mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not prepared to go into microbiological details of smallpox. but even admitting vaccine saved 10, heck, 20% of the population. then what ?
mircea_popescu: which permits them to live.
mircea_popescu: they are protected however still, because "herd immunity", which is to say OTHER people not gettng it artificially reduces the "population density" from the pov of that pathogen.
mircea_popescu: but more's the pojnt : even in very genetically diverse populations (such as yurpeans, because colonialism! such as not redskins, because stoneage losers), a good portion of the population has poor vaccine response.
asciilifeform: but among the remainder ~10%
mircea_popescu: usually fatal the first time.
mircea_popescu: vacciness work through stimulating the expression of pre existing genes/proteins/complexes, not by creating a magical forcefield around your dick.)
mircea_popescu: all these proteins are created, mostly in the liver, on the basis of blueprints, which are encoded genetically. which means that if your father didn't have anywhere a marker for smallpox, and he had you with a woman who also, you are immune to vaccination : it won't express anything.
mircea_popescu: (to explain the science involved : immunity works as a multi layered interplay of numerous proteins. some recognize specific bits of cells - hopefully, pathogens only, or else autoimmune response - some mark these recognitions, some others further mark, it's a whole shebang.
asciilifeform: hypothetical alt-indians, lol.
asciilifeform: well not these.
mircea_popescu: the indians didn't stand a chance. if you think vaccination works in aboriginal population you're a very special sort of lovely.
asciilifeform: if the indians were clever and looked as if they were at risk for discovering vaccination , quarantine, etc. and laughing off smallpox blankets, how might equally clever englishmen have countered ?
mircea_popescu: gotta whiten, it's the cryptographical priviledge check.
mircea_popescu: "here's how we're being respectful to one another, because god forbid if someone should speak plainly we might hear about all those classes we skipped in college."
asciilifeform: there is a fundamental (and solidly boecktronically-supported and propagated) misconception about what cryptography even IS
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [17:40:27] <asciilifeform> 'Data coming from true random number generators is never 100% random. I am aware of no exceptions. Whitening is required in all cases before the data is suitable for use in cryptography.' << from first link
mircea_popescu: yeah but the wrong one.
asciilifeform: iirc he turned the knob to 'spit 1 line'
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:383/to:793#383 << lol wtf is with the derpage.
asciilifeform: at least their opponents spoke HUMAN SPEECH
asciilifeform: in retrospect, the folks lysenko was shooting, had it good.
asciilifeform: 'Third, develop a capability to eliminate unwanted engineered genes from environments and restore systems to their genetic baseline state.' << wat.
asciilifeform: which is the source of ~100% of '5 reasons north kr is CRAYYYYZEEE you MUST know'
asciilifeform: alternative is 'cut the thing or die trying'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the only practical alternative to 'electron moves because allah's farts push it'
mircea_popescu: trinque he has this constructed thing whereby "x must exist and the thing that must exist we call x".
trinque: no the actual egypt
trinque: or did the idiots simply outfuck
mircea_popescu: back in like...2005 iirc ? 2008 maybe ? a guy used foia to get ALL the studies on antidepressant medicine. because you know, everyone had to file them with the fda.
mircea_popescu: dude... what scientific discipline isn't stillborn in the land of the suto ? seriously now.
mircea_popescu: the principal symptom of major depressive disorder is the delusional notion on the part of the patient that his self-enacted emotional state has some sort of physical existence independent of himself.
asciilifeform: witness the stillbirth of cryptography as a scientific discipline.
asciilifeform: i can already picture mircea_popescu as ww1 officer. green cloud rolls over trench, grunts coughing out their lungs, 'stop being obnoxious bitchez!111'
mircea_popescu: these two aren't related.
asciilifeform: ya ya all these earthlings are idiots and only on this dirigible i'm d'artagnan ok.
mircea_popescu: idiots have no room in this world, which is why i hear their father got some real estate waiting for them somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yep. and they were right.
mircea_popescu: the emotional color of "atmosphere" is exactly of the same origin as the "feelings" furries perceive in animals' eyes : psychogenic.
mircea_popescu: drunks' choices are theirs to make, what am i, borderline ?
asciilifeform: another 1000 years of reich, wat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every time some dude goes 'i could try and spend 20yr and maybe come up with a sane basis for crypto --- or there's that bottle of whisky. and it looks moar like a deal' hitler wins.
mircea_popescu: wtf is this, "atmosphere". stop being an obnoxious bitch, that's the atmosphere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude gtfo. "hitler maintains". tell you what, if i fill a room with depressive thirty-yo-crisis chicks it's gonna be that "the room" has "an atmosphere". then if i kick them out and in the same atmosphere introduce happy-go-lucky nineteen year olds, suddenly the same room "has an atmosphere" of juvenile enthusiasm.
asciilifeform: the other thing about the boecks is that hitler maintains - quite successfully - an atmosphere of despair and intellectual death
asciilifeform: the occasional prisoner does dig the proverbial spoon tunnel and makes a break for it.
mircea_popescu: there's ~0 risk taleb shows up here.
mircea_popescu: odds are that most of those "susceptible to sanity" are more or less caught in a prison of their own making, elliot style. would you blame isla vista for the guy's issues ?
asciilifeform: boeck et al is to reduce the risk that taleb shows up here. etc
mircea_popescu: ie, the dumb and deaf scion of a drunk and a whore.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't buy into this "people good but evil govenrment corrupts". as near as i can see, "people suck and government does the best it can, as their product."
mircea_popescu: the pretense that they may start any minute now is broadly speaking that - a pretense. who knows, maybe you send the advance fee.
mircea_popescu: the folks "susceptible to sanity" are like the women "susceptible to porn queening". honey, if they were gonna they'd have been doing it already.
mircea_popescu: "we control the vertical and the" "how come i can't have a fucking gallon of gas ?" "oh sorry about that... nothing we can do."
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, there is a population of folks susceptible to sanity. who, were they to show up here, by same happenstance, e.g., asciilifeform , did, would stand constructively on tmsr side.
mircea_popescu: it barely holds together as a thing, and adversarially only.
asciilifeform: this leads into the sacramental question of why 'control the vertical and the horizontal! gott mit uns!111' is a thing at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you may find power analysis a useful tool in this discussion. what exactly CAN any of these do ?
mircea_popescu: upon examination it came out that neither have any relation to the thing they were posturing in front of.
mircea_popescu: verty until I saw an opportunity to be a member of the great Illuminati brotherhood and I took my chances and I have been a member for close to three years now and the higher you get the richer you become." whereas gavin started life pretending to be in charge of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: the only difference being that khaleed started life pretending to, and here i quote, "I am one of the agents sent by the high priest to bring as many of those who are interested in becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great Illuminati temple,am a traditional herbalist healer and no problem without a solution to me but I was ones like you I could not evening feed my family what kind of life was that to live I lived in po
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:32 mircea_popescu: aha. except there's no "you've been inmissed". the way words work in actual languages is that you institute (say a rule) and you destitute (eg a functionary).
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537491 << you can say somebody was instituted into a position when they are given a job
asciilifeform: and there's a chair up YOUR arse
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like how a train wreck is just another train wreck, unless it's ~YOUR~ train wreck
asciilifeform: trinque: there was no 'merit' implied in 'anointed poodle'
trinque: one just won the hitler lottery
asciilifeform: from the parking orbit of mircea_popescu's dirigible, somewhere past pluto, both look quite similar yes.
asciilifeform: there is certainly a wide 'gray zone' of buterinade between gavin and covertress .
mircea_popescu: ie, one stars in random-lj-x, other in random-lj-y ; one sits in cafes and wonders, other sits in cafes and wonders.
asciilifeform: one starts on front page of völkischer beobachter and american tv, the other - sits in cafes sadly and wonders why it gets 51%ed for 7th time
mircea_popescu: ironically, both eth and whatever-that-was got raped. i'm all ears, you picked like the worst examples conceivable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, re the derp circus : as long as you publish on the internet, there's going to be some "businessman" trying to republish your content, and spam it around. none of this is particulary surprising or worth the mention or anything. not like original publication isn't firmly established. so let them beat up the wall until they've had enough or the bezzle runs out, whichever.
mircea_popescu: "noun". what the everloving fuck "noun". you mean substantive ? "oh no mp, that's an adverb". "doubleplusmata."\
mircea_popescu: then mp is all fucking annoyed, "wtf is with these idiots, they rip out some bit off culture, give it a name and strut around". doh. this is what the fucking language trains them to do in the first place.
mircea_popescu: at least hungarians know they've been cursed with stupid.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure there is a cure. "oh foreign languages are hard." "well of fucking course they're are, you frittered away your 3-5yo interval of brain plasticity on learning adspeak."
asciilifeform: it is a brain-melter to the poor natives, most of'em never get past own initial 'la la can't hear you' reaction
mircea_popescu: it's not "the environment" vaguely like that. it is, first and foremost, the language.
mircea_popescu: and then ends up predictably stupid in a certain way. /me thinks "environment" is not properly said to be a large factor - other than poor genetics of being sheepfuckers in the first place - in the apparition of SUTO.
asciilifeform: monkey inheriting man's tools rips the 'excess' knobs off, first thing.
mircea_popescu: shinohai lol. it's "you've been destituted" though. because you know, there's a functioning of past participle
asciilifeform: take their 'losing' various features
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: degeneration to monkey is directly observable with naked eye among the englishers
mircea_popescu: meanwhile english is basically this language of some superficial twerps who noticed the effects (destitute, ie poor, right ? institute, ie, the building where they do them town things, right ?)
mircea_popescu: aha. except there's no "you've been inmissed". the way words work in actual languages is that you institute (say a rule) and you destitute (eg a functionary).
mircea_popescu: and in other "what makes languages dumb",
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
Framedragger: thru other services and just plain syn flood or w/e
Framedragger: of course of course; but as was stated multiple times, it's about making things more *difficult* / costly for adversaries. you can always slippery slope into "such powerful adversary with infinite motivation" and win the argument - and that's legit, sure
trinque: having the www separate, yes
Framedragger: the "but kant" homage to mp (maybe?) made me lol btw :D
Framedragger: well i'm just returning the snark eh :p
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:798/to:798#798 << yeah i have! it's really neat. have you? :) the larger part of the code is in trinque's *ircbot*, btw. logbot plugs in very nicely. but fact of the matter is, http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/irc_logging.txt would be orthogonal, i.e. the two can be devleoped independently, to a degree
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 18:49 mircea_popescu: pretty ridoinculous seeing how half the time i fuck girl with knees together.
asciilifeform: this pill, like other pills, only works if YOU TAKE IT however.
trinque: this is one of the blessings of V.
trinque: but on the subj, I didn't put together a bot and the wot mechanics to like, run in there and make my name!
ben_vulpes: fella probably doesn't know the source is kicking around
trinque: ben_vulpes: why would anyone read republican code when there are shithubs to pilfer and tape together
asciilifeform: so all of the boeckian products are recognizably similar in their nonsensical dance around the question
asciilifeform: we have here an arguable case of 'что русскому хорошо, то немцу — смерть' -- they cannot risk to import sanity.
asciilifeform: gotta love the UPGRADEABLE!11111 usb micros, too
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that no servant of hitler ever need formally commision 'boeckware' - it is produced 'naturally', by herd of teenage imbecile alice_s
asciilifeform: from 2nd link : https://keithp.com/pictures/chaoskey-sch.pdf << illustrative of all of the ills
asciilifeform: 'Data coming from true random number generators is never 100% random. I am aware of no exceptions. Whitening is required in all cases before the data is suitable for use in cryptography.' << from first link
asciilifeform: phf: they've been surfacing for 20 years.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like they're going for a 'догоним и перегоним' tack re phuctor etc.
asciilifeform: ly as it allows global adversaries to exploit this vulnerability class on a large scale. However we think that any determined attacker can repeat our research and get the private keys from publicly available firmware with ease.'
asciilifeform: well. These might be used in other protocols such as EAP/802.1X, FTPS etc. The data we are publishing allows researchers to reproduce the results of our study, find more cases or cryptographic key reuse, attribute cryptographic keys to specific vendors/products, but also to develop tools for detecting and exploiting this vulnerability class in the course of penetration tests. Releasing the private keys is not something we take light
asciilifeform: http://blog.sec-consult.com/2016/09/house-of-keys-9-months-later-40-worse.html << herr boeck drops privkeys : 'The data we are publishing consists of 331 certificates including the matching private key as well as 553 individual private keys. We've also included the names of products that contain the certificates/keys. Cryptographic keys that were not found in Internet-wide scan data (Scans.io and Censys.io, HTTPS/SSH) are included as
asciilifeform: lel, half the list.
asciilifeform: the #1 entry is gut-bustingly lulzy to asciilifeform , because i spend ~half year auditing a multilinear-map thing for $rupturefarm, and even was sent to a 'conference' where 'serious cryptographers' did not even blink when someone walked in with a proof that whole thing was crock of shit
shinohai: Use our system, and leave the pesky key-handling to us!
trinque: I don't know what they think this does.
asciilifeform: and meanwhile, '"The Web-of-Trust is a geek's instrument", "Hard to explain" says Werner Koch'
mircea_popescu: not worried as much as you know, "they care about us" sorta delusion.
asciilifeform: in other noose, remember the 'riseup' derpatron? the one with the, what, dozen phuctur pops ? well, https://archive.is/PEVaX
asciilifeform: the derps were seriously worried that... what ?
asciilifeform: even in american school 'the prince' is read. or, was.
PeterL: speaking of books, mircea_popescu have you read "The Prince" by Machiavelli? I have been reading it and for some reason it made me think of you (though I expect you would read it in the original Italian?)
asciilifeform: (though for some reason i can't seem to turn up the log)
asciilifeform: a while ago i briefly considered showing up at the 'pgp conference' but decided against. there is a difference between entomologist and those fellas who fuck wasp hives
asciilifeform: previously the weevils were largely careful to avoid being seen in one room.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not regard the now-explicit cooperation of koch with boeck as uninteresting.
asciilifeform: 'Plagiarize !! Let no one else's work evade your eyes ! Remember why the good Lord made your eyes ! So don't shade your eyes !' (tm) (r) (tom lehrer)
mircea_popescu: you seem to be ~the only one who cares about that particular fanclub though.
asciilifeform: at the 'pgp conference',
asciilifeform: haven't yet sawed open a set of these.
asciilifeform: incidentally i have nfi whether that dot is camera or just ir probe.
asciilifeform pictures the peter thiel call: t. cook's phone rings. thiel: 'ipnoje is not surveillatronic enough. hitler is displeased. the lien on your left ball will be called in.' cook: 'what do we do' thiel: 'well, you could make'em wear earphones with cameras' cook: 'brilliant, 360 degree coverage' thiel: 'it'd better be out by september'
mircea_popescu: which is most of the reason chicks even get headphones.
asciilifeform: and also: 'The beauty of the headphone cable is just like the beauty of a tampon string: it is there to help you keep track of a very important item, and help you fish it out of whatever nook and cranny it might have fallen into.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Uow3O << mega-lol: 'These air pod headphone things aren't visible enough to signal to men that I don't want them to talk to me'
asciilifeform: 'By this time the smell of any other food gave me hunger pangs; I walked past a pizza place and nearly cried.'
asciilifeform: in other olds, 'However, after two days of eating MealSquares, I was desperate for anything else. I wolfed down my tupperware of weird gruel almost immediately upon getting to the office on Wednesday morning. It was the opposite of the problem I'd had with the MealSquares, which took me so long to get down that I wasn't physically able to consume enough calories in one day to properly function.'
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 19:27 asciilifeform: 'AirPods will use Infrared sensors to detect when they’re in your ears, playing only when they’re in your ears. The setup process is super easy — connect the AirPods once to your iPhone, and the AirPods instantly sync over iCloud to your other devices. From there, you never worry about them again.' >> oblig. >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752
asciilifeform: http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/256205-thumb/AirPods-header.jpg << is it just me or do these look like... smokes ?
mircea_popescu: "Whilst the misguided follower climbs with pain mountains of whimseys, heaped in his own brain, stumbling from thought to thought, falls headlong down into doubt's boundless sea where, like to drown, books bear him up awhile, and make him try to swim with bladders of philosophy."
asciilifeform: iirc asciilifeform was the one with the ru poets, phf - with french poets and lions, mircea_popescu - with cinematic. etc
mircea_popescu pictures someone who actually feels shame over not having read the references here. imagine! you got "i used to fuck lions in kindergarten" alf ; native russian poet afficionado and whatever else phf is, then there's the cinematic tradition, and the...
asciilifeform: i have the tome here.
asciilifeform: the one with sea monsters, two-headed children, etc.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [16:03:08] <asciilifeform> pretty lulzy, motherfucking 16TH CENTURY b00k, is NOWHERE on the net.
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:656/to:656#656 << out of curiosity, what book would that be? (not the fictional one within eco's name of the rose i assume??)
mircea_popescu: incidentally : man and lion have rather comparable penii in size. except the cat, like most cats, has keratin penile spikes.
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma scan the thing.
mircea_popescu: how did that go, "by the claw we know this lion"
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the book be unfair competition ?
asciilifeform: the b00k - nope.
mircea_popescu: the net has more important things to attend to.
asciilifeform: iirc they prefer to eat'em
mircea_popescu can readily see how the "african warrior" idi amin mentality would pay to fuck a lioness.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'd be unsurprised if there's a market in africa for lion prostitution.
asciilifeform: scorpion doesn't fuck lion on actual planet3 either.
mircea_popescu: anyway. hyenas are not cats, like lions are, but dogs. even if they've adapted into as much catness as possible. so the two aren't actually sexually compatible.
asciilifeform: there is an english for folks who need.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not only that, but hyena is the more efficient.
mircea_popescu: (the animal doesn't actually exists outside of plinius, but still.)
asciilifeform: so, in 'western' parlance, 'there ain't room enough in this here town for the two of'em'
asciilifeform: well they do occupy overlapping meat niche
mircea_popescu: for the curious, leucrota is what happens when a hyena fucks a lioness.
asciilifeform: heads, leucrota, manticores, vultures, paranders, weasels, dragons, hoopoes, owls, basilisks, hypnales, presters, spectafici, scorpions, saurians, whales, scitales, amphisbenae, iaculi, dipsases, green lizards, pilot fish, octopi, morays, and sea turtles.' -- eco's 'name of the rose'
asciilifeform: ' fauns, beings of double sex, brutes with six-fingered hands, sirens, hippocentaurs, gorgons, harpies, incubi, dragopods, minotaurs, lynxes, pards, chimeras, cynophales who darted fire from their nostrils, crocodiles, polycaudate, hairy serpents, salamanders, horned vipers, tortoises, snakes, two-headed creatures whose backs were armed with teeth, hyenas, otters, crows, hydrophora with saw-tooth horns, frogs, gryphons, monkeys, dog-
mircea_popescu: DCPvGSCoADD. << the list.
phf: above is ascii's (rather respectable) list of important items and valuables
asciilifeform: a c-grinder will also, should its lid come off, happily continue to fly (yes) around the kitchen, grinding whatever ends up in its path, drywall, chairs, people, van goghs, stradivaris, crates of ammunition, dogs, dildos.
mircea_popescu: this is like you know, "this coffee grinder - doesn't grind coffee". this is pretty serious - what the fuck does it do then ?
mircea_popescu: moreover, if it DOESN'T do that, then wtf does it do.
mircea_popescu: the position has, broadly speaking, endured.
mircea_popescu: young mps idea of what a compiler does was, "well it basically completely unwinds the code, so it's all flat, and then checks everything". then young mp saw the first "runtime error" and locked. then told teacher this isn't real programming and he's not interested.
asciilifeform: nor does c-machine enable restarts (how many programming folk even ~CONCEIVE~ of the notion of meaningfully RESUMING a crashed proggy ?)
asciilifeform: (because there is no way to guarantee cleanup)
asciilifeform: stroustrup ~perceived~ the problem, but did not, in his cpp, solve it - cpp has 'exceptions' but lacks, e.g., common lisp's 'unwind-protect' ( http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?UnwindProtect ) and so error conditions still result in rubbish
asciilifeform: c (but more importantly, the c ~machine~, with its single hardware stack) encourages, and just about mandates the 'crashing is acceptable because there is NO practical way to handle ALL error conditions sanely' idiocy.
mircea_popescu: needless to say, the only thing that occurs through osmosis is an unwarranted conviction that she knows how to do it, and a block towards examination.
mircea_popescu: and no, northern hemisphere is not exceptional. us especially not exceptional.
mircea_popescu: but yes, part of hte problem with extant c, as a language but more importantly as a paradigm and society, is that there's no way to build trust.
asciilifeform: well there is no room to 'trust' in c.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 14:20 mircea_popescu: then again, trust-but-verify is the correct approach anyway.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537207 << mircea_popescu when the girls bring you a cup of tea, how would you like to ALWAYS have to sniff first to make sure that it is tea and not liquishit or piss ?
mircea_popescu: learning. it's an impossible. so say the greeks.
mircea_popescu: aand in other lelz, "I can't imagine any foreigner writing down 3 lines of non error text for my life of it. Greeks are not easy to be mastered and he is using them without a mistake. what is considered to be an exception even in between Greeks."
asciilifeform: what i meant was that i see 0 reason why any 1 of the multiple items ought to be of this form.
Framedragger: there could be multiple monstrosities like this, tho!
asciilifeform: (why is the thing horizontal??)
asciilifeform: more interestingly, https://archive.is/78NoN : 'Jund al Aqsa, an al Qaeda front group in Syria, has released a video showing one of its small drones dropping a bomb on Syrian regime forces in Hama province. The unguided bomb doesn’t appear to have been especially effective, but the video is noteworthy because it documents the Sunni jihadis’ further experimentation with explosives....'
asciilifeform: elsewhere, https://archive.is/oypYD << dude does 16y in american prison, let out, wants (yes) back in, they won't take him, so he shoots a few cops
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/pibt2 << in other noose. (stein is a crackpot pres candidate in usa)
mircea_popescu: oh and in other news : meat is delicious! http://67.media.tumblr.com/0f852db83aa06e198914fe61336de00c/tumblr_obra4aaks81so15avo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: 'the problem is that neither Unix nor Windows _actually_ support either C or C++, but they manage to make them work, with downright incredible effort. if you look inside the libraries and see how a system call actually works and how much it differs from the C calling convention and usage, you'd be a fool not to revise your opinion. and _does_ an operating system that forces the programmer to check to see whether the operating syste
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 13:41 mircea_popescu: half the shit you do with c is check whether something was initialized properly. HALF!
asciilifeform: new - then yes.
asciilifeform: because ain't nobody gonna read the WHOLE THING just to audit a stylemorphed copy.
mircea_popescu: they're both things, devoid of "rights", or importance or anything of that nature. and they're both worse than useless, which is to say eat more than produce.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the linked item is illustrative of how to flamethrower away automake.
mircea_popescu: there's no difference between random dude with bizarro identity issues and random lib with bizarro code footprint
Framedragger: i think my tolerance levels are (finally) decreasing in some kind of accelerated fashion, hopefully in line with growing experience, but there's still ways to go. but yeah, war it is
mircea_popescu: take the alice character from earlier. the inclination of ~anyone, other than me/us/whatever would be to say "well, let her be, maybe who knows one day does something useful". except it does nothing useful, it only clutters things.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i went to war against the 'culture' long ago.
mircea_popescu: no, it's just the sad effect of runaway tolerance.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: "Everything pertaining to Automake was nuked" - so nice. i used to doubt (or maybe i still do - in itself a healthy habit, perhaps) whether i didn't *get* something fundamental in modern s/w development. (maybe i still don't, of course). "shitloads of build targets and convoluted build chain? maybe there's no way more elegant? i must be a truly stupid person."
Framedragger: that does sound like a plan. total failover scenario #1 recorded, then
Framedragger: but, yeah, shit code all over the place
asciilifeform: the old cryptolib, by this token, was gmp. as seen here, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1533
mircea_popescu: "how about you know, an actual car tyre ?" "sorry bro. use the headphones or build your own store."
mircea_popescu: "this is the tyre store" "do you have tyres ?" "yes, here's an apple audio jack" "this is not a tyre" "allegedly."
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the very notion of a cryptolib being cryptoimplementation shows stupid at the seams.
Framedragger: (there's djb's NaCl, but it's EC)
asciilifeform: it is by far the fastest horse in this glue factory.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at the moment musl is my stdlib.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger he's working on it, if you didn't guess from all the "scriptable cryptosystem" talk.
Framedragger: dude, a first-on-the-planet decent cryptolib would be nice
mircea_popescu really has little use for the shit currently shipping with c as a stdlib.
asciilifeform: the thing is deliberately designed 'ms-dos'-style
mircea_popescu: well, bash/quotebot rather than imdb quote db i think.
asciilifeform: phf's btcbase.org/patches has the canonical.
mircea_popescu: you're going to corrupt all my words people into code people, and then we'll have what, eliza write qntra ?
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000104.html << dumpblock with illustration.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-30 19:12 ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works
Framedragger: but in all seriousness, i'm a bit afraid, but it may be good education for me. not that i see this as a game to be fucked up at the first step
Framedragger: i heard there was, like, a way to, like, store results from a dynamic system, to be served in a static manner
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jus' sayin', it's a little more elbow grease to dump and eat the whole blockchain than to just make a copy
mircea_popescu: btw Framedragger, you realise that once i link you, the bots will notice, and you'll eventually get the phf treatment, a month or w/e later ?
mircea_popescu: but to be perfectly fair - it's pretty much the mental default of bois, so. the 1 in 10ish or so dominant chick is probably a larger percentage of the respective population.
Framedragger: they become submissive by entering mp aura zone
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me has profile on bdsm site. a good third of the others checking it out are self-styled dominant dudes.