ascii_butugychag: the rest, as with other idiot golden toilets, is for 'intellectual proooooperty'
ascii_butugychag: actually i will point out, re: earlier observation, that the battery and motor are worth, using the free market (ebay) metric, 10k max
ascii_butugychag: and my petrol car works great
ascii_butugychag: for another, money
ascii_butugychag: for one thing you need a garage.
ascii_butugychag: dafuq would i do with such a thing l0l
ascii_butugychag: it still boggles my mind that somebody would buy, for personally sitting in, a $100k machine that doesn't fly.
ascii_butugychag: iirc deer sees in greyscale
ascii_butugychag: this is unpleasantly reminiscent of the unicode faces thread
ascii_butugychag: by some cn dude
ascii_butugychag: 'codenavigator'
ascii_butugychag: i finally discovered a use !
ascii_butugychag: for use in trains
ascii_butugychag: unrelatedly, a crapple pad and one of the apps offered for that machine actually make an ok trb reader
ascii_butugychag: whatever happened with that
ascii_butugychag: to avoid dick cheney !11
ascii_butugychag: or for that matter even lister.
ascii_butugychag: aha!
ascii_butugychag: how else.
ascii_butugychag: aha!
ascii_butugychag: 'snow white and the seven shitgnomes'
ascii_butugychag: ever since the blockheaders thing
ascii_butugychag: nah that's the current prb
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah that'd be 'reloaded'
ascii_butugychag: 'but you're bipedal lambs, lambs aren't supposed to round up village of vermin and shoot'
ascii_butugychag: from what i know of mountain folk (the very endearing chechens esp.) they certainly see the payback they get from the plainsfolk they chronically rape as 'unfair'
ascii_butugychag: any honest genetic study would reveal that being related to said folks is, generally, a very serious handicap..
ascii_butugychag: who existed for millenia and left no ruins worth the mention, never saw the planet until enslaved, etc
ascii_butugychag: 'the folks who stayed behind' (tm) (r)
ascii_butugychag: i'm thinking moar generally
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: subsaharan
ascii_butugychag: and you won't.
ascii_butugychag: than the other kind.
ascii_butugychag: just referring to the hypothesis, amply supported, that the folks who actually make something of themselves, have proportionately less africa in them
ascii_butugychag: (as illustrated especially well in haiti)
ascii_butugychag: well the not-so-seekrit factual basis for the colour warz among the blacks themselves
ascii_butugychag: forbidden for very obvious reasons
ascii_butugychag: 'nobody has airplane, it never existed'
ascii_butugychag: but perhaps i merely suffer from 'reverse cargocult'
ascii_butugychag: i'm not convinced re: the eu genetic report being a genuine thing either
ascii_butugychag: we have 23 corp. et al.
ascii_butugychag: well we don't have ~actual~ genetic studies here in usababwe
ascii_butugychag: i have not paid the shaman, did not drink the goat blood, will not link
ascii_butugychag: in usa.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: wasn't that what 23 corp. supposedly sold ?
ascii_butugychag: have what?
ascii_butugychag: mega-recommended.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: read the src, it won't kill you
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: by default yes
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: 8333 is the traditional, you can set to whatever else, or not listen at all if you -connect
ascii_butugychag: i don't want a car engine that relies on cockroaches turning little wheels.
ascii_butugychag: i said before, will say again, this is a bug.
ascii_butugychag: trying to be a miner was an idiot's game since... 2012 ?
ascii_butugychag: rather than 'hey fellaz let's all use -connect'
ascii_butugychag: which is why i said '2 tiers'
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it's been 80-90% spamola since start of 'stress test' crap
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: restarting is an imaginary remedy
ascii_butugychag: for what, 4 months now ?
ascii_butugychag: aha, precisely what мастер means in ru
ascii_butugychag: doesn't get to cheat, has to personally stand up the walls
ascii_butugychag: like that.
ascii_butugychag: but picture if street derp had to ~build a house~
ascii_butugychag: l0l
ascii_butugychag: from gianni rodari ?
ascii_butugychag: wasn't that italian ?
ascii_butugychag: folks who don't witness toppling cubes etc. growing, apparently don't fully grasp cause-effect...
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, every ~sane~ female i've ever encountered, had cubes
ascii_butugychag: and sleep that night in hilbert's hotel, aha
ascii_butugychag: this was re: the slave example
ascii_butugychag: masochist in the sense where an outsider does not know if 'do x or get beating' is a bribe or a threat
ascii_butugychag: in application to ~masochists~ i'm not certain they are separable from the outside of the head..
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: seawater and uranium are then also 'same thing' ?
ascii_butugychag: if you want sheepfucking ruled on, you ~actually must fuck a sheep~ etc
ascii_butugychag: i thought it was for ddos resistance.
ascii_butugychag: *threat
ascii_butugychag: but to say that there is 'no difference between promise and thread', just because of this residual treat in the candy, is lunacy
ascii_butugychag: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/69279 << unrelated, l0ltr0nic
ascii_butugychag: 'accept this chocolate, it may be your last!111'
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: in the sense of your earlier example, yes
ascii_butugychag: where a persian envoy demanding tribute is shoved into a pit, which appears to have been built and kept around just for said purpose
ascii_butugychag: there was a cruddy american film some time in bush era about sparta
ascii_butugychag often pictures mircea_popescu pushing a messenger into a spiffy stone pit, 'this is SPARTA!~' (tm) (r)
ascii_butugychag: 'bow to your betters'
ascii_butugychag: i thought it was rather the opposite
ascii_butugychag: aha
ascii_butugychag: wai wut, when did they invent the 'unfair' crapolade in cn ?
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: said who, a fishwife in shanghai ?
ascii_butugychag: which else
ascii_butugychag puts on gas mask
ascii_butugychag: and what, 'what's 2+2?' 'how should i know? go add them and i'll tell you'
ascii_butugychag: well you did say 'promise and threat are not separable', no ?
ascii_butugychag: so if i offer a kid a candy, i am threatening him with hunger ?
ascii_butugychag: the famous '80s scotus case where 'police are not ~required~ to show up even if they know the hour of your advance murder' thing
ascii_butugychag: aaaactually
ascii_butugychag: but in practice, is it ?
ascii_butugychag: the whole no-overlapping-turfs thing is supposed to be guaranteed by turf war, etc. i get it
ascii_butugychag: i can only guess, but 'go and pay or shoot that one yourself, he's not mine'
ascii_butugychag: then 'too bad' ?
ascii_butugychag: 'if i were a general...'
ascii_butugychag: now these, everyone has met, i think
ascii_butugychag: can haz example? let's say bag man helpfully tells restaranteur, '$x/mo. or your place burns'. where is the hidden bribe ?
ascii_butugychag: *thick
ascii_butugychag: am i think or what, i don't see the equivalence. bribery and threat are approx. as equivalent as arses and elbows
ascii_butugychag: translate plox
ascii_butugychag: and, e.g., bribery vs extortion, rather separate skill sets, no ?
ascii_butugychag: for thinking
ascii_butugychag: but given the mammalian tendency to 'hate to lose more than loving to win' (as described in a mircea_popescu article !) it makes sense to distinguish 'threat' and 'promise' as items
ascii_butugychag: ah.
ascii_butugychag: waiwut
ascii_butugychag: then yes.
ascii_butugychag: threat works as well as promise
ascii_butugychag: or some other set ?
ascii_butugychag: so mircea_popescu, which 'wrong people' might that be? the ones with 'no money and no engineers' ?
ascii_butugychag still l0ling over reddit-stratfor hitler
ascii_butugychag: and serious bushitler aficionados did hate !
ascii_butugychag: aha
ascii_butugychag: carl rove?
ascii_butugychag: dafuq is a perigord
ascii_butugychag: they are full of 'napoleons', but also there is always a reasonable number of 'glass pitchers', 'acorns', etc
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: true, perhaps all 'dark matter'
ascii_butugychag: how do 'triers' select who to 'try to be' anyway.
ascii_butugychag: how come nobody tried to be, e.g., paul erdos.
ascii_butugychag: there was reptilia...
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: no sign of it yet
ascii_butugychag: seriously if i wanted to repeatedly perform manual drudgery i would go and pick cotton somewhere.
ascii_butugychag: FUCK hitting an arrow more than once to traverse a block of whitespace
ascii_butugychag: i can't fathom using an editor without it
ascii_butugychag: can one get hungry-arrowkeys in vim ?
ascii_butugychag: though perhaps mircea_popescu could try and teach his pets elisp
ascii_butugychag: but if you have a unique itch somewhere deep in a body cavity, and wait for somebody to come and scratch it ~for you~ - you may wait for a while.
ascii_butugychag: works great.
ascii_butugychag: somebody wrote an 'infocom adventure' interpreter. my brother played a few gamez in it
ascii_butugychag: who wants to , can build whatever into emacs
ascii_butugychag: by farts
ascii_butugychag: (now that i think about it, i don't recall whether he said anything about tmsr-only. but this seems like an obvious thing)
ascii_butugychag: which - for extra bonus lulz - imho ought to take high-S only...
ascii_butugychag: the 'final solution' to the tx crud flood is, i suspect, mircea_popescu's concept of a tmsr-ONLY block-a-day mining pool
ascii_butugychag: ^ for the buffers thing
ascii_butugychag: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WindMove << possibly
ascii_butugychag: and i mus've tried 100+.
ascii_butugychag: BUT every alternative i ever tried made me want to eat a nagant.
ascii_butugychag: this being said, i fucking hate emacs and have been cursing it every day for my entire working life.
ascii_butugychag: either you contort yourself to fit the tool (the luserworld philosophy) or you bend the tool.
ascii_butugychag: i suspect that there is no getting away from this
ascii_butugychag: jurov: the traditional answer is 'if emacs does not behave as you like, write some elisp'
ascii_butugychag: jurov: common lisp in vim is hardcore masochism, far beyond my ability to endure
ascii_butugychag: jurov: please wake me up when you find a replacement for emacs !
ascii_butugychag: (after split)
ascii_butugychag: to iterate over the dir
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i had this problem with phuctor. ended up using python
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: 'split'
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: 'the spice must flow' (tm) (r) ('dune')
ascii_butugychag: Xplosionist: i suspected you might be the last one in that shop
ascii_butugychag: Xplosionist: $slavefarm implode yet ?
ascii_butugychag: hey Xplosionist !
ascii_butugychag bbl.
ascii_butugychag: a thiel catamite, a whole one, no less
ascii_butugychag: singul0l
ascii_butugychag: today with mr. today, tomorrow with mr. tomorrow, etc
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: aha, of course filled !
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: you understand that it also goes with fungibility, right ?
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377762 << it is how i see the role of the inventor. sex ad libitum goes with horde of offsprint, ~until doesn't~; being 50 goes with no longer able to read, until it doesn't; night goes with can't-make-the-slaves-work, until doesn't; etc
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: wai wut
ascii_butugychag: or hm, nm, i hallucinated it
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: s/plain/plane
ascii_butugychag: MingW32 << l0l!!
ascii_butugychag: waiting for an erring sapper
ascii_butugychag: and the only folks who'd show up would be the predatory lawyers
ascii_butugychag: none.
ascii_butugychag: idea went, unsurprisingly, nowhere
ascii_butugychag: i once tried to get a few american biochemists interested in a portable tox panel for mushrooms
ascii_butugychag: depends, again, what you're looking for (specific item, or general toxicology - which ~is~ undecidable)
ascii_butugychag: thing is, ascertaining anything useful about software is undecidable
ascii_butugychag: but i can't think of any reason why anyone should give a fuck re: the difference presently, so count me as sold
ascii_butugychag: seems like nobody grasped the actual point i was trying to make - where the provenance is a means to an end (clean tomato) rather than the end
ascii_butugychag: jurov: that would be hilariously stupid ?
ascii_butugychag: i can think of a few very gamma-backgroundy places where 'my folk lived 2400 y'
ascii_butugychag: but yes, discussion was ~specifically~ re: known adulterants
ascii_butugychag: circa 1990s
ascii_butugychag: uncle al had a piece on this
ascii_butugychag: was speaking of produce
ascii_butugychag: *pestilences
ascii_butugychag: but specific persilences
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: fortunately the question is never about the set of ~all possible~ things
ascii_butugychag: rather than the mere fact of which continent.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: but it is because of the cockroaches in her head
ascii_butugychag: mega-tech.
ascii_butugychag: aha the 'don't do it when actually horny' method
ascii_butugychag: jurov: it's a start.
ascii_butugychag: the whole point of engineering is to cut apart the happenstance-linked crud from what you actually want.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: try to understand the perspective of inventor. for x,xxx years churchmen prattled on about sex and reproduciton 'cannot cut apart'. and now they can go get stuffed.
ascii_butugychag: it - ordinarily - works.
ascii_butugychag: that's sorta what your mouth is for
ascii_butugychag: vs engineering limit
ascii_butugychag: that you cannot buy a ready instrument for this at the local hardware shop, is a political phenomenon
ascii_butugychag: jurov: detecting some of the more common adulterants is not hard at all
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i don't personally 'gm'. at least, not any more.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: it is my particular profession to make cuts in it.
ascii_butugychag: i happen to see reasoning about items glued together by happenstance as if they were intrinsically the same, as lame.
ascii_butugychag: if i could grep a tomato, they would be entirely cleavable.
ascii_butugychag: rather than philosophically.
ascii_butugychag: they are only uncleavables because of tech limitations
ascii_butugychag: does this make sense ?
ascii_butugychag: rather than the thing actually sought after
ascii_butugychag: and obviously we cannot dispense with provenance. but i must point out that it is a ~proxy~
ascii_butugychag: it would be regardless. because provenance guarantees nothing, the soil in which perfectly traditional tomato grew could have strontium, etc.
ascii_butugychag: who said 'every.'
ascii_butugychag: gc, ms, ir, nmr, etc
ascii_butugychag: take a spectrum.
ascii_butugychag: y'know, what dope aficionados do for dope
ascii_butugychag: iirc he specializes in this.
ascii_butugychag: perhaps i'll hire PeterL to do it.
ascii_butugychag: with a gc/ms ?
ascii_butugychag: i would.
ascii_butugychag: if it were possible to 'replicate' a prime grade tomato, for the cost of mains power, would you eat it ?
ascii_butugychag: think about it
ascii_butugychag: i'm not buying rembrandts
ascii_butugychag: provenance is a proxy for physical fact
ascii_butugychag: when all i care about is taste and poison - the latter is objectively quantifiable
ascii_butugychag: this is the other thing, why should i give A FUCK about PROVENANCE
ascii_butugychag: i'm talking about actual, vs. claimed.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: they sometimes ~claim~ to, and it tastes like shit
ascii_butugychag: which happens to be, afaik, true
ascii_butugychag: nah more like whining that one can't get 400 dpi panel except from crapple
ascii_butugychag: (except for when the farmer's market is in season)
ascii_butugychag: i can buy 'organic' veggies, but it is MANDATORILY in a shop that also sells homeopathic cures.
ascii_butugychag: or rather, starting with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260586
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i sure as fuck buy. but also understand that i am stuck paying for voodoo claptrap at the same time as the reduced poison, you cannot bid for them separately
ascii_butugychag: it necessarily appears. if not monsanto, then dow chemical, or somebody else.
ascii_butugychag: in that light monsanto is just a devil conjured up by the premise.
ascii_butugychag: the premise that 'we need cheaper, above all else, food, so that all may eat'
ascii_butugychag: as described in an old mircea_popescu article, it is from ~this premise~ that the other atrocities flow
ascii_butugychag: the purpose - cheap food at all costs.
ascii_butugychag: the ~end~ is evil.
ascii_butugychag: it would not especially matter if they had spiffy and reliable technology.
ascii_butugychag: *hysteria
ascii_butugychag: the other thing is that the 'gmo' hysterial supports an entire hipster pseudoindustry of 'organic'
ascii_butugychag: the automatic implication is that, e.g., tasteless tomatoes are a-ok so long as they are ~selectively bred~ for truck endurance rather than 'gmo'-d, for instance
ascii_butugychag: to frame the conversation as being particularly 'about genes' is a deliberate and carefully-constructed memetic gambit by monsanto et al
ascii_butugychag: i can't walk into a shop and buy 'gmo food', i can buy crud soaked in monsanto herbicide
ascii_butugychag: same issue there
ascii_butugychag: any and every time it is uttered.
ascii_butugychag: it is mendacious framing.
ascii_butugychag: mno.
ascii_butugychag: about as interesting a category as 'cryptocurrencies'
ascii_butugychag: again with 'gm food'
ascii_butugychag: and Saudi Arabia.' << wat