ben_vulpes: yes?
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: i thought the vacation was already scheduled, hence the manic deadline pressure
ben_vulpes: gernika: megalol
ben_vulpes: "trick question: first they magic veggieburgers into existence to pretend like they ate something wholesome before desert."
ben_vulpes: "so you leave a hamplanet in a room with frosting, cornchips, guacamole, and cookies. which do they eat first?"
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes waits for the punchline
ben_vulpes: it's not like gavin's going to steal a march on you or anything
ben_vulpes: go take a vacation dood
ben_vulpes: emerge --ask =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
ben_vulpes: mod6: =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
ben_vulpes: oh yeah
ben_vulpes: v9999**
ben_vulpes: mod6: mine *does* verify the signature, but not in the build-bitcoin-v999o*.sh context
ben_vulpes: gernika: gpg version?
ben_vulpes: sure, no.
ben_vulpes: if asciilifeform hadn't already declared himself to not touch anything that brought anything down from the net he'd be complaining about all of the above as well
ben_vulpes: mod6: nobody's saying that buildroot should be v-verified, but that not isolating buildscripts from the user gpg keyring is...not great.
ben_vulpes: yeah the v-wrapping build scripts don't isolate themselves from the user keyring.
ben_vulpes: phf: you'll note that's more or less exactly what my v does
ben_vulpes: unless it's lying and it is verifying the signature anyways
ben_vulpes: mod6: because gpg says the signature isn't actually verified!
ben_vulpes: waitwait hang on
ben_vulpes: mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246638 << this has been a known issue since august 2015
ben_vulpes: (girl hands me child, i place child on floor, "you know precisely what i do when you hand him to me, you could just save us the fifteen seconds and put him on the floor yourself")
ben_vulpes: and not just a 'you' and a very sleep deprived and useless me?
ben_vulpes: mod6: are you even certain there was a 'we' running this a few weeks ago?
ben_vulpes: "what verification error?!:
ben_vulpes: mine sailed through merrily
ben_vulpes: gernika does your script go so far as to exit at that point?!
ben_vulpes: just snarking phf
ben_vulpes: so does that mean no parenscript? :P
ben_vulpes: i appreciate boring
ben_vulpes: how are you shipping to this thing? hacking directly on the running lisp image?
ben_vulpes: nifty phf
ben_vulpes: ah jesus fuck javascript
ben_vulpes: ah yeah change
ben_vulpes: or would that be horrendously dumb
ben_vulpes: can has submit onSelect ?
ben_vulpes: much better
ben_vulpes: does not work when tabbing to the dropdown and hitting the spacebar
ben_vulpes: oh interesting
ben_vulpes: but when i click the dropdown some js takes over and doesn't let me select anything
ben_vulpes: phf: btcbase keeps getting niftier
ben_vulpes: that sweet song of "clean socks for you! clean shirts for you!"
ben_vulpes: but aha i do recall that mjr and pgp were in the same room a few times
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol no i do not
ben_vulpes: phf: no, pgp.
ben_vulpes: dag
ben_vulpes: "Phil Potter \n Chief Strategy Officer \n Bitfinex"
ben_vulpes: wow and world trade financial group is no longer even a thing
ben_vulpes: ahaha phil went derp?
ben_vulpes: how this came to be i do not know
ben_vulpes: jurov: yes, this script uses the user keyring
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 b-b-...5.sh works fine on something approaching a sane computer
ben_vulpes: i think that i understand the windows comment now
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: old habits do die hard.
ben_vulpes: strictly a release tool for the free world, then.
ben_vulpes: i'm still trying to cook up a syllogism over here
ben_vulpes: thanks mod6, no need to kill yourself driving at 90mph
ben_vulpes: i am not well versed enough in the history of gcc and llvm to understand this.
ben_vulpes: 'code monkey' excuse me
ben_vulpes: the turning of a compiler which should simply ingest code and shit elfs into a developer-centric tool?
ben_vulpes fully adrift now, without even a sun to tell east from west
ben_vulpes: i should simply expect misery from you every time i bring up the topic of how a v might work then?
ben_vulpes is hit by a particularly unpleasant revelatory wave
ben_vulpes: so bear with me: how is 'v' not groupthink incarnate?
ben_vulpes: from 'how the wot is attacked'?
ben_vulpes: try like i'm five, the windows comparison is shorting me out
ben_vulpes: how is this "user's script" not precisely the windows release?
ben_vulpes: there is the "bitcoin as these gentlemen"
ben_vulpes: you will get a release patch and you will press to it. there is your hammer.
ben_vulpes: *i* want to press specified patch sets without doing so by hand.
ben_vulpes: perhaps i am laboring under the misapprehension that v should be useful for something other than putting software on mircea_popescu's box
ben_vulpes: you - want to sink nails. i want to pull them out occasionally.
ben_vulpes: unless you expect it to be only and ever a release tool and not a tool for people actually working on the thing to use in their workflow.
ben_vulpes: what you and i need from V diverge.
ben_vulpes: then press to a release patch, fin.
ben_vulpes: what one might say to a V implementation.
ben_vulpes: did i say that you did?!
ben_vulpes: "i want everything necessary for malleus and db locks"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not a list of patches a list of *leaves*
ben_vulpes: and yes, things are getting faster.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only if "actual test cycles" only means "#b-a test cycles"
ben_vulpes: mod6: testing cycle in #b-a is slow as sin
ben_vulpes: mod6: see the rest of the thread. provide an explicit list of leaves to press.
ben_vulpes: mod6: well you're not trying to mount a fs from a mac into a gentoo vm i don't think
ben_vulpes: blows up on the .gitignore which iirc is an empty file
ben_vulpes: i suspect it has to do with mounting a filesystem into a vm
ben_vulpes: mod6: i don't think the file hashing mismatch is worth digging into
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://45.media.tumblr.com/d94a622dacfd972d5214c5bc590c8d46/tumblr_nnwbfyaOd41tpspkgo1_500.gif
ben_vulpes: and that i suspect gpg means to convey that it is not actually checking the sig.
ben_vulpes: no, just that i keep seeing that error.
ben_vulpes: just dumb shit mod6
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no i did not go into each idiocy in depth
ben_vulpes: AUGH
ben_vulpes: STATE
ben_vulpes: that's right, that part of the build scripts runs with the user gpg keychain
ben_vulpes: and yes i have it in my keychain
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'd expect an entirely different error should that have been the case
ben_vulpes: going to have fun running that the fuck down.
ben_vulpes throws up hands in disgust
ben_vulpes: previous hash mismatches appear to be something wacky with this gentoo vm on my macbook
ben_vulpes: mod6: i am *still* getting this with build-bitcoin-v99995.sh: gpg: WARNING: not a detached signature; file 'buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz' was NOT verified!
ben_vulpes: also murdered my terminal session
ben_vulpes: mod6: script does not work for me, complains about mismatched hashes
ben_vulpes: french toast is what shall be delivered, bbl
ben_vulpes: savagery lol
ben_vulpes: mod6: didja run off?
ben_vulpes: ugh mod6 does this thing actually kill my terminal session when it dies?
ben_vulpes: press an explicit set of leaves?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ok ok
ben_vulpes: ah shit that has no descendents?
ben_vulpes: explain the use of parallel leaves?
ben_vulpes: one thing and one thing only.
ben_vulpes: i have always said this.
ben_vulpes: pressing to a head should simply recurse to the root of that head
ben_vulpes: phf: i tried for a very long time with erc in a seperate emacs instance running on a server as a bouncer, and the *constant* muscle memory confusion over the subtle differences between emacs-in-terminal and emacs-with-gui drove me up a wall
ben_vulpes: smpt SASL << wut
ben_vulpes: very distracting when it comes to getting work done.
ben_vulpes: phf: i actually don't want irc in emacs
ben_vulpes: phf: no bullllyyyyyy
ben_vulpes: i can close xcode
ben_vulpes: it's the weekend
ben_vulpes: oh thank god
ben_vulpes: man fuck weechat's half-assed implementation of emacs/readline input controls
ben_vulpes: mod6: i was actually looking for tha
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: process tech at least can hold out hope they'll move into mgmt if they go to night school and get that b.s.
ben_vulpes: and then there's the economic differences: barista can dream of what -- going on tour? owning their own coffee shop? writing a best selling memoir about...running a coffee shop and going on tour?
ben_vulpes: we were making probes
ben_vulpes: but perhaps i only ever worked in environments of rarefied tech capabilities
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about attention to detail, understanding wtf is happening, why the suit is a necessary thing, why the sticky pads at each door...
ben_vulpes: i'm not even talking about the incubating
ben_vulpes: "what it takes 6 months to train a barista from nothing, and 6 months to make a useful process tech!"
ben_vulpes: subject of meat labor, i was slamming the 27-year old baristas some staffer was browsing on tinder last night and someone made the hilarious comment that bunnies are just as hot-swappable as baristas
ben_vulpes: masks and shots were never terribly affected by moore's law itself
ben_vulpes: simulate a whole computer, shock, awe
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/letters-from-the-stupid-country/ << your girls?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: neat
ben_vulpes: better than biodiesel!
ben_vulpes: expectations stemmed from previous topic
ben_vulpes: mnope
ben_vulpes was not expecting that from phf
ben_vulpes: shinohai: too many windows
ben_vulpes: such from us institutions now an actual liability on resumes
ben_vulpes: similar to the college degree thing
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: typical usian cow is more enchained by thinking it's necessary to have a car than a better person for having one
ben_vulpes: no, any good?
ben_vulpes: they don't educate impoverished usians either!
ben_vulpes: trick question, just go steal one
ben_vulpes: http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=274052&d=1425648934&thumb=1 << another assault van
ben_vulpes: they don't educate gypsies about anything
ben_vulpes: no i do not
ben_vulpes: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eufFSpXNfQs/maxresdefault.jpg << assault caravan
ben_vulpes: http://only-carz.com/data_images/gallery/02/gmc-camper-van/gmc-camper-van-08.jpg << DOPE
ben_vulpes: fertility, huh? how'd you go about selecting for that mircea_popescu ?
ben_vulpes: phf: right, exactly
ben_vulpes: i've just come to terms with the inevitable future
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you see me laughing?
ben_vulpes: with a whole brood of thieving children to live off
ben_vulpes: poor and happy
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu gets it
ben_vulpes: phf: pretty much the plan
ben_vulpes: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e6/f8/bf/e6f8bfe5c716f905bcae70457a616bee.jpg << maybe
ben_vulpes: mod6: i mean caravan figuratively
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: because i can't stand many others?
ben_vulpes: live as an itinerant website mender
ben_vulpes: get a caravan
ben_vulpes: dun get me wrong imma get a whole litter here sooner or later
ben_vulpes: mod6: not me, caz
ben_vulpes: adding one
ben_vulpes: about to have 2 kids actually
ben_vulpes: but it'd be a starting place.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lossily
ben_vulpes: imagine logs as forum threads, where a link to a previous log line bumps the whole thread
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson a robust thread-tracker would be very nice.
ben_vulpes: my inner thieving gypsy recoils violently against the notion of working someone else's chumpatron
ben_vulpes: cassino volunteering?
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: holy shit the odds on that bet
ben_vulpes: DONNY T TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNNNNNNND
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1408995 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409002 << omfg am i really the only one who saw this?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1408981 << why precisely do you think i've been making such a stink about vtrons lately?!
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/31SYN3T.txt << i love these devil-may-care statements
ben_vulpes: and cunts, mircea_popescu would say
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2016#1409024 << boss you're repeating yourself
ben_vulpes: adlai: at this rate you'll never get that hostmask
ben_vulpes: I COVER DESKS IN POST IT NOTES
ben_vulpes: BEHOLD I AM CHIEF CULTURE OFFICER
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you just don't understand how the world works
ben_vulpes: DUH
ben_vulpes: sometime when you weren't around
ben_vulpes: bye bye bb
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: http://i.imgur.com/Mz2GqWY.jpg
ben_vulpes: the ink black is somewhat more light absorbent than the paper black
ben_vulpes: today i cover staff desks in black post it notes with pentagrams drawn on them
ben_vulpes: want to scrawl on black post its in black ink with me?
ben_vulpes: nice to see you again tho
ben_vulpes: ancient trope adlai
ben_vulpes: latest useless office equipment acquisition: BLACK POST IT NOTES
ben_vulpes looking forward to new and exciting bouncer failure modes
ben_vulpes: ohai
ben_vulpes: to be fair quite a few looked to be my fault for using old vdiff versions and other inane pebkacs
ben_vulpes: i have been poking holes in poor mod6's v implementation for days now
ben_vulpes: also, did symbolics make an awesome spreadsheet editor?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm just going to skip over all the rutalk
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: repeat
ben_vulpes: centrifuge next derp
ben_vulpes: burn for electricity
ben_vulpes: pipe liquid into biodiesel reactor
ben_vulpes: reduce to liquid
ben_vulpes: drop enemies into centrifuge
ben_vulpes: carbonate my foes
ben_vulpes: chain me to sleep
ben_vulpes: wrap me in blocks
ben_vulpes: wut
ben_vulpes: > suit
ben_vulpes: > blockchain suit
ben_vulpes: but omg pulls from net
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/test-builds/v0.5.4/amd64/bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST2.tar.gz << unzip, ./build_bitcoin.sh, make tea
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: yandere?
ben_vulpes: punkman: pretty hilarious
ben_vulpes: punkman: jpost bit is plarious
ben_vulpes: lol who said that
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: he was never actually even in their wot as far as i can tell
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: *buried* on hn apparently
ben_vulpes: best of best is to live in incuntsequential hipster holes
ben_vulpes: well that was a miserable idea
ben_vulpes: I'M CARBONATING WINE
ben_vulpes: STAND BACK
ben_vulpes: front running, primarily
ben_vulpes: before i confirm your work, please tell me how you determined that these were all unused?
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: i *will* however read through several hundred lines of deletion
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: this is why tab aligned shit in code is the devil
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/commit/e2edf81271e1a7dd148aa7386b730ae2838c2860#diff-b2301b53c4e2272d63fb6047c851c925L82
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/iran-oil-embargo-first-tankers-depart-for-europe-since-sanctions-ended/ << suezmax full of oil leaves iran headed for eu somewhere
ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/martinshkreli/status/698750951889506305 << blowjobs and lolz
ben_vulpes: happy valentines day and many blowjobs to all!
ben_vulpes: good auld-gean stables
ben_vulpes: don't take me too seriously this morning mod6 i got dressed and went to the office before realizing it was still sunday
ben_vulpes: the structure, not the contents. 'fork bomb' was a joke, mod6.
ben_vulpes: well at least it's not a fork bomb?
ben_vulpes: ideally a v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like and barfs on anything that doesn't look like that instead of trying to catch all of the edge cases