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asciilifeform: 4 jan. 2017 : ' Multiple vulnerabilities in the NVIDIA Windows GPU Display Driver kernel mode layer (nvlddmkm.sys) handler for DxgDdiEscape and a vulnerability in the Linux GPU Display Driver kernel mode layer (nvidia.ko)'
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 00:44 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well gotta keep the record of excellence in the log so we can point gabriel to a minimum viable residence
phf: (this is totally unrelated, i just don't feel one way or another about subj. when i was in my early twenties i also adopted mannerisms. i agree though, is not becoming of ~adult~)
asciilifeform: starting from the most nonsensical (e.g. inability to use a can opener)
asciilifeform: always reminds me of this gurl (undergrad) who REALLYWANTED!111 to be a GreatMathematician and decided to... copy the quirks, nervous ticks, of paul erdos. as described in the biography.
mircea_popescu: now this said, more in the general he does have a tedious self-promoting tone. i expect it's scar tissue from years spent in us corps, among idiots disinclined to naturally bow to their betters.
mircea_popescu: just, he doesn't know how to speak, because not educated [in this field] and consequently trades the offending of the many for the offending of the few. obviously a bad deal.
mircea_popescu: but the piece says "dumbass does NOT have a say in how her daughter is used."
asciilifeform: this is not obvious from the linked piece.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 13:58 asciilifeform: y begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about what it means to be a blogger[7] . These essays and this writing style are tempting to people outside the subculture at hand because of their engaging personal tone and idiosyncratic, insider's view. But after a whi
asciilifeform: 'It took me a while to overcome my disgust –I am still not fully familiar with the way non-risk takers work; they actually don’t realize that others are not like them, what makes people in the real world tick. No, businessmen as risk takers are not subjected to the judgment of other businessmen, only that of their personal accountant –unless they are peons in a hierarchy...' << ftr this is the allergen that gives asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: lol "same neuroanatomical substrate". nobody knows anything anymore do they. "cpu and beach are made of the same granularoabrasive substrate so there may be a secret place to plug in every beach. more non-invasive searching for the beach power cord is in order."
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'll save that story for another time. it's a gooder.
asciilifeform: betcha it's another 'banned in eu pederastylands' item
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: eh theory prolly wasn't unique to byron anyways. greeks likely had it.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski et al : where is the auto that still has rubber bumper ?
ben_vulpes: the memory fabricator is in full swing over here. wants to say that it was a tome that fell out of a moldbug piece but i really have nfi.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that conclusion only lives here, ie. between the lines.
ben_vulpes: the one, but that's probably not right.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: and somehow the conclusion that "most humans are barely over the cognitive threshold of a farm animal" never presents itself
ben_vulpes: i can't remember who it was (byron? meep, no clue), but held that "before long, they'll be wanting rights for cats and dogs, cows and hogs"
pete_dushenski: "In particular, the avian forebrain (the part of the brain involved in problem-solving and other higher-order cognitive capacities) is actually derived from the same neuroanatomical substrate as the mammalian forebrain, providing more potential evidence for similar cognitive capacities in the two groups (Jarvis et al. 2005)." << see ? just like you and me.
ben_vulpes: animal rights has been the funniest joke about progressivism since before women were even up for the franchise
pete_dushenski: "My overall conclusion is that chickens are just as cognitively, emotionally and socially complex as most other birds and mammals in many areas, and that there is a need for further noninvasive comparative behavioral research with chickens as well as a re-framing of current views about their intelligence."
pete_dushenski: inb4 'birdbrain' becomes a compliment in the 4th reich
pete_dushenski: speaking of snowflakes, if every herpaderp is a citizen and a qualified human being right out the womb, it's about time that chickens get the vote too. they're bright enough! http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10071-016-1064-4
BingoBoingo: pics coming after sobertime. This was the teaser.
BingoBoingo: In other news, adventures in furniture making have begun. Bookshelf started and completed in ~2.5 hours. 47" tall 23" shelves, plantation raised monterey pine, held with 2-1/2" construction screws.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you could surely get a deal on a dirty, beat-to-shit g-wagen. from what i hear they're not cheap to maintain
pete_dushenski: there's that.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well gotta keep the record of excellence in the log so we can point gabriel to a minimum viable residence
mircea_popescu: no it's really good, he mounted blades on it, can now mow the sidewalk
BingoBoingo: Unless they split or tear
BingoBoingo: Anyways bad winter weather demands Saturn plasticar. Body panels self undent!
ben_vulpes: mid-nineties suburbans are more my style. the 3/4 ton body...
mircea_popescu: "i want to buy a c classe from a real used up hooker with real cum stains on the interior"
mircea_popescu: eh i dun wanna type over the wire for one thing
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so basically emacs telnets into the server or wut ?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what i really want is a transmission that directs all power to the spinning wheel. it's spinning, that's how you know it's the one that needs the power!
pete_dushenski: 'saddam' my 27yo merc WITH LOCKING DIFF will be taking over dd duty, despite having a much shitter heater, until the roads are cleaned up.
pete_dushenski: it's goddam inexcusable. i think 'progress' is the going claim for open diff v rear locking diff
ben_vulpes: "fuel economy" is the argument, right?
pete_dushenski: the beeping only comes on when tc is REALLY going hard, but flashing dash light flickers with the mildest invocation
pete_dushenski: whoever the fuck thought that an open rear diff could be compensated for by electronic nagging should spend the rest of their lives in noyabrsk
mircea_popescu: you and the other jew.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: glad you liked the piece! always happy to elucidate the strange in the four-wheeled world. but what's the 'c*' thing ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: nothing speshul about the chart. just centre-aligned, single-spaced(shift-enter), and used the 'special character' directional arrows. bout it.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, as part of a vast "argentina night life" programme, these nuts banned alcohol on the beaches, and are going around making kids open up their bags and shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 19:52 adlai: sure, that's one of the methods. this was in response to dude complaining that alphabets know who is, eg, studying up towards mass-production of HNIW; the precise response was roughly "be more schizo"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-29 18:38 mircea_popescu: much like if a boy's mating strategy consists of seeking out the places where no other boys go and waiting for girls to straggle in.
adlai: it's just one example. some knowledge is too specialized to appear in general aggregations; and it's also way too easy to estimate who is germinating which ideologies if you have access to eg which news they read. anyway, i'm supposed to be prepping for my lab tomorrow... this is the fun one, where we dick around measuring boring stuff but end up with ice cream
adlai: sure, that's one of the methods. this was in response to dude complaining that alphabets know who is, eg, studying up towards mass-production of HNIW; the precise response was roughly "be more schizo"
ben_vulpes: pollute the ingestion pipeline
ben_vulpes: why not just use other people's accounts, adlai ?
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599879 << despite hating this word (as a medical term, it's about as precise as "caught a cold"), i did use it today for the first time in a while: "technological schizophrenia" is the theory and practice of compartmentalizing/dissociating net use across multiple devices and connections to defeat the whole "google knows she's preggo before she does"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 08:02 ben_vulpes: i don't know what sort of apology is due here as clearly nobody has ever even tried to apply those patches through a strict v, but i'm still going to go slam my head in a door until i get some of the stupid out
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599317 << actually btcbase is broken in that respect. i keep filename from the first appearance, and then track hunk relationship through hashes only. which will break if there's hash collision
ben_vulpes: demo of the integrated lisp development environment if you will
ben_vulpes: fwiw i have a spiffy little minimal interactive lisp bot you can diddle the behavior of in toto from emacs
mircea_popescu: vps from my machine, my machine from vps, both of these from random internet soup. not to a standard higher than "post wwwform"
ben_vulpes: and from external attackers? or to secure your box from whatever strange is on the vps?
ben_vulpes: which "the connection"? from your machine to the bot machine?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the way i liked the original "send urls" was because then other people can see wtf.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, threat model. this is happening over the internet no ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 14:48 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599692 << i'm not against it, but how do you handle the connection with some semblance of security ?
mircea_popescu: there's nothing substantially different from sidewalk puddles yo.
asciilifeform: illustration where nutter dies for a muddy puddle on the sidewalk is not very illustrative imho of anything interesting, other than possibly psychiatric case
Framedragger: in retrospect, it was possibly the most horrible illustration eva.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:40 Framedragger: yes, there is that model of a woman as someone who is expected to, and is bound to adapt in my mind, too. if she runs away from a dangerous bank robbery scene, it's to be expected. ties into the 'protecting children' function, too. unless she *explicitly* is a heroine.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599723 << there is also a confounding set here: even supposing that you are an expert cut-throat, or whichever: why the fuck should you -- unpaid! -- die for ~a bank~ ?
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mircea_popescu: and then we can revisit
mircea_popescu: ah then that's why. so check out true romance (the tarantino cut plox) when you wanna watch something, totally worth it.
mircea_popescu: is the guy being a moron ? (have you seen the film ?)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599746 << yes, but you're civilised. consider one of the better depictions of the matter : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo
mircea_popescu: it's not altogether clear computizing has to be a sewer. but yes, for as long as one's stuck dealing with a large pile of broken solutions churned out by people who didn't understand the problem nor were aware of the fact...
asciilifeform: asking for mircea_popescu-style 'sane' programmer is rather like to ask for hygienic sewer repairman. if such a thing is possible it consists of cosmonautic-grade compartment sealing.
mircea_popescu: they said the same about romatic love!
mircea_popescu: "human happiness can not be a goal of policy, because the direct solution is also the correct one."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman similarily, the life of the sane programmer is pretty unhappy. by comparison, java-machining-dotnet-etcetera dorks are very fucking happy, going from conference to conference to tell each other how fucking delicious the catered rubber chicken is, and how the 3 bedroom 1 bathroom atrocity is totally worth 1.3mn
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/yet-another-bitcoin-anniversary/ << Qntra - Yet Another Bitcoin Anniversary
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't mean "unhappy" in the 1850s manchester bereft-of-any-joy sense.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but if he also speaks to you the usual contrition of the sinful is overpowering.
diana_coman: it's not other guy, it's the master; to my mind the master was exactly the chosen god basically
mircea_popescu: follows from the personalization of the relationship to the divine. it's one thing to not manage to imitate the flight of the dragonfly, as michelangelo tried (and yes science is a reinterpretation of the relationship to the divine, doh, what else). it's another to not manage to do what the other guy tells you to.
mircea_popescu: not exactly. there is some vanity in there, now and again, but the substance is just a sort of perfectionism.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it sounds to me that their unhappiness comes from their own expectation that they are so very best, not from their master's expectations really; if it were from those, then *all* slavegirls would be just as unhappy
mircea_popescu: this then follows in general, the average chump being a sort of windowsy emulation of a slavegirl, and without a master. so ends up reading feedback from /dev/urandom and interpreting it through a similar 50-50 => 1-99 grille.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 10:18 diana_coman: well, I don't really think someone can live a very unhappy life due to *others'* expectations; at most due to his/her own
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599739 << slavegirls can and do live a pretty unhappy life because of master's expectations. this ironically happens the most with the best of 'em, because they tend to be very deaf to praise and very acutely tuned to reprimand.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599736 << and on reddit it's hard for a man to not be an idiot. and if you go swimming in the swamp it'll be hard to not be all muddy etcetera. butofcoars!
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: maybe not interesting cause story always ends with some disgruntled employee running off on the plug with the keys
mircea_popescu: "and will you disarm at the end of the fight ?" AHAHAHA NO!
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this is elementarily true, but not especially interesting
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 10:09 diana_coman: Framedragger, there is sex and there is gender; in other words, an individual woman can be more of a man than a specific, given man and the other way around;
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599727 << i'm with her. a woman may be assumed to be cowardly, and a black man may be assumed to be a thief, and an asian guy may be assumed to have a small dick, and if that works for you all the better. but it dun work in general, i don't think, nor in my experience. all children are born cowardly, all modern society tends to encourage it, the few who get out of infantilism aren't very gen
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Coinkite factory holds the keys, so you own that factory you own Coinkite as a whole.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-29 15:27 asciilifeform: vintage lulz ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542468 ) continued! >> http://blog.opendime.com/post/155026798632/announcing-opendime-v2-now-genuine-verified << 'we’ve added a special security chip, the sole purpose of which is to defeat any attempt at building counterfeit or cloned Opendime'
mircea_popescu: it's the inept children flailing AS IF they were women that get the inept child's lot, ie scorn.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it was in the logs
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:51 Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: they fucking upgraded open dime specs as soon as mine arrived. so I sold it to some derpy trader.
mircea_popescu: they prolly imported a shitmodem
asciilifeform: did cryptoAG generate them modz for'em or wat.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:37 ben_vulpes: best i have is that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting to the last breath
mircea_popescu: if two girls that are close but the sexual bubble between them's not popped and they run into this guy at a party who looks kinda cool and interests them because maybe he's gonna do it but then he wants them to kiss this other guy they may just pretend to be going to do it to see if he stops them.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well then this isn't a proper measure. woman playing coy != woman being coward.
Framedragger: but the side effect was my first ever threesome, so.
Framedragger: aha. yeah you're right. this reminds me of when i made plans to sorta-jumpscare a guy by him being kissed by two girls, and the girls were all bravelike and c0mmitt3d until the moment came.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:36 Framedragger: or more precisely, have there been no instances of such?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599718 << are you kidding me, just look around. cowardice and periods are the biological female legacy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599715 << what are you talking about, there's plenty of cowardly women.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:32 ben_vulpes: heh which reminds me: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20170101/attachment.txt?sha1=054f90b71ea58b51b3dd37774b495d5f7e85afee << zero income foundation carries on the zero asset legacy :P
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599714 << i expect a coupla years of 0 expenditure drove the eventual 0 income
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599620 << bru hempcrete literally decarbonizes the atmosfear!
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:59 phf: Framedragger: it's always the same with you, "this online personality construct is great" "they do useful research" etc. until they publish "i don't believe in pgp" or really act in any way that you didn't expect. and then you don't have any recourse, because they are online personality constructs. how well do you know this "online researcher" if you ~having spent significant amount of effort to collect and upload ssh keys~ didn't even
mircea_popescu: no but it is. trust is the building block of both culture and civilisation, the ideal and real aspects of human society. reasoned trust (see phf's notion of recourse, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592296 etc) builds republics and unreasoned trust builds empires.
Framedragger: sure. and that's the best one can have for the time being, and, *given trust*, it works nicely (dare i say, in a community-like aspect). and trust is unavoidable anyway and maybe the best instrument for civilisation. (also, need coffee)
mircea_popescu: and why kids ask "why" universally across time, space and culture ; and why idiots answer "because that's the way it is" out of fucking line.
mircea_popescu: what you've both done is - summarized a familiar topic for the benefit for foreigners.
mircea_popescu: because no, the difference between pete explaining in summary how the fuck cars got fucked and you giving the keys to working wp to taleb is not substantial.
mircea_popescu: until and unless, we're stuck doing the communion favour for each other, whereby the hope is that someone in the republic will be capable to summarize something you don't understand ; and you can trust he's not fucking you over in so doing.
mircea_popescu: theoretical fixes only work in theory.
mircea_popescu: hey, i dream the same. but the truth is, until there's enough critical mass of those "another persons", there's no good way to fix anything.
Framedragger: gotcha. (and agree). i still dream of easily-reproducible systems, though. but one way to abstract away the idiosyncrasies (of say wordpress) is exactly what you said: another person.
mircea_popescu: this is how a mother acts, and why kids have not much business with her past the age of about 10 or so, depending how retarded they are.
mircea_popescu: it is contemptible and beyond contemptible to rely on his ignorance, disinterest AND COWARDICE to get him on a windowsesque thing which "works", and provided he's willing to adapt what he wants done to what the butons say, all will be well.
mircea_popescu: this is how a father acts.
mircea_popescu: it is admirable to compensate for his ignorance or disinterest, to the perhaps extreme level of doing the hardware, and the os, and the http server and the php on top of it yourself, if you like the guy enough. more power to you. but it is still something of his, which even if delegated he still owns.
mircea_popescu: THIS is the important thing, and the only thing that matters ; and this is the fundamental reason we hate, equally, and forever, medium, blogspot, whatever the fuck. "convenience" my right foot. it's never convenient to be stupid, and it is absolutely never convenient to be locked into being stupid.
mircea_popescu: ng the linux install, or the linux kernel, or in terms of vlsi and baking his own hardware.
mircea_popescu: and before anyone asks : the advantage of this is that this solution scales. ACTUALLY scales. specifically, if at any point in his own time and for any reason in ~his own domain~ taleb wants to get more control, he can. he actually can. you explain to him, when he asks, HOW to be more in control of his mp-wp install. in terms of configuring the php script, or in terms of configuring the apache server, or in terms of configuri
mircea_popescu: explain how to make backups (even if it's a dump-db-encrypted-to-key script you throw together) and that's it.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:23 Framedragger: (just complained to taleb about him using medium. this whole "scrape article right after it's published because the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on the small off chance that he replies with a request for a suggestion to be considered, i wonder if there's anything to actually be suggested. need to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..)
mircea_popescu: persuasive retelling of history falls right in the spot.
mircea_popescu: dude this piece is beautiful. tyvm pete_dushenski no further than yest sitting with girls on sidewalk cafe we were wondering at abominable item, and then discovered it was... WV!!!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski palate. the bony skull part above your tongue, where supposedly (the belle epoque frenchies thought) elevated tasting takes place.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599699 << there's a c* blog/ing competition underway isn't there.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 06:21 ben_vulpes: i think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599692 << i'm not against it, but how do you handle the connection with some semblance of security ?
mircea_popescu: yes. this is EXACTLY what they expect.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:51 Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599724 << who is expected to protect these "good sensitive men" that run away? the men that are in fact men?
mircea_popescu: hence all the "gotta educate the public". their process of "education" consists of taking healthy youths and spitting out useless drones. now if only this process could be extended to anything other than placid, cowardly middle class youth, the world would suddenly be habitable for the usg!
mircea_popescu: (or, in the imperial expression, "putin doesn't understand how the world works".)
mircea_popescu: the usg is veheheheeery fragile.
mircea_popescu: which is how hillary ended up visiting 1mn strong towns in the sense of speaking to fifty ditzy cunts nobody could be bothered to ever fuck in a basement library somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and for the "we all agree" (that "sexual harassment is a thing" or "words hurt" or whatever other nonsense du jour) engine to work, the strict requirement is for "everyone" to be entirely a set of usg drones. it's not even enough to pad theroom, it must be filled.
mircea_popescu: in any case the usg "tax code" or "legal code" or any other pile of usg-specific idiocy is NOT a schelling point.
mircea_popescu: which is why ustardia requires all the ideological fanfare. outside of getting people to blindly believe they matter, somehow, no matter how, there's simply no way.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:45 ben_vulpes: this is perhaps the one instance in the history of the world where the software schelling point might actually migrate /away/ from complexity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599676 << for the record, there isn't a case in history YET where schelling point was anything than against complexity.
mircea_popescu: i didn't specifically separate it here, but that's where the 3 guess comes from.
mircea_popescu: that's a real threat model, because of how bitcoin works chain differentials are real leverage in the hands of enemy.
mircea_popescu: the reason you want them in succession is that single blocks will definitely get orphaned, but longer chains present a risk for miners if they opt not to build on them.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:53 davout: and i'm really not sure the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 09:40 Framedragger: yes, there is that model of a woman as someone who is expected to, and is bound to adapt in my mind, too. if she runs away from a dangerous bank robbery scene, it's to be expected. ties into the 'protecting children' function, too. unless she *explicitly* is a heroine.
Framedragger: diana_coman: i see what you mean. at the end of the day if one cannot carve out existence on their own terms, they are doomed either way - this much i agree with. (also, i didn't really have a fleshed out point, thanks for clarifying things for me)
diana_coman: well, I don't really think someone can live a very unhappy life due to *others'* expectations; at most due to his/her own
Framedragger: well, that's the problem and object of possible critique here. i suppose it's quite subjective and really hard to defend. my hope was that someone may relate and define this more rigorously
diana_coman: how do you decide on "unnecessarily" there?
diana_coman: appy gay people.) <- this suggested the difference was not clear to you
diana_coman: Framedragger> (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unh
Framedragger: there are the prevalent 'expected defaults', tho.
Framedragger: no disagreement there (did my statements imply or assume otherwise?) :)
diana_coman: Framedragger, there is sex and there is gender; in other words, an individual woman can be more of a man than a specific, given man and the other way around;
Framedragger: (that being said, and probably much against the aggregated views of this here forum, i don't really like this model. if 'emancipation of women' makes your gut wrench, consider that most men fail at fulfilling their model expectations. in .lt (where masculine models are very much in place), there are plenty of good, sensitive men who live very unhappy lives due to 'expectations'. this of course includes lots of unhappy gay people.)
Framedragger: yes, there is that model of a woman as someone who is expected to, and is bound to adapt in my mind, too. if she runs away from a dangerous bank robbery scene, it's to be expected. ties into the 'protecting children' function, too. unless she *explicitly* is a heroine.
ben_vulpes: best i have is that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting to the last breath
Framedragger: right. and yes i agree, seems to be the case.
Framedragger: or more precisely, have there been no instances of such?
Framedragger: hm, isn't that because of gender role legacy, with "man taking the burden" and all that? i'm sure this oversimplifies things - it's an interesting thought
ben_vulpes: heh which reminds me: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20170101/attachment.txt?sha1=054f90b71ea58b51b3dd37774b495d5f7e85afee << zero income foundation carries on the zero asset legacy :P
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: your bot is ready, i'll be online sometime after 2200 utc to hash out the details of getting your code into it.
ben_vulpes: a man's work stands on its own, for everyone else there are marketing departments standing by to contribute to revenues.
Framedragger: vanilla wp may work, yes... i hear some folx use medium because it offers "exposure". i wonder if there's anything to it (probably not). i guess you see popular articles when you go to medium.com, or something..
Framedragger: (just complained to taleb about him using medium. this whole "scrape article right after it's published because the unicorn it's riding on may go really go down soon" is a bit stupid. on the small off chance that he replies with a request for a suggestion to be considered, i wonder if there's anything to actually be suggested. need to search for a bit (i'm certain he wouldn't fuck around with mp-wp unfortunately)..)
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/09/finding-the-light/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Finding the light.
ben_vulpes: it might not be so bad at that, there's one command to compile, and a single keypress to abort a failed compilation. ofc, you'll have to either edit directly in emacs (strongly recommended for parens-balancing reasons) or edit the file in something else of your choice (not recommended because no parens balancing) and then loading the file in a persistent lisp session in tmux or whatever
ben_vulpes: i think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:04 mircea_popescu: ah. the way i was thinking this'd work would be : the bot answers to any lines where its name is mentioned ; and i can update its "brain" with a !^ url style command. whereby it replaces its "ai" code with the content of the file.
davout: either way, I entirely agree that the scripting thing is cancerous
davout: and i'm really not sure the necessary prevouts wouldn't be rejected as 'attack-preparation' by random miners
davout: you just need to have the outs at hand
davout: mircea_popescu: not sure the blocks need to be mined in succession
mircea_popescu: "i know, let's put a fucking forth parser into the consensus system, that'll be so fucken smart!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, that aside, fixing this in trb may be worth the doing. though in my mind it was slated for when we actually do trb-i, to be shot in head with the whole "script" idiocy.
mircea_popescu: needs to mine about 3 blocks in succession to do anything visible. and the visible something will probably be his 3 block thing being an orphan.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 05:35 asciilifeform: davout: for mempool tx i can just ban the opcode.
mircea_popescu: the sheer idiocy of building contracts into money can not be properly appreciated by coders, sadly.
ben_vulpes: this is perhaps the one instance in the history of the world where the software schelling point might actually migrate /away/ from complexity.
mircea_popescu: the whole "native support for '''contracts'''" in satoshi's spaghetti is exactly equivalent to his support for '''accounts'''. deeply misguided, entirely useless, pure wildman nonsense.
mircea_popescu: tbh /me has little intention to support anything but the above in trb-i. no fucking "scripts". name your input, name your output, sign. that's it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't have to evaluate the script. you have to check that the inputs exist, check that the txn is signed, and that's that. all the nutty bs "scripts" do is not of any interest, not really.
asciilifeform off to trb room to verify this statement. and then to bed.
davout: "Additionally I have done extensive fuzzing to ensure the result is identical to the current implementation."
mircea_popescu: and you don't have to evaluate the script to check the tx.
asciilifeform: davout: for mempool tx i can just ban the opcode.
davout: (assuming you have the pre-requisites already in block)
mircea_popescu: davout the way this works is by piling a bunch of slow txn.
davout: "It is possible to use a standard p2sh transaction as the attack vector, but it seems to be a transaction that takes no more than 500 msec to be verified." <<< this part confused my parser
davout: asciilifeform: it isn't very clear to me if the actual attack ~must~ be a P2SH transaction
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599556 << expect to see thousands of these, made Just For Us
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Because rain noise you'll probably want some sort of roof above the steel
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: barns in the 2-3 range, meatboxes same, but without truss roof
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For strolling through the garden you've placed atop your fence
ben_vulpes: and yes i can cut, weld, seal. no big. but forge from billet? get the fuck out
ben_vulpes: more like 2.5 cost of bulk dirt if you're going to compare at the level of billet
ben_vulpes: nevermind that the retail cost for corrugated panel is going to be rather larger than that for billet which omfg cannot be bought retail
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: neglects the cost of turning brick into structural frames and walls
mircea_popescu: that's like buying house for 2.5 the price of bulk brick
mircea_popescu: steel billet is like 300, 20 foot dry container is like 2.3 tons tare, so that's about 700 out of the 1.7 just the price of the metal.
mircea_popescu: containers suck in all places with a weather.
ben_vulpes: veehehehery interested in the material's load bearing capabilities too, but TEUs are literally haus duplos so...
ben_vulpes: there is also http://www.masongreenstar.com/, but yes mostly considering as insulator
BingoBoingo: An you're talking insulation, I thought you were talking the real estate firm
mircea_popescu: "The 652 square metre corner block boasts high ceilings, timber flooring, a theatre room and alfresco deck." AND ONE BATHROOM
mircea_popescu: wtf they do anywya, "you can't be john, we already have a john. why don't you be felix ?"
mircea_popescu: and in other "haterz care deeply" lulz, https://archive.is/vAZU8 https://archive.is/QjKln
hanbot: i don't see trilema in results at all, despite top of second page yielding censored term (p*ssy). motherfuckers.
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mircea_popescu: heh so apparently they're gonna shut down the server i'm connected through. GOOD BY CRUEL WORLD!
mircea_popescu: which is the summa : wikipedia is meaningless and uninteresting ; that it does so through the mechanism of advertising "not using advertising" and asking for "donations", and that it manages to chump randos into turning large piles of banal trivia into an agglomeration of garbage is entirely incidental.
mircea_popescu: the other speaks to accuracy. there is a reason man pages are written by the authors of the software, not by a conclave of self-identified users of said software. a measure of accuracy could certainly be devised whereby the 2nd version is "just as accurate" as a proper man page. nevertheless, it would not in the slightest be INTERESTING.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the noobs : to specific objections are raised here. one speaks to corectness : a random "reality tv" show may include elements which, inasmuch as they factually exist, are actually true, such as a curb, or a window pane. nevertheless, this does not make the reality tv show MEANINGFUL.
mircea_popescu: i always read it as a "i am dedicated to the empire and won't miss an opportunity to spam its tendrils". exactly the same substance as the "seo expert" pushing colon cleanser or w/e. just vaguely different clothing.
mircea_popescu: if i don't agree with what you mean by dog, pointing to the tv set is unlikely to resolve much.
mircea_popescu lost interest on the 3rd reference or thereabouts.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 23:18 gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: well it seems I can't have you do what I had in mind. Could you instead please review http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/ternary/ and work out some basic ternery circuts for the eventual loper machine?
asciilifeform: 'About 28% of the original Bitcoin v0.1 source code remains in Bitcoin Core v0.12 (although that 28% now represents less than 1.9% of the total source lines), so the possibility existed. ' << lol!!
mircea_popescu: oh this is the lerner dude that exposed that bitmessage idiocy, i recall.
mircea_popescu: issues, and we'll provide a full post-mortem here in the morning." together with the absent anything "in the morning" readily constitutes the epitome of "a new generation" in computing.
mircea_popescu: "We've isolated the issue to a blip on an internal service caused by a deploy a few hours ago, which triggered a case where some buggy code incorrectly propagated the errors caused by the malfunction up to our client, that then attempted to retry sending the message. For now, we've reverted the changes and everything looks stable. We're going to investigate this further. As of now, we have a few action items to resolve these
mircea_popescu: ecking out for the sheer ineptitude involved (looks like a native crapple app ported to a web interface). and do consider their fucking notion of a post-mortem : https://archive.is/tPrBF#selection-765.0-762.5
mircea_popescu: and in other news wtf is #cyberhatsecurity
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599506 << because the fact that op is not already here carries the significance that the op has serious mental issues, of the nature of mental retardation, on which basis it is safe to assume op would return "that has nothing to do" rather than correctly prune the trees to get the shared up-node and then engage in the correct, intellectual-curiosity driven behaviour of reading himself out of
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 17:18 phf: well, mp is presumably trying to solve a problem of quoting large conversations. our thread links for example go for one liners, but require extra effort to figure out where the conversation starts and where it ends, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599505 << mp is in fact approaching the problem of "lord can be given single link pointer can be trusted to figure out the correct tree ; but outsider is much better served by being given block, because outsider ~= retard". so i tend to love ranges for things like "referencing old cannonical thread on periphery such as blog post comments" whereas love line references for "remind someone in c
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 17:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599371 << i've been thinking about this problem, because range select is very handy, but i haven't figured out a way to make it not confusing. specifically the "stickiness" where you catch a range and can't get rid of it. can implement the traditional select semantics like shift-click to activate a range?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-08#1599496 << shift click might also work fine yeah. who doesn't know about it doesn't need it either. what do you think of the dot idea ?
asciilifeform: in today's wtf noose: asciilifeform learned that the 1750A cpu is still made and sold today!!
asciilifeform: mod6: aha, the postmortem is in today's log
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 17:50 asciilifeform: published design, and not only design, but the mask generator (runs on, i shit thee not, itself, also)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:21 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598294 << scheme83 is like a "canticle for leibowitz" artifact. "published design" is overstatement of the century. scraps of published memos and reports spread over out of print conference proceedings, the bulk of actual technology needed to recreate probably somewhere on a TAPE. i don't know where you got that mask generator runs on scheme83. the entire production stack was for mit cadr
phf: last i ran into this yesterday for example here http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598392 i'm responding to line http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598295 but i quote one above it, as a pointer to the whole thread instead to establish context

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