mircea_popescu: s is nonsensical, because the "1" was also "all". a geometry describing one dimension in a world where only one dimension may exist is not any worse than a geometry describing three in a world with three. they're exactly the same thing : the complete story of geometry.
mircea_popescu: i said "phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"". this is a statement of the nature of, "geometry becomes rapidly longer as the number of possible dimensions goes above 1". you said "and i never for a moment disagreed with 'snatch stinks? yer poor & stupid'". this is a statement of the nature of "if you only describe one dimension, you suck at geometry". thi
asciilifeform: so which context then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well yes, in the context of, e.g., dark ages europe, 'non-stinking snatch' possibly required considerably more standing in hierarchy than presently. so context matters.
asciilifeform: definition can , as iirc was richly expounded on in the l0gz, also shift based on what we think is 'basic op'
mircea_popescu: in the context it was used, "i would like my snatch to not stink" made up the whole of the universe ; in the context you used it, it's part of a larger universe. this comparison is invalid.
mircea_popescu: the number 4 in there isn't comparable to the number 4 as you compared it ; they're different things.
mircea_popescu: hence why the various complex fabulations of the psycho-overactive are so dimly regarded.
mircea_popescu: phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"
phf: "be less stupid" might possibly be a cellular automaton. you can take steps according to certain rules, but the state of less stupid is emergent
mircea_popescu: it's still in the cell.
asciilifeform: so answer is, not to be them.
asciilifeform: also imho this thread can go somewhere useful still. in a ru (or i suspect any) prison cell, there are 'poverty' people, even if there is no money in the cell.
asciilifeform: (did the chinese actually call it 'mu' or was i lied to)
mircea_popescu: there's pretty much nothing i can say about it, turns out.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, should the operator be interested in resolving the poverty issue, the solution is always and without exception being less stupid ; notwithstanding that the tempting path usually taken is being more stupud, for some reason reminescent of that great pacino monologue in devil's advocate.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-14 16:36 mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people who, however poor may they be irl, are still not driven by the poverty so to speak.
asciilifeform: there was some thread re 'driven by poverty' but i can't seen to unearth it
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants to operate with a definition of 'stupid' that encompasses everybody on planet3 but mircea_popescu and five other d'artagnans, this is his business alone, and not mine
mircea_popescu: mno. if it ever makes sense to say "i am poor", in whatever context, for whatever reason, EVER ; it then therefore and for this reason as sole and sufficient it also makes sense to say "i am stupid".
asciilifeform: incidentally if mircea_popescu's picture of 'poverty' is encompassed by the hero of http://thewhet.net/2016/alcachofa-7515 then i have absolutely no counter against 'must also be stupid.'
asciilifeform: nah it is just that mircea_popescu poses a riddle where there is 'or your ox wanders off' and i dun have an ox, and have to spend quite a few cpu cycles mapping it onto what i actually do.
mircea_popescu: but yes, upon examination it's obvious we don't agree on "the definition of poverty". you apparently imagine it is a boolean ; and idiocy also.
mircea_popescu: what's this, "i'll consider looking at how nonsensical my nonsense is if you bake in this other nonsense" ?
asciilifeform: i really love mircea_popescu's 'choose hole a or hole b', 'fork in the eye or once up the arse?' (ru prison riddle) tests.
mircea_popescu: again - the test is given. what, you expect this to be resolved from hitler's own throne, administratively and universally, as if somehow universal knowledge is possible ?
asciilifeform: no room for naggum folk? (and are they poor? unpoor?)
mircea_popescu: the test is given.
mircea_popescu: if she doesn't, you've got a sort of place. if she does, you've got another sort of place.
mircea_popescu: why ? if "i'd love to chat you up but i gotta hurry back to work" applies, boy's poor, and girl either moves on or doesn't.
mircea_popescu: at least the women behave accordingly, sometimes.
mircea_popescu: that they actually try to pretend what you try to pretend, "poverty is not automatically disqualifying"
asciilifeform: what's the appeal of this again..?
mircea_popescu: ie specifically the sort of arrangement you don't seem to like.
mircea_popescu: there's "inner worth" places still. generally, villages and rural areas.
mircea_popescu: you want to live in that alt-world where not all poor people are by that fact imbeciles, move to a juntos vencemos place, live with the slime.
mircea_popescu: that you'd be living there as opposed to, say, argentina, while entertaining these ridoinculous "not all poor people are imbeciles" delusions is pretty nutty in itself.
mircea_popescu: VERY MUCH, much more than commonly realised, in the way the us works is predicated on a "can you afford one" system of qualifications.
asciilifeform: and this 'not known' is a mighty selective thing, like the rest of the 'rule of law' crock of shit. e.g., why not close ALL unsolved murders, by positing that martians nailed them via telekinesis.
asciilifeform: in that case it would be interesting to catalogue the 'miracles' that 'are possible' as per u.s. judicial precedent.
mircea_popescu: it was a rather contentious piece of lol.
asciilifeform: this'd be worth the stockholm gold (if it still were a real thing)
mircea_popescu: there's an array of "possible explanations", including that women do in some cases actually naturally conserve sperm.
mircea_popescu: i didn't witness it per se, it was just "the talk fo the town" so to speak. at least among a certain set.
mircea_popescu: it was a horror ; the baby was born iirc 13 months after the man's demise and their dna matched.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the thing you witnessed in mass.
mircea_popescu: STEP 3! SCROTUS picked up the case, bush had solicitor general intercede, because wanting to get more federal jurisdiction over state probate cases.
asciilifeform: even in the grand open air lunatic asylum that is usa, this seems like 'open & shut case', no ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the nicole smith case is interesting because of how perfectly she played the lizzards off each other. step 1: got one disowned brother to ally with her agains the other ; step 2 : declared bankruptcy, forcing california bankruptcy court into dispute with texas probate court.
asciilifeform: what i meant was, on what legal ground could the woman's claim possibly be dismissed.
mircea_popescu: well, probate cases, that's what they are. a judge ends up with 55 people in a room all clamoring.
asciilifeform: contested the will, or wat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how did the 'trying to exclude' work ?
mircea_popescu: in related lulz, while i was visiting mass at some point there was a huge todo because some woman had a child with a ~dead~ fortune owner. and the family was trying to exclude her.
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith << Anna Nicole Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith << Anna Nicole Smith – Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia | http://www.annanicole.com/ << Anna Nicole
mircea_popescu: and you'll keep saying until the day you die, poor.
mircea_popescu: but i note you're not actually confronting the ridiculousness of your earlier conflation.
asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi re the rest.
asciilifeform: well, at any rate the public whipping post only ever contains the folks who didn't make it to the ocean.
mircea_popescu: not something to go on the ocean in.
asciilifeform: 'In a 2006 video posted on YouTube promoting the society, Mr. Davidson is seen standing before a group of musicians and speaking about his organization. In the video, Mr. Bedi can be seen standing silently next to Mr. Davidson.' << gold.
asciilifeform: 'On his website, Mr. Davidson doesn't mention his family's affiliation with Schlumberger, instead focusing on his long career composing and performing music. A spokeswoman for Schlumberger declined to comment. Mr. Davidson is also the founder and president of the Society for Universal Sacred Music...'
asciilifeform: 'He said that in the days before they were arrested, the couple were preparing to leave the U.S. for Iceland where Ms. Invarsdottir's father, Ingvar Karlsson, is a prominent businessman.'
asciilifeform: 'The victim, a noted pianist and composer, is the great-grandson and great grand-nephew of the two brothers who founded Schlumberger Ltd.'
asciilifeform: http://www.westchesterda.net/news-and-information/current-press-releases/2742-state-prison-sentence-in-cyber-security-larceny-of-the-heir-to-schlumberger-oilfield-services-fortune << sentence.
mircea_popescu: ye scarecrow fighting don quijote that there's no other : poverty = stupidity. never was the converse contemplated.
mircea_popescu: "really... they did that ?" "oh, and then let's see, so the situation is x, i guess next they... burn the house down. ayup... they did."
mircea_popescu: it's consistently going to deliver ; not as greatly as the heights of fiction, true, but rarely as poorly as its pits.
mircea_popescu: essentially, you get a barely literate, tired man who dun wanna do it, coerced into summarizing the lives of other derps.
mircea_popescu: you know, before the whole "terrorists" bullshit started, i used to enjoy reading police reports.
asciilifeform: Bedi further related that his uncle obtained information that Polish priests affiliated with Opus Dei were attempting to possibly harm the victim. Bedi also advised the victim that the Central Intelligence Agency had subcontracted with Bedi to perform work which would prevent any attempts by the Polish priests associated with Opus Dei to infiltrate the U.S. government.'
asciilifeform: 'Bedi subsequently advised the victim that he successfully tracked the source of the computer virus to a remote village in Honduras. Bedi informed him that the hard drive was the source of the worm that had invaded the computer and advised the victim that Bedi’s uncle, who Bedi contended is an officer in the Indian military, flew to Honduras in an Indian military aircraft during a reconnaissance mission and obtained the hard drive.
ben_vulpes: nor are these "daily drivers", being nearly antiques already
ben_vulpes: i think i have one sitting in the "library of machines to cannibalize when the future demands"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: box is worth maaaaybe 100 (minus the ssd, which is modern and cost 4x that)
mircea_popescu: in other roger ver lulz, http://www.westchesterda.net/pressreleases/001108mkarraign.htm
mircea_popescu: threatens to become very much a generation-defining movie in the colonies, also.
mircea_popescu: "A generation-defining movie in Italy, I Knew Her Well is that rare saga of the never-was, immersed, like its heroine, in daydreams, numb to its own heartbreak."
mircea_popescu: im sure engineering works out exactly the same.
mircea_popescu: out of 9 "top critics" in syndication, two pass the blurb test : village voice's atkinson and slant magazine's dillard. this is the fucking bar, "write one sentence that doesn't mark you for idiocy", 2/9 specialists pass.
mircea_popescu: the fact that for any possible test other than timescale itself, she could already be una vecchia and nobody could tell the difference escapes notice.
mircea_popescu: and how commodously they give themselves the trophy, too. ADRIANA'S vacuity, you see. hers, not theirs. they know this. because...
mircea_popescu: James Kendrick Q Network Film Desk "Adriana's essential vacuity, central as it is the film's point, doesn't give us enough to hold onto, so by the time the narrative is winding its way to its climax, everything has blurred into one long rush of nothing."
mircea_popescu: it's fucking fascinating to read anglo reviews of fine italian cinema. a more stark light to display the fundamental inadequacy of that subculture in understanding anything worth thinking about could scarcely be found.
mats: i put a few coins down for a bet, sure hope the operator doesn't fly away
phf: that might be in the even older logs
mircea_popescu: anyone was around / recalls the discussions with the naive "mtgox debt" buyers ? back in the day ? pirate debt buyers ? back in THAT day ?
ben_vulpes: is anyone doing the "buy bitfinex coins at a ridoinculous discount" thing yet?
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/08/bitfinex-freezes-us-accounts-following-another-loss/ << this being exactly the mtgox playbook, "oh, it's not us, it's the processor"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller gotta love the "of course i'm outraged". somehow this made sense to him.
mircea_popescu: phf gotta cut the old folks some slack ; for them getting slobber on ballsack is a lifechanging sort of event.
phf: "and then we dropped acid and it was awesome. and then we dropped acid again, and it was awesome again" kind of stories..
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the spot to be today would be... the guy telling people what to do at burning man or somesuch i guess.
ben_vulpes: heh yeah my dad has some great stories about following the dead around
mircea_popescu: and i guess it was what, rock band roadie in the 80s ? cocksucker blues et all ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hence the quotes.
mircea_popescu: where do you meet all the sluts ? ngo organising ?
ben_vulpes: bit of a stretch to say that ideal man was moving pots in the aughts
mircea_popescu: so if the "ideal man" moved from porn in the 90s to pot in the 00s to what in 2010 ?
ben_vulpes: now, the rollup and consolidation of pot retail operations on the other hand, is going to be a fun project.
phf: man, that shotgun to the head is nasty. i wouldn't want confederate rabbit to get replaced by it
mircea_popescu: by now "pot smuggling" is right up there with hawking concert tickets.
mircea_popescu: well, it's other news.
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Recreational marijuana is available to residents and non-residents of Colorado, however you must be 21 years old and older to purchase or possess. Only licensed retail marijuana stores may sell retail marijuana.
mats: iirc the controversy in question was over a vidya of him taking a bong rip
ben_vulpes: so all the 'omg drugs' propaganda produced ~0 actual effect on the mans professional career
thestringpuller: more ver-ified lulz: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4xj6uw/bitcoin_previously_had_all_the_properties_that/d6fw4ns
mats: States... Among the data provided to me by the FBI on this list, "Caliconnect" was the third largest U.S.-based vendor on the Silk Road in terms of total sales."
mats: also, "Other HSI investigators and I reviewed approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 704 pounds of marijuana and approximately 10.5 grams of cocaine were sold to customers located throughout the United
shinohai: shit BingoBoingo i fergot to archive.is the sauce
mircea_popescu: it did end up put in there in response to events though, it's not deductively derived from qntra substance
mircea_popescu: wait, so like the us ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider. << Would also break Qntra's branding history. Perhaps if someone wanted to start an "Online Culture Magazine" it may have a place in the header of that as per http://trilema.com/the-boy-blog-network
mircea_popescu: tbh they're more pernicious and a larger threat to sugar, spice and everything nice than bumbling "law enforcement" could ever hope to be.
mircea_popescu: and i'd just as well like to have it well exposed and catalogued to bitchslap the gwern-ish wikipedia/lesswrong/niceonline beta bois and assorted imbeciles.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: mats seriously, the pile of unexploited comedy gold in that "community driven" "dao-based security" thing is staggering.
mats: and discovered comments and reviews from individuals claiming to have ordered marijuana from a dark-web vendor going by the online username "caliconnect."
mats: "On June 3,2015 I learned that publicly available information indicated David BURCHARD, **** Duke Ct, Merced, California 95340, had registered or attempted to register and trademark the phrase "caliconnect." After obtaining this information, HSI Fresno investigators began to search Reddit and other publicly available websites for the username "caliconnect"
asciilifeform: lel, did they write back to israel, 'stop sending niggerz with non-rusting staples' etc ?
asciilifeform: who, i wonder, was the lucky dude
mircea_popescu: i kinda like the idea of that thing as an icon.
mircea_popescu: kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try compress the gif, it takes eons to load
mircea_popescu: mats "was struggling to move one kilogram" ie, "this inept prude is struggling to take a 7 inch cock up her ass" not "the total volume of shit she ever shat to become the 29 yo loser she is doesn't ammount to the volume of a 7 inch penis"
mats: the post was informative, no doubt about the fundamentals being correct -- readers, see http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter
mats: just making a dig. specifically, in reference to 'This is why two years later the famous marketplace was struggling to move one kilogram of cocaine, and this is why it took them three weeks to make the sale, and this is why it actually had to be the owner buying it on his own account : because SR makes no economic sense whatsoever.'
mircea_popescu: the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of the tango is the sharp end of measures. you have a fuzzy exp that concentrates in a glowing hot tip. that's a tango.
mircea_popescu: fucking argentines and their "lyrical" tango. god damned. these people have no idea.
BingoBoingo: kinda the whole problem with extant fiat/Bitcoin interfaces on a more familiar scale
BingoBoingo: Because how the fuck do you price milk if only one buyer from dairies and seller to consumers exists?
BingoBoingo: bits and pieces, but the gist I get is pseudo-mantadory middlemen break markets
mircea_popescu: since back in january you weren't yet constructing your identity around cleavage asciilifeform here's a repost : http://trilema.com/2016/the-bizarro-world-of-camwhoring/#selection-155.0-155.225
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/two-theoretical-alternatives/ << Trilema - Two theoretical alternatives
mircea_popescu: another heuristic ruined, "so you shot a guy in the face ?" "oh yeah" "describe how it looks" is no longer an absolute bar to redditards.
asciilifeform: prolly just the eyeball pop.
mircea_popescu: awww! ANOTHER loss ? but who could have etc.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/bitfinex-freezes-us-accounts-following-another-loss/ << Qntra - Bitfinex Freezes US Accounts Following Another Loss
asciilifeform: and it isn't the piece of lead.
asciilifeform: one of the numerous things seals do not do, is to sneak into violator's bed at night and remove his balls.
mircea_popescu: as proven by the quotes.
asciilifeform: well then noshit.jpg.
mircea_popescu: problem is the seal relies on a certain environment. to work it requires a population of mit engineers "as they pretend to be" rather than "as they are"
a111: Logged on 2015-03-28 03:15 Adlai: some of the devices shipped with teh sticker glued to the wrong side
asciilifeform: ( the humble seal is one of the most, imho, under-rated pieces of crypto tech. at least the 'otp' variant, where it is made from a shattered rod, is 'unbreakable' in any direct sense. as discussed in at least one old thread. )
shinohai: Quite possibly a superior use of the hardware
asciilifeform: https://jhalderm.com/pacman << in other nooze: 'It's a touch-screen DRE (direct-recording electronic) voting machine. ... We received the machine with the original tamper-evident seals intact. The software can be replaced without breaking any of these seals, simply by removing screws and opening the case. ... In celebration of the 30th anniversary of the iconic arcade game, we reprogrammed the AVC Edge to run Pac-Man.'
mircea_popescu: men are creatures of habit, there's i'm told "de facto designated areas" anyway.
asciilifeform: in as far as dirigiblisms go, this is the mildest yet, i can throw down my shirt also and it will also get washed.
mircea_popescu: you still gotta put it in the basket...
asciilifeform: dunno, at one point, in civilized cities, ~only specially-grown laundry nuns did laundry, everybody else just dropped coin in the basked and off it went
mircea_popescu: it may surprise the esteemed audience to find that i have never ever done laundry, in any capacity. not as much as load a load into a machine.
asciilifeform: there is 'proceed from cause, damn the torpedoes' but there is also 'first ecstasy, then laundry.'
mircea_popescu: there is that. but then again - we don't care about results, purpose or consequence here at tmsr.
asciilifeform: the problem, possibly, is that we get a multitude of fat, emboldened weevils.
mircea_popescu: i don't see at this point what exactly could happen to graham that'd be on the strength of his public record unwarranted.
mircea_popescu: moreover, his notions of paul graham as the victim scarcely meet yours. for that matter mine - it is rare to see a confessed ponzi fraudster go free to "advise" young people on "their careers".
mircea_popescu: the objection is methodological. i am saying yarvin is not a thinker.
mircea_popescu: it is ; but this isn't the problem. the problem is that he's proceeded in the "Scientific American" manner of contemporary MIT engineering. he created a "hockey stick pattern" out of putting some data through a process that always yields a hockey stick pattern ; data that he's obtained from extrapolating a tiny dataset of dubious relevancy (ie, last week's tv guide contents).
asciilifeform: ght with his head shrunk to the size of a baseball, we won't see a lot of witch-hunting and we know there's a serious witch problem. In a country where witch-hunting is a stable and lucrative career, and also an amateur pastime enjoyed by millions of hobbyists on the weekend, we know there are no real witches worth a damn.' << this struck me as reasonable observation.
asciilifeform: 'Obviously, if the witches had any power whatsoever, they wouldn't waste their time gallivanting around on broomsticks, fellating Satan and cursing cows with sour milk. They're getting burned right and left, for Christ's sake! Priorities! No, they'd turn the tables and lay some serious voodoo on the witch-hunters. In a country where anyone who speaks out against the witches is soon found dangling by his heels from an oak at midni
mircea_popescu: somewhere in the foundations of his "unitarian church" series.
mircea_popescu: unawareness of such "invisible" subtleties then lead one on wild goose chases of theoretical constructs with little basis in anything but tobacco he smoked.
mircea_popescu: "we are living in a time of witchdom, how else did the ocean get bridged"
mircea_popescu: that evidence doesn't meet your standard is irrelevant - stuff like "ship across atlantic" very neatly met theirs.
mircea_popescu: moreover this is the answer an actually competent scholar would give to amateur efforts a la yarvin's "oh, how could these people believe such nonsense WITHOIUT EVIDENCE".
mircea_popescu: besides the navigators were italian dutch and portuguese, not really spanish.
asciilifeform: incidentally, mircea_popescu's article with the 'brujula' (compass), i could not help but wonder, is this same root as 'bruja' (witch) ?
asciilifeform: or was that in some other time or place.
asciilifeform: in even lulzier noose, http://thefactcoalition.org/worlds-largest-banks-endorse-ending-anonymous-shell-companies <<< does this mean that Crypto Ag will be unmasked??!1111
asciilifeform: when i was a boy, mother went, briefly, to finland, and came back with tales of unfathomable civilization, with megatechnological wonders such as clean streets, japanese cars, and tv sets with REMOTES
mircea_popescu: yugo - gone ; egypt - gone ; worth looking through the list, it's pretty much the dod blueprint.
mircea_popescu: just like the us carefully popped each and every single bulb in the previous "club of unalligned nations", russia fucked around with its better neighbours.
asciilifeform: (prior to all of which, there were, of course, no finns as such, but buncha backwater swedes...)
asciilifeform: the ~original~ 'lavabit', if you will.
asciilifeform: whatever even happened to the finns...
mircea_popescu: obviously, deed-and-paste is much more reliable for a disrupted flow sort of situation. more generally : improvements can and do exist. it's just that they never come from the state.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/buenos-aires-that-southern-village/ << Trilema - Buenos Aires, that southern village.
mircea_popescu: ie, irc is what "social media" idly pretends to have been. notwithstanding that digg and myspace went away, as reddit and facebook will go away. irc has been here throughout, and will probably see the successor websites putting forth the same sort of plowing flies idle pretensions. for idiots to believe ; and everyone else to laugh.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who recalls the history of irc ; but for the sake of recording : it was originally a finnish bb extension ; it quickly spread throughout finland then to swedish network ; then various us universities applied to be accepted and were. then it was used to report on the gorbachev coup, through a "media blocade", after being similarly useful during the gulf war.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the brits have ~nothing on usa: we have a whole supreme court judge here who is solidly suspected of illiteracy
asciilifeform: 'kick the dog till it bites, then shoot it' is standard anglo approach, from boer war, to ww2 japan, to every poor motherfucker like the one in link
mircea_popescu: the difference between qntra article detailing embarrassing illiteracy of uk supreme court and cancer cell the surgeon missed is just about nil.
mircea_popescu: not a hard task, either : its reach has to be negative.
asciilifeform: (it had no net access but they cut its phone, mail, visitors off.)
asciilifeform: waco set the gold standard.
mircea_popescu: ie, "order to stay away from the internet" etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway - the statal response to this sort of "situation" is very much modelled on the bomb disarming philosophy : "oh, you want to blow ? fine, now you have to, while we try to manipulate the context so that you're not effective"
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 17:48 mircea_popescu: "here's the laws and and if you don't like it, you can leave" "i'll go join the people that'll fuck you up" "o wait you can't leave" "does that mean you admit your laws are dumb ?" "nope" "does that make you a hypocritical idiot ? " "no it doesnt!!1"
asciilifeform: in moar interesting noose, https://theintercept.com/2016/08/12/canadian-man-killed-during-police-raid-had-built-online-life-around-supporting-isis << canadian fella, 'under government surveillance due to his social media postings and had received a judicial order in February banning him from use of the internet' shot by police after, supposedly, setting off inept bomb.
mircea_popescu: continuing the reporting of meatballs : http://66.media.tumblr.com/73b381e2224830142813a64385195d61/tumblr_mrdibgh98k1qea16ro1_500.jpg
shinohai: wow Tenn the guy lives mebbe 6 hours from me lol
mircea_popescu: and in other morning woods, http://66.media.tumblr.com/701d810f1637a939d18ab7be48978c5a/tumblr_mtwlruT11G1qkkvmmo1_400.gif
asciilifeform: 'The judge said, based on the law, smuggling over 20 firearms should be given death sentence. However, the judge added that considering Liu’s young age at the time when the crime was committed, the court thus handed down a life sentence instead.'
asciilifeform: 'The fate of Liu Dawei that would lead him to a life sentence conviction began on July, 2014. Then 18-year-old, gun enthusiast Liu placed an online order to purchase 24 replica firearms from a Taiwanese website ...'
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to be had, no.
asciilifeform: if there's nothing else, i've nothing.
mircea_popescu: lettuce talk of something else for i tire of the nonsense.
asciilifeform: (if he dun care whether anyone believes, naturally he dun have to show nuffin)
mircea_popescu: the only burden of proof is on ridiculous short man with napoleon delusions giving god ultimatums and then pretending the "burden of proof", as if such a thing could even exist in the nonsensical context, is on this or that.
asciilifeform: who - as incidentally mircea_popescu did - shows the tx.
asciilifeform: but burden of proof is on fella who says 'i've been trying to get this tx mined since obama presidency and nobody includes it in block because they are joooz' is on the claimant.
mircea_popescu: oh, and this year is what, in the protocol ?
asciilifeform: 'it's in the next block!'
mircea_popescu: unless you didn't hear the block.
mircea_popescu: if there existed good physical models for bitcoin we wouldn't have either the problems or the interest.
asciilifeform: and that the actuarial alarm bell is my 'drunk on springwater.'
mircea_popescu: may doesn't rescue you from the fact that you're purporting to compare the results of two functions that may never return at the same time.
mircea_popescu: "is this ball bluer than the number 5 ???"
asciilifeform: tell me how 'coin moved' is not equivalent to 'coin may have moved to addr that mover dun have the key to and aint ever giving it back'.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing here ; your presupositions can't be admitted. there's no way to do science o nthis.
mircea_popescu: there is no such proof to be had ; you are simply pretending to glue together things that don't exist in the same domain.
mircea_popescu: it's a ridiculous stance, but whatever, people did PROVE that "she's a witch, but we did do the nose" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: no. "coin movement" carries no information ; anyone may pretend otherwise at their leisure.
asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu has this 'if we pretend coin movement carries 0 bits of info to the enemy, mebbe it will become true' thing going.
mircea_popescu: o look, mussolini's a theologian now.
asciilifeform: you can take' it to the bank '.
mircea_popescu: it's not even a hypothesis.
asciilifeform: this is a usable hypothesis, and the smart money will use it, just as it uses 'if train engineer drinks, he is more likely to cause bloodbath than if does not drink'.