ben_vulpes: on the topic of pointing and laughing, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497751 << phf would you be so kind as to share what you did to your wp-content/themes/comments.php to get past the "stale comments" thinger?
trinque: I'm gonna test this guy more tomorrow and add message splitting to the first one, then probably sign.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1516222 << not sure. I'm thinking maybe we stop fighting cruft and fire you up one of these: http://deedbot.org/v/ircbot-genesis.vpatch http://deedbot.org/v/logbot-genesis.vpatch
BingoBoingo: Not like it gets up and walks away with the seekrits
mircea_popescu: and in other camping news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/e1ab922ac8ba3ee0c2fcfecb6719765b/tumblr_nfdfce7Z5V1t8o22bo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: "The search for the reason behind the declining PCU in EVE Online continues." << how about "the game fucking sucks".
mircea_popescu: yeah well. they were a major yahoo sorta thing, years ago. aol-owned outfit.
mircea_popescu: "Today, on February 3rd, 2015, Massively.com ends." << the "internet" in the sense of "world wide web" contracts right on schedule.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is with these people.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Detroitiscrap.com finally shut down. - Niggermania.NET" << apparently there was a detroit lafond.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: liberation of the dogs ??
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the uncensored, full-length version of shannon's otp paper was released only in 2013 !
asciilifeform: cryptography is a 'meat market' where, after sobering up, one notices that 100% of the 'girls' are actually pigs.
asciilifeform: afaik we do not have any theoretical support whatsoever for the strength of any known hash algo.
asciilifeform: (the depressing part is that the way it ~is~ established, is claude shannon's otp paper, and it happened exactly ONCE, afaik, to date.)
mircea_popescu: i do. but it is how people are enticed to read code , and think about what they read.
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that 'hash research' is presently not even yet at alchemy level, and stuck somewhere between haruspicy and astrology.
mircea_popescu: either an ashole or an idiot. but in any case if oyu don't like it you can get stuffed. bitbet pays for miner cartelisation detection and minigame pays for hash research and so on and so forth.)
mircea_popescu: (and for the governance-minded log reader : yeah, the above is literally me in my capacity as ceo making a strategic choice that puts the best interest of shareholders second, after the interest of the republic. it literally subsidizes republican research at the expense of s.mg's bottom line. not only is this common in my practice - i hold it to be both required and unavoidable, and if "that's not how you'd run a corp" you're
mircea_popescu: ie, it'd be silly to correctly engineer this system in the sense of minimalism, as we're more interested in it testing our tools.
mircea_popescu: there's also a subtle point here, which is : that if we indeed use a otp-and-hash scheme, this in fact puts whatever hash scheme we use to work.
mircea_popescu: anyway : the rsa/otp scheme is also bw-wasting, up to a factor of 2 if no hashing, or otherwise depending on how many hash passes, with 20 it's just 1.05 ie 5% more bw etc.
asciilifeform: i'ma put this in the pipe.
asciilifeform: the only aspect of rsa that actually takes palpable time on a modern box is key gen.
mircea_popescu: yeah there are some advantages. but half second is too much to delay a game message for encryption, and you won't be able to fit two passes in .5 s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'rsa the actual message back and forth' << not same. for instance, if you have the pump going at all times, it can be cache-local.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand that if you never hash them, you might as well not use them at all and simply rsa the actual message back and forth. as appealing as the idea is in theory, it's not workable in practice because even with a game as relaxed as eulora, it'll still be too laggy.
mircea_popescu: PeterL reusing an otp straight makes bothering with the whole scheme kinda pointless ; hashing an old otp to generate a new otp is perhaps dubious, but in widespread use. (it's more or less what a "deterministic" wallet is, for instance)
PeterL: Anybody else watch olympic opening ceremony? There was about a minute of fun brazillian dancing and hours of boringness and a stupid tribute to global warming. Bleh.
asciilifeform: which is then tapped into when actually sending payloads.
asciilifeform: PeterL: mircea_popescu's original suggestion was to transfer properly random messages, via rsa, continuously, thereby keeping a supply of otp warm on both sides
PeterL: ok, nevermind then
PeterL: would be better than just reusing the one otp over a bunch of times?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-06 14:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's your call, because the matter is quite acute : is it a safer system to demand 8kb entropy/second and hash 12 times ? or to demand say 128bytes/second and hash 768 times ?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1515904 << idea: transfer random series a and b of length A and B where A and B are co-prime, session key is the series {(a[i%A] XOR b[i%B]) for i in [0, AxB]}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, gotta make sure one expropriates the socialists in the proper manner such is done. ie, as they themselves do it.
mircea_popescu: the principle is fundamental to any such activity. the usg will obviously still owe on all its obligations, such as social security. it will however not have any right to perceive any income. and anyone involved is personally responsible - with their own fat, personally - of the exact execution of this.
asciilifeform: we have this right here in usaschwitz, if house confiscated as part of 'dope warz' (requires no conviction in any court) chumper ~also~ gets to keep the mortgage.
mircea_popescu: anyway, by the workings of that thing, if you took out a loan + mortgage to buy a house ; the house did go on to be owned by X, but you kept the mortgage.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, bucharest scarcely accounted for a fifth of the country's real estate ; and most of it was shit anyway when compared with the 3-5 century old stuff in transylvania.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform judging by the fact that 99% of it is bucharest, it's entirely certain they were picked by personal invidy.
mircea_popescu: perhaps notable for the device : a) the ~rights~ without any encumberances of real estate named goes on to new owner ; b) anyone currently living there is now renting from new owner, no matter what title they thought they had ; c) anyone fucking with this gets 10 years hard labour.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how were the particular kulaks picked ?
mircea_popescu: in perhaps related, perhaps interesting to amateur historian sources, here's the 1950 act that confiscated various houses of "the enemies of the regime" in Romania : http://www.juris.ro/legislatie-detaliu/DECRET-nr-92-din-19-aprilie-1950-pentru-nationalizarea-unor-imobile/
mircea_popescu: they also have a rule about bombing rogue states that steal $5bn out of people's wealth to pay cronies.
asciilifeform: meant to say, vermin linked to mircea_popescu's article ? dun they have a rule against this?!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : hano bock (the deceitful shitbag) drives slightly less traffic via his twitter / t.co/bcrxVsVoe5 than phuctor does via its faq page.
asciilifeform: in other noose, krebs ( http://krebsonsecurity.com ) has definitely been awake since i wrote to him (he has new material on his site) but never answered re phuctor/khadeer/etc.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm somewhat puzzled that NOBODY said a single word re new trilema header.
mircea_popescu: that's the dod, dude.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the pretence that "it's not because we're poor, it's because of the sandbugs" is ENTIRELY rural belle ego protection and naught else.
mats: yes, i also heard about the silly string
mats: NCOs would routinely get fucked and have to cover out of pocket because the vouchers wouldn't clear fast enough
mats: also endemic problems with the travel system and reimbursements
mircea_popescu: add in all the various tax and "education" easements + medical care etc.
asciilifeform: mats: i'd be rather surprised if missing $T had anything to do with soldiers' pay.
mats: i am not surprised DFAS is fucked up, i'd guess 1 in 10 soldiers see pay issues during their enlistment
mats: 'Not even the ones managed and attented* by ethically* Asian people' << is this intentional or?
asciilifeform found that it is ~impossible to visit a museum of whatever kind in washington, or beach in delaware/md coast, without hearing spoken ru in the crowd at least once
phf: eh, i'm not too worried about it, i'm playing "spot the eastern european" game at the ocean city board walk. tall check, skinny check, fit check, not surrounded by 4 bros check. there are some easy matches though. fat +100 to american. not busted, but with a black guy +100 slav.
mircea_popescu: it's literally, "fail" read out by the wodewick roman guy
trinque: phf: probably better to just get sasl in there
mircea_popescu: in other "stripping the special chars" news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/71c2bce1b57d44d510457fed3c2b1369/tumblr_mk9bnxQdqN1rni6rao1_400.gif
phf: paster ates them
phf: trinque: so your bot has a bunch of string matches for things that come back from nickserv, but they are all stripped of special characters. like "nick has been ghosted." what i get back is "^Anick^A has been ghosted." is that some setting i'm missing? or something else?
mircea_popescu: sooo, is lybia going to bomb the us now, to put obama in a cage, and hang himlater, while "giving a chance to democracy" in that country ?
asciilifeform: rding to the Reuters investigation.'
asciilifeform: '...employees of the DFAS were routinely told by superiors to take “unsubstantiated change actions” commonly referred to as “plugging” the numbers. These “plugs” – which amounted to falsifying financial records – were then used to create the appearance that the military’s financial data matched that of the U.S. Treasury Department’s numbers when discrepancies in the financial data couldn’t be accounted for, acco
mircea_popescu: funny thing being, at the time i was running a sort of digg (well, much better, but anyway) in romanian, and people could actually cash out, via btc. a few did, not massive sums at the time, but massive sums in btc.
shinohai: i always miss these opportunities to make easy BTC, i knew that one xD
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, check out how people made 1 btc back in 2012 : http://trilema.com/2012/visual-culture-test-the-naked-woman/#comment-90759
mircea_popescu: what i do dun excuse the localtards, though.
deedbot: [Trilema] My Rather Sad Breakfast, or Fuck You "Smart Food Company SRL" and Fuck You "Industria Argentina". - http://trilema.com/2016/my-rather-sad-breakfast-or-fuck-you-smart-food-company-srl-and-fuck-you-industria-argentina/
ben_vulpes: oh sorry am i distracting from the fiddy cents of btc bitfinex lost?
ben_vulpes: man the weak shit on display
ben_vulpes: the thing features stock photos of leo from the movie and the obligatory noble j-school ho
mircea_popescu: according to documents seen by mp, the guardian publishes anything for a double hamburger.
ben_vulpes: actually greenwald schmeenwald you backed *anyone* who suggested the use of anything other than RSA.
ben_vulpes: and you're the guaaaardian you backed greenwald gtfo
mircea_popescu: aww, you don't take the agitprop at face value, terrorist ?
ben_vulpes: bitch shut the fuck up or publish
ben_vulpes: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/1mdb-inside-story-worlds-biggest-financial-scandal-malaysia << the spin continues
a111: Logged on 2016-08-08 02:01 BingoBoingo: And the water eggogs out
mod6: i tried the -i, ignore garbage, during my earlier tour ; didn't seem to do what i hoped.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-08 02:15 mod6: because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary.
mod6: will update the V99994 script and start a new test cycle.
mod6: alright, got a way to grab what's between the header & footer with sed:
BingoBoingo: In other "bathroom and too many dollars are getting printed lulz" a product exists called "bluetooth speaker bathroom fan with led light" intended to be installed as your bathroom's exhaust fan...
mod6: sorry for the noise.
mod6: if you get rid of the 'begin-base64 ...' line and the ending '====', then you can use base64 to decode, no problem.
mircea_popescu: aite then
mod6: so anyway, lemme see if i can get this working the way I wanted with base64, i must be doing something wrong here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ? << good question. i think you might just be able to armor.
mircea_popescu: and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ?
mircea_popescu: {This blob is so and so : [then large pile of stuff]}signed
mod6: As I understood, we didn't wanna use that becuse one wouldn't be able to read the disclaimer or the "begin-base64 644 <FILENAME>" to see what the deed actually contained
mircea_popescu: ok. and i recall they were getting a header or is this something else ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> im still lost on "one could not tell what thing it contained". << when discussed & shown, they are large signed/armored files. (with `gpg --armor --sign`)
mod6: <+mod6> because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary. << maybe im doing something wrong here.
mod6: i mean, it does say: 'begin-base64 664 openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz' at the beginning of the encoding.
mod6: tbh, i thought that base64 and uuencode/uudecode did the same thing.
mod6: because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary.
BingoBoingo: And the water eggogs out
BingoBoingo: Also gotta avoid the temptation to use pipe wrench when installing supply side threaded anything.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> Then look on the bright side. Any plumbing project where you didn't have to worry about where to put the water after you use it isn't so bad. << naw, certainly could have been worse.
mod6: no worries. will make some changes and come back for another round of testing this week.
mod6: so instead of using uudecode for this process, I'll have to reconfigure the script to use base64 looks like.
mod6: but when it came down to it, she hit another error; her Ubuntu 10.04 test environment doesn't have `sharutils', a package that contains uuencode/uudecode. which is what V99994 is using to decode the deedified dependencies from deedbot.
mod6: ok: update on hanbot's test. she was able to clear the previous error.
BingoBoingo: Then look on the bright side. Any plumbing project where you didn't have to worry about where to put the water after you use it isn't so bad.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, impact trauma is the enemy of tempered glasses
BingoBoingo: And supply the faucet etc
BingoBoingo: mod6: You remove it and you caulk the new one in
mod6: but the drainpipe/trap, etc were fine.
mircea_popescu: in the same spirit, http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/#comment-115108
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mod6> this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink. << Wait the drainpipe was fine? WHat was the problem? << the ceramic basin was completely shattered.
BingoBoingo: I forget how to prefix the internet coinz
BingoBoingo: Or is the text thing 8=====D...... :) 1000
BingoBoingo: ANd then Gox finally kicked it a few months later
BingoBoingo: The press releases were $1000 or whatever
mircea_popescu: back when noobs still had dust, so his ~100 btc or w/e it was made a huge splash in the "community".
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> digging up through ancient trilemaz, http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-93298 << AHA, Outputs.io!
BingoBoingo: <mod6> this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink. << Wait the drainpipe was fine? WHat was the problem?
mircea_popescu: digging up through ancient trilemaz, http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-93298
hanbot: i had the same problem with V99994, ftr i suspect it's a user permissions issue as when i try to manually check that sig against the vpatch gpg complains it can't open the file (and that particular patch was just alphabetically first, ergo not special)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-07#1516914 << what's new in the new ver ? << this one (V99994) pulls the deps from deedbot that were deedified last month.
mod6: <+davout> figured moving to the south wasn't enough, so i've settled on mauritius << nice! wow is that pretty.
mod6: this all started when the cat knocked off a heavy candle decaration off a high shelf, came down and shattered the pedestal sink.
mod6: The sink is finished & installed ohmahgerd.
hanbot: so mod6 asciilifeform ben_vulpes & etc, i was testing the wrong derned thing (V99995), switching to the V99994 actually requested nao. did have asciilifeform's 01ABFFC7 key, artifact for anyone interested: http://dpaste.com/2J85RB5
shinohai: we can put the blockchain on excel spreadsheets ... smart contracts!
mircea_popescu: only the best fbi case solving happens with excel spreadsheets!
mircea_popescu: quick, someone tell the businessmen with cumulative years of experience about the excel spreadsheets! don't let inferior tooling happen to you!
shinohai: in other not news "FBI working with bitfinex on case"
mircea_popescu: you know each other ?
shinohai: oh mircea_popescu chic from a few nights ago said thank you for the bitcoin, she loved it.
mircea_popescu: aaaand in other mouths, http://66.media.tumblr.com/cefd1705c517db89872139e077acb520/tumblr_nfvxp3hQhl1rrckn7o1_500.gif
ben_vulpes: first time in months, in the midafternoon
ben_vulpes: in other news i am taking babymomma on A DATE!!1
ben_vulpes: you can see that this is the issue you're running into if you run gpg --verify thinger.vpatch thinger.vpatch.sig (or w/e the inane order is)
ben_vulpes: the autobuilder has three keys mentioned at the top that need to live in the keyring used when you run gpg -k
asciilifeform: (ripped off the old motors, cabling, misc crud)
asciilifeform: (and they all have same fp.)
asciilifeform: this is the correct key mod6 .
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 18:29 shinohai: hanbot: i simply changed the hash to match :P
shinohai: hanbot: i simply changed the hash to match :P
hanbot: so in V99995 testing, it'd seem the asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig is "invalid", i imagine 'cause of something to do with stan's old key? and deedbot only spits the current, which i have. i don't see the old one on btcalpha either, anyone have an idea fo' me?
davout: doubtful, but would be lulzy nonetheless
mircea_popescu: o jesus, don't tell me the new bitbet management decided to you know, eschew bitcoin-handling problems by... holding their money over at bitfinex.
mats: eh? the walk in got killed?
asciilifeform: there is no (c).
a111: Logged on 2015-03-27 01:04 asciilifeform: i think he means 'he led the nsa device catalogue leaker to his anthill death'
asciilifeform: to continue associating with greenwald et al after the demise of the fella who leaked the catalogue ( http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-27#1073554 etc ) he has to be a) idiot b) shill
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: NFI, If existed probably grave error of trusting it to the evil Greenvald was made
asciilifeform: t would be much better to find ways to get better communicate with the Foundation so we can stay on the same page. It’s not going to be easy for the Foundation to repair its image with the Bitcoin community, but they seem intent on trying.'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: from the alleged tat blog: 'I had a chat with Bruce Fenton, of the Bitcoin Foundation, where I thanked him for representing Bitcoin well in his television interviews, as the media swarmed around the Craig Wright announcements yesterday. While we have many things to criticize the Foundation for, and Bruce himself in some regards, I was tipsy enough to realize that we can’t just keep writing off their efforts, and that i
davout: not like the kind that'll steal your photo camera if you don't pay attention
davout: nah, i was driving through some forest, it just crossed the road
asciilifeform: davout: in places, they are quite sparsely populated.
davout: i thought you lived in the suburbs of washington dc?
asciilifeform: the kind that trashes houses in india ?
asciilifeform: other wildlife, also.
davout: it's pretty nice here, i hear frogs and can actually see the stars!
mircea_popescu: never felt the effect myself.
mircea_popescu: yeah im surprised there isn't pot smog over ba.
davout: mircea_popescu: when i was in bsas i could pretty much smell pot on every corner of the street, here not even once, kinda surprising
mircea_popescu: instead of burning the city down, the she-cows huddle around with their mothers throughout adolescence, dressed in retard apparel ; while the he-cows smoke immense amounts of pot and wash it down with gallons of mate.
mircea_popescu: anyway - they also ~all smoke pot. which is the fucking nuttery of the age, you should see the ba derps.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: americans take synthetic opium of 1,01 types, add'em up, get quite likely more than 1%.
davout: drugs seem to be a big deal there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform us as well as most "sane" places are in the 0.1 range
asciilifeform: iirc it has 'territorial dispute' with the english also ?
mircea_popescu: course... kinda close to the us base
davout: so far it seems like a pretty peaceful place, compare the stuff that makes the newspaper to what does in yurp: http://www.lexpress.mu/article/286927/quatre-bornes-pradeep-roopun-porte-plainte-pour-vol-legumes
mircea_popescu: yeah, about the lease.
davout: i'm staying one year at least, more if i like it, or were you asking about the lease?
davout: i'm renting a 3 bedroom house, with a pool, for like the ~750 eur/month
davout: they're like ridiculously taxed for some reason
davout: asciilifeform: excellent, they're deploying fiber pretty much everywhere
asciilifeform: davout: how's the bandwidth ?
davout: from what i've seen a cleaning lady costs like 4 or 5 times less than in france, but the rest isn't *that* cheaper
davout: cars are heavily taxed, the rest is okay i guess, depends obviously on whether you insist on buying the exact same stuff as at home or if you're ok going the local way
davout: so it's kind of weird, everything official is in english, but usual conversation is either in french, or in creole
mircea_popescu: with the horses ?
mircea_popescu: with the woman ?!
davout: figured moving to the south wasn't enough, so i've settled on mauritius
asciilifeform: how sing the minarets of sunny al-paris today, davout ?
BingoBoingo: alleged thickastheives finally updates blawg http://www.bitcoinerrorlog.com/2016/08/05/bitfinex-bitgo-become-bitcoin-barbers/
asciilifeform: 'Is Placebocin paradise, Erehwon, Shangri-La, utopia, Eden, and heaven all in a tiny gelatin capsule? Is Placebocin a T-3 fiberoptic Gigabit Ethernet connection to the Net? Is there anything that Placebocin cannot cure?'
mircea_popescu: this may well be more of the "cannibals" priestly fantasy.
asciilifeform: also for some reason i inevitably think of the legendary savages who 'died of voodoo' when prompted
asciilifeform: and even the humblest hobbyist spent, -- ask any -- obscene sums on antennae
asciilifeform: do not conflate surgeon and jack the ripper.
mircea_popescu: in ~every serious measuring effort, the antenna is more trouble than the collectors.
mircea_popescu: to be perfectly honest, a lot of your "oh, cern is not needed" is inseparable in my mind from "oh why should i spend the 50 on buying cable for antenna, not needed".
mircea_popescu: "by the lights of target market"
mircea_popescu: wasn't there yourtube with popping corn etc ?
asciilifeform: the interesting thing is that these tools 'work', no doubt arrow moves when you bring it up to working pnoje, etc. and this is 'works' per the lights of the target market.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is no question that it is poor design, you would never encounter such a thing even in undergrad lab
asciilifeform: i bring it up because this is somehow, at least in my mind, eerily analogous to the 'legal remedies' crackpottery portrayed in mircea_popescu's 'sops of government clerks' piece
mircea_popescu: for the other thing, how do i make sure i don't burn this item, since apparently the same needle responds to 3 unrelated things ?
mircea_popescu: it's mindboggling poor dersign. so for one thing, the measurement mechanism for magnetic is liable to influence measurements for electric and vice-versa.
asciilifeform: who never, afaik, once got a hold of, e.g., a used 'fluke' field strength meter, or any other adult toy.
asciilifeform: purchased by nobody other than 'wavies'
asciilifeform: there is, apparently, whole 'parallel world' of junky 'measurement tools'
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 04:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at one point i needed some conductive cloth (the kind with silver strands) for an experiment. to my great surprise, i discovered that there is a large manufacturer in usa, and they do brisk business with folks suffering from precisely the kind of phobia described in decimation's link.
mircea_popescu: and why the fuck pay these derps 50 bux instead of just plugging a ten mile long cable into some capacitors and pipe to serial connector on pc.
asciilifeform: for extra lulz, i dug into the 'trifield meter' pictured in linked piece. it appears to be from the 'madness market' segment discussed in the em shielding blanket thread...
mircea_popescu: kay then.
asciilifeform: 'Julianne McKinney, former Army Intelligence officer, Director of the Electronic Surveillance Project, a sub-group of the Association of National Security Alumni, and author of...'
asciilifeform: . (Julianne McKinney reports extensive experience with this during the 1980s and 1990s.)'
asciilifeform: 'Julianne McKinney reports that back in the 1980s and 1990s, persons complaining of electronic harassment were dismissed as “wavies,” and the government took the position that electronic weapons simply did not exist. The government no longer takes this position, she notes, but the “wavies” of yore are still a threat, apparently, so propaganda pieces alleging mental illness are now the preferred mode of attempted discrediting
mircea_popescu: grep for "wavies", a term i didn't see before, she halfmouthedly admits it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was the 'since 1980s' bit ?
phf: downsides of patching live process, one definition got updated, another one is sitting somewhere on stack
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 15:55 mircea_popescu: which is also why nutty woman accidentally admits she's been pushing this nonsense ever since trhe 80s, and puts her parents (ie, authority figure) in the amulet.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 15:55 mircea_popescu: which is also why nutty woman accidentally admits she's been pushing this nonsense ever since trhe 80s, and puts her parents (ie, authority figure) in the amulet.
asciilifeform: hey where'd the 2nd line come from
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 15:54 mircea_popescu: more generally, the dysfunctional brain is by definition limited.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-07 15:54 mircea_popescu: more generally, the dysfunctional brain is by definition limited.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly the same.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, "putin this or that ore the other". because it's not about the cripples, paralympics is like paralitics, ie politics-something
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: them cripples not crippled enough or wat was it ?
mircea_popescu: jaromil jires, rather.