Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i mean, it would be a *crime* not to put them to good use, eh.
asciilifeform: we also have jurov's keys, and new sks sets, and who knows by then what else.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i have whole C blocks, if you can figure out way to use them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait a second. the ssh server keyset was only 2mn ?
mircea_popescu: well, davos, you know. what the fuck happens there, random pop stars go to lipsync now and again right ?
Framedragger: and it's the end of twenty fucking sixteen, and bug was patched in 2008.
Framedragger: in fact.. due to https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ correctly pointing out that "This flaw is ugly because even systems that do not use the Debian software need to be audited in case any key is being used that was created on a Debian system.", someone should attempt botnet-brute-login to all 13M+ (i forget lol) ssh hosts with rng-fucked client keys.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-17: [15:40:00] <asciilifeform> btw everyone probably remembers this from the golden olden debian days, but these chumps tend to also have remote ssh login with debianized keyz
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161117/#508 << someone with time on their hands should write script to attempt logins at all of these with rng-fucked ssh keys (available at https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ i think though did not check, or re-gen themselves, shouldnt be hard)!
mircea_popescu: phf applied. lemme know if needs new or different, i'll change them np.
asciilifeform: l0l, they stole & cloned hanbot ?!
asciilifeform: ' ipinfo: 222.161.13.59, No Hostname, Changchun, Jilin, CN, 43.8800,125.3228, AS4837 CNCGROUP China169 Backbone ' << lel, buncha these
mircea_popescu: are the ns wrong ?
mircea_popescu: i think registrar switch trashed records or some other passive-agressive idiocy
asciilifeform: ah hm so i was wrong to assume that i nailed the box with last night's atrocities
asciilifeform: btw everyone probably remembers this from the golden olden debian days, but these chumps tend to also have remote ssh login with debianized keyz
mircea_popescu: at least the bot is QUICK, we've established that much.
asciilifeform: lel, another buenos aires
asciilifeform: then again i have nfi re the accuracy, my source is the geo-estimator kako added to his log...
mircea_popescu: ah i guess that's it, i didn't look at the right segment. these ARE ips after all, they're not geodistributed evenly.
asciilifeform: (over-represented in the earlier pops in fact)
asciilifeform: i dun see any regional gaps in there, with naked eye.
mircea_popescu: exactly like the germans, really.
mircea_popescu: yeah. the latino 3rd worlders are high on "open source" without understanding much of it / the context.
mircea_popescu: kinda the problem with rss and in general with pull-notify : the polling interval is a magic number.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah whenever deedbot polls it gets the last 10. but in that interval the rss could have updated 500 times even
Framedragger: i take it feed is truncated due to rss / whatever - the actual amounts are much larger
mircea_popescu: you're the right guy to ask, because the provider rss should give out real data, but to spit out in the channel because of line limit rules you're excused to shorten.
Framedragger: (though, iirc github removed shitty ssh client keys - don't recall when jurov collected them, i think he mentioned this)
mircea_popescu: and if experience has taught us anything, it's that when discussing concrete crypto implementations "theoretically possible" means something like "it's theoretically possible leonardo de caprio's new girlfriend will also get dumped when she turns 25."
asciilifeform: i would leave out the 'q' but it is theoretically possible that these will pop non-debian keyz...
asciilifeform: then we would not have to 'q'.
mircea_popescu: alf has finally found a way to spam the chan that won't have him send cents to tipjar.
Framedragger: (and on a side note, "hang out on #trilema after splitting with gf" has been one of the more constructive choices i've made in my life)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't, not really. as pissed off as i/anyone can be, "What I currently see as best option is to actually comment out those 2 lines of code. But I have no idea what effect this really has on the RNG. The only effect I see is that the pool might receive less entropy. But on the other hand, I'm not even sure how much entropy some unitialised data has. What do you people think about removing those 2 lines of code?
Framedragger: if i end up with any consultling work due to phuctor at some point in the future i'll commit to sharing some of the profitz lol. this is good stuff. which reminds me, is "We expect to add a detailed product page to the website" still happening? i'm just super curious
mircea_popescu: with a link to "Kurt Roeckx is a contemptible shithead" article i hope.
mircea_popescu: then yes dates!
Framedragger: asciilifeform: does your script pull out only these debian-bullet-fucked moduli? would be nice to be able to distinguish in the-db-which-im-gonna-put-them-in
mircea_popescu: well most recently https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5d9p6b/eitheror_ignore/ but really you can just do a search or something
mircea_popescu: and in other side chuckles, everytime someone mentions me on reddit everyone KNOWS shit, in the sense of having personal library of "outrageous mp quotes", and the whole thing turns into a contest of whose list is better.
mircea_popescu: and in other sweet 16s, notice the dribble. http://68.media.tumblr.com/c831dc88bddf02726cba195b5764512e/tumblr_msxya9bv0b1sfcru6o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: well if they aren't, someone's gotta have some 'splainin' to do :)
mircea_popescu: odds are some systems even use the same thing unpatched to this day.
Framedragger: i can take a look at the data to see how easy would it be to stitch things up next ~wed
mircea_popescu: when he's done run a diff between the ips of fucked moduli and your banners, then select distinct ?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you retained the banners yes ?
mircea_popescu: it's more shocking than "rape" at first, but they get used to it eventually.
mircea_popescu: what's the score, 1.5k rape victims out of 100k hopefuls ie ~2% ?
asciilifeform: after the second bullet fires
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform will you do the honors this time ?
mircea_popescu: i am ill equipped to properly interpolate the imbecility of "computer experts" in the wild today.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 13:49 asciilifeform: debian had 32768 (yes) possible ssh keys per size variant, 2006-2008, because of 'bug' (if you believe the 'accident' i have five or six bridges to sell you)
asciilifeform: btw many of these moduli have dozens or moar ips listed.
asciilifeform: afaik there was never a public demolition derby of boxes still having these. now -- is.
asciilifeform: debian had 32768 (yes) possible ssh keys per size variant, 2006-2008, because of 'bug' (if you believe the 'accident' i have five or six bridges to sell you)
thestringpuller: The spinach and tomatoes are doing good. But my peppers...not so much.
BingoBoingo: vvande: What's a Christian? danielpbarron keeps the dictionary definition of that one here and I think there's maybe 100-ish of those per said official definition.
vvande: Is there such a thing?
thestringpuller: that's only the tip of the iceberg. he literally stated, "I've been having back room discussions with other miners." << only tip of iceberg
Framedragger: ahh, i missed the qntra news item.
Framedragger: thestringpuller: you mean this? https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/797160809306714112?lang=en
Framedragger: though, e==35 (not prime) in these it appears, so prolly not.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 05:44 asciilifeform promises a tall drink of your choice next we meet, to the 31111117 d000d who can immediately say how this was done.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-17#1568643 << took all the factors found, tried the +- next primes ?
asciilifeform: could easily be in the thousands.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this used a thing published long ago by entirely other people
BingoBoingo: Well bahamas is still in the white house till June 20th. Prolly ought to publish a something before the black bag comes.
asciilifeform: possibly this is biggest thermonuke of usg idiot ops in recentl history.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: these are 100% items that were already queued up. no speedups involved.
asciilifeform pours water on the four smoking, red-hot barrels
BingoBoingo: member berries harvested from the bushes outside Ft. Mead?
asciilifeform promises a tall drink of your choice next we meet, to the 31111117 d000d who can immediately say how this was done.
asciilifeform himself does not know how many there are. this could go on all night.
asciilifeform: there's moar
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: yes, you would. and this is thought to be impractical, but not impossible (see the atomic jet of the '50s, for instance.)
ben_vulpes: to achieve the same effect with fans you'd need to dissipate at least the same amount of energy through the fan motors as you'd liberate from the fuel, no?
ben_vulpes: there is also the upstream compressor driven off the same shaft but a) that's a compressor not a fan and b) that compressed gas is reacted with hydrocarbons to throw off oodles of gas cfm
ben_vulpes: in jet engines, the nozzles release combustion gases and expand them through a turbine to drive the fan shaft
asciilifeform: hard to see much in the clip. iirc sketches survived somewhere.
asciilifeform: they then offered payware 'secret domain' addrs, but i have nfi how well this worked, because it defeated THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT , with money-chargin', account-makin', etc.
asciilifeform: the more interesting detail is that eventually it became ~useless, the sort of derps who demand 'email confirm' started blacklisting @mailinator addrs.
ben_vulpes: deedbot is in the habit of sending encrypted one time pads
ben_vulpes: in other cowsie news, https://gcaptain.com/watch-cow-marked-export-jumps-ship-swims-shore-fremantle/
mircea_popescu: i think they're just about college age
ben_vulpes: the kids aren't even in high school yet!
ben_vulpes: consider the decades of speeches and /books/
ben_vulpes: "The Times reported that Mr. Trump had taken calls from the leaders of Egypt, Israel, Russia and Britain, but said they had been conducted haphazardly and without State Department briefings that traditionally guide conversations with foreign leaders."
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/xU2lc << for german readers. basically, arabic-german interpreter lady plays fly on the wall, aghast to learn that moslems hate germans / xtians and have every intention of supplanting their hosts with uber-fecundity, whether filmed on hbo or not, whether there's beer or not, whether traffic is bad or not.
mircea_popescu: trilema.com is also directed to the general public.
Framedragger: (if no trust in domains in the first place, what difference if 2nd level or 3rd level)
mircea_popescu: looks altogether more likely it's never actually getting conquered. if they last out the 70 days that's that for "peacekeeping" bs there.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm curious, why don't you do mpex.trilema.com ? or would that link the two explicitly and hence would not be favourable?
mircea_popescu: mats it dun look like the "two months" were anything but the bitcoin "two weeks" does it.
shinohai: I've decided this is the time to follow in phf's footsteps and curate a hosts file for all tmsr sites
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pete_dushenski and other web-facing interested parties : i'll have some more domains linked this week. in the meanwhile, editing your /etc/hosts to correctly allocate the domain names will fix your problem.
mircea_popescu: i ended up with a pile of old records. ahhh the 80s
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> unrelatedly, anyone remember anthrax ? the band ? << for sure
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, anyone remember anthrax ? the band ?
pete_dushenski: mpex missingness probably related to the issues with internetbs.net not accepting btc anymore
BingoBoingo: Also anyone recall the current url for mpex web?
BingoBoingo: mats: You apply for any presidential appointments in the Trumpreich yet?
mats: also, the offensive against Raqqa has been going on for about a week
mats: >Naval sources said the decision was “like Nelson deciding to get rid of his cannons and go back to muskets” lul
mircea_popescu: ooo that's glorious. where's the full res thing ?
mircea_popescu: IF this happens, it's definitely along the lines of "what the fuck are you still doing here, i told you we have a no bums policy"
mircea_popescu: stop the hate.
asciilifeform: the extended contemplation of ~using~ that thing in some future edifice here has got to be a running joke, which asciilifeform isn't in on..
Framedragger: 5518 * the NS RRset is allowed (Type 4).
Framedragger: 5515 * and a optional NS RRset (Type 1) or it has neither
BingoBoingo: Hey, I just applied to literally all of the appointable positions outside of national security.
mircea_popescu: ake upwards of HALF of all the rich barangs in most traditional prositution dens of asia.
mircea_popescu: "Still, she admires those who take great risks for quick wealth. She talks glowingly about the Canadian customers who made a fortune through credit card fraud before escaping to Cambodia. Her eyes shine dreamily at remembrance of that criminal cock." << incidentally, by the latest reports other than you suckers playing by the books, the population of people who smartened out and took off is so drastically increasing, they m
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the land of poverty syrop, marvels are possible
mircea_popescu: random nobody from the slate jewish tribe.
asciilifeform: who the hell is that
mircea_popescu: and heather schwedel is, predictably, a woman that obviously never worked out.
mircea_popescu: "i want my peas not to touch!!!1" "if i turn around and there's any peas on the fucking plate they'll touch your rectum directly."
BingoBoingo: But seriously, the butthurt "Y u no interested in 90 year old women!"
Framedragger: (..and of course bind has at least one "basically completely undocumented" config option, "order random_1", which modifies the round robin process, or the eventual reply. "didn't you get the memo, peter?")
mircea_popescu has ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS had young women introduced by old friends with the equivalent of "and this is my daughter. she's old enough now."
mircea_popescu: and what the fuck is the problem again ? these people never heard of whore dynasties ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is tony bennett ?
BingoBoingo: In other OMG look at the butthurt that some dude is dating a 50 year old woman https://archive.is/xzuuc
BingoBoingo: How sure are you that you aren't a grandfather, at least biologically...
mircea_popescu: why does everyone just assume i don't know what i'm talking about. just because i sound like a clueless grandfather doesn't mean i am one omygerd.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oh you can't even imagine how many 'additional' data fields domain needs to be actually usable by current dns clients. everything from start of authority to multiple TTLs etc. and that's the saner part of things...
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/WdGO3 << Farmers having some fertilizer run off bad. Nutcases intentionally dumping fertilizer into the ocean good.
Framedragger: and here i thought i could exploit other people's knowledge :p
Framedragger: the working assumption would be that if necessary does permute, it will necessarily set a new order for each request to follow. dangerous assumption, sure.
Framedragger: can this be used to approximate the frequency of dns requests to that nameserver? :p
Framedragger: curious: when looking at dns round robin, i found out that some nameservers - of those who do round robin, i.e. permuting list of say dns A records - sometimes do not shuffle them around, if dig'd in quick succession.
mircea_popescu: also perhaps of interest in some circles, apparently there's such a thing as https://sovietmen.wordpress.com/2016/09/17/tiziana-catone/
asciilifeform: (though apparently only herders are paid, i showed up to one of these, 0 pay was offered)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: they ~are~ at 'work', herr soros is payin'
phf: specifically i can count 8 cop cars just oustide my window, 2 umarked cars with blinkers, sirens from elsewhere, an EMS car in the distance, and a helicopter somewhere very nearby
phf: well, it's 50 people, but, there's at least two police cars on each intersection coming up and a helicopter
shinohai: Pour boiling oil on them phf
phf: literally all the usual suspects
phf: huh, there's a protest outside my window
mircea_popescu: and in other heights of improbability, http://68.media.tumblr.com/af7b548abd183d84bd67d503a2da6a79/tumblr_mrjaeyFe2N1ria8qho1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: (in the case of the global warming scam - the whole moneygrubbing angle is particularly defensible. sure, the jews themselves may be stupid. but the people who benefit from this particular fraud aren't generally.)
mircea_popescu: i'm satisfied by now they're actually bereft of language/thinking skills, so they'll simply carry on being jews until we gut them.
mircea_popescu: it's really not that far removed from human experience as to excuse ignorance. except of course the idle are idle, not as a label but as a thing, and so never encountered anything in their life.
mircea_popescu: amateur statisticians (such as i dunno, horse bettors, fantasy league players etc) constantly run into this problem where an entity outperforms another two years running but not the two years together.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ( their introduction led to massive apparent increase in brain injury. which was really reduction in concussion deaths... )
mircea_popescu: it's ubiquitous, really. kind-of why "segmentation" is so beloved by the garglers of my week-old cum (who prefer to call themselves "web analytics experts").
asciilifeform: re the smoke babies, there was another well-known instance of the effect -- the incident with the steel helmet of ww1 britain
mircea_popescu: if it takes glassing washington, i'm in line to press the button.
asciilifeform: maybe after this hellhole i live in is finally thermonuked
mircea_popescu: and mosquitoes are very good exemplars for jews in this discussion - it has been my long held view they must be exterminated, as a species, permanently, as a minimal requirement of calling the human species civilised. and they ARE being exterminated. we will die in a world with no mosquitoes.
mircea_popescu: that its mechanisms "think" bloodsucking pays has no bearings whatsoever on the reality of the matter. as it happens - it doesn't pay.
mircea_popescu: and the conclusion "because it's fucking dumb" is perfectly reasonable.
asciilifeform: flea ain't esp. clever either. but he knows how to flea.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 14:19 mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568342 << why not the parsimonious hypothesis -- they do it for the easy moneyz, bankrupt the idiot 'goys', not as if they were people etc
mircea_popescu: also as taleb correctly points out, this example is just a very good example, but not the whole story. what it exemplifies is the ineptitude of a class of people, whom we call jews, and whom we wish to see in camps. these people understand some - enough to be harmful - but not enough, so as to be useful. they are worse than stupid, because of this familiarity with first order but incapacity for higher order reasoning.
mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!"
mircea_popescu: because low weight babies have much poorer prospects than normal babies, and because smoking mothers cause a significant migration of their babies from normal to low weight, they "drown out" the other causes, getting apparent "better" prognosis (hey, the kid's not afflicted by trisomy with a 90% death before puberty prognosis ; but merely by smoking mom, with a 1% death before puberty prognosis)
mircea_popescu: the reason for this apparent paradox ("how can kids do ok in A and better in B yet still do worse in A+B ?!) is that smoking CAUSES low birth weight ; but there are also other causes of low birth weight which also have a much more severe impact on life/survival expectancy than smoking.
mircea_popescu: however, ignoring the distinction, one can also make the observation that children born to smoking mothers fare significantly worse than the general population.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of this much statistics, one could conclude (wrongly) that smoking in the mother is protective for the neonate.
mircea_popescu: once people become interested in smoking, it was observed that smoking mothers' babies of normal weight fare no better or worse than the general population ; whereas smoking mothers' babies of low weigh fare ~significantly~ better than the general population (of low birth weight babies).
mircea_popescu: and since taleb's twitter is full of "simpson's paradox", let's add it to the record. it is universally the case that low birth weight is a predictor of infant mortality. this has been observed across centuries and across cultures/geographies. even if the exact value that contitutes "low birth weight" varies, the effects of the classification are ubiquitous.
mircea_popescu: almost as if we shared talking points on a napkin. which we haven't, but there it is. the iyi/jews in question'd be excused if they thought "massive right wing conspiracy", because hey.
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty impressed at how well it goes with http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568310 << and yet he writes on medium. the mind boggles.
mircea_popescu: islam has won the fitness race ; chiefly because the "swj" replacement for "fundamentalist christian" is SO FUCKING UNFIT, even islam has a chance. as well as gasteropodes and other dead branches that forgot to die out.
mircea_popescu: "oh no mp, you got it all wrong" "sure, sure. tell me you'd crack the skull of some dude fucking your friendzone. right now." "uh." "then sit down."
mircea_popescu: match made in heaven, there'll be no war.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 07:07 pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/34vqO << steve bannon, trumpreich's newly appointed 'chief strategist', back in 2014 describing the rise of centre-right populism in the west. looks like bannon's veeery xtian and therefore foresees all-out global war between islam and judeo-xtian west, a war he's all too adamant in cautioning the complacent europeans against taking too lightly.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568306 << this is rank nonsense. westian womenz wanna be fucked ; arab runts want to fuck em ; western men want to watch the whole thing on hbo / maaaaybe film it on their phone if there's beer and not too bad traffic.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568292 << yes well, i make no claim to have invented a new kind of cunt. still using the same one everyone else uses, over here.
Framedragger: i also liked the part where if javascript is given a file and it doesn't recognize if it's a js file, it'll just try to eval it, for good measure, in case it is js.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 03:57 mircea_popescu: bwahaha i just for the first time read about the whole javascript native prototype reset thing. Number.prototype.valueOf = function(){return 42;} srsly ?
Framedragger: so the conflict thing is, i suppose, in principle settled in my mind.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 01:24 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568033 << i really don't see that past the "sunrise" so to call it there's any need to give a shit. i would not negrate anyone for registering "someone else's" domain after the system comes online and anyone can register whatever. i do think it's pretty idiotic to bring it online empty ; i won't support a system that tries that ; and i think the comparison with mining/premining is entirely w
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 01:26 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568036 << what other rounds ?
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568065 << i guess http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568062 explains it - there are no 'other rounds'. before-sunrise, and after-sunrise only.
ben_vulpes: > Kryptowire was jumpstarted by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS S&T)
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: ty for the nomination. other than wear very sharp suits, know which fork to use at which dinner course, have had tremendous orthodontics, be able to pull up to a reception in a wide variety of long-wheelbase luxury sedans, be able to hold a conversation with most any iyi regardless of background, what all's entailed ?
pete_dushenski: but now that shillary lost and trumpreich reigneth, the bad guy is west, not east. so bank on more such EVIL CHINESE THINGS coming to light in the not-too-distant future.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/E7s4j << in other nooz, your android cell phone may be routinely sending all your txt msgs to EVIL CHINESE SERVERS.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/34vqO << steve bannon, trumpreich's newly appointed 'chief strategist', back in 2014 describing the rise of centre-right populism in the west. looks like bannon's veeery xtian and therefore foresees all-out global war between islam and judeo-xtian west, a war he's all too adamant in cautioning the complacent europeans against taking too lightly.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the Trumpreich application allows selecting for multiple positions and departments.
BingoBoingo: Ok my application to join the Trumpreich has been submitted.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-27 00:32 mircea_popescu: but that aside, it all boils down to the ancient (here and iirc on trilema too) "what's the devil have to pay you to love him" thing.
mircea_popescu: but there's a sweet spot, and boy is it sweet.
asciilifeform: (i've picture mircea_popescu & co. on circus trapeze ever since his tale of the semicircular loop thing)
trinque: this plus arms held back, chick across side of bed or other surface
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how many fellows here present have discovered the wonder of the sixty degree fuck ?
mircea_popescu: well trump doesn't have the obamaproblem. for one thing - grabbing. for the other, he has some practice with "on your back, mel"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if nothing else they might send valium.
mircea_popescu: need each other for moral support.
mircea_popescu: trinque there's that many for the ~same reason highschool dorks move in packs. WHAT IF A GIRL SAYS SOMETHING
BingoBoingo figures what's the worst that could happen. It's been a few years since the FBI knocked on my door.
BingoBoingo: "Please describe why you hope to be a part of the President Elect's administration:" << my answer "Through working my program with my sponsor I believe I am ready to let go, let God, and offer myself completely to the work of summoning The Great Again."
BingoBoingo: Holy shit I'm already an elder statesman of the Republic!
BingoBoingo: Because still the evil empire.
BingoBoingo: Anyways if I am in the USDA maybe I can advance the cause of complete bermudagrass eradication?
BingoBoingo: "Under Secretary of Agriculture for Research, Education, and Economics" << Is this pretentious enough title for a lord infiltrating the Great Again to apply for or should I just go Secretary of Agriculture?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but if you get to inject code into any of these shits, the whole shebang where they get imported collapses. say you hijack google's tracking bs and put a sprinkling of that in there.
mircea_popescu: bwahaha i just for the first time read about the whole javascript native prototype reset thing. Number.prototype.valueOf = function(){return 42;} srsly ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 0 good reason. (doesn't strike me as ideal work for extreme introvert folk who leave the house every month at best, but what do i know)
mircea_popescu: they take foreign immigrant mexican latinos ?!
BingoBoingo: So who is applying to the Trump Transition team as TMSR ambassador?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> remind me, how << Blockchain bloats to death, merge mined with Bitcoin so little incentive for miners to include any data... the reasons go on-anon
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mebbe a roundup, it's just the empire's dns bookkeeping
asciilifeform: also who the hell isn't a) already holding whole blockchain or b) connected to reliable and trusted box that IS
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a spurious objection, you'd still have to hold the whole blockchain to avoid o(blocks) in your insane anti-model.
mircea_popescu: there's iirc ~300 mn DOMAIN NAMES.
mircea_popescu: and no, with trims it's well into the tb range.
asciilifeform: btw here's an exercise, tally up the mass of all of the code on your linux box that is needed to get it to where it can query dns as we knew it
mircea_popescu: client doesn't hold the whole fucking dns db holy shit.
mircea_popescu: then if it is, whole thing should just be central server.
asciilifeform: updates happen as the blox come in, neh?
mircea_popescu: and not btc + "telegraph" for the same reason - horribru data exchange profile.
asciilifeform: nah, don't need to 'talk to each one' specially, just look in your blocksxxx.dat for all sends to 1FuCkGoAtS..... and decode the payload.
mircea_popescu: now imagine if instead of splitting it up via delegation, you simply made the problem exponentially worse by introducing a gossip layer in there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think for a second : the reason delegation exists is because a) people are idiots and b) the lists get long. in that order.
asciilifeform: i do not necessarily go with 'EVERYTHING must be made of blockchaintronium!111' thing. (if you recall this was actually subj of 1st conversation between mircea_popescu & asciilifeform , on the former's www, back in the day...) but i also dun see why to create a 'throne' if there is a simple means of not creating a throne and solving the problem.
asciilifeform: just that it is not the most brilliant neutral selling point for asciilifeform in particular, that's all.