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asciilifeform: my point was that much of what was ordinary or even commonplace then, is scarce and precious now
ben_vulpes: i get the ~40 yo ones, only ~1k
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if memory serves, they cost ~2-3k a pop, which is to say about the same as a hundred vinyls or so.
ben_vulpes has several of these
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irani imports, "persian carpets" in romania. the shit that was common middle class in my parents' house and is now untold luxury omfg.
asciilifeform: the main perk of my current dwelling was its absence.
ben_vulpes: never vacuum the kilim
ben_vulpes: they cannot get it right here.
phf: it seems like they can't quite get it right here
phf: but have that at the expense of builtin "carpet" in bedroom
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 16:07 mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495657 << i have that one, it's available here, but premium feature. the kind of stuff you see on those "rich people in new york apartments" photos
asciilifeform: they are built by the thousands as a straight scam of the banks on themselves.
asciilifeform: just like the ones near where i live.
asciilifeform: though, interestingly, i did see a freshly-built block of cardboard condos right in the middle of the red zone. empty.
mircea_popescu: which they infested in the 60s/70s.
asciilifeform: they are used to keep it out of the white cardboard.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the deep reason amored truck is "needed" is exactly this : moving the injuns around will require some caterpillaring.)
mircea_popescu: apparently, they want them back so bad, it's even worth destroying the police over it.
mircea_popescu: people want the houses of the grandfathers back, can't built them anymore.
asciilifeform: built in 1920s at the latest.
mircea_popescu: yep. kinda what's driving the entire resettling of the injuns.
asciilifeform: and one of the appealing things re the bmore structures was that they were from a previous age
asciilifeform: the cardboard houses and all.
asciilifeform: i was speaking from the pov of the gosplan folk who designed this crapolade
mircea_popescu: it's a war, after all. i count their "innocent victims" even as they count mine.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the usg counts "corruption" against me. i don't.
asciilifeform: poor schmuck burns down, another will come in his place.
mircea_popescu: "nobody". the usg doesn't. i do.
asciilifeform: i brought a miner's head lamp with me, and scarcely had to use it, except in the cellar.
asciilifeform: incidentally the bmore house had massive skylights.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing externalities, let's do the whole shebang, not like i'm a fucking redskin and the oh-so-clever ustard is going to get to count MY externalities and just mine.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter the disadvantage of porthole + neon light "for energy efficiency" ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform anyone bothered to run the "fire hazard cost" "amortized over lifetime of house" for the shitty wood-glass napalm mix ?
mircea_popescu: such, such were the joys.
asciilifeform: ergo tiny portholes instead of windows. and the other joys.
asciilifeform: how does that help in the summertime ?
asciilifeform: amortized over the life of the house.
asciilifeform: the thermal cost.
mircea_popescu just did the calc, ~800 bucks for 3.55 x 2.0 meter window, 24mm float glass x2 with argon filling.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same for the ones i linked. of course.
asciilifeform: the glass is double-layered and there is typically inert gas inside.
mircea_popescu: we'll fuck in the park.
mircea_popescu: yes, and it makes me want to put the drink down and leave.
asciilifeform: ^ these are sop pretty much everywhere there is a window.
mircea_popescu: it's a 20sqft slab whose main purpose is to allow the master bedroom to have proper windows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usually this is done for the 2 rooms (of 4) that have "a balcony"
asciilifeform: in usa this also exists, typically doubles as the back door of a house.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they were wood rather than plastic frame then
mircea_popescu: obviously not the historical window in question.
mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
asciilifeform: there are perhaps 3 or 4 separate circles of hell in usa re windows.
mircea_popescu: they have these tiny shits, more insult than window. and then IT ONLY OPENS HALFWAY.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i dunno that i loathe anything us as much as THE MOTHERFUCKING WINDOWS.
asciilifeform: yes window. the only usable opening.
asciilifeform: ruinously inefficient on account of their proximity.
asciilifeform: hence window boxes, where the hot end hangs out and cold end blows in.
mircea_popescu: but also done for condos here and there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, central air is when you have a huge tube and the conditioning happens entirely outside.
mircea_popescu: unlike central air, you move freon gas around rather than air. so no huge tubage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a split unit is this thing where the compressor and hot phase sit outside, for instance on roof, and cold head inside.
mircea_popescu: just thinking about "window ac", wtf is this "feel good" nonsense. it clearly doesn't solve the problem, it just what, gives you the impression of a cool breeze ?
mircea_popescu: there's a space between "window ac" and "central air". you can get a proper split unit installed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is an improvement for the trees!
asciilifeform: eh, the american variant (where sc4mz0rz stow imaginary printolade in faux 'havens', where their accounts get promptly zeroed out upon discovery) is scarcely an improvement
mircea_popescu: now you know where Guo Boxiong's truckful comes from. it's a dropplet of the rain falling on all things from the comrade xi's fountain.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 15:01 asciilifeform: where they ran out of where to put the dough
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495567 << regarding this from a purely engineering perspective, what better proof that government fucked up with the printer, than when there's more dough THAN WHERE TO PUT IT
gribble: Framedragger was last seen in #trilema 4 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Framedragger> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492083 << out of loop; soo, many awesome bitcoin nodes actually run on the same host? kinda hilarious / sad
mircea_popescu: i suppose mormon smith imagined europe needs "a new kind of mormon bible". you know, the one they've had for about 2k years.
mircea_popescu: get a load of these schmucks. step 1 : pretend inept, boring shit like "star trek" and "the assvengers" is fiction. step 2 : pretend even more inept, boring shit like "star trek 8" and "assvengers 7.3" is ALL THE POSSIBLE FICTION. step 3. pretend like the ~everyone who never gave a shit about the little island of crazy "needs a new something or the other".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495562 << and the literary genre in question is "the us is so assburgerdly fucktarded it is its own, if marginal, genre fiction."
mircea_popescu: o wait, i was fixing another one :D
asciilifeform: quite aside from all other goals.
asciilifeform: phf: the goal is to not also have an albatross.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/cXrc0 << somehow clickable there.
phf: i thought goal was zero rent, rather then resale value?
asciilifeform: phf: it is possible to install wiring yourself, yes. but the house will not be sellable unless you are licensed electrician.
mircea_popescu: what the shit.
mircea_popescu: did you reload the page or something ? i can click it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: link in the comment is broken
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117906 << i just produced a proper definition of slave empire! formal and all!
asciilifeform: (of same type as the pictured one, but in working condition)
asciilifeform: which makes the entire project wholly uninteresting.
asciilifeform: but also that if you add it all up, it begins to resemble the cost of 'actual' house.
phf: i suspect it's a dodgy proposition in the death area, because someone will definitely try and steal AC out of your window
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495542 << ben_vulpes could literally buy entire street in bmore for what he is almost certainly paying in the white man's land
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495502 << continuing re the motorcycles, after reading some moar lafond, i realized why i've never seen them elsewhere: they aren't street-legal in usa - no tags, no lights
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 05:24 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you in the camp of fixing putting in essentials and being cool with not doing everything at once, or are you in camp alf who want to turn ghetto dirigible into yet another suburan cookie cutter thing.
asciilifeform: where they ran out of where to put the dough
asciilifeform: 'Second example. Guo Boxiong is a retired general in the People’s Liberation Army. When Guo was investigated for corruption, they found so much cash in his home that they couldn’t even try to count it with a currency-counting machine. They had to weigh it by the ton. They needed a truck to haul it all away.'
asciilifeform: 'Early in 2015, a department head at the National Development and Reform Commission was investigated for corruption. In his apartment they found more cash than they could count by hand. They got currency-counting machines so they could zip right through the counting, but they burned out four of the machines before they got a final tally, which was more than 200 million Renminbi, which is about 31 million US dollars.'
mircea_popescu: mats no, the unobvious part in all that is, i suppose for lack of vocal underlining, the owner. in the uci model, any individual piece of hardware has one owner, who makes it available through the uci, sets the prices, etc ; and some tenants.
mircea_popescu: mats myeah. the european notion of china is still very much a sort of "empire of cockroach". absurd yet perennial.
trinque: whether that's me advocating what I want or describing what's been said
trinque: mats: seems moar like you'd pay per request of whatever is offered through the UCI
BingoBoingo: No leaks in the plumbing, no arcs in the wiring, and you're good
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: my style of remodeling is to install the range and hood and for baby doll to apply finish and molding as nursing cooking laundry and meal planning afford time
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you in the camp of fixing putting in essentials and being cool with not doing everything at once, or are you in camp alf who want to turn ghetto dirigible into yet another suburan cookie cutter thing.
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, that would have been quite the ambitious remodel to say the least.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ripple/ << in other ethereum news. the previous incarnation, that was going to "take over" 2013-2014, is so fucking hot right now a two week suck-up is front page news still.
mircea_popescu: ftr : to force google to use the fucking sane index as opposed to "localized" and other bullshit, google.com/ncr
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:46 mats: the plan is to run it on bare metal, isn't it? doesn't that end up being pretty expensive?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:37 mats: i was just thinking about the bug men comment from earlier (no i don't take it personally)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495511 << hm, i parsed that in the sense of orwell's "bug men". you think he meant azns ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:35 mats: the nice thing about alf is that he's an equal opportunity racist
mats: what kinda services are going to be involved that it'd be profitable to operate the infrastructure and build the code in the first place
mats: the plan is to run it on bare metal, isn't it? doesn't that end up being pretty expensive?
asciilifeform: they did not bother me.
asciilifeform: funnily enough, i liked the orcs.
mats: i was just thinking about the bug men comment from earlier (no i don't take it personally)
asciilifeform hates everybody but the catfolk
mats: the nice thing about alf is that he's an equal opportunity racist
asciilifeform: possibly moved from the 'trailer parks' to the cheap row houses
asciilifeform: but they had a certain peculiar appearance about them
asciilifeform: oddly enough there were many white folk
asciilifeform: they were tiny, truly, could fit in a car's boot
asciilifeform: i especially liked this kind of motorcycle that the local orcs ride, it looks like it is made for a boy, their arses just nearly touch the ground !
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this thing was in the middle of ladond's red zone map
mats: i was looking at the wrong comment in the thread
mircea_popescu: lol thestringpuller been a busy little blogger lately has he
mats: it appears judgepedia has a better idea of how many federal magistrates there are than the website of the Federal Judicial Center
asciilifeform: https://i.imgsafe.org/875dac0d89.jpg << gigantic castle-like thing on the horizon, with trees growing through the roof.
asciilifeform: ^ yes, hard-wired to the house. hence still in the rubble.
trinque: "I the eater of computer worlds one day saw this shithole" .jpg
mircea_popescu: this notion, "Blog has subj" is the fucking mind eater.
BingoBoingo: does that drain convey water down? if yes the expensive part of your one sink is done!
asciilifeform: tired of the ad bar
asciilifeform: on the left hand side: sink trap, yes.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still a profession of drains, but the push-to-connect fittings are pretty much it for anyone who can measure, cut, and deburr pipe.
BingoBoingo: Are there termites y/n?
mircea_popescu: the fact is, condemned property is usually more expensive to fix than greenfield development.
mircea_popescu: eh, prolly starts with fixing the floor, an' the pipes and etc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Anyways if you use sharbites (even if you decide to use legacy copper theft bait) the entire spectrum of expenses incurred by the plumbing profession is eliminated on the water supply side
mircea_popescu: and this filth, this scum, these apeish subhuman objects of scorn and derision aim to participate in things ? with people ? form communities ? have a voice ?
mircea_popescu: "I am hoping there will be a hard fork and all is resolved soon so that we can go back to normal days with the excitement of watching and reading about all the innovation that is going on with Ethereum. Maybe /u/vbuterin if you have time."
BingoBoingo: Spend one outlet from your budget on dehumidifier, another on window AC for whichever room you choose to condition.
asciilifeform: it isn't that all of this cannot be fixed, but that the cost adds up quickly.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What can't you fix in these houses that goes beyond two 100 ft rolls of PEX and crimping tools?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. the chain of forced mistakes.
BingoBoingo: Who ever knew there'd be a day when plumbing pressurized supply became easier than plumbing drain
mircea_popescu: gaw veterans no doubt remember the same "1.oh we're taking over the world 2.no nevermind, tiny road bump ; 3. o wait we got a fix ; 4. crap the fix don't work but we'll pull together as a assburger community ; 5. omfg the trolls!!!!"
mircea_popescu: awww! funny how these always go the same way.
mircea_popescu: "Where Can I Find The Latest Update On The Path Forward? Its stressful here now on Reddit trying to navigate content with all the Trolls that have arrived lately trying to spread lies and FUD."
asciilifeform: the idea of paying ~0 is so alluring, it is like dividing by zero
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 01:35 mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495375 <<< I am watching the topic eagerly, just waiting for a good Qntra to emerge.
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
asciilifeform: the whole lafond safari set in one place
asciilifeform: old white bloke on electric wheelchair going up, down, up, down, the street, all day long
asciilifeform: the locals were an interesting set of mental case
mircea_popescu bought a coupla dozen, chopped them off, stuck in jars with clove, muskatnuss, a little alspice and about 3 bottles of cognac
mircea_popescu: but in other news, the best pears ever got in season here, they're fabulous
asciilifeform: reckoned up the cost of the missing parts, and it + base cost is > what i got.
mircea_popescu: "For the other thing, rape’s no fun if the meat’s not at the very least squiggling and the #etherape’s no different."
mircea_popescu remembers fondly the times back... oh, was it like maybe two weeks ago ? when the victorious forces of derp bought their way out of the hole because hey, they got enough moneyz to bury me or something ?
shinohai: I thought about it but they are a pretty small pool in terms of total net hash.
mircea_popescu: ima give it a week or something see if there's objections or anything ?
mircea_popescu: mats say leave a comment with link to the csv you used for source, and with your extracted set
mats: so i looked at the remaining judge's case history (Charles Wilson) and he doesn't have any that meet the qualifications
shinohai: http://archive.is/h9UtE <<< supernova to close their ethereum mining pool, because fuck the hard fork.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-02#1495275 << jaysus she falls on the trough no less.
xcfw748: thanks for your time, if i get bored again i may take another pass keeping feedback in mind
shinohai: It certainly isn't my decision to make, ignore me. I am of the "if not broke, why fix?" camp
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-02#1495319 <<< this I agree with. The current scheme is instantly identifiable as Qntra, beyond shadow of a doubt.
xcfw748: yes, i appreciated when the @media query was added
xcfw748: did not change the font specification from the current css
BingoBoingo: And so on tends to lead to the current theme staying the same.
BingoBoingo: And no specifying fonts, because what if people prefer to change their default font to their favorite?
BingoBoingo: The problem is not the aesthetic, but the usability
xcfw748: BingoBoingo noted. is this a direction you would be interested in given some modifications? or is it not the right aesthetic for qntra?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 experiment worked, but is only useful for already crafted tx's since there is no signrawtransaction capability yet.
BingoBoingo: Why should eyes have to work any harder than the minimum. Let brain do the work, not eyes.
xcfw748: re: gray text, which gray text on the page offends?
xcfw748: the inline links are colored blue to distinguish from adjacent, non link text
xcfw748: yes, the black links for post titles and sidebar story links are all links. readers are used to them being links by nature of their placement on the page
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you two know each other ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ah ok then!
BingoBoingo: And what's with the black links? Are they links?
mircea_popescu: lol. alf getting ahead of you in the seeing the world score ben_vulpes ? WHERE'S YOUR PORTLAND NAO, BISH ???
a111: Logged on 2016-07-02 19:43 mircea_popescu: and in other wedding news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/59ea216b3448d34ae033dca13746ade7/tumblr_nqsgypF89E1rhw4clo1_500.gif
asciilifeform done with the ruinz, now off into generic bmore
xcfw748: if you like it i can finish up what's in the @media query for mobile and send it over
trinque could not be more enthusiastic about joining the UCI conversation when he tires of beer and beauty, bbl!
trinque makes a drive-by comment because otherwise busy drinking at pool with babes
thestringpuller: did another restart. (i pinged the ip and it works?). so we'll see what happens. I'm just using -connect to do initial sync.
shinohai: Im experiencing much the same with mine, after a while goes to zero connections and never reconnects unless I restart.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-02 16:56 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i'm guessing zoolag is down?
asciilifeform: their terminology.
asciilifeform: where there are already 5-6 cruisers writhing impotently
asciilifeform: but typically the armoured thing is not used as cruiser
asciilifeform: to mow them zulus down.
asciilifeform: how lost ? the apc is there in case the designated africas try to spill into the rockvilles.
mircea_popescu: or, for that matter, what it being the cruiser means.
mircea_popescu: ask nypd veteran from the days the city still ~worked, whether he'd like that for a cruiser
mircea_popescu: ya but it also means they lost.
asciilifeform: it's internal security, guardia civil, whatever. in usa they both, for historic accident, are called 'police'.
asciilifeform: it dun need mobility. plants down, then opens fire from turret.
asciilifeform: aha, them
asciilifeform: they are spiffy, i've been inside one, it is like lenin's little tank
asciilifeform: phf: these were issued to all md police precincts some time after gulf war 2
asciilifeform: where the 'red' metro line ends.
asciilifeform: rockville is where the bureaucrat folk live.
asciilifeform: phf: somebody's gotta issue them parking ticketz!11
phf: they have city court, district court and state court, and a police building. i've not seen this many police cars patrollin in my life. even in russia
mircea_popescu: fucking buffallo, will stampede, nothing you can do. felides and canides have better shit to do than get themselves killed over bothering you.
asciilifeform: lel i lived there for more than decade
phf: gabriel_laddel: rockville, md. they had a crime here once, a black guy jaywalked.
gabriel_laddel: sorry, safest city in the us is?
phf: girl was complaining in ghetto from time to time "man, i'm tired of these black guys hooting and hollering after me, nigga i'm just trying to make it to the store". so we moved to "safest city in united states" and she ~hates~ it. "men here smell of desperation, frankly i'm more terrified of them then i was of ghetto guys"
asciilifeform: some of them folk have iron doors that'd be the envy of any bank, etc
mircea_popescu: most of the girls can't either.
mircea_popescu: anyway. /me has always lived in ghetto. i can't fucking stand "gated communities" and in general the stench of fear.
mircea_popescu: "bitch, you got a free pass because your white boy ass can't jump, an' now you go an' kill the homeboy ?!?!?!?"
mircea_popescu: phf kinda why the black criminal world was so indignant over that trayvon martin thing.
phf: i used to live in dodgy part of west philadelphia, and as i would make my way to civilization you'd start encountering campus police on patrol, which i realized is exactly like medieval sentries. these chubby, mostly ineffective guys and girls doing their rounds at 2am. "2 PAST MIIIDNIGHT. ALL IS SAFE"
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel legal immunity. as they say in civ, "our words are backed with nuclear weapons".
mircea_popescu: anyway. mass rape of, to quote, "many of the most beautiful Jewesses" is never an accident. everything conspires to get the lambs slaugthered.
asciilifeform: yes, the jhu that has armed escorts from lecture hall to garage
asciilifeform: http://www.jameslafond.com/btg << the blue zone in top center of lafond's map
mircea_popescu: aha. i am evidently not the only one with this plan.
mircea_popescu: you want extensive gangland few miles away from large school where idiot middleclass / helimoms send their precious, isolated offspring.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, but i believe you to be the sort who would have also believed romanian state to exist in 1992.
phf: "A small university located in Orangeburg, SC where ghetto kids with low GPA's go so that they are able to say that they attended college. Drug and otherwise criminal activity on campus make the school experience here quite similar to living in the projects."
mircea_popescu: phf there's options, just, not sure the chicken's cooked yet.
asciilifeform: there are ~two~ large campusen in bmore
phf: "backpack or death". that's gotta be lamest gangsta motto i've heard. reminds me of the russian gop stop in the 90s, one tactic was "do you have (cellphone|money|magic the gathering card)?" and if you said no the next gambit always cracked me up "if i found them they will be mine?" like oh shit they're on to me
mircea_popescu: do you know old women here have the unmitigated gall to sit in cafes ? LIKE THEY WERE PEOPLE ?!?!
mircea_popescu: the choices are practically various sorts of socialism, and female-led argentina is WAY the fuck worse than female-led us.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's true. if the us napalmed this place into the ground i'd be the first to applaud. it's an insult to humanity.
mircea_popescu: it is an absurd situation, to hate the usg and propose "independent people" are the solution, then look at what "soberania y patria bla bla" idiots make and decide you'd rather see a slave empire in its place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd prefer ted turner's latifundias to the current fauna ?
mircea_popescu: phf yeah. "sacate la mochilla", which ll = y they mispronounce as sh because mountaineous gits, means "take off your backpack"
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is an idea i love. these idiots should not exist.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the issue : the flow was "ship to montevideo ferry to ba", but this changed recently, and likely to change more in the future. current president is usg tool and pretty firmly set on raping the locals
mircea_popescu: they're entirely incapable of skilled labour.
mircea_popescu: but it does get their attention, and the whip does the rest, provided you don't need them for any skilled purpose.
mircea_popescu: they don't understand words, in the sense that the meaning may form but the idea that there's a relation between action and meaning is as foreign to them as tentacles are to mammal reproductory system.
mircea_popescu: in general, the correct pattern of interaction with argentines, and i suspect south americans in general, is to talk loudly and carry a whip.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they opened the 2nd counter and i was out of there in five minutes.
mircea_popescu: rations decided he'd cut in and pretend he's the manager, so i asked him his name, at which point the entire fucking sky fell on his head. he didn't see that one coming, he honestly imagined he's going to be the anonymous responsible & in charge.
phf: mochila is like the guy who мочит
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i was sick, recently. wanted supplies. idiots were running one single counter (of the two in the place) and the local women were doing their local womanly bullshit : bagfull of 100+ different 10gram items individually wrapped, to be paid with "credit card". so i asked the girl to call the manager over, and she was like "he's that way" and i was i dun give a shit, call him over. at which point some kid with aspi

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