ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> uh i mean flycheck
ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu is using a box with ready access to emacs 25?!
ben_vulpes: no idear
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: flycheck?
ben_vulpes: it's your gulagbox, who knows or cares
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: it's haskell, who knows or cares
ben_vulpes: disregard
ben_vulpes: semantics
ben_vulpes: or even just block
ben_vulpes: s/Bitcoin blockchain/Bitcoin blockheight/
ben_vulpes: but your screeds, your dating notation boss
ben_vulpes: imho, should really read "block height 6666666"
ben_vulpes: ahaha and mircea_popescu is finally dating missives with block heights
ben_vulpes: what is this patch to disable asics?
ben_vulpes: http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20160113/FREE/301179999/socially-conscious-investing-gets-a-boost-from-the-dol-fiduciary-rule << gotta love how the department of labor is somehow involved in fiduciary rule-setting
ben_vulpes: (also 'dark age blood sports' lol)
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375260 << i do not want this
ben_vulpes: lol breitbart
ben_vulpes: shapeshit?
ben_vulpes: there are excellent reasons for the 80-col law.
ben_vulpes: guruvan: what better route forward then? ubuntu 14.04?
ben_vulpes downloading stage three for the...second? third? time today
ben_vulpes: nifty device, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: 2 things drove this toolchain rebuild: exwm and tri-on-the-metal.
ben_vulpes: "why gentoo?" asked $bzprtner, "is that the best linux thing around for working on mega-c projects?" "no, it's simply the least-worst and has a snowflake's chance of working"
ben_vulpes: againstillnowwithgusto
ben_vulpes: today it's gentoo quest.
ben_vulpes: video drivers etc
ben_vulpes: boost ate shit, tri segfaulted
ben_vulpes: should have listened to you, but must piss on each and every fence myself.
ben_vulpes: chapter something in the story, yes asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: with a mouse, on a house
ben_vulpes: have built in docker, cloud, etc
ben_vulpes: myriad layers of virtualization.
ben_vulpes: 'twas not sane.
ben_vulpes is doing the same thing he's been doing for the past three weekends, building a sane development environment on actual metal
ben_vulpes: rude
ben_vulpes: guy writes javascript, uses mawk...
ben_vulpes: > i adopted it in 2009
ben_vulpes: "FOOF"
ben_vulpes: did i hear that someone managed to get rotor to clobber their whole homedir?
ben_vulpes: sleep?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what is with you and unsanitary working conditions
ben_vulpes: anyways, doesn't get hot enough to do the radiant trick, you end up heating the whole place instead of the place where you are.
ben_vulpes: oh lol
ben_vulpes: takes mega current
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: electric is the *worst*
ben_vulpes: co co
ben_vulpes: c0*
ben_vulpes: that was a fun day
ben_vulpes: only time i ever came close to death by co2 was operating the concrete cutter in someone's basement
ben_vulpes: yeah well get a bigger shop
ben_vulpes: "science doesn't suck -- it blows!"
ben_vulpes: you want the eye of sauron: mr heater mh15t
ben_vulpes: is that /plastic/?
ben_vulpes: oh jeez
ben_vulpes: well, "most" relative to volume of shop.
ben_vulpes: which one? and why unendurable?
ben_vulpes: plus very tall ceilings
ben_vulpes: co poisoning not really an issue, it's a slow flow over some steel mesh, more or less everything burns off on the mesh going to co2
ben_vulpes: also blew crap all over the shop while i was finishing tables and whatnot, so eventually decommissioned.
ben_vulpes: did not work as well as the radiant attachments atop the propane tank
ben_vulpes: pumped water through the furnace, up to our shop, and through an old car radiator with a fan behind it.
ben_vulpes: BUT SO AWESOME
ben_vulpes: horrendously noisy
ben_vulpes: 'twas outside
ben_vulpes maggot, proud to find free energy around
ben_vulpes: there was a chinese restaurant giving it away up the street!
ben_vulpes: furnace was for heating warehouse where i was working
ben_vulpes: learned that turbo machinery is clearly the correct solution
ben_vulpes: piston was for lulzy undergraduate water cooled lfr engine design with reciprocating pistons to pressurize fuel lines
ben_vulpes: piston or furnace?
ben_vulpes: actually the waste oil furnace was pretty good
ben_vulpes regards the vast pile of oddities that sorta-worked
ben_vulpes: like everything else i do.
ben_vulpes: didn't! at all!
ben_vulpes once attempted to fab a piston
ben_vulpes: yeah well who knows how the trajectory actually draws through the possibility space
ben_vulpes: gotta kill the megastates first though.
ben_vulpes: ofc one could also do entirely away with the 'cc' part.
ben_vulpes: anyways an entirely viable future is one wherein the various lords with computing gear remaining in the closet operate their own bitcoind variants as local banks, holding chits for the peasants and reconciling over shortwave gpggram
ben_vulpes: aha carbides
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: myes, i can see this
ben_vulpes: hawala, then?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform i'm suffering from a failure of imagination--care to link me to the thread where you explain how a cc would work without miners?
ben_vulpes: very causation
ben_vulpes: mornin
ben_vulpes: meet farket
ben_vulpes: > fee market
ben_vulpes: exwm and the reference implementation are ~90% of my current compute goals
ben_vulpes: i had emacs in x11
ben_vulpes: mine did obsd just fine, didn't want to accelerate videocards though
ben_vulpes: great vintage
ben_vulpes: srsly not the kahlua
ben_vulpes: sorry, the relentless carblogger threads have me twisted
ben_vulpes: oh wait this is fiat currency not fiat cars
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the fiat involvement is not clear
ben_vulpes: sorry, $client left many bottles of homemade kahlua at the office
ben_vulpes: i'm playing *gentoo quest* most recently...
ben_vulpes: er
ben_vulpes: i'm playing openbsd quest most recently, as openbsd didn't do drivers or reference implementation compilation
ben_vulpes: what kind of linux, what kind of mbp?
ben_vulpes: phf: funny you should mention this
ben_vulpes: buy cars and not computers. have no representation in the wot.
ben_vulpes: adherence to the modernist forms notwithstanding.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: they /are/ barbarians.
ben_vulpes: where'd it cut off?
ben_vulpes: but now i am a man and i hang fools by my own hand
ben_vulpes: once i was a child, i extended them as much rope as i thought they'd need to hang themselves
ben_vulpes: i don't extend the robert viragh s of the world nearly so much rope as i did before
ben_vulpes: should punindented come back, it must be on his knees.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 'twas so banal as to be entirely unremarkable
ben_vulpes: how quickly do the rest of you feel like burning your identities?
ben_vulpes: so that's one of the four new faces
ben_vulpes: !up punindented
ben_vulpes: punindented: you may continue this conversation here
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.punindented.-1:fdd8264a25a95bfb8946055ada53326a3a54a99c6cf8594b6f5effcaae04d145
ben_vulpes: !rate punindented -1 unwelcome here
ben_vulpes: > plum role
ben_vulpes: one of those interesting $50 now or $2500 in three week problems i can solve due to hilariously checkered background
ben_vulpes at office, fixing fancy couch $bzprtnr bought a year ago
ben_vulpes: more new faces?
ben_vulpes: literal bottom feeders.
ben_vulpes: mk.
ben_vulpes: > t bars
ben_vulpes: so they're a glorified waste-processing plant.
ben_vulpes: plus costs of molds, does it cast? forge? roll?
ben_vulpes: steel mill doesn't make sense to operate unless operated continually, no small-batch fabber is going to do so.
ben_vulpes: even $robofab i worked for one time had their castings done by a casting company.
ben_vulpes: hard to make a small steel mill. the things tend to be huge and dominate the area or go out of business.
ben_vulpes: http://news.mit.edu/2016/nanophotonic-incandescent-light-bulbs-0111 << luminous efficiency is a reprehensible scam
ben_vulpes: lovely highway driver, though.
ben_vulpes: i can hear the damn thing depreciating just driving around town.
ben_vulpes: 'twas built for glass-smooth late seventies roads.
ben_vulpes: this is actually my greatest lament about the corvette
ben_vulpes: far better to be useful helping mod6 than to waste time like me on deadlang impls that don't even work
ben_vulpes: i do not buy this "they're all turing complete, so what's the aggro?" line.
ben_vulpes: did we do the hundred and forty line node version of kill -9 yet?
ben_vulpes: punindented: please no js
ben_vulpes: please no node
ben_vulpes: no node
ben_vulpes: huh
ben_vulpes: i think i understand what you're driving at
ben_vulpes: yes this i get
ben_vulpes: mod6: im still a bit unclear as to what "precedence levels" refers
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: weev's tracker
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "we'll give you a zillion dollars provided you spend it all designing and producing our next generation of home routers"?
ben_vulpes: the effect is rather beautiful.
ben_vulpes: monochrome + color inversion
ben_vulpes: heh relatedly i coerced my ipnohe into gothmode last night
ben_vulpes: someone might figure out that nothing's gotten any better since then
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lolno
ben_vulpes: what do you mean "precedence levels"
ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
ben_vulpes: i have to redo its press algo to recurse up the parents chain
ben_vulpes: last i checked did not produce trees that matched yours
ben_vulpes: mod6: eh it probably doesn't work anyways
ben_vulpes: because rEFInd does not work on the ancient mbp and the ready ways to get rEFIt onto the damned thing is to...install it from os x first.
ben_vulpes: hey pete_dushenski you may be entertained to hear that my openbsd adventures have led me to download 10.6 and dd it onto a usb
ben_vulpes: it*
ben_vulpes: makes for low snr is what is does
ben_vulpes: of the suburbs of soi-disant cities in provinces nobody visits anyways
ben_vulpes: seriously, vagrants publishing pamphlets in the far flung outskirts
ben_vulpes: who cares
ben_vulpes: > js << lolwutwho
ben_vulpes: punkman: a right
ben_vulpes: (and ty, jurov)
ben_vulpes: logz plz
ben_vulpes: even if you don't move the coins around, would you show your charge and account for its not moving in donations?
ben_vulpes: i'd really rather the books show the expected expenses, jurov.
ben_vulpes: o tru
ben_vulpes never understood the 'broomstick' line
ben_vulpes: ffs.
ben_vulpes: ddos?
ben_vulpes: but also the startup short requires tending to the egos of those being shorted.
ben_vulpes: somewhat.
ben_vulpes: one of not crossing bezzle and bitcoin streams.
ben_vulpes: not his problem though
ben_vulpes: no way
ben_vulpes: "web techmologies!"
ben_vulpes: and eating of capital
ben_vulpes: this margin/time/spend way of looking at things is very illuminating
ben_vulpes: foundation spend << not to date
ben_vulpes: aaand that was actually indonesia, so i'm probably thinking about the wrong thing.
ben_vulpes: those were hdds
ben_vulpes: cars are an insane deployment of capital and parking an insane deployment of re
ben_vulpes: phf: and in those cities the cars park for 4+ hours and the trucks doing actual work double park next to them
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/2016/01/14/u-s-navys-new-fast-transport-ships-cant-stand-buffeting-from-high-seas/ << heh
ben_vulpes: so then why are we engaged in this exercise at all? some future derp will just flip out over the bit being flipped in the opposite direction.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is it more difficult to malleate to low-s from high-s?
ben_vulpes: ive nfi what bb and pete were thinking
ben_vulpes: just because i'm not complaining about the moronic voicings in real time doesn't mean i'm not getting annoyed reading the logs elsewhere.
ben_vulpes: after all the noise in the logs from last night i certainly have no more patience for it.
ben_vulpes: heck, that's how the city was set up pre-interstate
ben_vulpes would be entirely happy with horses and trams
ben_vulpes: no more megabuxx for fixing all the damage cars do to the entirely serviceable tarmac designed originally for bikes
ben_vulpes: no more megabuxx for interstate
ben_vulpes: it's going to end up that way, mircea_popescu.
ben_vulpes: sure, nobody'd blink.
ben_vulpes: i don't fucking /park/ them, that's for damn sure.
ben_vulpes: call a car, it's what i do
ben_vulpes: no dirigible parking anyways.
ben_vulpes: your oddball habits don't really bear on cascadian city planning problems.
ben_vulpes: this particular thread is old yes
ben_vulpes: noobsRus: NOBODY CARES
ben_vulpes: but no, reseller of pink plastic chinese crap, you do not get more parking just for the asking.
ben_vulpes: parking is for megacorps who can afford to waste the space in that way. generally supermarkets which are dying anyways.
ben_vulpes: nevertheless this is my town, and more parking is not what i want.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ofc
ben_vulpes: phf: there aren't really "car people" in town. the closest thing is the various merchant groups owners all live in the suburbs and operate a variant of the quiznos/arbys/starbucks franchise, and so want 'moar parking!', because that's all they understand.
ben_vulpes: noobsRus: nobody gices a fuck about r/t/hn
ben_vulpes: phf: it's not "low car concentration" it's high people concentration. the concentration of cars in an area is nigh-meaningless given that a car takes up > 8 m^2 of space for typically one user, and this imposes a hard upper bound on a) the number of cars in a space and b) the number of people you can cram into a space.
ben_vulpes: lotta new faces this past week.
ben_vulpes: !gettrust noobsRus
ben_vulpes: who are you though
ben_vulpes: regardless of what the merchants want, tight on-street parking is both the prime indicator that and a core driver for a neighborhood being worth going to and living in. merchant complaints entirely aside (what do they know, they've forgotten the import of "foot traffic" and "location location location"), sacrificing car parking for bike access is the utter best way to get more people trafficing past your dumb shop.
ben_vulpes: welcome noobsRus, no thanks necessary
ben_vulpes: "because the city decided that on-street auto parking directly in front of the stores was more important than all-ages bike access to the future of those districts." << heh, andersen with the subtle shiv
ben_vulpes: !up noobsRus
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for the gentoo novice, what are the major de-poetteringizing flags to be aware of and set?
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0030 << phf, you can specify patches for lxr thusly
ben_vulpes: o gawd pete_dushenski the cxt
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: how would i know, i'm just a human compiler
ben_vulpes: statistically unlikely events and i guess vanity addresses
ben_vulpes: has domain over chance, mean reversion
ben_vulpes: hipster goddes of luck, aka lady infity, lady limit
ben_vulpes: ifni rolled me a good one.
ben_vulpes: *and* the child may be getting it as well.
ben_vulpes: *and* the girl is sick.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i got an entire night of sleep last night
ben_vulpes nods
ben_vulpes: "maybe this" and "nop"
ben_vulpes: cancer has scalar treatments, non?
ben_vulpes: small pineapple, large pineapple, should not matter when sitting. idem broomsticks prolly.
ben_vulpes: and the cops won't touch it because "be nice to the homeless!"
ben_vulpes: the parks department won't touch it because it's not in the park proper
ben_vulpes: there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park
ben_vulpes: related lolz that didn't make it in
ben_vulpes: *habit
ben_vulpes: oh i'm sure i did at some point, i have a bad windmill mabit
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/15_defend-the-world-trashers-at-the-expense-of-those-doing-their-tiny-damndest-and-lets-see-where-that-gets-you.html << i think deedbot- mised this one
ben_vulpes: i can almost guarantee that i am not catching encodings right now
ben_vulpes: but sure
ben_vulpes: \r\n for every newline
ben_vulpes: r
ben_vulpes: browser also submits