mircea_popescu: these "social sciences" idiots. so don't you know, online polls are "unscientific" because they're "opt-in", ie they reflect the views of people who wish their views reflected. meanwhile their "scientific" polls are what, they call people up, ask them some questions, and if those people hang up they ??? get a court order ? get the schmuck sentenced to jail without a definite term, us style, "the key is in your pocket mr!" ?
phf: hmm, half the book is about evasi0n and pangu though. i guess the overall exploitation techniques remain the same across devices
trinque: the usg.* of it all. insanity tentacles.
trinque: I went searching for a link on the subj and every rag says "we grow (inflate) at x% per year! we'll have infinity funbux by then!"
mircea_popescu: no it's ok, they'll just raise awareness.
trinque: then you've got the unfunded liabilities bomb (social security, federal pensions, whatever else)
mod6: "The election is merely a fight over who gets to be the band conductor while the Titanic sinks. And the debt is precisely the reason for this." << https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/while-media-obsesses-over-pussygate-us-debt-soars-to-19-7-trillion-20323/ << someone reads the logs
asciilifeform: ask them, not me...
mod6: im not sure how that'd work out. you might be better off putting your key on your "blog" as detailed in the logs, then just putting in a clearsigned message stating that's where one can find your pub key.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: but i don't really see the point, when you have a real probe
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-married-whore-and-the-cynful-whore/ << Trilema - The Married Whore And The Cynful Whore
asciilifeform: also... by the time that serial console works, you're past most of the interesting stuff in bios.
kmalkki: I mean the gizmo add-on board has FT232H on it, just use 2nd ttl-uart2usb
asciilifeform: well yes, the pins are brought out
asciilifeform: modding 'flashrom' so that it would use a pci bus hanging from a sage instead of the local one would be fairly simple. unfortunately i do not have time presently, being deep into something quite else.
asciilifeform: kmalkki: i reversed it, the spi is written the same way it would be if you were running, e.g., 'flashrom', on the board - by issuing pci writes
kmalkki: I never had much success with it either
asciilifeform: kmalkki: the sage edk is shitware
kmalkki: also sage edk did not work with some other SPI vendor part I had
mircea_popescu: PeterL aha there's also that
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how does one get an x86-64 proggy to run on a bare cpu like the gizmo?
asciilifeform: works until the folks in white coats come to take the napoleon to the other napoleons.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-28 19:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: strauss is a (now very old) man who was involved with some of the '70s derpistans (actual attempts at island 'nations' by american jokers). worth reading if only for zoological purposes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-28#900429 << the canonical 'micronations' thread.
BingoBoingo: Texas has natural allies in Missouri, Oklahoma, and R-Kansas against california so long as the war does not start during College football season
PeterL: I remember when I was freshman in college, we got freshmen together for welcoming assembly. Speaker says anybody from California (people poliely raise hands), etc. until anybody from texas? (thunderous applause/shouting)
shinohai: Some day my grandchildren will ask me: "How did people pay for their morning coffee before #BitcoinUnlimited?"
PeterL: I agree, Texas would probably win. Texans are much more likely to identify as "Texan" than most other parts of the country would identify as their state's.
BingoBoingo: Fucking Copycats https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/12/will-you-become-a-citizen-of-asgardia-the-first-nation-state-in-space
BingoBoingo: Not to mention Texas has a string of ready allies to the north provided war breaks out along mostly ideological lines
mircea_popescu: if you take out dallas and ft worth the texans might actually thank you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the whole arsenal is in working order, which it is not, it's barely sufficient to not do anything to texas, seeing how look at the fucking surface.
mircea_popescu: that ca 330k vs texas 299k is utter bullshit. people are not equal ; my first day in texas was spent in a small town where the mayor was presenting an award to a 70 yo woman who, while eating a sandwhich at a diner, took out a .45 from her purse and blew the brains out of some mexican kid that was trying to hold up the place at knife point. they were giving her a plaque and everything.
asciilifeform: suppose the rockets in north dakota still work.
PeterL: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-marine-explains-which-state-would-win-if-the-us-declared-war-on-itself-2015-7 << here is a fun story
thestringpuller: so. Ethereum's chain is grew 10gb yesterday
asciilifeform home, catches up on the lulz
shinohai: "[Global Notice] Hi all, while our temporary frexit took slightly longer than anticipated the network should now be starting to normalise, services will be returning momentarily and hopefully it has not caused the pound to plummet any further! Thank you for your patience!"
mircea_popescu: are we fucking done installing the taps already ?
shinohai: !~weather
BingoBoingo: Best prank gift for the gardener in your life http://www.selectivegardener.com/African-Violets/African-Violet-Specialty-Varieties/4IN-Optimara-NeverFloris-p460.html
BingoBoingo: Anyways it's been a while since a scammer got any attention for backing a coin with a physical substance and that was urea coin tard guy who didn't grok that urea is renewable. In continuing with the wHorticulture theme someone ought to start a Perlite coin.
shinohai is losing touch with the huffers
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/butt-erin-seeks-another-bailout-fork/ << Qntra - Butt-erin Seeks Another Bailout Fork
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Pls to self proofread future submissions at least a little bit. Also no more "mETH" or "ETH". Qntra style dictates "Ether" "Huffers" "Huffing" and "Huffing bag"
mircea_popescu: iirc they said as much
mircea_popescu: they have the psychosis for flailing aimlessly and continuing as-if, however. so they will.
mats: circling the wagons and going home, or some violent death throes involving another useless war
mircea_popescu: they were some of the worst trained officers in the history of turkish armed forces.
mircea_popescu: "Turkey has fired hundreds of senior military staff serving at NATO in Europe and the United States following Julys coup attempt, documents show, broadening a purge to include some of the armed forces best-trained officials." <<< except "most esltardian" does not mean "best trained". in fact, it means the opposite.
mircea_popescu: aha. and if there was an actual attack, ie, 5k to 50k flying objects as opposed t oa piddly single fire, they'd be underwater.
mats: from the looks of things, the SM-2 as well as the ESSM systems didn't properly intercept incoming
mats: .ir and .ru must be rubbing their hands in glee, they got to see the Nulka and SM-2 (USN's primary surface-to-air missile) deployed in actual combat
mircea_popescu: cognac can be added at the end on a per glass basis.
mircea_popescu: in other kickass smoothie news : seven almonds, a dab of purely dark chocolate and two cloves go in the coffee grinder ; then a banana, fresh brewed coffee, milk, ice and the ground dusts + some vanilla go in the blender.
BingoBoingo: lol: "Our Trump-supporting friend in Illinois is a surprisingly big part of the reason. In some polls, hes weighted as much as 30 times more than the average respondent, and as much as 300 times more than the least-weighted respondent."
mod6: thestringpuller: werd
mats: topically, it appears the attack on sunday was the first combat deployment of the BAE Nulka ship decoy
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/10/the-average-scam-band/ << Pull Your Own Strings - The Average Scam Band
mats: supposed houthis took another shot at us navy ship today
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure the utter failure of obama I + II is all trump's fault.
mircea_popescu: tell me more about how you believed what the government told you and then it didn't work out in practice.
mircea_popescu: much to everyone's couldn't have predicted, there's no genuine MARKET in child porn etc.
mircea_popescu: Making Bitcoin-based networks to sell taboo erotica was very hip for a few months last year. None of those networks ever made a single successful sale to the best of my knowledge (I tried many of them, never got anything more than annoyed emails from fans asking why the website didn't work). As far as I know, this is no longer a thing. I'm not aware of any Bitcoin site that allows you to sell any kind of digital erotica." <<
mircea_popescu: shinohai that's what the guy meant by cubic :p
thestringpuller: MtGox is totes okay guise. I saw bank statements and letters from lawyers. It's the traditional banking systems fault!!!111
AaronvanW: BingoBoingo: someone mentioned something a couple of days ago. but that was not a connection problem, I just had to step away from my laptop from time to time and logged off when I did. either way I don't think there should be any further problems from here on out.
BingoBoingo: AaronvanW: It's a recurring problem. I believe other people have previously tried leaving notes for you on this point for a while now.
AaronvanW: BingoBoingo: I've been offline all day and just logged onto IRC for the first time today...
BingoBoingo: AaronvanW: You are joining and parting the channel frequently. It's kinda spammy. Perhaps look into setting up a bouncer on a more stable connection?
shinohai: Apparently, wifi connections run on windmill blades there.
BingoBoingo: b1thoven: From there figure out how everything fits together. If it makes sense and you aren't Cursing satoshi and later contributors read again until you find understanding. It is far better to understand than be understood.
shinohai: b1thoven: start here http://thebitcoin.foundation/
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/blockchain-info-is-down-apparently-people-still-had-wallets-there/ << Qntra - Blockchain.info Is Down – Apparently People Still Had Wallets There
BingoBoingo: "A willingness to put in the work, and especially to go that extra inch, makes all the difference in the world." << A+++ wordplay
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 13:00 trinque: http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a23336/the-pentagon-wants-to-use-bitcoin-technology-to-guard-nuclear-weapons/ << holy crap.
shinohai: ^ yeah saw that yesterday, think I posted another link about it, lulzy stuff
trinque: http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a23336/the-pentagon-wants-to-use-bitcoin-technology-to-guard-nuclear-weapons/ << holy crap.
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/10/bitcoin-four-years-in/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Bitcoin – Four Years In
mircea_popescu: there's nothing quite as lulzy as a middle aged woman who thinks herself smart. except, of course, for a group of them.
mircea_popescu: mats> bit shocked he's not getting shut out on the basis of hate speech tbh << he's the officially designated muppet to cover that area, the idea being that he'll outcompete the genuine plants in the niche, while being firmly loyal to the system.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-12 03:13 mircea_popescu: "Our win probabilities come from simulating the election 20,000 times, which produces a distribution of possible outcomes for each state. Here are the expected margins of victory. The closer the dot is to the center line, the tighter the race." << ahahaha wtf is this, global warming science applied to politics ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-12#1554993 << somebody call rand corp, iirc they have patent on crapolade 'sim'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Some dude who asked a question at the "town hall"
BingoBoingo: https://stlouis.craigslist.org/mis/5823407751.html https://archive.is/vEdzJ << Other debate lulz from Sunday
mats: "Milo: ‘100% Of Fat People Are F**ing Gross’ ... Speaking in full drag to an audience of cheering conservative students, Milo explained why fatties need to put down the Bic Macs."
mats: "Milo: Why Islamic Preachers Prey On Gingers ... MILO explained why gingers are more likely to become Islamic extremists — because they’re ugly and unloved."
mats: "MILO: Feminist Control Of The Web Would Be Worse Than Giving It To China"
mats: these headlines are hilarious though
mats: bit shocked he's not getting shut out on the basis of hate speech tbh
trinque: guy might actually be one of those mythical beasts that's actually gay, rather than psychologically broken
trinque: he's gay and hates the state; no US college would accept that dissertation
mats: i had to watch a number of these videos on breitbart before i figured it out
mircea_popescu: and in other news from the 90s, http://66.media.tumblr.com/82299ae83796d3d23cd755a62fe7a562/tumblr_mu7oibCRfs1skttepo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: "Our win probabilities come from simulating the election 20,000 times, which produces a distribution of possible outcomes for each state. Here are the expected margins of victory. The closer the dot is to the center line, the tighter the race." << ahahaha wtf is this, global warming science applied to politics ?
mircea_popescu: so his theory is 48 to 44% in popular vote but 318 to 219 in electoral votes. should be funny to see how this plays out
mircea_popescu: is this the guy who ran some sort of "AI" to make predictions and then decided to "turn it off" because something sounding a lot like yakowsky or w/e the harry potter fanfic writer's name is ?
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbxJSDlrKRU << hahaha shit remember when black eyed peas tried to retcon themselves out of the "get retarded" pr problem? minaj did a whole verse as an aside in 07
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: !~later tell pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MItv-PTKaE << u savvy the cover?
BingoBoingo: In other penetrations http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ex-principia-school-student-gets--year-prison-sentence-in/article_f39225d2-abd1-5498-a32c-4b47b5076eef.html
mircea_popescu: it's particularly funny when very old nobodies keep thanking each other for each other's leadersheep. as fucking if.
asciilifeform off into the night city for a spell, bbl.
ben_vulpes: "the stuttering south african"
ben_vulpes: "young carter/go farther/go further/go harder/is that not/why we came?/and if not/then why bother?"
ben_vulpes: the one who didn't actually do anything but wrote enough about the circus that he got pulled in to play ringmaster?
trinque: that's the one
trinque: if there's a usg.antichrist it's him.
trinque: I watched that wretched interview with the Y Combinator fuck. Elon looked positively submissive.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no more sorority sluts ? << Problem is the descendents
ben_vulpes: dude was there even anything of your childhood to rot?
ben_vulpes: > whose fitful relationship culminated in a first trip down the alter
mircea_popescu: in other uninteresting nonsense, did that random whore with a non christian name get billionz off musk in divorce or how did it plkay out ?
asciilifeform: but they were subjected to various abuses.
asciilifeform: but most of the 'gizmos' died.
asciilifeform: the former
ben_vulpes: 1:1 with gizmos? or you found an supplier of the probe alone
asciilifeform: even though i keep my supply of'em right next to the macs ...
asciilifeform: lulzily, i had nfi, never once attempted to plug the thing into mac
ben_vulpes: $bizpartner (/me waves) says there is all sorts of inane horseshit involved in how os x handles devices, with odd text files and os restarts in the loop
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: much of my woes were to attempting to talk to the thing over /dev/tty.usbmodem123445671 instead of /dev/cu.usbmodem12345671
asciilifeform: it replaces the power & reset toggles.
asciilifeform: oh btw ben_vulpes i ought to have answered yesterday: there is no good reason to unplug the probesnake
ben_vulpes: and ho damn it is bad out there.
ben_vulpes: i have been touring random clubs when i take the corvette out for its weekly "please don't freeze up" runs
ben_vulpes: trinque: all that really means is that there are a bunch of shitty strippers
ben_vulpes: "not much, they're both fucking close to water"
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> what's the difference between coors light and sex in a canoe? << lol fucking close to water
trinque: "oh oh, Imperial. It is like the local Budweiser!"
mircea_popescu: (quilmes is this very shitty local swill. made through the same process as us beer / sodas : hfcs water and "naturally identical" flavouring)
ben_vulpes: what's the difference between coors light and sex in a canoe?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and drank the recycled piss?!
mircea_popescu: let it be stated i fucked in a dozen states all over the coast mkay ?
asciilifeform: then again -- naggum's too
mod6: i bout had a heart attack when i lost track of alf in the crowd.
mod6: yah, there was that bazaar or whatever ben
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dun recall if you were there, took a walk in the ghetto, chicks heard us speak english.
mod6: i should have just bought them for ya asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: can't be that, because you didn't go grab the gypsy girl by the cunt that invited you too, either.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> bout 5x the mechanical work needed for cotton. which is how cotton won (in 1800. when work was expensive) << ah, hm.
mircea_popescu: bout 5x the mechanical work needed for cotton. which is how cotton won (in 1800. when work was expensive)
asciilifeform: i still regret not buying the german gear in ba
mircea_popescu: needs some industrial process. growing's easy enough, shit's practically a marsh weed. but to get the fiber you gotta beat it.
mircea_popescu: where to get the hemp ?
mircea_popescu: back when their bulls weren't all mechanical yet.
mircea_popescu: very satisfying whack, perfect leather.
mod6: Otherwise, shitty qual.
mod6: I bought some decent leather belts for my suits here, but prepare to pay top dollar for /actual/ craftmanship and leather.
trinque: fucking sad; even the one I paid 120 for will probably fall apart next year
mircea_popescu: and b) they expect euro like salaries for some incomprehensible reason.
mircea_popescu: problem is a) they are too dumb to learn english, so they can only fight for the mexico and spanish markets
mircea_popescu: pretty much the peak of argentine technical know-how is operating call centers.
mircea_popescu: functionally illiterate ; entirely innumerate. the chinese have to run the supermarkets because the locals lack basic business ability.
mod6: it was plastered on a bunch of signs down there.
mircea_popescu: it's hysterical ; they have absolutely no fucking future.
mircea_popescu: fancy that, the revolution will not be worldwidewebbed after all!
mircea_popescu: watching the "progressive" libertards denounce "unscientific online polls" and "russian hacked internet" is pretty fucking epic.
trinque: I AM HERE, AND THEREFORE PERFECT
trinque finds the elliot pieces coming to him daily now
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> the man's metabolism never ceases to amaze << i lel'd.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends on the grade of tuica i imbibe.
ben_vulpes: the man's metabolism never ceases to amaze
mircea_popescu: ima build a line of hookers chained to poles the whole length of avenida del libertador yet.
mircea_popescu: it'll be hell for them, and i intend to piss gasoline on faces.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform found a great icecream place to replace the other one. so yeah, it's great. for me.
asciilifeform: well, my other here
mircea_popescu: macri is doing everything to help them. it'll be a bloodbath, and it'll be a bloodbath i'll enjoy.
mircea_popescu: versus a bunch of ambitious industrialists, stuck outside and who want to utterly ruin the other group.
mircea_popescu: so the battle is pretty simple : a bunch of fucktarded "middle class" idiots in their own mind, concentrated in buenos aires, expecting their "real estate" to sell for 200k usd per dingy appartnment unfit for the ghetto ; and their educations to bring serious payola in govt jobs
ben_vulpes: no way you don't see the handholding tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: to preserve the insanely inflated real estate values (really, 1k to 1.5k per square meter, ie 5x san francisco ; and the amenties are eastern europe in the 1990s level, their windows whistle in the wind, there's no gas heaters anywhere etc etc) they choked the money supply
mircea_popescu: (literally, this, and i've documented it. the "architecture" university consists of building cardboard boxes. the "social sciences" university consists of painting posters by hand. etc etc, all education here is paper and glue handicrafts like for mongoloids. which their kids ACTUALLY ARE, if i see another 20something girl walking hand in hand WITH HER FUCKING MOTHER im burning the place down. only country where it's social a
mircea_popescu: having absoluterly nothing to do with it, because they're literally lice, not people, they pumped up real estate values ; and "educated" their kids in the sense of giving them very us-like diplomas in cutting up cardboard.
mircea_popescu: there's larger denominations coming out. this is just a step in a wider plan to liquidate the country. for rather many years, the socialist government pumped pesos into the pockets of its clientele, a bunch of lice concentrated around the capital.
ben_vulpes: the six dollar bills were hilaribad
mircea_popescu: in unrelated but equally uninteresting news, the argentine natl bank introduced 500 peso notes, lifting the maximum bill from its ~6 dollar value to heights incomprehensible by the locals. (who think themselves rich and don't ever have 30 dollars in cash in their hands, like ever).
mircea_popescu: "Clintons performance was less-than-stellar, which may be just a meaner way of saying it was good as we ever could have expected. She has this tendency to look very self-satisfied after delivering a zinger thats clearly been crafted by someone else in Brooklyn and then tested on voters in a fish tank. Its grating." << to put it charitably.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is backed by lulz and drama ; and the us election is apparently made of lulz, and drama.
mircea_popescu: Obama said. So my suggestion would be go out there and try to win the election. If Mr. Trump is up 10 or 15 points on Election Day and ends up losing, then maybe he can raise some questions. << even better. lol.
mircea_popescu: In a recent interview, Obamas 2008 opponent, John McCain marveled at his own challenges when trying to connect with African American voters. I didnt get a single vote in the whole inner city of Philadelphia, the Arizona GOP senator told POLITICO. I thought maybe they could find one. << pretty lulzy.
trinque: reuter's recent headline after the weekend was something like "Failure to Implode"
trinque: brings to mind a conversation had with my lady friend, gist of which is that "modern angry feminist" in the states is nothing more than a (deeply resented) survival move, reacting to the complete lack of sane males in this country.
mircea_popescu: used to be the ~capital of sororisluttery.
trinque was born in the tampa area
trinque: struck me this time through how far "with-feeling" is from the commonly understood "definition"
shinohai: Nope, I live near thestringpuller
trinque reread the myth of consent just now, appropriately enough.
shinohai: This is true, but requires further research. Will report back in when I return from Miami.
mircea_popescu: even after all these years.
mircea_popescu: in other news, sex is fucking great.
mircea_popescu: "The growing interest in Ethereum has been one of the most significant blockchain technology developments of 2016."
mircea_popescu: i thought the libertards established that "online polls aren't scientific" given that they actually reflect the electoral reality rather than their preferred fiction.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: "Hey shinohai, lets go through the trouble of intalling all my dependencies then I'll tell you I already installed the eulora .deb package"
Framedragger: must be increasing your firm beliefs in the values of the community further still, mircea_popescu.
Framedragger: still with the fatass distro freeze project madness mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: no, i'm implying that nobody in plato's cave knows how badly the cave sucks until someone comes in riding a pegassus
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ..unless you are implying that the republic stimulated results such as this, making life insufferable for nsa, idiots and the like
Framedragger: wait shouldn't it be the inverse of that??
mircea_popescu: nothing quite like the republic to make life insufferable huh.
shinohai: For those that would rather view above in text: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cnogz/?raw=true
Framedragger: and here's an attempt at conversion to html from heathen pdf, for our dear mircea_popescu and others: http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/snfs/
Framedragger: evening. apologies for going awol, just busy (+ flu season). :/ wanted to link to this for the logs: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/961.pdf
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: patches welcome
mod6: Something to soak up all the coffee. :]
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: http://archive.is/BKyfp <<< darpa creates "smart contract", nukes half of the Middle East, sfyl occurs when they can't roll back the chain.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/huffers-at-ether-camp-baking-next-smart-contract-for-your-loss/ << Qntra - Huffers At Ether.Camp Baking Next "Smart Contract For Your Loss"
mircea_popescu: yo thestringpuller ! do something man!
shinohai: thestringpuller isn't the idea here to use in-house solutions whenever possible, or am I mistaken?
PeterL: the way I had been doing it no longer works because of cloudflare
jhvh1: adlai: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: In Classic Trilemma Today http://trilema.com/2014/the-sex-lives-of-other-people/
BingoBoingo: It's called a shot across the bow. It's a communications protocol.
BingoBoingo: North side, in the part that isn't black or gay.
asciilifeform: where are they?
BingoBoingo: Have you found the Polacks yet?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-11 03:03 BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform bbl, off to chicagabad night air << Does the river named for Chicagobad still smell of poo in the thick evening air?
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform bbl, off to chicagabad night air << Does the river named for Chicagobad still smell of poo in the thick evening air?
mircea_popescu: in other news, "better than chocolate" is an ok film. great pair of tits on the "butch" and otherwise great depiction of puppy lesbian love.
mircea_popescu: and in other latino hotties, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/latino-hottie.jpg
ben_vulpes: stay safe out there
asciilifeform: just grab an iron pipe , lamp, light switch, before pawing the boards in dry winter air.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-11 01:07 ben_vulpes: what, by the way, do i need to make an electronics workbench where i can safely leave this hw out and not have to rebag it?
ben_vulpes: what, by the way, do i need to make an electronics workbench where i can safely leave this hw out and not have to rebag it?