mircea_popescu: i suppose the difference is in the concept of what's the mission for this unit. i'm thinking "national guard is for the government to have who to call when it needs a sudden influx of unskilled labour".
mircea_popescu: but leaving that part aside, anyone overweight to the point of impaired mobility is seriously lacking in basic reasoning skills ; i have a hard time buying the theory they're of average intelligence. they probably score slightly above the "can't learn to read and write" and slightly below the "can't learn to drive" camps of retards.
mircea_popescu: mats "institutional knowledge", explain this to me ? they're gonna put the fire out with mess hall jokes ?
mircea_popescu: even that's far fetched, us management capacities bottom out around 1-2k people or so, as seen in both wtc and katrina theatres.
mats: well, they have institutional knowledge over however many 20-30-40 years in .mil and you'll throw it away because they're fat?
mircea_popescu: wtf is the point of having 1.4mn natl guard when all you can ever conceivably use is maybe 20-50k ?
mircea_popescu: prolly a better deal than trying to tow it back to maryland or w/e it is they've been trying to do and not managing since january.
mats: for the physical fitness test.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what uss forth worth would fetch if they gave up the pretense it's a "warship" and just auctioned it off in singapore.
mircea_popescu: mats i bet they could break up a mini-rave.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: also, you'll be pleased to note that a flash drive of the appropriate size is being shipped to me on thursday
gabriel_laddel: Message to future noobs. I spent, on several occasions, multiple days (3-5) doing nothing but reading trilema.com, logs & loper-os to catch up - there is no "hack" to get up to speed.
mircea_popescu: "The House bill, for example, includes $1.5 billion for an unrequested modern amphibious warship for dual land and sea missions, $400 million for four unrequested C-40 aircraft to carry cargo and commanders, and $1 billion worth of unrequested National Guard equipment, a perennial pork-barrel favorite, the Taxpayers for Common Sense report said. " << so basically, 1`000`000 smartphones.
mircea_popescu: i forget the figure, but in any case the only way one could be tricked into even starting is by creating the false impression that it's approachable through cutting it up into articles
Joshua-I: Well I'm sure you can cut some of the posts
Joshua-I: Well they would be isomorphic I'm sure
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 03:17 Joshua-I: Should I read the logs most recent to least recent or the other way around
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497840 << logs stretch out to 2012. at this point prolly best approach is to put word of your interest in search, read the results and the references.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497830 << make sure you're working off the correct version.
BingoBoingo: Or mebbe start in January 2016 and read to no and then do 2015, 2014, and 2013
BingoBoingo: Just want the most recent month to put history into context
BingoBoingo: Which is still different from thedrinkingrecord.com wp fork.
BingoBoingo: And no, qntra theme has not yet been tested with mp-wp. Runs own wp fork.
Joshua-I: I have seen it just though jquery was built right in there, since I've never seen wp without it
Joshua-I: Yeah I did a quick check and the answer is yes
BingoBoingo: Joshua-I: You obviously haven't seen qntra theme
asciilifeform: but i'd rather just have a <64kB thing.
Joshua-I: This is neat: https://wordpress.org/themes/commodore/
asciilifeform: 200kB css is loathesome.
asciilifeform: i dun so much care that it 'looks like commodore64' but it really ought to fit in the address space of one.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if any web / css / designer people wants to do something useful, an old amiga/dos style theme for the tmsr wp would be apparently mucho appreciated.
asciilifeform: they were spiffy.
asciilifeform: then i will use, and say 'thank you'
asciilifeform: so answer seems to be 'write theme'
asciilifeform: they all suck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ironically, if your original is from 2007, mp-wp should work with your theme out of the box.
mircea_popescu: ah. well, maybe let it be give it another try once shinohai produced a version.
asciilifeform: and the result ~worked.
asciilifeform: back when i set up original www, i used a heathen shitpress with as much as could be removed.
asciilifeform: even half a debugger, that meaningfully steps through the process of shitting out the html, would be useful
trinque: sure there's skewer and whatever other *awful* madness I've dipped my dick into now and again
trinque: even if you had your debugger it wouldn't be meaningfully attached to the browser
asciilifeform: how the fuck do folks put up with a thing with no debugger ?
asciilifeform: i will become a php monkey shortly after i learn to run the deep fryers at mickeydee's.
asciilifeform: phf apparently knows enough to replicate working setup without the missing pieces and without using the pig-ugly default theme.
trinque: there is always "not to be"
asciilifeform: i confess that i have not found this exercise to be either pleasant, or educational, or productive.
asciilifeform: so i dun see the problem ?
mircea_popescu: apparently your interpreter doesn't either.
asciilifeform: how the hell would i know
asciilifeform: there it is.
asciilifeform: my theme has it !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mp tarball does not include a theme.
asciilifeform: is the template.
asciilifeform: the only place in mp tarball that has it
asciilifeform: default theme does no such thing
asciilifeform: but he never published his theme
asciilifeform: it knows that it is in the mod queue
mircea_popescu: damn. how would the machinery know at the time someone hits submit whether you'l lapprove it later or not ?
asciilifeform: hitting 'submit' to be presented with the original page and blank form and NO indication of what happened, is nonsense
mircea_popescu: lol that's not claled "it dun work" now is it. for instance, if youy;d like your current "Your email is never published nor shared. Required fields are marked *" to read like my "If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed." then grep for the first string replace with 2nd string.
asciilifeform: but for some reason the flag is not present ?
mircea_popescu: trilema has a info bit above the comment box instead.
asciilifeform: just pops right back up at the form with empty contents
asciilifeform: other than as logged in user
mircea_popescu: either lift it from his patch or else put it in the theme comments under comment_post_ID
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:28 asciilifeform: unless whole antispam mechanism is commented out, which defeats the whole purpose of using mircea_popescu's item
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497630 << notrly the whole purpose, but a good chunk sure.
asciilifeform: 'Looks like you tried to comment off a stale page. Reload the article, count to three and try again.' << that one.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:26 trinque: mod6: hey maybe the mircea_popescutronic wordpress is a better way to post TRB tutorials/updates than wiki
mircea_popescu: now then. what coment staleness ?
mircea_popescu: the goatse
asciilifeform: unless whole antispam mechanism is commented out, which defeats the whole purpose of using mircea_popescu's item
asciilifeform: even after adding the necessary hooks to the comments.php from particular theme, and the resulting html follows the pattern seen on mircea_popescu's site, i still get 'stale' error
asciilifeform: has anyone other than phf gotten it to work 100% ?
trinque: mod6: hey maybe the mircea_popescutronic wordpress is a better way to post TRB tutorials/updates than wiki
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu try as i might, i can't get the comment-staleness thing to work
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 23:09 shinohai: I simply put "When adding nodes, ask for a signed list of IP addresses from somebody in your WoT. " in the how-to to avoid the "trusted" thing.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497586 << mno. there is no mitm countermeasure because bitcoin nodes have no identity.
asciilifeform: 'http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin to become a citizen.' << this is open invitation to kako to emplace goatse
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 23:09 shinohai: I simply put "When adding nodes, ask for a signed list of IP addresses from somebody in your WoT. " in the how-to to avoid the "trusted" thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 22:16 mod6: asciilifeform: can you confirm/deny that this list is up to date: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin/nodes ?
mircea_popescu: that should hold us for a while then.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 21:21 mod6: As soon as we have a wiki page @ deedbot that doesn't have spaces in the URL, will change them.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497498 << the problem is that currently foreigners aiming to become citizens have no clear path to follow. this hasta be resolved, there must be a well maintained page somewhere they can find and follow.
mircea_popescu: oh, did you submit the thing
shinohai: mircea_popescu: the collectalldrugs "girl" refused my request to come here and show tits.
shinohai: I simply put "When adding nodes, ask for a signed list of IP addresses from somebody in your WoT. " in the how-to to avoid the "trusted" thing.
mod6: this is now linked from the home page as well.
mod6: i just added a trusted nodes page with: deedbot's, zoolag's and pete d's ips: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
mod6: In the next day or so, I'll get a full list of trusted nodes still up and update the page with that as well.
Joshua-I: Haven't read all the logs yet, but I'm getting around to it
asciilifeform: this rounds out the list.
asciilifeform: bucephalus is dead until the next time i can get to it, which won't be for ages
mod6: asciilifeform: can you confirm/deny that this list is up to date: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin/nodes ?
mod6: and, i think we're just gonna change course here on that page "The Real Bitcoin"
mod6: yeah, alternatively i might just stand one up for the foundation
trinque: if that thing doesn't have article name editing I'd have to add it, and I'd rather not end up developing cliki
BingoBoingo: What, they dindu it?
mod6: maybe trinque has a way around this; may be best to see what he says first before you rework the whole shebang
mod6: no sweat either way.
shinohai: Meaning I guess that I will have to redo the whole shebang, sorry guise
mod6: <+mod6> it says: "Put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc" << perhaps a parenthitical needs to be added to this that says: (This is a manual process.)
asciilifeform: TheFactory7: point being, i have nfi why anyone here would care whether some derp somewhere implemented usg's kyc
mod6: There is some extensive documentation to my V. Indeed, and we aspired to make the build recipie as simple as possible for the whole orchastra. So DPB (?) wrote it up and posted it at the previously linked place.
asciilifeform: mod6: i was damn sure there was a draft cookbook but i slept through it, and it was not yet posted to trb www.
mod6: everything that is required to do for anyone is in wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: shinohai: you gonna swap them to dash or somethin?
asciilifeform: TheFactory7: did you see, somewhere in rural china a pig is eating shit ? even as we speak ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: ;;later tell wyrdmantis Yea, you need to gather the wot keys manually, this is by design. Please stop back in if you need more assistance.
mod6: shinohai, trinque ^ can someone please help me out with this? or do I not need an account to make the change?
mod6: As soon as we have a wiki page @ deedbot that doesn't have spaces in the URL, will change them.
mod6: I know it still points there.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 the link in trb.foundation STILL POINTS TO BITCOIN-ASSETS WIKI << Is this necessary?
deedbot: TheFactory7 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: $up TheFactory7
BingoBoingo: $uo TheFactory7
jurov: and it assumes you know how to operate bash, too (to get more helpful information about failure, add set -x to the script)
trinque: go find the key it's asking for and import that
wyrdmantis: i've followed the guide literally
wyrdmantis: i know that between the two he is right and i'm wrong
trinque: it's telling you the truth
wyrdmantis: it keep saying: Impossible to verify the sig: No public key
wyrdmantis: trinque thanks, i'm trying to follow this > http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin
a111: Logged on 2016-06-15 00:24 mod6: so looks like openssl did change to https, and if you want to build with 'http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh', for the time being simply update the script by changing line 63 from:
trinque: wyrdmantis: ^ afaik that's the latest build script.
jurov: wyrdmantis: you need to get stator and press the sources in directory where stator expects them
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the link in trb.foundation STILL POINTS TO BITCOIN-ASSETS WIKI
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Request: pls to let me know if I left any qntra posts about spree killings out of the "weather" category http://qntra.net/category/weather/
ben_vulpes: http://cruisingwithgunhead.tumblr.com/post/146941117989/new-aesthetic-via-this-guy-irl-on-twitter << nobody could have predicted their using the optic nerve as a weapon
trinque: "Will fuck my father for 2 minutes and upload video for $50 USD in bitcoin." << slut either has an old boyfriend, or would've fucked her dad for $0
asciilifeform: in not-quite-nyooz, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18880654/why-do-i-get-the-same-sequence-for-every-run-with-stdrandom-device-with-mingw
BingoBoingo: A lot of things are coming together today
jurov: i do live in carpathians, but near the more boring end :D
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: iirc he is in slovakia, but same time belt
deedbot: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/slovenia/ljubljana << Current Local Time in Ljubljana, Slovenia | http://www.sloveniatimes.com/ << The Slovenia Times - Daily News and Features from Slovenia ... | http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_SI.aspx << Current local time in Slovenia
phf: not particularly, just the fact that sbcl development is now handled by google
phf: unless you're saying that you've been running your own personal fork for years and is ignorant of any going ons around the platform
phf: i thought ecl and sbcl are the only lisps that are in active development
phf: in case you're wondering who's driving the core of sbcl dev
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 16:43 asciilifeform: 'What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.'
mircea_popescu: i thought "our system" was such that the prosecutor, aiming for political office in a decade, will pursue the most fantastic claims out of a misguided desire for publicity, and then cover up the various fabrications. you know, like mayor of new york and ex bhahara giuliani ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, the clapham omnibus prosecutor! novel us doctrine!
asciilifeform: the man was telling the truth re 'no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case'. unless 'reasonable' can somehow include 'wants to be nailgunned'
asciilifeform: 'What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.'
asciilifeform: person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.'
asciilifeform: ansparency is in order. Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a
asciilifeform: 'In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual tr
mircea_popescu: this being the seal on the deal : "Also, be extra careful with leveraged positions. For example, if you have leveraged ETH long pre-fork, you may end up with TWO leveraged long positions of ETH1 and ETH2 post-fork, with each position value at only a fraction of pre-fork ETH."
mircea_popescu: ready to go for the next reiteration of "oh noes, a-guy-that-isn't-mp-i-can-tell-by-some-signapixels beat the shit out of our bitcoin weakening improvements, so now we're making a shitcoin alternative to take over".
mircea_popescu: usg wants to save poloniex (ie, the owners, while somewhat tools, dun wanna be all-the-way tools) so you know, it'll just delist ethereum and that's that.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, was the main and is now the ~only reason for the ethereum hard fork. give a plausible excuse as to why nobody's trading it)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 15:13 thestringpuller: so hardfork will result in doors being nailed shut
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497356 << hey, gotta try and pickle the corpse somehow.
shinohai: Nah, it was just setup woes on a remote Ubuntu server, which is getting replaced with Deb as we speak. Hopefully will go a bit smoother.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nobody read mysql what. it's automatically generated code on the basis of an old instance of lotus 1-2-3
a111: Logged on 2016-07-05 13:45 phf: the trick is to just start waking up before asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-05#1497337 << this is how you train sluts. "there's one pair of panties in the entire house, whichever wakes up first gets them.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller iirc that's in trilema somewhere :D
thestringpuller: so said the prosecution when pursuing OJ
thestringpuller: pretty sure when the machines take over that calculator will remember how well asciilifeform took care of it
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: only cares about his computer bretheren
shinohai: Well looks like Hillary dodged a bullet with the feebs
deedbot: [Qntra] Ether Huffers Continue Fall Into Depravity - http://qntra.net/2016/07/ether-huffers-continue-fall-into-depravity/
shinohai: I'm sure they will be fine, I'm still at least another year away until I can rattle off lulz in the same manner.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: let me know if other new lulz are acceptable
shinohai: Also appears there are some eth users that are going to preserve old chain "Teh REALLY REAL ethereum" http://archive.is/Uf9nW
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Qntra now has a "Weather Category" to document notable instances of Aloha Snackbar http://qntra.net/category/weather/
phf: the trick is to just start waking up before asciilifeform
jurov: thestringpuller: no he said just waken up. that means he reads log when sleeping
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4rbypl/saving_thedao_by_breaking_the_split_mechanism/d4zuhcr <<< you shouldn't have told the world our shit was broken, now we might actually have to fix it.
asciilifeform: betcha the orcs occasionally really do mortar straight up.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497200 << 'If you wish to examine a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon.' - Bokonon
phf: oh that <code> thing gets added and then immediately stripped, it's the function comment_text() that's patched
ben_vulpes: in other mortars: http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451576d69e201b8d1fe4a9a970c-pi
mircea_popescu: but in other system design news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/18ff10efb7ad1b21f377a989a7489826/tumblr_nwhj8r5Lxi1u921buo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: ie, what asciilifeform said he wanted and then said he didn't get :D
mircea_popescu: didn't know if that was theme level or what. good that it made it in anyway.
phf: well, there's a hack in comment.php, that wraps PGP messages in <code> and that gets somehow rendered differently
shinohai: Looks like I should have a clean start to a suitable server to experiment with wp on by in the morning.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell xcfw748 consider making a proper theme for the wp shinohai's cooking, that'd be actually useful. also consider not doing this hit and run thing.
asciilifeform: but you needs the os, yes
mats: asciilifeform: this looks like its for pogo's os, i'm looking for instructions re: a deterministic build process for armv5 you refer to on the ml
xcfw748: addition of some classnames on elements, removing the table in the header in favor of css positioning
xcfw748: i certainly don't know enough to answer that, but i could paste the css somewhere for you if you'd like to check it out
xcfw748: BingoBoingo thanks. since the work is already done, it couldn't hurt to drop it in and get a free facelift.
BingoBoingo: xcfw748: Not bad, but no compelling benefit either. Someone else here did express interest in themes, so Matbe hang around an they'll show up?
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] All the elements of the USSA prison-industrial complex, coming soon to a neighbourhood near you. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/04/all-the-elements-of-the-ussa-prison-industrial-complex-coming-soon-to-a-neighbourhood-near-you/
ben_vulpes: lol "their sensitivity level needs to change"
ben_vulpes: no js didn't work either!
BingoBoingo: Or jsut don't load the .js
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: last year this time i had an entire beach of canadians singing poorly but enthusiastically the same
pete_dushenski: damndest thing : i was actually whistling the star spangled banner to myself while making my 3-egger breakfast omelette, quite out of the blue, and only several hours later recalled that it was colonial 'victory' day down south
mats: then its off to cook off fireworks
mats: or are you referring to this http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000050.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497194 << one can eat only so much idiotmoney before the radiation damage is felt
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 22:12 mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:32 mircea_popescu: and speaking of the cancer that is killing, i give you boxxy! http://67.media.tumblr.com/54a213033482261ad155536f76c3e902/tumblr_nthdczE9Hh1upsme5o1_500.gif