mp_en_viaje: who the fuck heard of this, ima have to fridge my laptop periodically.
mp_en_viaje: i thought for a day it's "bad internet", but no, everything else works, just this lappy drops. and... i put it in the fridge for 10 minutes, now "the internet" is fine again.
mp_en_viaje: aaand... this elitebook has developped a new problem : if it gets overheated, the wifi drops.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other empire lulz, reader points out trilema "disappeared" q4 2018. magic!
mp_en_viaje: woe upon kiddies turning in trilema pages as their homework!
mp_en_viaje: in other sads, something called "Blackboard_Safeassign" has been apparently crawling trilema for a while. it turns out "SafeAssign is a tool used to prevent plagiarism and to create opportunities to help students identify how to properly attribute sources rather than paraphrase. SafeAssign is effective as both a deterrent and an educational tool."
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 20:57 mp_en_viaje: ave1, you fucked up the footnote format. remember that a (( opens and a )) closes and there's no nesting. thus therefore you can never have (( inside a footnote, like you do in footnote 3
mp_en_viaje: ave1, you fucked up the footnote format. remember that a (( opens and a )) closes and there's no nesting. thus therefore you can never have (( inside a footnote, like you do in footnote 3
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-people-attracted-to-good-dancers-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are People Attracted To Good Dancers? Adnotated.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 15:53 asciilifeform: anyway i think this covers the subj.
dorion: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925151 << trinque as of ~20 minutes ago, deedbot tells me my !!balance is 0.0 and !!ledger is empty. however, the txn I made for this request was included in block 587568, which is 86 confirmations deep at present according to my local trb. do you see a problem on your end?
BingoBoingo: That one was still fairly fresh in the Trilema mapping cache
mp_en_viaje: they
mp_en_viaje: in other #help, anyone recall which the fuck trilema article did i put the chicks reading while flat on belly on old style carpet, legs in perfect splits ?
BingoBoingo: Hence their normal focus on absent "recursos humanos" and squandered "recursos naturales"
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:33 mp_en_viaje: this is SO fucking typical argentine, 100% pretense of a shocking livresque degree. it's like pantsuited hilarity declaring "if we continue with trump we'll be left without subtility even". dude, you're fucking ustards, what the fuck.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925394 << They built their culture around the verb "faltar", of course Argentines are going to pretend to have and have had things they are without
asciilifeform: anyway i think this covers the subj.
asciilifeform: for extra pedanticism, the tag aint actually 3 bytes, but 20 bits.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-25 17:30 asciilifeform: ... and yes there is actually a standard. even sold as dead tree b00k, called 'see mips run'
asciilifeform: for moar re this & related, see the b00k.
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt: 1980s mipsen not only crashed, but would actually ~smoke~, if 2 identical tags! they had ultra-simplistic dual-ported sram as the table, would result in short circuit ! )
asciilifeform: 1 observation : given that the tags ~must~ be unique (an iron mips will actually hard-crash if you manage to -- it aint easy -- stuff 2 entries 2/ identical tags into the table) it may be possible to use some variant of crc as 'hash' for 'hash table' or similar (catch is, it gotta be ~fast~. as in, coupla instructions at most.)
asciilifeform: the solutions i tried, were : plain iterative search ; and the simd thing. both sucked.
asciilifeform: 1 naive solution i considered, was radix search, but with straight 3byte index, that's a 2^24-entry (4bit ea, i.e. index, so weights 1MB) table, would blow the pc cache to hell.
asciilifeform: writes to this structure have to be as fast as reads, as any time that a query results in 'not found', the table is written (typically one of the entries is replaced at ~random with a matching one, by the os)
asciilifeform: you have at most 16 entries, each of which has a 'tag' (3 bytes) that must match the query's tag .
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 00:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925256 << btw found shortly after posting that the 1-slot cache is not functional in the given patch. might fix, at some pt, but currently finding difficult to justify putting moar sweat into beating of the dead horse
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925370 << i oughta formalize the maffs problem , on the off chance that a log reader might want to attempt it via some oddball method (e.g. radix search) :
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-arent-two-antipsychotics-better-than-one-the-most-important-article-on-psychiatry-part-3-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Aren't Two Antipsychotics Better Than One? The Most Important Article on Psychiatry, Part 3. Adnotated.
asciilifeform: but ordinary 32-bit slow micro ~also~ wins, if not in speed, but in 'knowing wtf is in the box' param.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 21:09 asciilifeform: rather, a standard, e.g., verilog mips, with the registers extended to 8192b.
asciilifeform: ( on pc, in addition to 'unix leaky' and other boobytraps, also gotta contend with not knowing what the fuck the cpu does internally in re constant-time )
asciilifeform: even if the 4096bit modexp that's 2sec on pc, is 200sec on battery-powered micro, still imho entirely usable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ftr asciilifeform is of same position on 'where to rsa' as in 2013 -- ideally get it the hell off the pc.
asciilifeform: the gnarly bit is that attaching fg to lappy is inconvenient, given the current form factor.
asciilifeform: no conceivable reason why it'd have to be laptop-sized. this being said, i'd rather use lappy with msdos peh than unix, for cipheration/signing.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: atm folx use entire lappies (iirc there's a mp photo w/ same) for the job. so even the pictured item would be substantial improvement re portability.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925475 << quite. but they're so deeply identical culturally speaking, it beggars beief.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:57 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925396 << by some accounts, this disease killed even crowned heads ( ceausescu ) , and saharov, and buncha other 'names' , large an' small , ( an' many yrs ago almost killed asciilifeform , who did not come from factory with mp's complete immunity ) and fuck knows whom else
mp_en_viaje: that'd be about the largest size practicable imo.
mp_en_viaje: then again, rsa on unix... holy shit.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why transmit the key over the (potentially loud) serial ? rsa in the box.
mp_en_viaje: i believe it's the correct approach, have fixed-size repeaters, like so : 1. plug into FG, will load up a 4kb chunk of random ; 2. unplug, it repeats the chunk permanently while powered.
asciilifeform: i.e. variant where the end of the pipe is a device running also peh , talking over r232.
asciilifeform: i did expect that folx would ask for this. there aint afaik a portable way of doing it, however, will require ugly c imports.
mp_en_viaje: alternatively, what we could do, is "fg"-like that always plays same sequence over and over. then item could be ~republican key.
asciilifeform: ( 'build in' would require explicitly calling the keyboard, also, a la gpg, rather than 'pw from stdin', tape is already coming from stdin )
mp_en_viaje: the "proper iron" will STILL need an activation, it can't jus tbe the magic rock of sluttery, serving all who hold it in hand.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 13:49 asciilifeform: given that 'peh' eats tape from stdio (this is by design, so that can 'chain' tapes) the only practical solution to symmetricizing seekritz kept on disk, afaik, is commandline 'serpent' util or similar.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:00 mp_en_viaje: the principal problem of manhood is then how to negotiate aggressivity and violence, between the hammer of [trilema.com/2016/honor-societies-vs-respect-societies-or-how-the-disaster-of-commons-sunk-the-western-world/?b=really think&e=then#select][the winds] of doom
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 12:31 mp_en_viaje: how the fuck does this work can't be explained, but -- those dudes have tip top internet, no restaurants, here GREAT restaurant scene, shitty interwebs... wtf
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925458 << afaik it is at least partially a 'winds blowing down towers' problem : in ukristan, isps owned by competing mobs routinely cut one another's wires
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:43 diana_coman: oh, lemme guess re kiev - nobody ever actually cleared the drains since... USSR?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925437 << i suspect that autos parked on sidewalk (endemic in orcistans where 'hey nao you can borrow to buy merc' , saw in bucharest same) collapsed the drains.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:44 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, 100% bucharest/timisoara/what have you. ukraina 100% greater-romania, nfi why they didn't simply join
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925439 << the 'transnistria' story illustrates 'why not joined'.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:37 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925366 << my default expectation, for all these cases, is that they're involved in a toxic cvasi-D/s relationship with a bratty princess that they worship (as per the toxic education they received from that stupid, worthelss whore of their mother). the girl pushes them and pushes them to either die or man up and put her on her knees as she needs and wants to be ; and they die, a slow, lengthy, p
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925396 << by some accounts, this disease killed even crowned heads ( ceausescu ) , and saharov, and buncha other 'names' , large an' small , ( an' many yrs ago almost killed asciilifeform , who did not come from factory with mp's complete immunity ) and fuck knows whom else
asciilifeform: i wrote one, but it needs a bit of polish. imho it may be an unhealthy thing, though, gold standard for 'secrets kept unattended' would be a dedicated iron, rather than 'type in passphrase into this linux proggy, and 'faith-based' count on the os not to stow the keystrokes somewhere'
asciilifeform: given that 'peh' eats tape from stdio (this is by design, so that can 'chain' tapes) the only practical solution to symmetricizing seekritz kept on disk, afaik, is commandline 'serpent' util or similar.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 11:16 mp_en_viaje: re "drop shitty gpg" : the one remaining issue is key bootstrapping. to use peh instead of gpg one can't just keep plaintext rsa privkeys ; but peh has no built-in symmcipher either, so wut do.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:30 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925389 << self-correcting problem, if noobs keep showing up they'll flag it for you lol
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 07:13 mp_en_viaje: the fundamental difference being that naggum wrote a lot and phf avoided expressing self like you'd avoid fucking shambling old crackwhores in a leprosorium ; on which basis i'd daresay "nah, it'd be too much like expressing himself".
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/deluge-in-kiev-and-other-excess-stories/ << Trilema -- Deluge in Kiev, and other excess stories.
mp_en_viaje: how the fuck does this work can't be explained, but -- those dudes have tip top internet, no restaurants, here GREAT restaurant scene, shitty interwebs... wtf
mp_en_viaje: oddly, the internet here's not nearly as good as minsk
lobbes: I'm certainly improvising as I go here, but I gots a notebook near my bed that I write down shit I *want* to try to introduce her to, but only in time. Going slow (over the internets anyways, so no real rush in either case)
a111: Logged on 2019-07-29 06:33 diana_coman: lobbes: if it brings it forward, just start with the most basic: grabs the data from db and displays it in the web page; once that is on, use another week to add the segment by day and the search
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925395 << if you are good with the piecemeal approach, then I am. I'll see if I can get just that basic piece done by end-of-day August 4th
a111: Logged on 2019-07-27 16:51 mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925131 <-- ok. as far as I can see, this means that genesizing a CLtron should be next thing on the list after current item; otherwise can't run *any* of this CL code.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-27#1925129 <-- I did notice, I'll be more careful to properly explain "why chosen to do X" in the future; relatedly, a long time ago /me studied basic jazz theory and it went exactly along the lines of "this mistake is actually a correct note in that particular context"
spyked: somewhat... the periphery is still shitty (if not shittier, in places)
mp_en_viaje: improved since the 2000s has it ?
spyked: mp_en_viaje, this morning it rained in bucharest for about 2hrs straight (similarly, with 20 mins of heavy rain). another 3hrs later, streets are all dry and I expect by tomorrow it'll be back to 30+ degrees celsius
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, 100% bucharest/timisoara/what have you. ukraina 100% greater-romania, nfi why they didn't simply join
diana_coman: oh, lemme guess re kiev - nobody ever actually cleared the drains since... USSR?
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in derpistani lulz : it just rained for maybe 15-20 minutes (admittedly kinda hard) and... kiev is now flooded, foot tall waves in the "street"
mp_en_viaje: re "drop shitty gpg" : the one remaining issue is key bootstrapping. to use peh instead of gpg one can't just keep plaintext rsa privkeys ; but peh has no built-in symmcipher either, so wut do.
mp_en_viaje: reading diana_coman 's executive summary really brings into focus the beauty of stan's ffa. fucking gem, what.
diana_coman: he came into #ossasepia to "learn" but wouldn't give a name other than "zmk" so I gave him a name, what; he apparently ran off when he saw it was for realz, hence negrate.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925389 << self-correcting problem, if noobs keep showing up they'll flag it for you lol
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925386 << no, actually, to an actual castle. he's just as on his way out as he was at time of last lordship list revision, and quite frankly the absolute last thing i want to see is noobs infected with whatever brain parasite that turned 2013-2014 mod6 into 2018-2019 mod6.
mp_en_viaje: the fundamental difference being that naggum wrote a lot and phf avoided expressing self like you'd avoid fucking shambling old crackwhores in a leprosorium ; on which basis i'd daresay "nah, it'd be too much like expressing himself".
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925368 << i guess it's possible. seems unlikely on the basis of general experience, but nfi
mp_en_viaje: there's nothing wrong with little boy watching you cut a pheasant open, "omg, blood everywhere". the whole fucking point of life is to learn the difference between "everywhere" and everywhere, between pheasant and his horses or women -- and no, these aren't distinct nor need to be distinguished.
mp_en_viaje: trying to force upon them a "just close your eyes and hum, butters", "0 tolerance policy" etcetera nonsense, complete avoidance of the fundamental problem of their life is sheer idiocy : they'll still run into the same world as adults, they'll just be at significant disadvantage over normal boys from sane cultures for having had 0 experience with it and intentional maleducation, where they can't even ~reason~ about their lack, be
mp_en_viaje: how to hit hard enough ~but not harder~, when to raise an index of warning and when to raise a braided leather whip, and so ongoing.
mp_en_viaje: the principal problem of manhood is then how to negotiate aggressivity and violence, between the hammer of [trilema.com/2016/honor-societies-vs-respect-societies-or-how-the-disaster-of-commons-sunk-the-western-world/?b=really think&e=then#select][the winds] of doom
mp_en_viaje: oh, actually, since i started this : it is harmful to a superlative degree to attempt pantsuit abuse upon little boys and call it "education". boys have to spill blood, as part of their natural and necessary function ; this is precisely why little girls come with clingwrap on their snatch.
mp_en_viaje is available to answer questions re the foregoing.
mp_en_viaje: now, this is to my mind likely like the "likely weather is likely", out of the 10k+ possible outcomes, this is the most likely. it's still a 0.5% sorta objective absolute likelihood. it's just that everything else scores from 0.38% to 0.001%
mp_en_viaje: the ~only~ fucking way to have sane interpersonal relationships is, absolutely, admitting to the power exchange necessary and universal as the only possible cornerstone of any such thing ; but many people manage to content themselves with very lughtweight simulacra of relationships, and then on their prevalence all sort of nonsense is derived by naive republcian bois, such as "inept and unaware D/s will be perfecty safe to practi
mp_en_viaje: psych, "it's because she was abused as child", as if there can be such a thing in women.
mp_en_viaje: i run into said princesses at the rate of ~1/week ; eg http://trilema.com/2019/the-burlesque-competition-and-assorted-observances/?b=By%20far&e=chick#select very much exactly same. and they confess, too, she told me all about her bf, and how she got ever more aggressive, an eventually blood on the floor. wouldn't believe it's because of natural female http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/?b=nails&e=guts#select , believed her
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-29#1925366 << my default expectation, for all these cases, is that they're involved in a toxic cvasi-D/s relationship with a bratty princess that they worship (as per the toxic education they received from that stupid, worthelss whore of their mother). the girl pushes them and pushes them to either die or man up and put her on her knees as she needs and wants to be ; and they die, a slow, lengthy, p
diana_coman: lobbes: if it brings it forward, just start with the most basic: grabs the data from db and displays it in the web page; once that is on, use another week to add the segment by day and the search
mp_en_viaje: this is SO fucking typical argentine, 100% pretense of a shocking livresque degree. it's like pantsuited hilarity declaring "if we continue with trump we'll be left without subtility even". dude, you're fucking ustards, what the fuck.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, wtf bs is that, they never had raisins.
asciilifeform: per mp_en_viaje's 'plox filter the noobs' dictum
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: until then :
asciilifeform: tanami: if you read and find interesting, please join #ossasepia / #asciilifeform and introduce self there.
tanami: well, I thought I'd join here for a bit and see what the community is like
tanami: I was just browsing therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925256 << btw found shortly after posting that the 1-slot cache is not functional in the given patch. might fix, at some pt, but currently finding difficult to justify putting moar sweat into beating of the dead horse
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 22:46 mp_en_viaje: re phf, it's pretty weird case, we met a coupla times in minsk ; then he just quit answering his phone. it was mildly concerning because he was having some health issues, but the people at his hotel wouldn't fucking pick up the phone and i opted against scouring the hospitals and police blotters before leaving.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 23:01 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 22:43 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, you got a business there...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925341 << right, but asciilifeform cannot prevent the fall of uruguay as whole. so regards the polit-wankery as 'asteroid weather'
BingoBoingo: In the ongoing saga of lulcow Cristina and certain jail if she ever finds herself without an office https://archive.is/srDum
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-law-schools-lying-to-their-applicants-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are Law Schools Lying To Their Applicants? Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: i'm guessing it'll resolve itself some way or another.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 15:59 mircea_popescu: you didn't even as much as say "hey, i have a job irl". am i to assume you do ? why should i have to assume, why should i have to guess, there's simply no benefit to doing it this way.
mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 06:59 mircea_popescu: and this paroxistic-avoidant approach worries me universally, phf is stuck in the exact same rut, for instance. i have never in my life seen this approach to things work. not once, not FUCKING ONCE, and this is all the more indicative as it's one of the most commonly deployed broken strategies.
mp_en_viaje: altogether i'd say the absolute worst case of benefit/effort ratio in history of mp meets. pretty much everyone else did manage to get ~some kind~ of boost from taking the trouble to come over have a cup of coffee ; but in this case a humongo helping of what i can only mentally represent as http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919605 resulted in a few hours discussing nothing of any consequence (minus, of course, a firm promise of
a111: Logged on 2019-07-20 13:42 mp_en_viaje: in other local news, ima go for coffee @ cafe de paris, karla marcsa 8 say about 18:00, if any phf s in town wanna join.
mp_en_viaje: re phf, it's pretty weird case, we met a coupla times in minsk ; then he just quit answering his phone. it was mildly concerning because he was having some health issues, but the people at his hotel wouldn't fucking pick up the phone and i opted against scouring the hospitals and police blotters before leaving.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, you got a business there...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I will point out that the Election does have an undesirable worst case where the Colorado/Reds and guy who identifies as an economist wins. In that scenario Uruguay spends 5 years it can't afford as NY/US vassal state
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 13:52 asciilifeform: really imho would rather have genesis of phf's, than a php concoction
a111: Logged on 2019-07-24 13:32 asciilifeform: grr phf is it gonna take 2 months for the thing to be in btcbase.org/patches so i can link to it ?!
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf will patch viewer ever get fed !? and how about logotron genesis ?! where didja go, phf ? feeding the fish ?
BingoBoingo: Well, it changes who goes to the courts and who write the rulebooks to either work with or around
asciilifeform: to asciilifeform seems approx as interesting as whether the blueskins will lose to redskins etc
BingoBoingo: Current polls show the Blancos/Nationalists winning the first round and thus the legislative plurality. Barring alien invasion there will be a second round runoff for the presidency. The FA guy is projected to lose to either the Blanco or the Red depending on who the first round puts in the runoff.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe? poll came out this week the showed them way behind in intention to vote. Local speculation surrounds that.
asciilifeform: i guess their miami cheques finally cleared ? nfi
BingoBoingo: The fat forehead party
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The present ruling coalition
BingoBoingo: In other news, this weekend every public member of the FA from Candidate Martinez to Pepe Mujica switched at once to calling Venezuela's democratically elected government a dictatorship.
asciilifeform: the hard part is getting to-what
BingoBoingo: Well, getting tmsr-cpu is looking like a matter with a clock running on it. Opens up whether we want MIPS, Alpha64-like, or something else
asciilifeform: asciilifeform thought that could escape from the yoke of 'the mercy of' cpu vendors, but turns out not so easy
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Also getting squeezed by the firms big enough simply getting their own arms printed
asciilifeform: rk co. seems to not be doing so hot in market. is, near as i can tell, being price-squeezed by the even cheaper (but for our application useless, as they dun boot bloblessly) arm clones
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to revisit the rk q in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-24#1924558
diana_coman: tbh I never used several pages of comments and having them broken at a random place seems like a stupid idea indeed; but then again, I probably messed about with all the knobs around there at one time or another.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the right cut here is kill comment pagination.
BingoBoingo: I don't recall running into it before either.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: there is indeed a "break comments into pages" etc; is that what you mean?
BingoBoingo: When I load it in my browser I get redirected to http://younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/#comment-4, which I suspect is how it should be generating the link in the first place.
diana_coman: possibly a theme thing though iirc I just used the basic theme, changed only the colour and added the author under title
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: the problem is that it fails to add the 1 there i.e. this resolves correctly: younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/comment-page-1/#comment-4
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: the comments links seem broken on younghands.club; is there more weirdness with the mp-wp install? e.g. http://younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/ links to http://younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/comment-page-/#comment-4 that 404s
asciilifeform mixes bag of cement to pour on the grave of this thing.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: per vendor's manual ( and interestingly HAD TO DUST IT OFF, there are ~0 useful sources on net, errybody wants to talk about intel's c++ 'intrinsics' lib re sse) they're supposed to operate in parallel.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 19:30 diana_coman: shrysr: one way to think of it is "strength of evidence on which I'm basing this evaluation"; as such, it's not some set amount of time or such purely mechanical measure; and moreover there is no direct reciprocity as interactions are never perfectly symmetrical like that.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925257 << the ~other~ way to look at it is, "if this person defaults my remedy is that im out of the whole thing", which is not an untenable stance, esp for knights
asciilifeform: ended up that yes needs, simply to match the performance of ~orig~ genesis ver.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 18:41 asciilifeform: in other noose, 'sse' is... a scam! the 'simd' variant of tlb is actually ~slower~ (at least on my amd 2393se) !!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the extra coad req'd to keep the sseism regs properly filled, entirely wipes out whatever cost saved by using the parallel 16byte searcher.
mp_en_viaje: i've made the sorta call in two minutes ; people occasionally do, especially across the gender gap. whole human brain is optimized precisely and specifically to make this sort of call in the shortest time possible, there's no other problem besides, perhaps, object tracking that we're as good at.
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, it's ~your~ estimation, you're the one that's supposed to know. in principle it could be said it's remarkable you're so firmly convinced in a coupla weeks ; but it could not be said it isn't possible.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i always suspected that 'fancy' x86 instrs were a sham (i.e. take just about as long, cuz really microcoded, as the classical alternative )
diana_coman: o.O that's some... interesting result there asciilifeform
lobbesbot: mp_en_viaje: The operation succeeded.
diana_coman: shrysr: one way to think of it is "strength of evidence on which I'm basing this evaluation"; as such, it's not some set amount of time or such purely mechanical measure; and moreover there is no direct reciprocity as interactions are never perfectly symmetrical like that.
BingoBoingo: shrysr: Well, it depends. diana_coman does have a long history of public performance you could be rating off of. It could also be the case that down the line you recalibrate your scale.
shrysr: BingoBoingo: re experience - would that also imply that it was 'short sighted' to rate diana_coman 10, after knowing her a couple of weeks, irrespective of the impact of her discussions ?
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:29 mp_en_viaje: if i rate A +3 and B+5, i communicate one same thing and one different thing : a) the similar thing is, a positive, for both. the different thing is, that one's less likely to change.
asciilifeform: will vpatch it anyway so perhaps other folx, w/ diff irons, can see whether 'still scam' or 'was scam in 2009' strictly
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'sse' is... a scam! the 'simd' variant of tlb is actually ~slower~ (at least on my amd 2393se) !!
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:31 mp_en_viaje: shrysr, is this because you did not see the article before, or is it because it "didn't make sense" and so discarded ?
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925199 thank you for explanation. I had seen your article earlier, but did not finish reading it, and did not refer to it in writing the post. However, I am revisiting the WoT and will revert with a better summary.
mp_en_viaje: do they even have a channel ?
diana_coman: lobbes: fine but what's your actual estimate on this something fresh off of the republican logbot tree?
lobbes: So, I want to apologize to diana_coman personally for this delay. Rest assured I am on the case
lobbes: And second; I would bet a lot of money that it will take me LESS time to simply code something fresh off of the republican logbot tree, then to deconstruct this frankenstein monster I created 4 years ago.
lobbes: Chiefly because in order to even install the heathen python coad, you need to first install and use "pip", which is dubious in its own right (see their 'mandatory code of conduct' for starters: https://www.pypa.io/en/latest/code-of-conduct/)
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 08:04 diana_coman: at least local log still works and at some point, it'll see the light of public I suppose
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925158 << Just to update: I've spent yesterday and the first half of today re-digging into the #eulora logotron coad, and I have come to the conclusion that I just want to burn it all and start over. (i.e. *I* don't even want to use it anymore)
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-drug-companies-hiding-negative-studies-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are Drug Companies Hiding Negative Studies? Adnotated.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:08 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes
asciilifeform: but in other strange, asciilifeform was just about to shelve the 'm' thing when realized how to do tlb lookup in o(1)
asciilifeform: there was defo thread in the logs, where mp_en_viaje elaborated on subj. but for some reason cannot find in o(1)
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/ << sadly not in there.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc this was the 'cancerous fags' piece
mp_en_viaje: sooo... anyone recall this years-old trilema article wherein the dilemma of the scumbag was discussed -- either say something that's already been said a trillion times and not stand out, or else say something for the reason that it wasn't said before, and stand out.
asciilifeform: diels-alder is how one makes gabriel_laddel fodder, tho, rather than strained nitrogens lol
mp_en_viaje: somebody's gotta make all the bombs and things, what can i say.
asciilifeform: i'ma guess they were looking for 'thermodynamics -- proposes, kinetics -- disposes' lol
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 12:08 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-28#1925178 << quite interesting on several levels. (not only the find per se, but that it actually includes 300pg of raw spectra, holyfuq)
mp_en_viaje: thanks god hilary clinton gave these morons their moron rights, wtf would the pre-existing world have done without their useless cuntheads.
mp_en_viaje: fancy that wonder, http://trilema.com/2015/the-pawnbroker/ came out 1964, nazi camp forced prostitution central thematic device.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in fucktarded wikipedia, "The subject of forced prostitution in the camps was alluded to in survivors' memoirs at least as early as 1972, when the first edition of Heinz Heger's book[5] was published. However, the subject remained largely taboo in studies of Nazism until the mid-1990s, when new publications by female researchers broke the silence."
mp_en_viaje: "Does the rating matter? No. You can rate anybody, and the ratings represent your social graph. Somebody with poor ratings from many different people should probably be treated with some caution, but even so these ratings cannot be used to judge anybody in any meaningful or profound manner." << this in particular is utter fucking nonsense.
mp_en_viaje: shrysr, is this because you did not see the article before, or is it because it "didn't make sense" and so discarded ?
mp_en_viaje: went through an entire article without reference to http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ which is fucken bizarre.
mp_en_viaje: adding them, dividing them, etcetera, is necessarily meaningless an activity, like adding any other letters.
mp_en_viaje: this is ~one~ of the senses in which deedbot ratings, though saved as numeric, ARE NOT NUMBERS.
diana_coman: that seems to be the hardest part for people to get; in fairness the actual meaning attached to a rating is up to the one giving the rating so ...
mp_en_viaje: if i rate A +3 and B+5, i communicate one same thing and one different thing : a) the similar thing is, a positive, for both. the different thing is, that one's less likely to change.
mp_en_viaje: if i rate someone -10, i thereby communicate two different things : a) a negative and b) how likely do i deem this to be my final appraisal (10 out of 10, ie as far as i
diana_coman: not a bad thing either
mp_en_viaje: is the guy in here ?
diana_coman: meanwhile in cute homeworks https://s.ragavan.co/2019/07/the-wot-versus-linked-in/
mp_en_viaje: kinda also illustrates the problem with "how did i not notice " / "was right there under nose" etc -- yes, was. in a field so huge fulla haystacks so vast...
mp_en_viaje: previously purely theoretic item
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other mega discoveries nobody hears about, https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.joc.8b00336 << total kinetic/thermodinamic control discovered in hexafluoro-2-butyne reaction with bis-furyl dienes
mp_en_viaje: as in, you've had the same experience with ukrainian girls ?!
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 08:31 mp_en_viaje: ~none of the (very eager, in a dedicated and as-perceived-moral-obligation sense) sluts i've talked to would consider a relationship with a local, or even a rusophone, of any kind ; NOR DO THEY THINK THIS IS AT ALL IMPORTANT.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-are-certain-behaviors-and-jobs-more-masculine-and-out-of-our-control-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Are Certain Behaviors -- And Jobs -- More Masculine? And Out Of Our Control? Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: "even talking to them [about sex and such things] sounds stupid/vulgar" were exact quotes.
mp_en_viaje: ~none of the (very eager, in a dedicated and as-perceived-moral-obligation sense) sluts i've talked to would consider a relationship with a local, or even a rusophone, of any kind ; NOR DO THEY THINK THIS IS AT ALL IMPORTANT.
mp_en_viaje: apparently the best thing for quality of life is absence of any consideration for human rights, complete corruption of the government and culturally embedded, societally recognized male inferiority.
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, re the kiev : it is REALLY GREAT to sit down in nice restaurant, order soup & fillet mignon and then leisurely coffee starting at... 3 in the morning.
diana_coman: at least local log still works and at some point, it'll see the light of public I suppose
trinque: there we go.
trinque: dorion: give it another try for me?
mp_en_viaje: but no, the querstion is not nor ever could be "why does lord prefer republican process over non-republican process", because of the very definitions of terms. if he doesn't prefer republican process he isn't a lord, irrespective what any text anywhere might be misleadingly stating ; and in any case any text anywhere will be brought into allignment with this theory sooner or later.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 23:35 mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 17:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever"
mp_en_viaje: as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
asciilifeform: me neither. and pretty handy. ( if it knew how to eat gnat, would be even handier )
lobbes: in other news, I spent a good 4 hours last night chatting with this new girly whose arms actually "grow from the right organ", as alf is fond of saying. It was a fucking pleasure for a change. Gonna try to introduce her to the logs and see if it takes.
lobbes: Gooood morning #trilema. Coming live from the new fortress de lobbes. So peaceful I can hear myself think again
spyked: mp_en_viaje, answer'd: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/097-hunchentoot-iii.html#comment1
spyked: meanwhile, I'll do something similar to last time: I'll reproduce the comment ad literam at the end of the post and answer below it. and until this is solved, I personally don't mind taking comments here or in any other channel that I reside in (e.g. #spyked)
a111: Logged on 2019-07-26 18:53 mp_en_viaje: im guessing for this one time http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fn1VH/?raw=true will have to be it ; but for the love of christ, what are you doing to me here ? am i going to simply ignore your articles because i know for a fact i'm not interestreded in reading something i can't comment on and you're forcing on me the dilemma of either not commenting at all or else losing it in pastes ? this won't do, if i use an hour to read a post i
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1925066 <-- the irony being that thetarpit comments implementation is dependent on the www server discussed in the post. the good part about this is that I should be able to do something about this soon; prolly not in the next 2-3 posts, but much sooner than I was before starting work on this.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1925061 <-- yes indeed! the graphviz src file is at http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2019/07/hunchentootarch.dot , as linked from http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/097-hunchentoot-iii.html#fn2
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-tale-of-three-soups-or-goodbye-minsk/ << Trilema -- The Tale of Three Soups, or Goodbye Minsk!
mp_en_viaje: in other supporting news, the punishment for interrupting me in the harem is often a fate worse than lashing.
ave1: yes, *fuck* I just got interrupted and now the whole idea about reading the log and *not* directly writing down reactions (if any ofcourse), gone..
mp_en_viaje: i know of no other definition for "life of the mind" besides this. this is what that is.
mp_en_viaje: and when it isn't, can't find shit, get pissed off, throw things around, think about how to fix the structure so doesn't recurr...
mp_en_viaje: quite. every possible event, even "unrelated" events is a rock thrown in the pond. now get it to reflect again, why not, what, you can't recompute wavefunctions for 10e30 particles in your head on the fly ?
ave1: As my job is now mostly communicating, I see the same thing with *meetings*. I explained the idea just fine and now the writing down becomes impossible, *because of that meeting*.
mp_en_viaje: quite. and then memory fades, and reinterprets, and soon enough all that;s left in the head is a list of proofs that each possible approach is actually unauthentic.
ave1: yes, the "I'll write it down later". And then later, no way you get it to come out as intended. Although the idea is still in my head.
mp_en_viaje: everyone else'd just sleep, because sure as fuck catering to one's intellectual life is way the fuck inconvenient, who the fuck even heard of inane shit like "interrupt partying to note"