mircea_popescu: (note, as historical amusement, that the last time "modern democracy" libertards were massacred was the result of collusion between military and populist leadership - which apparently is so burnished into their collective memory as to make that arrangement the #1 bad.)
asciilifeform: engine -- the princes going their own way, the ungluing of the cheapo knockoff rome thing they had going.
asciilifeform: there is the 'engine' and the 'chrome', i.e. the actual motive ideology, vs the window-dressing. similar to usg's 'hyooman rights!1111' chrome, around a 'market for hollywood and cocacola' engine.
mircea_popescu: find me a point of divergence. even fucking global warming was there, in 1572.
asciilifeform: incidentally, they were not the most catastrophically 'burn it all' radical, either. picture if muntzer et al had won instead.
mircea_popescu: they sprang out of the EXACT thing hillary sprang out of : a) individual problems are a collective concern ; b) "we" are all equally dignified and entitled ; c) you name it
asciilifeform: fr-speaking protestants ? afaik luther et al sprung out of a very clearly decaying corpse of the church, and not external baccilae of any sort
asciilifeform: either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so define the hughuenots for me ?
asciilifeform: i'm not sold on the notion that the protagonists of these great axe-times, sword-times, map readily onto modern folx
mircea_popescu: funny what the wisdom age brings does to one's childish notions.
mircea_popescu: and i deeply regret any of the fucking libertards escaped.
mircea_popescu: twenty years ago i was scratching my head uncomprehendingly at the hughuenot massacre. today i'm rather inclined to thing st barhtolomew may be the true and proper republican holiday.
mircea_popescu: twenty years ago i was appalled at the atrocity of the original most serene republic sacking constantinople. now i am very much remiss they left anyone alive or any one thing standing, should have merv'd the fucking place.
mircea_popescu: you don't even have to look at it. just the fact that the cockroaches exist, somewhere nearby, will fuck up your shit and sour the milk in your fridge.
mircea_popescu: convenience culture, however defined as consumerism, modern democracy, us-liberalism, whatever is the closest approximation in nature of that brain-breaking-image sf concept.
mircea_popescu: take the web. there's nothing fundamental about html or the upstream concepts that require it to become a pile of shit. but the simple proximity of aol ENSURE, pointedly necessitate and absolutely guarantee, it WILL be a pile of shit. no matter ANYTHING else.
mircea_popescu: simple proximity of the idiots ruins things.
mircea_popescu: it LOOKS like a mountain, or a hill or a weir, but it is a touched mountain, hill or weir. and if you eat from there - you will be dumb.
BingoBoingo: AHA, The Iroquois ruined New England!
mircea_popescu: the simple existence of an empire of convenience physically alters the geography, so that no one, even people unrelated to the original idiots, can never amount to anything in that physical space.
mircea_popescu: because paleologoi polluted the square - not with nuclear waste, which resolves in a century, but with cultural waste, which doesn't resolve in millenium+
mircea_popescu: and the fact that the byzantines were nearby is inescapable ; you can build any odessa you want on that tile - it will be a shithole
mircea_popescu: the geography preexists it.
asciilifeform: odessa in particular was put there in end of 18th c..
mircea_popescu: before the basishitoi.
asciilifeform: when, by mircea_popescu's lights, was 'odessa fine' ? during reign of catherine II /
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/18-year-old-somali-child-killed-by-police-at-the-ohio-state-university/ << Qntra - 18 Year Old Somali Child Killed By Police At The Ohio State University
mircea_popescu: hardly. subcultures that embrace comfort do lasting damage to the geography. which is how and why mexico is a shithole now - the aztecs lived there. which is why and how ukraina and the dalmatian coast are shitholes now - byzantines lived nearby.
asciilifeform: ( and when not, the next occupant of the real estate which they fouled with their presence, finishes the job )
asciilifeform: idea here is that cultures that die of stupidity tend to rm -rf / themselves quite thoroughly
asciilifeform: ( do we still know half a fuck's worth re what nailed, e.g., the minoans ? )
mircea_popescu: it is certainly the case that eastern europe / middle east is a shithole now because instead of razing byzantium in 500, they waited till 1500.
mircea_popescu: perhaps the byzantine empire and some selected chinese confucianist tards.
mircea_popescu: there is no historical comparison to just how utterly wrong that thing is.
mircea_popescu: the notion that someone somewhere thinks in terms of "x is worse than the us" is mindnumbing. fucking hell, the third reich only killed SOME people.
asciilifeform: it isn't even the cheapening. trabant did 0 damage to the ~idea~ of the auto. it is instead the deliberate mass-farming of subhuman 'democratic' fungus.
mircea_popescu: same EXACT thing happened to everyhing else america touched. the damage that brown hole of fetid shit does to things is such, that the aggegate benefits to mankind of say computers, or philosophy, or you name it are actually exceeded by ustardian damage in the short half century since it even became a thing.
mircea_popescu: the parallel here is pretty evident - for a century now man's eternal dream to fly was realised. it was realised by great minds in europe, and then taken over by usians. who FUCKED IT. but i mean so utterly, that at the last count cca 2008 it came out the aggregate air travel industry lost more money in its history than it made. period and full stop, consider that.
mircea_popescu: yes but rubbish in the sense of supermarket rubbish - useless and ubiquitous, with a fury worthy of a better cause.
asciilifeform played all of the ~good~ ultimas. i.e. 1-7.5.
mircea_popescu: shift ? ayup. the great idea is "what if we took ultima and made it in 3d", that's fucking it. "i want a car just like that car but paint it pink and write my name on the dash".
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't necessarily mind one for eulora. the problem is that in this, like every other field, the tinydicked western men are entirely infertile. all they want is to copy and reimplement, which is how they ended up doing THE SAME FUCKING GAME 500 times. ever heard of ultima ? how about runescape ? guess what - it's the same fucking thing, down to the t, by which initialism we mean the fucking tutorial. EXACTLY. oh and plane
mircea_popescu: hanbot the life and times huh.
mats: since some folks bailed i think i am the third largest holder
asciilifeform: aha, and i don't expect the radio repeater thing to become a future s.nsa item either
asciilifeform: mats: it means that i don't pay motherfucking retail price. y'know, one where you feel like complete idiot because 'hack magazine' folk are buying ENTIRE BOARDS for below what you pay per-chip.
hanbot: if anyone is trying to maintain old ubuntu installs, and ran into this bs where synaptic/apt-get no longer works because it can't locate any repos: the nice ubuntu folks broke their directory scheme. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "us.archive." with "old-releases." and then hit reload. for as long as that lasts.
asciilifeform: (they must've used same consultant as who made klingon)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 19:57 pete_dushenski: ya i can see that. i don't find the period entirely hermetic, just unfamiliar as i slowly bridge the gaps in my historical knowledge between the romans and the french revolution. currently working backwards from the end of that period via peter the great's life and times.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 19:51 mircea_popescu: early history, eg ages of settlement are relatively easy to understand, and open to "idea people" ; late history ie collapses of civilisations are not easy to understand, and entirely hermetic to they unblessed with esprit de finesse.
mats: i remember now, there was a lack of entropy source
asciilifeform: (and woe be to the experimenter who actually needs to know whether such a component is available in bulk, where, at what price point, or for how long ! )
asciilifeform: now if you want to buy a quintillion of them, yes, china will send a steamer with 10,000,001 crates. but this is quite irrelevant to an experimenter.
asciilifeform: ( in a much earlier even thread , about the marvell chipset used in pogotron, i found same thing -- the chip is simply not www-orderable in the west, at least not at any kind of price point that isn't a laugh when stood next to the price of whole pogo )
asciilifeform: but fwiw the encapsulated item is about 1 $ via various channels
asciilifeform: the thing that cooled asciilifeform's interest (to a slow simmer) is that the things remain unavailable in-bulk other than via chinese meatwot or something else inaccessible by asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: heh. with any $item the possible outcomes of the problem-function would be either "it sucks [reason list]" or "not enough people to use it". i guess the 2nd is how you count success.
asciilifeform: mats: lack of people-other-than-asciilifeform to play with it
mats: what was the sticking point with esp8266? i forget.
pete_dushenski: ya i can see that. i don't find the period entirely hermetic, just unfamiliar as i slowly bridge the gaps in my historical knowledge between the romans and the french revolution. currently working backwards from the end of that period via peter the great's life and times.
mircea_popescu: early history, eg ages of settlement are relatively easy to understand, and open to "idea people" ; late history ie collapses of civilisations are not easy to understand, and entirely hermetic to they unblessed with esprit de finesse.
pete_dushenski: man alive was politics in the 1500s convoluted. league of cognac this, renegade troops of charles v that, pope clement vii fliplopping and running away and my oh my oh my..
mircea_popescu: and so he's quite literally giving commentators enough rope to hang themselves with. the trilema way.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 14:20 mircea_popescu: also as taleb correctly points out, this example is just a very good example, but not the whole story. what it exemplifies is the ineptitude of a class of people, whom we call jews, and whom we wish to see in camps. these people understand some - enough to be harmful - but not enough, so as to be useful. they are worse than stupid, because of this familiarity with first order but incapacity for higher order reasoning.
mircea_popescu: he correctly identified the problem with modern "educated" "liberals", which is - http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568343 aka first pass knowledge. whatever they could scrounge up in a quick skim through wikipedia reinforced by a smattering of wqhat was trending on tedtalks.
pete_dushenski: for that we can blame bannon. i didn't ask to research the complicated tudors. just what came up on the docket.
mircea_popescu: anyway, masha gessen. the progre party is in such disarray the actual bona fide assets of the embassy state are stuck doing editorial work.
mircea_popescu: tis a risky venture to pick one's example from a period when the consensus was to call all deaths "of poison" just because everyone was trying to appear worldier and therefore jadeder and cynicer than everyone else.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it's not even that simple, there's that entire wolf episode, rome got sacked also... twas a murky time.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's perfectly fine when the libertard does it! he's not supposed to follow the herd, and is not a redneck "conspiracy-minded" nutcase etc for being... a conspiracy-minded nutcase.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: a slave isn't a slave to all, just to his master. so it was that clement vii was obsequious to charles v, not henry viii. anyways i can see that the sentence was poorly worded and it's been corrected. so cheers :D
mircea_popescu: e popping of the libertard delusion" thing). apparently, and seriously, who could have predicted this, apparently diverging from consensus reality is only bad when the OTHER guys do it. you know those racist sociopaths who didn't buy the global warming fraud.
mircea_popescu: "Rule #4: Be outraged. If you follow Rule #1 and believe what the autocrat-elect is saying, you will not be surprised. But in the face of the impulse to normalize, it is essential to maintain ones capacity for shock. This will lead people to call you unreasonable and hysterical, and to accuse you of overreacting. It is no fun to be the only hysterical person in the room. Prepare yourself." (from the same "how to survive th
mircea_popescu: a) yes, that's the fucking point - and more people who could be taken at their word would be an incredible improvement over "open society" and "modern democracy" ; b) no, not "humans". women. strictly women. the ~FEMALE~ response to "confronted publicly with the unacceptable", which is just a periphrastic mention of public rape, is to... what was that line, "i am a woman, david. do you think i hate children ? must i choose ag
mircea_popescu: in other lolz, "Rule #1: Believe the autocrat. He means what he says. Whenever you find yourself thinking, or hear others claiming, that he is exaggerating, that is our innate tendency to reach for a rationalization. This will happen often: humans seem to have evolved to practice denial when confronted publicly with the unacceptable."
mircea_popescu: the avatars of "Safety" - have a bunch of men dork around with guns that are NEVER charged, get them used to using them like doorstops.
ben_vulpes: related: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Joburgs-dumbest-policeman.jpg
asciilifeform: penis what penis they fuck kalash buttstock.
mircea_popescu: mats pointedly absent, any reference to how small the arab penises are.
mats: >Jasmin Olbrich, having a quick lunch of French fries at a food truck outside the educational center, said she liked the Middle Eastern looks and complained that German men "drink too much beer, watch way too much soccer and are just so white!"
asciilifeform: (vertical displays 'magically' reveal 1,001 brokennesses in visual designs you would otherwise never know about )
asciilifeform: over here i have to crank 'zoom' until the text below is as tall as my thumb
asciilifeform: trinque: is there a simple way to make the graph fill the area of display available to it ?
trinque: then a moment of enlightenment came and I decided to proceed unfairly :p
trinque: aha, in point of fact I ran graphviz on the whole dataset first. output was hilariously useless
asciilifeform: they sure did.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform generally in the holes where men fought, children now play.
mircea_popescu: or you know, offer a separate "all conceivable datapoints", but imo waste of your time and the whole point is that their presence drowns out the actually important people.
asciilifeform: afaik the old 'wots' are ~100% dead (in the sense of 0-measurable-activity-in-n-years)
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think there's anything meaningful there ; should prolly purge all those with a nil reputation string.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to consider the history of the republic. first it was a very vague thing in a very large soup that was #bitcoin-otc ; that split up between the libertards and the sane people ; me, mod6 a few others moved on to -assets. then that also split up, between whatever the hell it was, modern-science-democracy-and-consumerism and the current #trilema.
trinque: I have no strong opinion that they should.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 16:35 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's going to be so unfair when the white working class is entirely satisfied with the recent championship pay-per-view outcome
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1573807 << they're positively fucking endearing in their unyielding imbecility, "oh, the data acquisition mechanisms / ~scientifically~ conducted polls that told us clinton is a cinch to win also tell us what the X demographic wants and what trump is delivering and WE THEREFORE KNOW he's not doing what we know they want and blablabla.
asciilifeform: wot rating is the one scenario that most screamingly calls for attributable proclamation.
asciilifeform: which imho is the polar opposite of what a rating oughta be.
asciilifeform: in the sense of 'at some point, i heard that x heard...'
asciilifeform: it strikes me that this data has the status of 'gossip'
asciilifeform: nono, who ARE all of these folks who are not even l10 arsebot.
trinque took the entire old db
trinque: yeh, some ancient data in there regarding reference to key
ben_vulpes: in other "baby i'm trying to find something redeeming in the american holiday season"s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44mRRo0-P0&list=PLUSRfoOcUe4YfT3KjO5JInZ7owN_nIMh4&index=1
trinque: yeah seems SVG does pretty well in the browser
mircea_popescu: i like the olive color scheme too
trinque: we finally found the g spot
mircea_popescu: though i dun recall the exact link to it nao
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc we had a spec for sane log that went along the lines of separations like discussed
asciilifeform: imho sanity in trb logs would include not only timestamp but such things as non-mutilated tx ids (wtf, srsly, are these 1st N bytes, or last, or wat) but also separation of blockchainchurch and mempoolstate
ben_vulpes: anyways, that episode pointed me in the direction of external log mgmt
asciilifeform: iirc 'how to log' got caught up in the thread re whether trb wants to become own os or not
ben_vulpes: well dump svlogd in the bin of 'pointless abstractions that make life under the tyranny of linux mildly less painful and retarded' then
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well i put a redirect in there
mircea_popescu: my point is not that i could or couldn't fix it as much as it is i shouldn't have to. i also don't change diapers for the people i go out to dinner with, notwithstanding i ~could~.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how's that work ? it eats the original rubbish log, and shits this ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i know you already gave up on the thing, but i use svlogd to hammer poorly-logging proggies into sanity
mircea_popescu: which they disavow and so pretend it never happened so it's "free" ie unexplaiend income
asciilifeform: the mass of 'dissidenting', 'voice-of-america'-listening, pussyrioting idlers worldwide, live on what, do you suppose.
mircea_popescu: they get manna from in between my toes.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 17:15 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1573782 << didja miss the thread where we learned that apu2 is sad ?
mircea_popescu: as much as it sucks to be one of the progresstards in the us, imagine how very much worse all the random ngo-niggers and assorted aspirational retards from the rest of the world have it.
mircea_popescu: http://www.cjr.org/the_feature/trump_journalism_press_freedom_global.php << pretty lulzy as far as these go. priest at the outskirts of the byzantine empire going "bitchez, your golden horn palaces are still cooler than what we get down here in syria, so stfu and shake that ass".
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind, but whatever.
mircea_popescu: apparently there exists a german alive today sufficiently boneheaded to imagine anyone is willing to use a german company for any purpose.
asciilifeform: if anyone tells you of such a thing -- they will also sell bridge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't be arsed to spent time on it tbh. either it works out of box or doesn't work at all is the extent of my patience.
asciilifeform: i cannot fathom trying to use one of these as a comp
mircea_popescu: the exercise of today being a fine point in case - they can't even be used to play games, though they may marginalloy fit it, we'd be all in bed.
asciilifeform: or until you want the box not to drain the battery in 20 minutes of lid-closed-no-cord
mircea_popescu: course the fact that radeon had a stellar reputation for being an unworking buggy pos throughout the 90s didn't help
asciilifeform: and i can think of at least two explanations re why, and they may well both be true.
asciilifeform: interestingly, unlike nvidia, amd published (what were nominally..) complete datashits for all of their gpu.
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure it's due to the "driver" for radeon mobility 7500 being a dubious pos which is pretty much sabotaged deliberately.
asciilifeform: the ~only way to get it to work 100% is to define the box forever with the vendor's binturd.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i;m not dedicated enough to getting old games to run on that thinkpad to chase this further. i'll just use a different box.
mircea_popescu: sadly heroes suffers from the same problems of poker, can't play more than 2.
mircea_popescu: like we used to do in lieu of highschool, however many people sign up, then they're randomly paired and play small maps, then the winners randomly paired play mediums, then etc.
mircea_popescu: i wiped the logs, turned the program on, it killed my gfx, i logged into tty2, stopped x, restarted x, this was the only log present.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's pretty obvious someone magicnumbered something because i have the distinct impression gfx works fine just offscreen.
asciilifeform: no obvious barf in there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7hblX/?raw=true << and i fully don't expect you to tell me anything on the basis of it, because it's quite evident it contains nothing useful.
mircea_popescu: ie, not documented in the sense of documented ("here's how the fridge works") but documented in the sense of functional usage for illiterates ("here's how the fridge door opens and what happens most times when it does")
mircea_popescu: as much as his pcengine link is. the "how to run geth" level.
mircea_popescu: more and more it becomes evident that whenever something's documented by the open sores folk, it's always for a reason ; and the reason is always ^
asciilifeform: (or how they attached intel nic instead of realtek, for a wider range of magick-packet acceptance)
asciilifeform: (in the sense of 'you will never rip the nsa kernel out of running 24/7/365 on dedicated core on that box')
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-28#1573782 << didja miss the thread where we learned that apu2 is sad ?
mircea_popescu: WHY HAVE IT THEN
mircea_popescu: for the record, the repugnant pos trashes the box so thoroughly i have to log into tty and stop/start x
mircea_popescu: chiefly because i can't conceive of a mapping between the pile of trash and a log file.
mircea_popescu: oh holy shit Xorg.log has no timestamps for the lines. how the fuck is anyone supposed to make sense of this crap.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: these aspirational "intellectuals" are shockingly sterile.
mircea_popescu: they literally ran a bunch of sed, /holocaust/global warming/ /jews/racists/ whatever, same exact structure down to the t.
mircea_popescu: now how can you distinguish between this and http://trilema.com/2016/adnotated-weird/ ie david lane / whichever other of the idiots ?
mircea_popescu: the history of bestnesses. Make it say the old King and Queen are liars and villains but the Marquess is a truth-teller and a champion who has released the world from sorrow forever. Make it say she is the only one who can fix Fairyland and make it great."
mircea_popescu: look at it : "I shall tell you what the lion roared. It roared: you will make a new future in your stupid bowl, and it will say all the things we want it to say and none of the things we do not! The new future will say that everything good in Fairyland is down to us and everything that goes sideways is down to our enemies. It will say that we are the best people, with the best plans, and the best words, and the best rulers in
mircea_popescu: anyway, it is somewhat refreshing to see the delusional dorks (self-identified as "liberals" or "progressives" or w/e) simpyl lift wholesale the aggregate production of the neonazis since the 50s, change a few pronouns and bestseller-publish on their oh-so-important notebooks.
mircea_popescu: permanently disinterested me in entertaining the imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i did that when what's-his-name with the harry potter mary sue complex and delusions of computer science / quantum mechanics knowledge made some writing challenge and i fucked him with his own wrists attached to a telephone pole.
asciilifeform: wait till you get to 'the magic of no/
asciilifeform: i drank the whole spittoon.
mircea_popescu: for the love of all that is literate, can this fanfic wave of subtards gargling words END ALREADY
mircea_popescu: "If you have not guessed it already, this dear and daring beast was a Wyvern. A Wyverary, if we are to be taxonomically accurate, for though his mother was a proper Wyvern, his father was a library. That only sounds strange if both of your parents were precisely the same sort of animal, which hardly ever happens, when you really think about it." << holy shit HOW CAN THEY BE THIS TEDIOUS.
asciilifeform: there is not a secret, magical-wishy-way around this.
asciilifeform: second q is 'does kernel include megatonne of crapola, or, is it the opposite, boots only on some neckbeard's old 386 in his closet like bell labs plan9 )
asciilifeform: ( imho most interesting q -- is the thing ~self-hosting~ ? i.e. compiler binary + source, full toolchain, etc )
mircea_popescu: tis on the list.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 02:37 BingoBoingo: In other overlookeds the suckless people released an iso of their distro, 34 MB iso image http://sta.li/
mircea_popescu: wine is altogether better than windows.
asciilifeform: then again i've coaxed virii into running under wine.
mircea_popescu: yeah up to 1998. but the whole exercise was me showing that to young'uns
a111: Logged on 2016-11-28 06:21 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey listen, i have this t42 wich works fine EXCEPT if i try to emulate old games. at first i thought whatever, bad emulation package, but no - be it via dosbox, wine, whatever, same behavior : game works fine (sound, etc) but the screen stays black. seems to be some unhapiness somewhere between radeon mobility 7500 and xorg. do i recall you saying something very similar ? did you ever manage to get display sub
mircea_popescu: just like everything else "worked", just like how "liberalism" even became a thing. except it never was much more than the vague notions of life&everything of the friends tv show crew.
mircea_popescu: well, no, they're going to neigh york times best author selling publish some crap.
ben_vulpes: let's retroactively impeach obama for accepting the nobel without congress' blessing
ben_vulpes: what, the chinese are going to grant him a title?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes same way the f-35 works. next question ?
mats: what is it with white people and obsessing over other peoples dongs
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 16:03 mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone's keeping track, the "kow towing" must've not went all too well, because "the editorial board" of the nyt decided for the you know, "independents", "liberals" and the rest of the us red army that the correct approach is to try and impeach trump through the emoluments clause, sometime in 2018ish.
ben_vulpes: more lulz from linked rag: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/23/trumps-new-interview-with-the-new-york-times-isnt-reassuring-its-deeply-alarming/
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: phun phakt: they put up posters re 'run and hide' at the ~army base~ where asciilifeform worked , after news of the 'ft hood incident'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's going to be so unfair when the white working class is entirely satisfied with the recent championship pay-per-view outcome
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wait wait, trump was scamming the electorate ? not shillary & friends ? awww.
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> ...so they tweeted instructions to "Run Hide Fight"?! wtf is this, an advisory to do anything but jumping jacks?! << SOP, like "duck and cover" for nukes/tornados
mircea_popescu: wasn't he the guy with a worrisome wood fetish ?
mircea_popescu: mats kinda the wrong color with small dicks ?
ben_vulpes: mats: that's rich, coming from the local documentarian of besieged arabs
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder they even botyher burying the corpses, at all. the only focus of interest is what could fucking happen, and there's not so much a corpse could.
mircea_popescu: anyway, none of you understand how the world works. it isn't that anyone GOT shot. at all. nobody gives a shit what happens. it's that someone COULD HAVE!!!! that's the only fucking point.
mats: i thought i'd put a damper on the bloodlust
mats: alf is all about the high score charts
asciilifeform: then watch Official Truth try an' magic it away
asciilifeform: btw one interesting exercise would be to organize a synthetic 'postal' made entirely out of hacked twatter pnohes and similar boxes
mircea_popescu: mats in fairness, ohio state prolly best place to pop a cap in their collective mega-ass.
mircea_popescu still recalls a time in the 90s when it was 100k.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the lulz of all time is the actual count of books required. dipped as low as 100s at some point cca 2010 when i stopped paying any attention whatsoever.
hanbot: ...so they tweeted instructions to "Run Hide Fight"?! wtf is this, an advisory to do anything but jumping jacks?!
mats: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter << i'm experiencing rampage fatigue, this is what, the 300th rampage of the year to date
asciilifeform: iirc they teach this in spamatronics-101.
asciilifeform: ( the chick technically is 'best selling author', she is one of the many folx who pulled off the trick where you ask 1,001 arsebook 'friends' to buy b00k synchronously etc )
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema acceess log for this month is 1.2 gigabytes or about 6mn lines. this web thingee certainly came a long way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the momeny they lead with "X is a nyt bestselling author" you know it's going to be pretty far out there.
asciilifeform: http://www.catherynnemvalente.com/the-beasts-who-fought-for-fairyland << in other eldritch horrors.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey listen, i have this t42 wich works fine EXCEPT if i try to emulate old games. at first i thought whatever, bad emulation package, but no - be it via dosbox, wine, whatever, same behavior : game works fine (sound, etc) but the screen stays black. seems to be some unhapiness somewhere between radeon mobility 7500 and xorg. do i recall you saying something very similar ? did you ever manage to get display sub
Joshua-I: Alright back to the party. I'll see you cats later
Joshua-I: I do have some nice scotch I will top the night off with
BingoBoingo: Well, then drink more
Joshua-I: Just wanted to get the details
Joshua-I: Don't worry, I'll send it another time; I've been drinkin'
Joshua-I: When I've pgpd the message where do I send it?
mircea_popescu: ok the lemons one is pretty great
BingoBoingo: relatit http://oglaf.com/therack/
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski incidentally obsequious means pretty much the opposite of what you need it to mean
BingoBoingo: Well, what do they claim to be an expert on?
Joshua-I: Realized the answer as I hit enter
mircea_popescu: is this expert in the wot ?
Joshua-I: #2 closed the deal for me hah
Joshua-I: Catches helicopters on the fly I suppose
Joshua-I: Was thinking of an writing an article for qntra just wondering what the process for that is
BingoBoingo: Joshua-I: Stranger need to introduce themselve in channel before private conversations are possible
mircea_popescu: just make sure you talk to the girlies.
fd_travel: so there are teams trying to develop stuff using those APIs