin on fin basis, we rape you, then..."
BingoBoingo: http://www.riverfronttimes.com/artsblog/2016/06/13/the-st-louis-entrepreneur-behind-greendals-wants-you-to-wear-tires
mircea_popescu: and from the other perspective, you can have this ensemble in a baloon and solar powered. etc.
phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember)
asciilifeform: no sram in there.
asciilifeform: nope, not them
mircea_popescu: well, and all the iot crapolade
asciilifeform: (really from the market for standalone sram chips drying up, i suspect)
mircea_popescu: you know, old tech progressed lots since the 70s
asciilifeform: only eats half the address space, lel.
asciilifeform: and now for the fastest 8bx8b mul of all:
asciilifeform: that sit there happily drawing a femtoamp each
asciilifeform: sram is where you have the actual bistable circuits
asciilifeform: the gnarly pile of shit that we use today
asciilifeform: this is included in the cycle count
mircea_popescu: the ram has no latency in all this ?
asciilifeform: remove the rts and inline the procedure to shave cost of the return (which is titanic)
asciilifeform: each shift was 2cyc instruction (assuming payload is in A reg, otherwise worse)
mircea_popescu: still, how the fuck your lookup is going to be less than 8 cycles, you need 2 to call and 2 to return
asciilifeform: you don't have to <<4 anything either
mircea_popescu: there's no need to look up 3 * 4 and 4 * 3 aha
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 01:30 asciilifeform: 'Two months later, on October 1st, as an adjunct to Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty, Robert Strange McNamara started inducting into the military men who previously would not have qualified in a million years. He called it Project 100,000 ...'
asciilifeform: like most people then.
mircea_popescu: apparently mos tech actually did the "design" oilpen on paper
mircea_popescu: actually uses exactly the 8080 bus huh
asciilifeform: the period ver went to 2Mhz
mircea_popescu: so you seriously talk to the bus each time ?
asciilifeform: 'Two months later, on October 1st, as an adjunct to Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty, Robert Strange McNamara started inducting into the military men who previously would not have qualified in a million years. He called it Project 100,000 ...'
asciilifeform: http://everything2.com/title/The+Arms+Race+between+Moths+and+Bats << also interesting, in re parallels with modern aerial combat..
asciilifeform: any other 8bit sinners here can tell me wtf i'm missing? mircea_popescu ? gernika ?
asciilifeform: anyway i'm lazy, ... but it still looks faster than the cited 151 cycle worst-case on e2
asciilifeform: we can do the high nibble of the low byte as one add-with-carry followed by a collective shlykk
asciilifeform: we never do the last term's shling because we know that it is 2nd byte of result.
asciilifeform: then got distracted.
asciilifeform: i was sitting for last 20min working out whether this is actually faster than treating the nibbles as digits and table-ating the resulting 'bignum mult' or not
mircea_popescu: and ALSO exactly homomorphic to why i said division doesn't belong in there.
mircea_popescu: complete with all the sclerotic tissue of say hollywood, reproduced at scale.
asciilifeform: in other not at all nyooz, http://everything2.com/title/Fast+6502+multiplication << witness the non-pedi-wikia.
mircea_popescu: people in my (and i guess also your) part of the world did a lot of traveling around europe while staying home
mircea_popescu: well, exactly like pili, except the weak-ass l is replaced by the zdrongezt consonant known to man.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger afair it had a deal back in 2010ish ? with twitter too ; then twitter backed out, was a bit of a scandal, then i gues fb backed out quietly.
Framedragger: sometimes i think that's the _whole_ point
mircea_popescu: they got a problem don't they ? missing out on most of the shannonized / markov chained "content" production these days
mircea_popescu: in other news, google search can't actually see inside facebook can it.
Framedragger: yeah i wonder what imperial rule would do there huh
asciilifeform: libya-->labia and then civil war splits into minora and majora...
asciilifeform: beoblethemselves.
mircea_popescu: SOVEREIGNITY! DEMOCRACY! PEOPLE THEMSELVES!
asciilifeform: england will certainly remain in the caliphate.
Framedragger: cause they all grown up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no such thing - reich wears belt and suspenders before putting on idiot show. they're locked into overlapping treaties to ~same effect as eu membership.
asciilifeform: in the red white an' blue shitter.
mircea_popescu: in the shitter ?
asciilifeform: 50/49 exist in usgland where bushes and gores pointlessly antler one another in ritual combat.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, the predictions throughout are a complete joke. newcastle predicted 66/33 actual 50/49
Framedragger: scotland is like 70% for remain iirc? theirs are coming at 5am maybe, but then scotland is smallish
mircea_popescu: so did the brits quit or what ?
Framedragger: but it's "in the logz!!" :D (first mentioned by me, earlier today) yeah nvm
mircea_popescu: ah, so then not that shortly.
Framedragger: from https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys , some keys appear to be revoked a ~year ago; i'm sure further audits and removals followed.
Framedragger: don't get your hopes of grandeur up folks, the timeline may simply fit
asciilifeform: they've had eons.
mircea_popescu: aha, but enemy hasn't, for a while, then we started talking about it and welll...
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 21:05 jurov: Framedragger: I started fetching the keys shortly after they cleaned them
asciilifeform: ^ advantage of having no account there
asciilifeform: (for anyone not tuned in, 'white hat attacker' was the me-too draining of the remaining dao by buterin et al)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 22:15 shinohai: Cries for Hard fork abound in the ethereum subreddit due to the new message sent by the hacker via Bitcoin Suisse
asciilifeform: even in shinohai's summary, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488807 -- it was quite unclear what is 'the hacker'
asciilifeform: then, next, plays cloak'n'dagger games with reddit, etc.
asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy. buterin drains own shit bottle, rebrands as 'whitehat attacker', then signs message. voila, 'nobody' gives a fuck re original message.
shinohai: For asciilifeform http://archive.is/rbR58 I'm sorry that person trolling the data mines fir a Qntra offends thy person so.
trinque: thestringpuller: dumping db 1sec
trinque: sgt asciilifeform hazes another conscript into tears
trinque: itt thestringpuller learns to lisp ass first
asciilifeform: saying 'i read on reddit...' without link is quite pointless, you already admitted to habitually fucking farm animals, why not then share whether goat snatch is tight or not, it won't hurt
trinque: though you may want to use the sexp. I wrote deedbot such that it doesn't actually care much about SQL
trinque: thestringpuller: nah not yet; I'll let you know
Bugpowder: only the redditpost
phf: thestringpuller: sexp hard or go home
thestringpuller: trinque: is there a sql wot dump?
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but i ain't dredging through kilometre-deep pile of liquid shit.
shinohai: Cries for Hard fork abound in the ethereum subreddit due to the new message sent by the hacker via Bitcoin Suisse
shinohai: The things one finds rummaging around.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:59 phf: i find 1s eval delays unacceptable when i'm in the zone
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 17:36 asciilifeform: the peter todd turd is a true classic of its genre: 'we gotta commit an atrocity. but we first will get CONSENSOOOS!!1111 so then it won't be an atrocity, fuckyou. and btw we control the vertical and the horizontal and all the votez, so fuckyou.x2'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488554 << you forgot the best part. "3. and this masturbatory bullshit is THE WORLD ; and your actual world is JUST LIKE THIS."
mircea_popescu: there's ~one ethereum trader and ~one ethereum miner, in the sense there's ~one person in any set of clothes. some mites etc also there, but they generally "don't count".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488551 << gotta love the overload there, really, like bitcoin ? but anyway.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 16:34 asciilifeform: (the dope is for when you need minister of finance whateverthefuck to start spewing rubbish on camera, or jump from his window with only mild assistance, etc)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488544 <<< the beauty of 2nd generation date rape drugs is that the victim will gleefully assist you to eg. rob their car.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 16:32 trinque: G4S has previously been accused of improperly vetting its employees. In 2009, Danny Fitzsimons, a former British paratrooper and employee of a G4S subsidiary, killed two colleagues in Iraq, claiming to be “the antichrist” and saying he “must satisfy” his “bloodlust.” << wouldn't blow my mind that $lizardhitler has a drug that induces this
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488536 << which is why the boston shooting thing is a lot more suspect than the orlando thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1488519 << eh, what crowd. there wasn't a crowd for that one, not within a mile. that's the point of the article.
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #trilema 8 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 36 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mike_c> at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mircea+popescu
mircea_popescu: anyway. the best point in the entire piece is the observation that probabilistic models are much better at making sense of linguistic evolution. for this reason alone they're prolly worth looking into.
mircea_popescu: "an adult who paid attention in calculus does in fact know billions of numeric facts (for example, that one says 45345333×54353453=2464675425984849 rather than 95). these facts must somehow be encoded in the brain."
mircea_popescu: "And yes, it seems clear that an adult speaker of English does know billions of language facts (for example, that one says "big game" rather than "large game" when talking about an important football game). These facts must somehow be encoded in the brain. "
ben_vulpes: 'lemming together'
asciilifeform: i misread as 'lenin-ing together'
asciilifeform: 'Together women accomplish amazing things. Google supports #LeanInTogether' << google usa front page.
Framedragger: from reddit, "The DAO hacker gives an interview" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0 (works for me as i don't understand spanish)
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'hash the blocks' is a pretty obvious thing imho, like 'train cars ought to have linked brakes' - both nevertheless omitted for various jwzistic reasons from the originals
mircea_popescu: i'm in the enviable position of not really needing a cv for anything.