asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501991 << conjecture. the multiple flashes are reminiscent of recent ru 'igla', the one with dual warhead. and smart money would bet that this is not a ru rocket. ergo..
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 16:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501970 << you mean, coinbr. mpex is not part of this discussion, it's the changetip's bitcoin. so... get crackin' ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 15:28 mircea_popescu: seems more a case of "the reds are the only ones that remember a version of kissinger i approve of", which is fine and all, but... i've yet to see correct history in the heads of reds. so that might be a... RED flag right there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501990 << let's have the s333333kr1t, lovable kissinger ? can haz article ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 15:20 trinque: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-11/facebook-sued-for-1b-for-alleged-hamas-use-of-medium-for-terror << in other lol, the tortatron decides Facebook something something Hamas, give us a billion
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501987 << they could pay ... well, "pay" 25 bn for ~worthless watsapp to reallocate fiatola to favored son ; why shouldn't they pay i mean "pay" 1bn for ~worthless legal clai mto reallocate fiatola to the OTHER favoured son ? what, you mean the other favored son isn't favored ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 15:13 trinque: Hell, why don't they just keep them institutionalized throughout life? I'm sure I'm the first to think of this.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501986 << not a bad idea anyway! sets the stage nicely for http://trilema.com/2016/the-darkening/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501981 << the power of shitcoins : much like bitcoin makes everyone a bitcoiner, be they usg.nsa or whatever else, just so scamcoin makes everyone a scammer. they may start as "white hat" or "robin hood" or whatever, but in the end the dark nature of the item compels them.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 09:27 jurov: and btw, it's kettle calling the pot black, mpex hasn't fared much better
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501970 << you mean, coinbr. mpex is not part of this discussion, it's the changetip's bitcoin. so... get crackin' ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, the place for which cement is named, now has kids kicking holes in "walls" ?
mircea_popescu: "Police responded to a call about a child who was acting out, kicking holes in walls and punching doors." << everyone FROM portland should also be stabbed. in the eye!
mircea_popescu: "Guests at a local hotel requested police check on suspicious banging and thumping noises from an adjacent room. Officers found another guest who was simply unpacking." << people visiting portland should be fucking stabbed. seriously just how fucking bored do you need to be.
mircea_popescu: "A caller reported seeing a person in a rabbit costume oddly walking around. Police located the individual who was trying out a homemade wolf/dragon costume." o man these are fucking great :D
mircea_popescu: "poisoned" as in, the crazed bitches decided dude's slipping them roofies. because too much time spent on pokemedia.
mircea_popescu: from http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501947 "Two dancers claimed they were being poisoned by a regular customer at the club. Officers were informed by medical staff that there were no signs of poison and their symptoms may be caused by their diet."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501930 << lmao, methinks B as the galz call him will mature into a fine Bezos over the years.
mircea_popescu: elder knows. no, i'm not going to ban social media ; but do not expect there's any difference. from wikipedia to 9gag, they are all exactly the same thing, same material, same stuff.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 02:55 asciilifeform: because game with camera? these existed 5 yrs ago.
mircea_popescu: lest that anyone notices 3, how about some derivative usage or something. pre this game, "i got the biggest pic collection" said nobody ever. now, it's almost a point.
mircea_popescu: i can't see it as anything other than 1) phone cos keep pushing "snap everything", "capture the moment" blabla so 2) people take loads of pictures which 3) are never used for anything because they suck and who cares.
mircea_popescu: gotta remember, these "mass" items only aim to get a few cents out of each user, or somesuch. it is conceivable that they unlock a dime of value out of each derp's picture "collection", from which they can then extract two fiddy
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 02:32 ben_vulpes: trinque: nah, it's to get the millenials looking at something other than how easily cops are killed when they step out in public
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501905 << i really dun buy either theory. to me seems much lighter than that : finally ugc that could conceivably work, why spend money for background art for your game (most expensive, least impact) when you could just use luser's own (MASSIVE, NEVER reviewed) collection of snaps and perhaps even get a little residual value out of whatever value they may carry with him.
mircea_popescu: teh illuminati hood, brother.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Hello viewer am here to share my testimony on how I finally join the Illuminati hood and became rich, I tried all my possible best to become a member of the hood but I was scam several times"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 00:28 asciilifeform: wait till the derp learns that you can't parse parens with regexp...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501876 << this is impossible for them to learn. i've in time discovered regexp is absolutely the pons asinorum of computing.
mircea_popescu: it's pretty idiotic, but then again kinda lulzy...
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 00:27 asciilifeform: now for the gold, 'How have these trolls been able to hide harassment in plain sight? Partially because the ((())) symbol is difficult, if not impossible, for ordinary users to search for... If you try to search for "(((Last Name)))," Twitter's search engine strips the results of the parentheses'
mircea_popescu: seems more a case of "the reds are the only ones that remember a version of kissinger i approve of", which is fine and all, but... i've yet to see correct history in the heads of reds. so that might be a... RED flag right there.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 00:19 asciilifeform: the reds appear to be the ~only folk who even remember kissinger. ~everybody else has, evidently, the memory span of a goldfish
trinque: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-11/facebook-sued-for-1b-for-alleged-hamas-use-of-medium-for-terror << in other lol, the tortatron decides Facebook something something Hamas, give us a billion
trinque: Hell, why don't they just keep them institutionalized throughout life? I'm sure I'm the first to think of this.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: jurov: it's kettle calling the pot black, mpex hasn't fared much better << i guess this is what happens when options aren't an option, and the listed businesses take decades to monetize.
shinohai: Perhaps I was lampooning the state of Bitcoin at large.
jurov: and btw, it's kettle calling the pot black, mpex hasn't fared much better
shinohai: Oh i forgot to add "Sorry for your loss" at the end.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: did i wake up in '90s, or wat, why suddenly the interest in 'pokemon' << Surveillance tool for smartpnoHe
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] “Never, by God, I say, For my misdeed shall kinsmen hear the blame” - http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/11/never-by-god-i-say-for-my-misdeed-shall-kinsmen-hear-the-blame/
mats: which also takes buttcoins and i see nao that they've sponsored buttcointalk
ben_vulpes: ideally will leave both there
asciilifeform: 'Police received a call that a man was sitting by a tree and staring suspiciously at a local bank. The man was trying to get out of the rain.'
asciilifeform: 'A man stole a slab of ribs from a local market. The suspected rib-thief from the prior day was found, also in possession of meth and a stolen bicycle (but no ribs). During the arrest, the man allegedly head butted and dented the arresting officer's car.'
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i'm still waiting for the inevitable orc vs. police gamez.
ben_vulpes: well i installed it to see how much of the 'pokemon red' experience was replicated
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_Syndrome << Peter Pan Syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-houghton/the-peter-pan-syndrome_b_6127308.html << Peter Pan Syndrome | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puer_aeternus << Puer aeternus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ben_vulpes: 4/6 of the officefolk came in jabbering about it
ben_vulpes: millenials need something to do on their ipnohes other than read clickbait about cop killan
asciilifeform: perhaps BingoBoingo could open an 'aa' for thinking folk who find themselves redditing.
asciilifeform: because game with camera? these existed 5 yrs ago.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: did i wake up in '90s, or wat, why suddenly the interest in 'pokemon'
asciilifeform: to me, 'pia' is still that weird i/o chip in the commodore-64.
ben_vulpes: yes, the thing wants 700 on users google accounts
ben_vulpes: trinque: the *other* thing it's good for is harvesting "all-permission" google federated logins
ben_vulpes: it overlays a shitty 3d pokemodel over the video input
ben_vulpes: trinque: nah, it's to get the millenials looking at something other than how easily cops are killed when they step out in public
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 01:29 pete_dushenski: "The Russian Government has passed a new law that mandates that every provider must log all Russian internet traffic for up to a year. We believe that due to the enforcement regime surrounding this new law, some of our Russian Servers (RU) were recently seized by Russian Authorities, without notice or any type of due process. We think it’s because we are the most outspoken and only verified no-log VPN p
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501890 << hey, orcs are poor, they dun have a centralized bureau of packet log
trinque: ben_vulpes: that "game" serves two functions, cameras and mics on everywhere, and taking the state's pets for a walk. if it's pokemans, it's the n64 "snap" variety, but shittier.
ben_vulpes: what the ever loving f
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, "pokemon go" is missing the /core fucking pokemon interaction/
pete_dushenski: "The Russian Government has passed a new law that mandates that every provider must log all Russian internet traffic for up to a year. We believe that due to the enforcement regime surrounding this new law, some of our Russian Servers (RU) were recently seized by Russian Authorities, without notice or any type of due process. We think it’s because we are the most outspoken and only verified no-log VPN p
mod6: either way, a bit more work to do here.
mod6: anyway, it could be arragned both ways: 1. we hand out a bundle of makefiles - you make, you get a bitcoind. 2. you get V, you press your own thing, then you make the makefiles as you wish.
mod6: the latter would build the full orchastra, and i believe (although haven't tried yet) you can simply place boost, openssl, and bdb in the 'shit' directory by hand to avoid downloading of deps from a remote site.
mod6: One would have to either, pull down /just the makefiles/ and build .. OR pull V, sync against the mirror (or place patches in by hand), then press, then build the pressed dir (which also pulls patches depending on what is set in the makefiles themselves)
mod6: I'm currently in the process of V-ifiying these now. Which actually, passed one test just fine.
mod6: shinohai: im also running the new V99994 build script with the updated openssl url now actually. as well, the makeflies (the original ones from trinque) work as long as it contains the updates that I put in for the lastest versoin of V.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 00:26 mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 'curl -s http://openssl.org/source/old/1.0.1/openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz' << weren't we gonna stop doing this ? << didja read the SoBA?
asciilifeform: 'Twitter declined to address why the symbol is unsearchable on its platform, if a hate-speech filter would detect it or if the company plans to categorize the symbol as hate speech at all.'
asciilifeform: wait till the derp learns that you can't parse parens with regexp...
asciilifeform: 'Twitter needs better tools to curb hate speech' << the crescendo, in linked turd.
mod6: so, trust me, as soon as I have something, you'll be the first to know.
asciilifeform: now for the gold, 'How have these trolls been able to hide harassment in plain sight? Partially because the ((())) symbol is difficult, if not impossible, for ordinary users to search for... If you try to search for "(((Last Name)))," Twitter's search engine strips the results of the parentheses'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 'curl -s http://openssl.org/source/old/1.0.1/openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz' << weren't we gonna stop doing this ? << didja read the SoBA?
asciilifeform: words, the supposed damage caused by Jewish people reverberates from decade to decade.'
asciilifeform: 'The symbol comes from right-wing blog the Right Stuff, whose podcast The Daily Shoah featured a segment called "Merchant Minute" that gave Jewish names a cartoonish "echo" sound effect when uttered. The "parenthesis meme," as Right Stuff editors call it, is a visual pun. In Right Stuff propaganda, you'll often read that Jewish names "echo." According to the blog's lexicon page, "all Jewish surnames echo throughout history." In other
asciilifeform: supremacist tweeted, "It's closed captioning for the Jew-blind."'
asciilifeform: 'In the early days of the social web, putting someone's name in multiple parentheses was meant to give that person a cute virtual hug. Today, it's something far more sinister. Neo-Nazis, anti-Semites and white nationalists have begun using three sets of parentheses encasing a Jewish surname — for instance, (((Fleishman))) — to identify and target Jews for harassment on blogs and major social media sites like Twitter. As one white
asciilifeform: in other gut-busting lulz, https://mic.com/articles/144228/echoes-exposed-the-secret-symbol-neo-nazis-use-to-target-jews-online
asciilifeform: the reds appear to be the ~only folk who even remember kissinger. ~everybody else has, evidently, the memory span of a goldfish
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 23:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, "Medea Benjamin is the co-founder of the peace group CODEPINK and the human rights organization Global Exchange. She is the author of eight books, including " bla bla ?
mircea_popescu: mats ah is the first two lights some sort of chaff ?
mircea_popescu: three shoulder fired rockets was it ? only went down once it lost the tail
mats: looks like they deployed countermeasures
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron reading through that love page you linked, the guy's pretty innovative.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, "Medea Benjamin is the co-founder of the peace group CODEPINK and the human rights organization Global Exchange. She is the author of eight books, including " bla bla ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck linked that codepink crap
mircea_popescu: in all fairness the garbage service here is pretty quiet.
mircea_popescu: "we need prayers". you don't need fucking prayers, you need to go the fuck away already.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what do you mean "jesus is god". when did the entire son of god thing go away ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 21:10 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501715 << actually, from my reading of the official documentation, you can be denied simply for being "too similar" to other existing churches
pete_dushenski: then 'tesla co-founder' doesn't actually address the problem that needed addressing. i guess we should be awed and surprised.
asciilifeform: garbage truck will sound quite the same whether powered by diesel, fusor, or virgin tears.
pete_dushenski: the engines aren't quiet though. but probably the most egregious noise polluters are the bins themselves
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you're hearing the hydraulics
pete_dushenski: https://www.wired.com/2016/07/tesla-co-founder-making-electric-garbage-trucks-jet-tech-not/ << ok this actually makes a fair bit of sense. i can't be the only one who's doodled their 'dream garbage truck' on the inside cover of their notebook after being woken up at 6am to the sounds of bin clanging and diesel engine revving
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i was thinking of 'the young woman who, in the undressing room of Crematorium II at Auschwitz-Birkenau grabbed an SS officer’s pistol and shot two guards, killing one of them before herself being killed'
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: looking into it, you mighta been right about the adblue scam. the 2.0l engines were the first to be called out for cheating emissions tests and they don't have the piss tanks, but the 3.0l engines were later called out and they ~did~
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Qntra just recently got a weather category and Uber driver seems to have been boring
asciilifeform: 'The American Jail Association (AJA) is the leading industry organization exclusively focused on supporting the professionals who staff and operate our nation's jails.'
trinque: they happen so often who can keep up
asciilifeform: 'The courthouse is located about 50 miles west of Kalamazoo, where an Uber driver killed six people in a shooting spree earlier this year.' << lel, did we miss this gem ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: is in the l0gz, somewhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 20:46 pete_dushenski: has been for ~decade. the 'non-advanced' ones w/o piss tanks in trunk were the ones that needed to cheat nox emissions standards
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501746 << iirc it was discovered that they all cheat, and the piss tank was a deliberate smoke'n'mirror sham.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 21:10 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501715 << actually, from my reading of the official documentation, you can be denied simply for being "too similar" to other existing churches
pete_dushenski: shinohai: nah they'd just blow it on catnip and balls of yarn
trinque: hell I'll make it 9%, undercut those other gods
trinque: I am happy to be the God of any that require one. Please send your 10% tithe to deedbot's address.
pete_dushenski: actually the similarities are striking.
pete_dushenski: like theranos!
trinque: "christian science" entertains the shit out of me
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: were your parents' parents atheists as well ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 20:35 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501676 << what's with all the focus on jesus with this guy anyway ? i don't recall exactly where he actually said jesus when meaning god, but in any case god is certainly fucking proud. he says so!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 20:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501659 << yeah seriously, what was wrong with them ? too white ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 19:49 pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: not like i'd expect you to agree. more just tossing around armchair analysis. at the end of the day, most men want to die in the religion of their fathers.
pete_dushenski: has been for ~decade. the 'non-advanced' ones w/o piss tanks in trunk were the ones that needed to cheat nox emissions standards
mircea_popescu adds line to his absent social media profiles, "i can't be bothered to re-read this, and besides it's running on my piss anyway"
mircea_popescu: that's the important part, fucking urea solution, recast as "your pee!!!". not the rest. that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501706 << but it works "on your pee". the bottle's just a hidden externality! hidden in plain sight!
mircea_popescu: the crazy obama's pastor fellow
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 20:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501659 << yeah seriously, what was wrong with them ? too white ?
pete_dushenski: i see that. thus, girl's father pays ~me~ to take her off his hands
mircea_popescu: follow the logic : women are not allowed productive outlets. therefore, they're either supported or starve. if you don't want her to starve, you'll support her. to support her she has to live in your house, this isn't a dhl land. for a woman to live in your house, she'd better be married to you. therefore...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501687 a) marriage there doesn't mean what you think it does (it's a welfare-for-women arrangement) ; b) they didn't consumate it till much later.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501682 << much like geting a mormon to admit john smith was an invidious peasant who lifted what he could from the bible.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501676 << what's with all the focus on jesus with this guy anyway ? i don't recall exactly where he actually said jesus when meaning god, but in any case god is certainly fucking proud. he says so!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 19:26 asciilifeform: as witnessed by the half dozen perfectly-conventional protestant churches whose licenses were yanked by obummer.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501659 << yeah seriously, what was wrong with them ? too white ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.downvids.net/cute-tot-learns-to-spell-and-read-845614.html << in other 'teaching kids letters but not words' news
asciilifeform: (it runs on the dripping fat)
asciilifeform: can remove the now-useless comments.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: not like i'd expect you to agree. more just tossing around armchair analysis. at the end of the day, most men want to die in the religion of their fathers.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 19:20 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501031 << no, that'd be the moslems. newest is bestest is truest! or else oldest. middle doesn't really factor, nor can it.
pete_dushenski: http://e360.yale.edu/feature/insect_numbers_declining_why_it_matters/3012/#.V4ODWx4LMi0.twitter << gogogadget monocultural farming! fucking travesty the likes of which we have no conceivable way of measuring the consequences of.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:39 mircea_popescu: understand : the crime is never to have done so-and-so concrete item ; but to have done it WHILE DRESSED IN THE WRONG SHIRT.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501241 << 'Why, then, ’tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison.' (hamlet) (tm) (r)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:22 asciilifeform: 'So basically the LIGO team is admitting to publishing a manipulated final result and no real exact means for anyone outside of the LIGO project to duplicate it. It also appears the team tried to bolster and perhaps even justify their reporting of this highly questionable second event by including a third one they had previously dismissed.'
pete_dushenski: then again, big space, how'd one know (or care)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: aha. it is the contractor army that is unusual.
trinque: yeah because hard, but that's the road
asciilifeform: unique in being the sole 20th c. example.
trinque: how's that unique; that seems to be the only road towards "actual church" that works
asciilifeform: and is famous for successfully infiltrating fbi, rather than getting its ducks in a line legalistically.
asciilifeform: as witnessed by the half dozen perfectly-conventional protestant churches whose licenses were yanked by obummer.
pete_dushenski: 'togetherness', etc.
pete_dushenski: other abstraction ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: no, i caught that part. just didn't see the bearing.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 13:50 danielpbarron: Christians are the true Jews
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501031 << no, that'd be the moslems. newest is bestest is truest! or else oldest. middle doesn't really factor, nor can it.
mircea_popescu: you missed the part where he was doing some research.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 13:46 danielpbarron: that is a contradiction, at least according to the US legal definition -- a church is literally a "place of worship"
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501013 << what the shit kind of bearing on any conversation of consequence could us 'legal' definition have ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: it's not JUST that websites masquerading as "business" and purporting to sell for "billions" notwithstanding they wouldn't gather bids worth 80 btc in an open market a la linkedin, watsap and so on.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 13:43 mircea_popescu: but these are different concerns. i dunno how it runs, but i don't think there's customarily some guy in the church extolling aa is there ?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501003 << Typically all the church does is rent out the basement
pete_dushenski: "Before releasing the lobsters, the monks held a 20-minute ceremony with a prayer and chant to the Buddha of compassion. Dan said you don't have to have a ceremony or be a Buddhist to practice compassion to be nicer to all the living beings around you and try to think from their point of view." << be nice to the other crabs in the bucket mkay
pete_dushenski: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-monks-free-lobsters-1.3672032 << speaking of misguided mitzvot (but aren't they all ?)
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-10#1500694 << i'm probably top 3 in the west, but there's not really that many people in the saskabushian and surrounding prairies
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Seal_of_the_United_States_Strategic_Command.svg << this has got to be the world's worst kludge of a visual design.
Framedragger: the excluded ranges for anyone curious: http://95.85.10.71:8000/all/blacklist.conf.txt (the ones before "# temporary" are default for masscan, based on ipv4 reserved ranges from IANA)
Framedragger: will be interesting to later also look how many of the originally-online nodes were down in this new rescan, and how many new ones appeared (i.e. when hetzner ranges are removed).
Framedragger: (i.e. i had originally planned to re-scan those hetzner ranges and include them in the original tarball, but ended up postponing that.)
Framedragger: from rescan of ipv4, from 'untainted' ip addresses. the ">1M" is due not only to rescan itself, but also because i had excluded ipv4 ranges for hetzner which had been sending tons of abuse complaintz. i can handle those complaints now. but i had forgotten about exclusion of hetzner ssh hosts. the new tarball will fix this (it won't include any old ssh keys, only new ones).
Framedragger: and while on topic, there'll be another tarball soon asciilifeform - considerably smaller, but still > 1M
Framedragger: trinque: re. "ssh ones are a bit long." << yeah you're right, need to shorten them..
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo feel free to fix the links in my original comment
asciilifeform: lel, these urls are cut off.
trinque: asciilifeform: I'm just paraphrasing you from other threads, CPU^H^H^Hphysics might be hundreds of years from here.
trinque imagines a rat who can smell the cheese, gets stuck in a dead end of the maze adjacent, never goes around the other way, starves.
mircea_popescu: either one, but not any third.
mircea_popescu: looky, the question is a) entirely unrelated to the discussion and b) not substantially different from "what should the senior washington official stabbed to death have done".
asciilifeform: because they did not vanish, no.
asciilifeform: 'where they cut off yer lips, 'cause they don't like yer smile!111' -- disney's 'aladin'
asciilifeform: (because orcs are simple folk and this was the easiest thing to do)
mircea_popescu: i give ~no thought to this entire "prevented from doing", much like the typically female "you made me do" dun enter into my thoughts.
mircea_popescu: what i'm discussing is your very bizarre stance whereby "the hero is prevented from saving world by park maid".
asciilifeform: well this re 'let's have coffee and gossip about that asshole who's the reason i can't do all the good things'
mircea_popescu: i am not even discussing the schwartz fellow at all, i dun really know him.
asciilifeform: but you gotta remember that fella is old enough that it was not yet a mousetrap when he made the commitment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu can laugh at schwartz for being the sort of fool who lands in the mousetrap where adelbergers matter to begin with;
mircea_popescu: the word doesn't exist in english, but it's a "filosofie a ratarii", a fuckup's mindset.
mircea_popescu: and consequently, it becomes less a matter of "how my cryustals grow" and more a mattrer of "let's have coffee and gossip about that asshole who's the reason i can't do all the good things for humanatee".
mircea_popescu: they all without exception stem from inflated vanity, which is to say a contradiction between the individual's own sense of worth and the apparent or discerned valuation by "society", somehow defined.
mircea_popescu: there's more to that "adolescent business fantasy" than just that, money. there's also an "imaginary womenz and sexings" thing ; there's also a "great ideas in my great idea binder" etc.
asciilifeform: ... perhaps ~some~ idea, see the adelberger thread, he wanted a formal capitulation from the enemy, and knew that he would never get it
asciilifeform: i have no fucking idea what the man's problem was.
asciilifeform: he even had the benzyl crystals mostly grown.
asciilifeform: at the time i even had access to the necessary calorimeter. so it would not have even been the 50k.
mircea_popescu: this being the main problem with "idea people", theoretical physicists or otherwise. "oh, i see over the fence" "get lost"
mircea_popescu: no, no. you want to talk about neglected science being both valid and useful, there's only one way to do this : do.
asciilifeform: mile-long queue to even get on the pig. or at least what original thread was.
mircea_popescu: fuck or get off the pig.
asciilifeform: it is not enough for the fence to 'not be too tall'
asciilifeform: it tends to annoy the folks who do see.
asciilifeform: but it is very easy to say 'tall stair!' when ~you personally~ don't see over the fence.
mircea_popescu: seriously, it "just so happened" that the next thing to discover was within reach ? EVERY time ? get fucked already.
mircea_popescu: (of all the perverse reasons to consider the whole adventure is a set-up, such as, look how convenient that it so happens water is a) universal solvent ; b) very high caloric capacity - life'd be not quite possible without either, nor is there good reason for them to match up, not anymore than for the euler equation at any rate : the science progression is one of the best
mircea_popescu: in point of fact we're flat against a tall stair, and so i don't expect much either way.
mircea_popescu: just like computing in the sense of "ima hack my cpu together out of sawdust" is gone ; physics will require forevermore rather expensive tools.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even the first to observe this, by a good century.
mircea_popescu: anyway. dunno that the us is a significant actor in physics, or in general any science these days. they withdrew to "engineering" in the 70s, and then moved on to wtf they do now, "Social sciences", gave the engineering to the azns.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the conversation flew as "alf: X NONSENSE STATEMENT!!!! PROBLEM ?" "mp: history doth not support" reiteraded numerous times. eventually it tires.
asciilifeform: i don't even have any reason to think that the chart accurately depicts the ~tax-paying~ folk.
mircea_popescu: 5k, 10k, 15k, 250k and over. o look, there's more in this "250k or over" than in the average 5k increment! could it be because it contains i dunno, 111`864 increments ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~noise. nobody counts, or could count, the mexicans, or the dope dealers, et al.
mircea_popescu: i wonder, if they continued with the same increments all the way to 100mn, would it look the same way ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, look how discrepant the data we manipulated to look exactly this way is!"
mircea_popescu: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Bzgz2jor9cn_WQDk3LvoRJT-mfSAF8C4eMCxBJJn_eZmBfSlJGRKO_MYRWFB8hAyorawr7SakiPiPJms5a-ZM1zxHN-MoHVrCahPnfupaIIg6K0jsIXpPcXKwA << these utter fucktards with their "statistics" and assorted pseudoscience bullshit.