asciilifeform: (and static image is flicker-free at 0 fps! so long as it ~persists~ on the display. elementarily.)
mircea_popescu: how about these jezbel idiots actually went and whored out in the hood for a few months then came back with a little more piss and vinegar ?
mircea_popescu: i r disappoint. that sad, sad moment when you're stuck in a world where all the best erotic fiction is written by yourself, so the choice is between familiarity and inferior product.
asciilifeform: and there were, not far, octopi, pigs, afghanis, etc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo lol srsly ? << to the extent I can understand the word salad around the term.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if they found any loose octopi on the floor they were delivered to your desk ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean for the sheer weird, not money necessarily.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 11:46 mircea_popescu: can anyone think of any possible reason thestringpuller is actually voiced here ? i've just about had it, the snr ratio is by my count exactly 0, if you got something i wanna hear it plox.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563268 << the integral term is rather large at this point
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> do they mean the what, the religious enlightenment when it became dubious to have free sex ? << When it became dubious to have sex for the purpose of white procreation. White girls may cary dark children, but white boys are best to stfu Elliot. Most "woke" trendpieces are white gurlz writing about how "woke" their infant children are.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was, several multi-$k lcd, at least in the last years
ben_vulpes: somewhere in the back of my head i'm balancing the tradeoffs of continuing to use apple machines as ssh terminals into actually-usable machines vs cutting over to linux or a bsd wholesale
asciilifeform: enjoy, then, the nintendo. (or do as i did when i worked for usg and forced to use winblows xp box -- run gentoo/x11 in vmware, and emacs in ~that~...)
phf: asciilifeform: that was the case since forever, but they not only ensure that you can't apple from outside, they also ensure that you have to be on the upgrades bandwagon. with my 10.9.5 i'm running into things that "require newever version"
ben_vulpes: but that box on the table is the thing that produces and signs builds, and when apple says upgrade, it gets upgraded because it's a day to unfuck the toolchain after they break it and some completely unknowable amount of time to reverse engineer whatever the fuck xcode is doing.
ben_vulpes: no argument there
ben_vulpes: lurking assumption is that it is possible to bring sanity to the compilation and signing process.
trinque: the only correct broomstick move is not to sit
ben_vulpes: am i to reverse engineer which endpoint they want it at every time they upgrade "app uploader" or swizzle the delivery pipeline?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: last i was embroiled in iphonism, circa '10 or so, they only wanted a binary submission
asciilifeform: so there is no reason why it could not, in principle, be done for crapple.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've built winblows kernel drivers, for example, without a winblows box or any microshit software (yes, incl. the rsa signature)
ben_vulpes: and if you think you can do that with not-the-latest-xcode-and-os i have a build here that needs sucking through apple's garden hose
trinque: it's still the only portable not made of garbage
ben_vulpes: for the reprehensibly obstinate and misc log readers the only reason one could possibly *need* an apple box were if one came from such a bad life that producing builds for apple's walled garden was a regular requirement
asciilifeform: got a few of these also !
trinque: can otherwise have malware shipping lenovo
mircea_popescu: do they mean the what, the religious enlightenment when it became dubious to have free sex ?
asciilifeform: i have a box here very similar to ben_vulpes's, 'mb pro' circa may '16. it is now probably running the same sw as when it will go to junkyard.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: why the everliving fuck not ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: From "awake" related to the socialist left's SEW "Light Enlightenment Again!!!" wing
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: alarm bell here rang weeks ago, Just Say No to the 'upgrade'
ben_vulpes: aaand, for no discernable reason, since the 10.?? -> 10.999 os x upgrade, bringing emacs to the front ROUTINELY results in multi-second beachballs, and emacs is now losing locks to itself
trinque: ben_vulpes: oh the shit I never hear used in a sentence living in TX
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 16:26 asciilifeform: vendors want the 0day market to be a 'tournament market'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am grossly familiar with wokeness theatrics
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/LnEXk >> somehow this never gets old, 'let's give our 0days to usgapple, usgmicroshit, etc. for pennies on the dollar' yet-again
asciilifeform: rat, imho, is better company than roach. (incidentally, i was walking in a 'posh' neighbourhood in washington, and saw -- what no one will believe, THOUSANDS of rats, not even around a rubbish pile, but in hedges, right in the earth, SWARMING)
asciilifeform: the way i pictured bitcoin is that it is attempt at experimentally testing the hypothesis that some men are -- men, others -- roaches who were dropped into wrong bin by mistake
asciilifeform: it imho is intrinsically insectronic, it rewards bare-crumb epsilon-+ev chasing insects at the expense of men.
mircea_popescu: (kinda a large part of what is propelling the idiot parade - by now they've realised that in point of fact a fork is inevitable, what varies is the when. we can't carry the satoshi warts forward forever.)
asciilifeform in particular would like to see more thought re the 'mining is a curable disease' direction.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with making a general map of ib, discussions here tend to return to it now and again.
mircea_popescu: infinitely more valuable than continuing to pretend the various redditards are "developers" and "involved" in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: why ? i'd rather have a cs-based bicoin with the described node-miner issues resolved (as described)
asciilifeform: that, as i understand, is the 'nuke' on the rocket, it works best by derps being 'shown the instruments of torment' rather than by setting off
mircea_popescu: anyway. if we were to bother with this we'd best fix all the other problems too, so the current miners wouldn't be able to mine trb anyway.
mircea_popescu: just as long as i pay 700 bux to the trb, it's not going anywhere.
asciilifeform: for my education, describe the mechanics -- e.g., mircea_popescu will mine it himself ?
mircea_popescu: this is connected. simmer down and stop confusing yourself. you said : <asciilifeform> going briefly upstack, my understanding is that this particular batch of forkolade is effectively 'hard', in that no trb-generated tx is likely to be mined. and i said <mircea_popescu> if it is, whatever, we'll release a proper trb and they can all go hang. im pegging it.
asciilifeform: which seems like 'nobrainer', they have no reason to accept'em that fits in their 1-neuron roach brains.
asciilifeform: to have separate market, as in 'x prb == y trb coin', they gotta be circulatable separately
mircea_popescu: it's really just building prb complexity for no benefit. i can directly pay to them, they can't pay to me without adding an intermediate step where they desegwit.
asciilifeform: in that, unless you run the deliberate separator funnel described in 'missile crisis', your own stash becomes entangled in both forkchains
asciilifeform: this, as i understand, means to launch the rockets
mircea_popescu: it has perfectly fine chances to fizzle in the ver fashion, where some dorks somewhere keep insisting this thing is happening.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's rather simple : i won't upgrade, this means i'm not recognizing segwit txn until they are bridged over.
asciilifeform: it is not, admittedly, clear to me whether they are palpably aware of the cost of such a move.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i thought breitbart was << It's a transitional state, sorta a turning over of the compost pile this year.
asciilifeform: just as american airlines would remove passenger's legs if they could.
asciilifeform: in their single-neuroned brain, 'sort by fee' + 'no sigs' >ev> 'sort by fee' plain.
asciilifeform: cockroach goes to where the sugar is.
mircea_popescu: if it is, whatever, we'll release a proper trb and they can all go hang. im pegging it.
asciilifeform: ( the other prong of the front is the attempt to make trb difficult to use reliably by preventing effective quarantine of derp nodes and their tx)
asciilifeform: creating 'kakos' with emotional buy-in on account of their entire stash being bound up in the spider silk
asciilifeform: the prb gambit, as far as i can tell, is to siphon as much coin as possible into a must-use-prb parallel world
mircea_popescu: "consumers expect more like docker, systemd and ethereum!"
mircea_popescu: anyway. it significantly weakens trb, which they're more than welcome to.
asciilifeform: (and incidentally i suspect that you do not need anything like 51% for demolition of 'segwit' and other 'soft' idiocies, but just enough to feedback 'arse-mouth' and buy moar cycles immediately)
asciilifeform: well it also has to remain unorphaned, just like any other
mircea_popescu: so you know, they can do it again later on.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, a 51% attack doesn't even have to skin the lamb. it can just fleece it (respend all the segwit coins up to point x, retroactively invalidating any txn that ever rely on their proceeds) AND THEN agree to "never to process counter txn" for the future.
asciilifeform: to paraphrase barnum, it is quite difficult to lose money when betting on the poverty of redditards aggregate.
asciilifeform: alternatively, can putter along like the timelock crap, with the pot always just-below the magical threshold for +ev.
mircea_popescu: im sure nobody had the sense to create a "total payout to defecting miners" watch, because hey, they're "developers" not thinkers.
mircea_popescu: well, it slowly builds, until the miners defect.
asciilifeform: (summary: usg's most recent attempt to pound in the cock 'halfway', 'segwit', consists of prb churning out txen that result in 'anyone can spend' from trb pov, but miners are to 'agree never to process counter-softforkian tx', a la 'timelock' etc)
asciilifeform: (mostly unrealatedly, and strictly for the entomologically-inclined, mega-derp in old #b-a re phork warz etc.)
mircea_popescu: otherwise everyone's love is endless and support unwavering.
mircea_popescu: hitler needed money for the exact same reason henry 2 needed it : so as to make the nobles compete.
asciilifeform: other than this, it is an elementary, kindergarten 'you can't eat money' observation
mircea_popescu: yes, the spin changes are time-limited.
mircea_popescu: ah yes. if only state had a dozen whores on the ground in stevastopol in 2006, they wouldn't have been humiliated in 2014. or at any rate wouldn't have wasted bn trying to grow a child in nine weeks.
mircea_popescu: military commanders are very keenly aware of this spin factor of "money" which they call resources.
asciilifeform: well, if these were convertible to swiss franks, and then into swedish steel in '42, or american petrol in '40, there would have been no 'bunker moment'.
mircea_popescu: "that's nice... but if there were any gasoline those billiards could buy, we'd have requisitioned it already, so..."
mircea_popescu: imagine as he sat in the bunker listening to the first artillery bombardments audible from berlin, hitler got a wire from bundesbank that the venusians just deposited 11 billiards marks in the eternal reich's account.
mircea_popescu: which goes right back to the issue : they have -2 currency, it's not realised. and it has a long way to go to +2.
mircea_popescu: this is then a systematic reason, which a certain sort of esl anthropologist would call "cultural", but which can be readily brought back to money : because the only dollars they have can be used to pay rents, but they don't have the kind of bill that pays for engineers.
asciilifeform: it is wholly orthogonal to their extraction model
asciilifeform: same reason they don't hire competent, e.g., jet pilot, for sv startup
mircea_popescu: to some degree because some tasks are so idiotic the sane people wouldn't accept them for all the money in the workd. but then why do the tasks have to be that idiotic ?
mircea_popescu: so why didn't they ?
mircea_popescu: but really, they... couldn't ? obviously, in point of fact they didn't, and the assumption that didn't because couldn't is sound, but nevertheless, you can actually hire competent engineers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a complicated point that you bring. just how equal are the 7 77 and 777 ? consider - for all their money, rando "tech start-up" couldn't afford an engineer that didn't suck to do their w/e, database, sysadmining, w/e.
mircea_popescu: currently all this +/- cycling is pretty harmful to the containment vessels.
mircea_popescu: it fundamentally changes the role of money, in many ways, but i suspect this may be the most notable.
mircea_popescu: and in these terms, a very simple explanation of why the republic is indefeatable is very simply forthcoming : given two users a and b who, through division of labour, have expertise in fields f1 and f2, the empire path for a to access f2 or for b to access f1 is to take some money all the way from -3 to 3 TWICE. whereas the republican model simply has a talk to b, on the mediation of a gossipd/wot
asciilifeform: sure, but they are not fungible / convertible units. just as redditard cannot be converted to mircea_popescu-class by feeding him same food.
mircea_popescu: you could buy lsd just fine, you just dun want to. but w/e, argument is rescuable replacing the lsd for nuke firing assemblages or w/e.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i tried, and failed, to turn up thread in l0gz, with -- incidentally -- thestringpuller, iirc, where i noted that i could buy a large quantity of, e.g., bricks, but 0 lsd.
PeterL: Fox News is the biggest "red team" media outlet, nobody from "blue team" is going to give the blowhard a job
asciilifeform: i cannot dispute (largely from lack of direct exposure to the venus in question) the ordering, but only mechanism
mircea_popescu: company's 50 bux can not buy a democrat posters, your 50 bux can, but they can't buy you a goat in afghanistan.
mircea_popescu: from -3 to +3 there's a buncha layers.
mircea_popescu: yes but i was discussing degrees on one side of 0 and you seem to be discussing degrees on the other side. let's build a reconciled continuum : speculative gains (-3) -booking-> profits (-2) -realizing-> corporate cash (-1) -donation,salary,etc-> cash(0) -relations-> food (1) -connections-> cunt (2) -expertise-> plutonium (3)
mircea_popescu: obviously it depends what you mean by "actual". if you mean nude object, then sure, any dollars that made their way to venus may be appreciated aesthetically by the venusians, and therefore they weren't really intrinsically chumpatronic. but in the system as it is, defined historically and therefore enclosed, it can be said the zil-buying ability is a paritcular property of rubles q rubles.
asciilifeform: or as in the 'this is my family rembrandt' thread.
asciilifeform: (on account of being different types of animal, rather than simply happening upon bags of different types of dollar)
asciilifeform: as in the old mircea_popescu article, where, e.g., buffett cannot send his dollar to isis, but king saud - can, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me that this is the most parsimonious model -- chumpatronicity is not as such a property of individual dollars, any more than ZIL-buying ability was a property of particular rubles in 1980. it is more that the actual coin of the realm - is something else
mircea_popescu: PeterL wouldn't he just move over to the next station for prolly more money ?
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - the "sterilizing gate" view is a perfectly fine way to look at bitcoin prices. normal usd-land profits need to shed about half to two thirds before they can enter the economic circuit without blowing things up (too badly) ; meanwhile bitcoin has to expand NO LESS than 700x.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, since previous offering was rejected, here's more in the red cups : http://68.media.tumblr.com/23265b3bff12d4015d96c4a28373e7ac/tumblr_n7kruqyuG11stjm8io1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as speculation... have to be booked as profits! before they can be realised. that's two degrees.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as profits... can't be spent. they gotta be "realized" first ; which is a sterilizing gate (the sterilisation is called taxation for no sane reason, it's not a tax)
asciilifeform: she needs to drink moar young blood, the face is starting to run
mircea_popescu: trivial to show there's degrees of chumpatronic-ness of "money". take dollars as cash : they can be spent (while supplies last), they're basically equivalent to one of those coupons.
asciilifeform: and woah, is that... baba yaga, on the left !
asciilifeform: so it is not as if this particular batch of monopoly money were somehow ~more~ chumpatronic than the usual.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the knees apart bar, http://68.media.tumblr.com/18857c47e784768a830b8babfdb25a8e/tumblr_n5ywzhJ4kh1qequ10o1_1280.jpg
PeterL: 5. In her inaugural address, Hillary Clinton promises to wrest back control of our democracy and economy from the moneyed interests that have taken over both. << how many different ways can the socialists say "seize the means of production"?
mircea_popescu: of course, most of this "money" isn't much more substantial than the imaginary fortunes of adolescents cycling through their fantasy business career after fapping and pre falling asleep.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/EFLbE << in other lulz, the losing side dreams too! bahamas on supreme court! stuffs!
PeterL: From American "News": "major Wall Street analysts agree that the S&P 500 will likely sell off if Donald Trump wins, and at least hold gains if Hillary Clinton wins." << DOOM will befall you unless you elect our chosen leader!
mircea_popescu: and certainly 1/1000000 the "carbon".
mircea_popescu: recall the "where are the rembrandts then" argument ? the us fails to produce a philosopher worth the mention every other decade ; athens managed that much on 1/1000th the population.
mircea_popescu: what clothes the whores wear that year dun really enter in this discussion. point being reals vs "humanities".
asciilifeform: they have own, very similar, wholly usg-powered racket.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 16:27 mircea_popescu: the per-hooker value to bill is quantifiable, 20 bux or whatever ; and then this splits up into per-social-scientist benefit of whatever, fiddy cents. meanwhile the per-discovery value to bill is unquantifiable, and if quantified usually comes to ~0.
shinohai: Well it took 4 gospels to tell the story of Jesus.
mircea_popescu: (for one thing in that it is variant - next time i might tell the same anecdote an entirely different way)
shinohai: One day jhvh1 will have a mircea_popescu version of the Bible. It's so much more concise.
mircea_popescu: whereas english speaking world on the contrary, is still a reimplementation (5th ?) of the "angevin empire", ie that ridoinculous construction of the house of plantagenet, kings in england, dukes of normandy and aquitanie, counts of anjou etc etc.
mircea_popescu: (ie, soviets saw themselves as a national state, not as a mongrel empire. consequently population must be produced, can't be imported. consequently, all women must marry and bear 2.x children. consequently etc all the way down)
mircea_popescu: dumb orcs had a very feudal system of allocating the cunt - whereby the pretty ones would be married off and then used by the guy's bosses.
mircea_popescu: so there's ever only one building.
asciilifeform: (there were factory dormitories etc. full of gurlz)
mircea_popescu: the problem there starts with the fact that human brain has fixed single attention span.
asciilifeform: in su these were largely separate concerns.
mircea_popescu: which in the end is just another statement of that ancient observation that "our" modern democracy is cancer.
mircea_popescu: if there's free flow of tech, then his only incentive is to optimize for max whoredom.
mircea_popescu: if the only way to get an ipad were to be on the list approved by bill, then bill'd have a direct incentive to fill u-of-m with physics dudes.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason medieval empires always included sumptuary laws, which prevented the margins from benefitting from the discoveries/technologies. yes this has a cost in terms of aggregate productivity, BUT that cost can, and in practice usually is, offset by the benefit in political structuring.
mircea_popescu: so filling the field with "social science" tards is very reasonable, in that logic.
mircea_popescu: the per-hooker value to bill is quantifiable, 20 bux or whatever ; and then this splits up into per-social-scientist benefit of whatever, fiddy cents. meanwhile the per-discovery value to bill is unquantifiable, and if quantified usually comes to ~0.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-05 15:22 mircea_popescu: epstein is one of many such squires, let's call them. the squire's estate consists of a brothel, which may be obv multiple physical locations but generally arranged in a star pattern, a harvesting operation, his connections to the democrat party (in this case via abedin-clinton-obama). he doesn't do his own marketing, the people running the whole thing do.
mircea_popescu: the logic is judicious from the pov of socialist empire : the marginal utility of stem is actually nil, because whatever rocket they invent the russkis will steal and the chinese will make cheaper anyway ; whereas the marginal utility of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563151 is manifest : however many are needed to brew a head of fucktoys required by bill de blasio to forget the monkey at home.
trinque: clitler was only ever going to be prosecuted if the hairdo gets into office. that hasn't changed.
asciilifeform: end result, monkeys - kept their jobs, every one, and have busily created more of themselves for past 5 yrs or so since this incident
mircea_popescu: it's altogether unclear the "social" "sciences" actually have reason to hold a chair at all. and this includes ALL of them : physchology, economy, what have you.
asciilifeform: the idea!
asciilifeform: and there was epic butthurt, almost as if they had suggested gassing the jews or whatnot
asciilifeform: here's one local example from the nowhere company town where asciilifeform lives. at one time uni of md was on cost-cutting spree (as usual, quite selectively, but see below) and merged ~all~ of the sciences into 1 mega-department - chemistry, microbiology, physics, etc. all under 1 roof;
mircea_popescu: then again, they mostly don't, just as soon as stole enough to take off they take off.
mircea_popescu: it's a motley crew, some are deeply inept, like say the journowhore ("new york elite"!!!) woman that got kicked out. it's a wonder why the few and far between competent ones accept to sit at that table.
asciilifeform: why do you suppose they measure ~any~ political setup from the pov of how far it lifts defectives out of their station ??
mircea_popescu: as in they're substantially defective anyway ?
asciilifeform: well, just as with the last 'system' and its children, this one took a buncha folk who ought to have grown up washing the decks on godforsaken rusty freighters, or playing piano in whorehouses, and raised them onto suburban thrones, 'macmansions', 'professorships', etc.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't, but then again what did they ever do that actually made their lives better ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the point here is that it's insanely hard for system men to come to terms with the realisation that the system is doing more harm than good. after all if they believed that they wouldn't be in it in the first place. so they're bound, by the insane logic that castrates them,. to also believe that proclaiming clinton innocent actually helps her.
asciilifeform: it delivers the sheeple, who see it as absolution.
mircea_popescu: the fact that she was absolved makes more of a case against her than if they just let it lie.
mircea_popescu: nobody who thinks she's guilty changed his mind thereby ; nobody who thought the system is corrupt changed his mind thereby. what exactly does it deliver ?
mircea_popescu: bureaucrats are not noted for their brainpower.
mircea_popescu: aha. i have nfi why they thought this is a +ev move, but whatever.
mircea_popescu: this john lackland of the modern era...
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 15:34 mircea_popescu: i wouldn't hire a 70yo sales manager, why the fuck would i tolerate a 70yo politician ? go home.
BingoBoingo: But no, talking about Newt and Warren given the "me generation" (i.e. babyboomers) hope that they are still useful at their slighlty lesser but still advanced age.
mircea_popescu: the republic of geriatry.
mircea_popescu: the age for that is late 40s to early 60s, not fucking 70+.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't hire a 70yo sales manager, why the fuck would i tolerate a 70yo politician ? go home.
mircea_popescu: go the fuck home, raise some grandkids, work a garden. there's such a thing as retirement. for a fucking reason.
mircea_popescu: this is ridiculous, what the fuck is a 70yo gonna do ? lead ? what, the bathroom beeline ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, roflmao at the ustards. "newt gingrich is positioning himself to benefit from trump". what the everloving fuck, the dude is 70. meanwhile at the democrat side, "oh, once clinton wins elizabeth warren should say she'll run against her in 2020 if she's not bold and progressive enough". nigga, what the fuck, warren, other than being a total ditz, was born 1949. she will be seventy by 2020.
asciilifeform: there is a substantial difference b/w the linux that a literate user, with some notion of hygiene, ends up with, and 'africa', and the treatment of modules is part of it
mircea_popescu: upon re-read, this is almost interesting - the problem is the single sentence "The official fix was merged yesterday into the linux kernel, and so I can know talk freely about it.", which could in principle be reinterpreted to read his intended meaning into it. otherwise he's actually very proper in expression.
mircea_popescu: right. why they don't use the actual words that exist for the purpose of describing the situation, "it's a kernel module", even should it be qualified with "ubiquitous" or whatever i haven't the slightest idea.
asciilifeform: let's rephrase, unless you built own kernel, rationally, it is probably in yours, whether you want or not
mircea_popescu: so then it's not actually in the kernel, unless by "the kernel" you mean "this binary blob maker of firewire hardware provides"
BingoBoingo wondering if FUCKGOATS are indoor or outdoor pets, and what their feeding requirements are
mircea_popescu: he means like optional module you gotta rebuild the kernel to get yes ?
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i had nfi firewire is in the kernel.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 12:18 mircea_popescu: no, he engaged into a bunch of pages of commentary on the margins of trilema articles is what he means.
asciilifeform: iirc the original d00d by that name may even have lost his head last year, and replaced with a ???.
mircea_popescu: (to round up the salon discussion : exactly nothing has changed since 2013, http://archive.is/FSDm9 )
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 11:43 mircea_popescu: PeterL apparently no archived version of the url. is the bot doing that ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563267 << the reason, appears, is that j. young has joined the list of derps who deliberately block archive.is
mircea_popescu: the bid is 0.00021367, the ask is 0.0003418, there's no open bids, there's no daily range, the average volume for the past 30 days is 139, worth about four bitcents give or take, or in other words a tiny fraction of qntra';s (MPEX:S.QNTR) 1.1999952 btc.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/HuZpy << this was a genuine pwnhole but the style of writing is quite peculiar.
mircea_popescu: for the curious : salon (QTCQB:SLNM) was made by some derpy journos fired by 2nd rate san francisco outlets back in 1994. they "explored the web" accruing ~100mn dollars in losses by the end of the dotcom bubble. it is still unprofitable to this day, if more moderately, losing a few million each year hence.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, check out robert reich : his latest https://archive.is/khty2 reprinted verbatim by salon, this aspiring qntra of velleity.
mircea_popescu: myeah, the whole stack fell over ;/
a111: Logged on 2016-11-07 11:43 mircea_popescu: PeterL apparently no archived version of the url. is the bot doing that ?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563267 << do you mean the crypto.me link? looks like it is a problem on the archive.is end, bot submitted link and got back error, I just tried to submit the link manually and got error
mircea_popescu: i ain't about to stand for it. the politicos get to pay per line for their existence. everyone else is free to say whatever the fuck. which is exactly why i'm not counting your snr, but i am counting his.
mircea_popescu: kids who go to real college where they learn real science also learn intrinsically this, that to asq a question is to beg for money, and to disguise your questions as anything else is felonious. so they get an over-active self censor. meanwhile the idiots who do not go to real college, but to fake empire college learn that they can overpower their better peers through sheer gab. because "human rights" and "freedom of speech"
mircea_popescu: communication to your superiors always carries a cost. if you write to your professor to ask him a bunch of dumb questions you're going to hear from him ; and if you try to disguise your questions as aything but questions, you belong expelled. there can not possibly be any other interaction between you and him. similarly with the other magisters, if you write your lawyer he will want 500 bux just to open the letter. for this
mircea_popescu: ng and today he is the superior i am beseeching so let's call it a wash as this seems likely to repeat in the future. but this is fantasy, not reality. nothing wrong with it, by itself ; but also not something found in nature.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger lemme spell this out ; without prejudice to you personally, here's how things go : communication is either enligthening the inferiors or beseeching the superiors. there IS NO SUCH THING AS EQUALITY. not in nature, ain't found. it's true that people may opt to abstractly, exactly in the way of any other ~delusion~, deem each other equals, perhaps on the basis that look, yesterday i was the superior he was beseechi
trinque: diana_coman: "you don't do anything" -> "your mother is a whore"
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how one could be here this long AND STILL the slightest "go do shit, young man" fails to rub on their wings, but here it is.
mircea_popescu: no, he engaged into a bunch of pages of commentary on the margins of trilema articles is what he means.
diana_coman: thestringpuller, I doubt you dived into eulora code; it was probably planeshift code you dived into and nobody said as far as I know that planeshift was any sort of supermodel
deedbot: mircea_popescu unrated thestringpuller.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: !!reputation thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: gah i always confuse these
mircea_popescu: !!ratings thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust deedbot thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of a shit. the linked article is actually pretty good ; your categorical judgements don't interest me in the slightest, because in the five or so years you've been hanging around you did exactly nothing i can recall. anyone here can write a script to be you in an evening and that'd be the end of the matter.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental difference is that you do things.
Framedragger: unless it wasn't 'sudden' in the first place
Framedragger: i personally don't see how he is doing any worse in terms of snr as compared so some others. (e.g., myself; that's probably not an argument that is very favourable to me, but anyway). don't see why you are suddenly so fussed.
mircea_popescu: can anyone think of any possible reason thestringpuller is actually voiced here ? i've just about had it, the snr ratio is by my count exactly 0, if you got something i wanna hear it plox.
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5612&pr=1 << James Lafond Present the Place Fiat Businesses register their incorporations
asciilifeform: the 'official pgp key server'
mircea_popescu: and in other high performance hanger hardware, http://68.media.tumblr.com/cf48c2dd3a769c4a49878a98a1d0fa1e/tumblr_mzw3wtZnYV1qdtr76o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: guy that was killed in june by ypg missile (as reported by ypg) and in january by the syrians (as reported by the saa) was just killed in mosul, according to the kurds.
trinque: he can rest easy; I'll put this on the desk of every contact I have in USG!1!11!
phf: oh you're there too
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the shower queue... http://68.media.tumblr.com/e0ca5f3cc51f905f7a4d07ebf120dc75/tumblr_n83sv1sUG51qg7sdjo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: to salt them.