ben_vulpes: unless you want to make all os widgets take up vastly more space too
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377122 << miserably impossible with modern browser
ben_vulpes: well asciilifeform-style overdramatized 'p0vertee'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: bums don't pay?
ben_vulpes: pets consume a fixed fraction of income, may as well minimize integral of fraction over the next decade or so.
ben_vulpes: adapting to poverty was explicit goal of late twenties though.
ben_vulpes: tromping down stairs as i write.
ben_vulpes: other side of the wall, i mean.
ben_vulpes lives in box with other people 2m away, even
ben_vulpes impoverished usian, does not even have workstation
ben_vulpes: heh and grep newlines
ben_vulpes: i guess i can skip the fanthread
ben_vulpes: am i seriously looking at a 1k+ logbacklog?
ben_vulpes: tangled how?
ben_vulpes: but that's just because elisp completely lacks namespacing facilities, phf, there couldn't possibly be any sour-grapes malice at work!
ben_vulpes: at least i can update my blog
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375640 << bwahaha i completely missed this
ben_vulpes: s/was/is
ben_vulpes: wasn't there some cl-in-elisp thinger?
ben_vulpes: imagine the lifestyle that makes life with flycheck less miserable than life /without/ flycheck
ben_vulpes: lol asciilifeform thinks he labors in little gulag of horrors
ben_vulpes just reread flycheck thread
ben_vulpes not engaging in wannabe red team wankery, this wine is over and am out
ben_vulpes: thirty-second inch veneers
ben_vulpes: and because you can't stairs?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: they now control marijuana in this derpy little province too
ben_vulpes: (hey, it's a bank holiday. half the staph even bothered to show up, and those left as soon as they fixed the fucked up builds they shipped on friday, leaving me and $bzprtnr alone with the tequila and org chart)
ben_vulpes: "oregon liquor control commission"
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: dood you gotta look into the nightmare that is the olcc
ben_vulpes: i suppose /some/ of the bdsm clubs do that, simply to keep the olcc out of their hair
ben_vulpes: and exhibit tits without booze?
ben_vulpes: er license
ben_vulpes: sell alcohol with no booze?
ben_vulpes: gosh mircea_popescu you just don't understand how the world works do you
ben_vulpes: hyuuuuuuuuu
ben_vulpes: wohohoho
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: even brought me stale pumpkin seeds!
ben_vulpes: starbucks is searching for profit the only way it can be had in america, by going upmarket
ben_vulpes: rebuttle's way mo bettle
ben_vulpes: straight to tip jar
ben_vulpes: "but yeah give me those two bucks"
ben_vulpes: ultimately, "no no, now i want to drink whatever's being sold as pinot gris here"
ben_vulpes: babe at the counter offered to cash the remaining two dollars out, triggering all sorts of my exclamations
ben_vulpes: hey man someone sent me a gift card for some inscrutable reason
ben_vulpes: evening all
ben_vulpes: hohoho i just discovered that starbucks will cash out gift cards
ben_vulpes: wb to the states, mthreat :D
ben_vulpes: guy really insists on his particular brand of suffering
ben_vulpes: because if you put it to writing it is going to read as "programmer"
ben_vulpes: i am asking what precisely that is in your bosses eyes
ben_vulpes: not your real true self
ben_vulpes: what pray tell are you in your bosses eyes
ben_vulpes: dude programmers in america are the most spoiled group in terms of bennies and tolerance of absurd work behavior and yet you insist that you must conf0rm!
ben_vulpes: actually talking to managers
ben_vulpes: not doing dumb shit!
ben_vulpes: i do not understand this hair shirt buying into of corporate culture
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: did not answer the question.
ben_vulpes: if chance, it's a poor gamble. if it's a promise, why can't they buy a box for your haus?
ben_vulpes: is this for the /chance/ to do so or the /promise/ to do so?
ben_vulpes: no but why must you have the computing device with you?
ben_vulpes: and i suppose broomstick.
ben_vulpes: dirigible!
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: this is what you get for trying to do s33r1ous wurk! on a portable
ben_vulpes: sure
ben_vulpes: department of lolz
ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing that
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> uh i mean flycheck
ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu is using a box with ready access to emacs 25?!
ben_vulpes: no idear
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: flycheck?
ben_vulpes: it's your gulagbox, who knows or cares
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: it's haskell, who knows or cares
ben_vulpes: disregard
ben_vulpes: semantics
ben_vulpes: or even just block
ben_vulpes: s/Bitcoin blockchain/Bitcoin blockheight/
ben_vulpes: but your screeds, your dating notation boss
ben_vulpes: imho, should really read "block height 6666666"
ben_vulpes: ahaha and mircea_popescu is finally dating missives with block heights
ben_vulpes: what is this patch to disable asics?
ben_vulpes: http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20160113/FREE/301179999/socially-conscious-investing-gets-a-boost-from-the-dol-fiduciary-rule << gotta love how the department of labor is somehow involved in fiduciary rule-setting
ben_vulpes: (also 'dark age blood sports' lol)
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-01-2016#1375260 << i do not want this
ben_vulpes: lol breitbart
ben_vulpes: shapeshit?
ben_vulpes: there are excellent reasons for the 80-col law.
ben_vulpes: guruvan: what better route forward then? ubuntu 14.04?
ben_vulpes downloading stage three for the...second? third? time today
ben_vulpes: nifty device, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: 2 things drove this toolchain rebuild: exwm and tri-on-the-metal.
ben_vulpes: "why gentoo?" asked $bzprtner, "is that the best linux thing around for working on mega-c projects?" "no, it's simply the least-worst and has a snowflake's chance of working"
ben_vulpes: againstillnowwithgusto
ben_vulpes: today it's gentoo quest.
ben_vulpes: video drivers etc
ben_vulpes: boost ate shit, tri segfaulted
ben_vulpes: should have listened to you, but must piss on each and every fence myself.
ben_vulpes: chapter something in the story, yes asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: with a mouse, on a house
ben_vulpes: have built in docker, cloud, etc
ben_vulpes: myriad layers of virtualization.
ben_vulpes: 'twas not sane.
ben_vulpes is doing the same thing he's been doing for the past three weekends, building a sane development environment on actual metal
ben_vulpes: rude
ben_vulpes: guy writes javascript, uses mawk...
ben_vulpes: > i adopted it in 2009
ben_vulpes: "FOOF"
ben_vulpes: did i hear that someone managed to get rotor to clobber their whole homedir?
ben_vulpes: sleep?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what is with you and unsanitary working conditions
ben_vulpes: anyways, doesn't get hot enough to do the radiant trick, you end up heating the whole place instead of the place where you are.
ben_vulpes: oh lol
ben_vulpes: takes mega current
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: electric is the *worst*
ben_vulpes: co co
ben_vulpes: c0*
ben_vulpes: that was a fun day
ben_vulpes: only time i ever came close to death by co2 was operating the concrete cutter in someone's basement
ben_vulpes: yeah well get a bigger shop
ben_vulpes: "science doesn't suck -- it blows!"
ben_vulpes: you want the eye of sauron: mr heater mh15t
ben_vulpes: is that /plastic/?
ben_vulpes: oh jeez
ben_vulpes: well, "most" relative to volume of shop.
ben_vulpes: which one? and why unendurable?
ben_vulpes: plus very tall ceilings
ben_vulpes: co poisoning not really an issue, it's a slow flow over some steel mesh, more or less everything burns off on the mesh going to co2
ben_vulpes: also blew crap all over the shop while i was finishing tables and whatnot, so eventually decommissioned.
ben_vulpes: did not work as well as the radiant attachments atop the propane tank
ben_vulpes: pumped water through the furnace, up to our shop, and through an old car radiator with a fan behind it.
ben_vulpes: BUT SO AWESOME
ben_vulpes: horrendously noisy
ben_vulpes: 'twas outside
ben_vulpes maggot, proud to find free energy around
ben_vulpes: there was a chinese restaurant giving it away up the street!
ben_vulpes: furnace was for heating warehouse where i was working
ben_vulpes: learned that turbo machinery is clearly the correct solution
ben_vulpes: piston was for lulzy undergraduate water cooled lfr engine design with reciprocating pistons to pressurize fuel lines
ben_vulpes: piston or furnace?
ben_vulpes: actually the waste oil furnace was pretty good
ben_vulpes regards the vast pile of oddities that sorta-worked
ben_vulpes: like everything else i do.
ben_vulpes: didn't! at all!
ben_vulpes once attempted to fab a piston
ben_vulpes: yeah well who knows how the trajectory actually draws through the possibility space
ben_vulpes: gotta kill the megastates first though.
ben_vulpes: ofc one could also do entirely away with the 'cc' part.
ben_vulpes: anyways an entirely viable future is one wherein the various lords with computing gear remaining in the closet operate their own bitcoind variants as local banks, holding chits for the peasants and reconciling over shortwave gpggram
ben_vulpes: aha carbides
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: myes, i can see this
ben_vulpes: hawala, then?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform i'm suffering from a failure of imagination--care to link me to the thread where you explain how a cc would work without miners?
ben_vulpes: very causation
ben_vulpes: mornin
ben_vulpes: meet farket
ben_vulpes: > fee market
ben_vulpes: exwm and the reference implementation are ~90% of my current compute goals
ben_vulpes: i had emacs in x11
ben_vulpes: mine did obsd just fine, didn't want to accelerate videocards though
ben_vulpes: great vintage
ben_vulpes: srsly not the kahlua
ben_vulpes: sorry, the relentless carblogger threads have me twisted
ben_vulpes: oh wait this is fiat currency not fiat cars
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the fiat involvement is not clear
ben_vulpes: sorry, $client left many bottles of homemade kahlua at the office
ben_vulpes: i'm playing *gentoo quest* most recently...
ben_vulpes: er
ben_vulpes: i'm playing openbsd quest most recently, as openbsd didn't do drivers or reference implementation compilation
ben_vulpes: what kind of linux, what kind of mbp?
ben_vulpes: phf: funny you should mention this
ben_vulpes: buy cars and not computers. have no representation in the wot.
ben_vulpes: adherence to the modernist forms notwithstanding.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: they /are/ barbarians.
ben_vulpes: where'd it cut off?
ben_vulpes: but now i am a man and i hang fools by my own hand
ben_vulpes: once i was a child, i extended them as much rope as i thought they'd need to hang themselves
ben_vulpes: i don't extend the robert viragh s of the world nearly so much rope as i did before
ben_vulpes: should punindented come back, it must be on his knees.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 'twas so banal as to be entirely unremarkable
ben_vulpes: how quickly do the rest of you feel like burning your identities?
ben_vulpes: so that's one of the four new faces
ben_vulpes: !up punindented
ben_vulpes: punindented: you may continue this conversation here
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.punindented.-1:fdd8264a25a95bfb8946055ada53326a3a54a99c6cf8594b6f5effcaae04d145
ben_vulpes: !rate punindented -1 unwelcome here
ben_vulpes: > plum role
ben_vulpes: one of those interesting $50 now or $2500 in three week problems i can solve due to hilariously checkered background
ben_vulpes at office, fixing fancy couch $bzprtnr bought a year ago
ben_vulpes: more new faces?
ben_vulpes: literal bottom feeders.
ben_vulpes: mk.
ben_vulpes: > t bars
ben_vulpes: so they're a glorified waste-processing plant.
ben_vulpes: plus costs of molds, does it cast? forge? roll?
ben_vulpes: steel mill doesn't make sense to operate unless operated continually, no small-batch fabber is going to do so.
ben_vulpes: even $robofab i worked for one time had their castings done by a casting company.
ben_vulpes: hard to make a small steel mill. the things tend to be huge and dominate the area or go out of business.
ben_vulpes: http://news.mit.edu/2016/nanophotonic-incandescent-light-bulbs-0111 << luminous efficiency is a reprehensible scam
ben_vulpes: lovely highway driver, though.
ben_vulpes: i can hear the damn thing depreciating just driving around town.
ben_vulpes: 'twas built for glass-smooth late seventies roads.
ben_vulpes: this is actually my greatest lament about the corvette
ben_vulpes: far better to be useful helping mod6 than to waste time like me on deadlang impls that don't even work
ben_vulpes: i do not buy this "they're all turing complete, so what's the aggro?" line.
ben_vulpes: did we do the hundred and forty line node version of kill -9 yet?
ben_vulpes: punindented: please no js
ben_vulpes: please no node
ben_vulpes: no node
ben_vulpes: huh
ben_vulpes: i think i understand what you're driving at
ben_vulpes: yes this i get
ben_vulpes: mod6: im still a bit unclear as to what "precedence levels" refers
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: weev's tracker
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "we'll give you a zillion dollars provided you spend it all designing and producing our next generation of home routers"?
ben_vulpes: the effect is rather beautiful.
ben_vulpes: monochrome + color inversion
ben_vulpes: heh relatedly i coerced my ipnohe into gothmode last night
ben_vulpes: someone might figure out that nothing's gotten any better since then
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lolno
ben_vulpes: what do you mean "precedence levels"
ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
ben_vulpes: i have to redo its press algo to recurse up the parents chain
ben_vulpes: last i checked did not produce trees that matched yours
ben_vulpes: mod6: eh it probably doesn't work anyways
ben_vulpes: because rEFInd does not work on the ancient mbp and the ready ways to get rEFIt onto the damned thing is to...install it from os x first.
ben_vulpes: hey pete_dushenski you may be entertained to hear that my openbsd adventures have led me to download 10.6 and dd it onto a usb
ben_vulpes: it*
ben_vulpes: makes for low snr is what is does
ben_vulpes: of the suburbs of soi-disant cities in provinces nobody visits anyways
ben_vulpes: seriously, vagrants publishing pamphlets in the far flung outskirts
ben_vulpes: who cares
ben_vulpes: > js << lolwutwho
ben_vulpes: punkman: a right
ben_vulpes: (and ty, jurov)
ben_vulpes: logz plz
ben_vulpes: even if you don't move the coins around, would you show your charge and account for its not moving in donations?
ben_vulpes: i'd really rather the books show the expected expenses, jurov.
ben_vulpes: o tru
ben_vulpes never understood the 'broomstick' line
ben_vulpes: ffs.
ben_vulpes: ddos?
ben_vulpes: but also the startup short requires tending to the egos of those being shorted.
ben_vulpes: somewhat.
ben_vulpes: one of not crossing bezzle and bitcoin streams.