mircea_popescu: i think we're all agreed that the problem with this here republic is nothing ever happens.
mircea_popescu: how's the eulora gfx work coming :D
mircea_popescu: "Like most of my law school classmates, I was a hyper-ambitious narcissist with no concrete plans for achieving the greatness to which I was entitled."
mircea_popescu: my work has appeared on your mother, bitch. what, you're gonna compete ? with what, "curbed" ?
mircea_popescu: ahaha oh this is delishious. "My work has appeared in LA Weekly, Vice, Curbed, Complex, ANIMALS, The Daily Dot, and LosAngeles.com" << dork quit law school because tucker max said to and is now a relationships advicerist.
asciilifeform: AcceptBlock ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles#1370 ) is the bottleneck
mircea_popescu: This weeks Rasmussen Poll, for example, found that 45% of voting Americans believe America is on the right track. This is down two points from the record high, which was recorded two weeks ago, and is higher than any week during the Obama presidency
mircea_popescu: the shadows again, no matter how factual they may be. The well is polluted to its core. Who to blame for this is at this point irrelevant (though in my last piece I argued the MSM should largely blame itself) because the distrust is so deep that its never coming back." << i lulzed.
mircea_popescu: "The leaders of the Trump movement (the real leaders) are so disconnected from the media that most of us read every day, and from the information provided by the government, that they might as well be living in one of Jones alternate dimensions. To them, its 100% fiction, just shadows flickering on the wall of Platos cave. And, like the liberated cave dwellers, theyve seen the outside, and theyll never believe
mircea_popescu: it'd matter a lot more if "isaac simpson" could either hold a rifle or man a post. or for that matter make a serving of french fries without taking half an hour. but as it is...
mircea_popescu: what fucking "rational" and what fucking "basis". trump impeachment = open hunting season for "our democracy" "civilised" cucks. the http://trilema.com/2016/stfu-attention-whore-culture/ will roll right over.
mircea_popescu: and re "isaac simpson", whoever the fuck she is, who gives a shit ? seriously now ?
asciilifeform: minority, rather.
asciilifeform: would seem that these are a type of pseudonode / misc. attacker, that comes in two varieties, one aimed at recent prb (majority), the other -- more trb / old-prb - flavoured.
asciilifeform: of these, 117106 report ver. 60000 ; but 1873 reported 70002 .
asciilifeform: in other lulz, there is a large population of nodes reporting 'version message: version 60000, blocks=350000' for all eternity (typically they auto-disconnect when discovering trb ver.) . anyone know who they belong to, and wtf ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, shinohai , et al : anyone ever notice these : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DfsKP/?raw=true << on a node nowhere near OOM condition, multiple GB free
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the monkey cage, https://archive.is/l8ZYG >> a clitlerist: 'oh noez, best prepare to suppress the rebellion that will come when we depose mr.t'
asciilifeform: in yet-other lulz:
asciilifeform: in other finds, there are today perhaps two dozen bitcoin nodes with serious 'uptime'.
mircea_popescu: maybe we should start spelling the dork's name K9ch, because it's not 0, it's 9.
asciilifeform: in other updates, 0 blackholing since wiring zoolag to dulap. thus far.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-storied-cupcake-and-other-stories/ << Trilema - The Storied Cupcake and other stories
trinque: the fuck are you people talking about, blank
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 23:53 asciilifeform: and holy mother of fuck, jurov , why does your thing mangle '@' into 'at'
asciilifeform: there's now 1 key for asciilifeform , from nao until gpg shitburial day ( same modulus as always )
asciilifeform: (the rest, same..)
phf: i kind of want a way to link useful assets to a patch on btcbase. right now if you have a readme.txt inside a patches folder you get that included as a prelude for a patchset (http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=fg). i think it would be handy to include wires over ssh link somewhere on the wires patch page..
shinohai: Baloney exchange is on there too .... but majority of exchanges use crapflare so likely affected.
asciilifeform: the classical diddled debian, afaik, never coexisted with aws.
asciilifeform: i could even picture that the original plan included offering d00d antidote, if he comes along..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the administration route is terrible, how the fuck do you dose the ingestion through splashing.
asciilifeform: complicated. pediwikia lies, paralysis of breath is not the only problem.
asciilifeform: (pupils the size of pinholes, etc)
asciilifeform: btw i find it strange that the local orc docs did not notice classical picture of organophosphate poison
mod6: <+asciilifeform> [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) A Recipe for the use of Wires via SSHITunnels. << cool! thanks alf.
asciilifeform: ( or butyrylcholinesterase, or one of the other lulzies asciilifeform worked on when slaving for usg )
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/HBLyJ << vx, claimed. was my suspicion also. chick prolly fed , e.g., pralidoxime, ahead of doing the deed.
asciilifeform: (stock trb will happily drop ~anyone~ on the floor, for dozen different reasons, incl. 'we used him for too long')
asciilifeform: the essential thing is nondisconnectable nodes.
asciilifeform: it was made for 'g', the ssh thing is temporary.
asciilifeform: can't help but wonder how much, or little, theirs resembles mine. just as brits wondered how much nazi 'freya' radar, resembled brit radar
asciilifeform: ultimately i'ma tear down the tunneltron and replace with 'g'. but same idea, topologically.
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'node as paid service' thing now can actually exist.
asciilifeform: my wired nodes still find each other via addr.dat and open ~second~, plaintext tcp pipe...
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the 'anti-selfconnect nonce' in bitcoin, never worked
asciilifeform: also http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000252.html has typo! and nobody noticed!!1 chown oughta be, of course, chmod.
asciilifeform: the emperor is the earliest, known to me, inventor of 'specificity of diddling' lemma. see logs, very informative.
mircea_popescu: what i'm more interested in is this apparent limit on "what can be thought about" based on some sort of i'm not even sure what. is it the case that i can't think about women now ?
asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:15 asciilifeform: without seeing the rack, you don't know which ones -- if any -- are fg; and which one is my air conditioner; etc
mircea_popescu: the what now ?
veen: i suspect we'll never reconcile the "must build snow-flake" paranoia with drive to make architecture which can be reasoned about
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 23:52 asciilifeform: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) A Recipe for the use of Wires via SSH Tunnels.
mircea_popescu: it's worth keeping a farm of vartious nodes just to watcdh them struggle with the chain. pretty interersting data.
asciilifeform: veen: it isn't that it is a catastrophically bad idea, compared to what is currently on your box -- rather, it is an example of something you do not want to cement in long-term use
veen: is this new as of the SHA1 nooze yesterday?
mircea_popescu: so it's getting replaced altogether.
mircea_popescu: the only thing is that gpg is already obsoleted becauyse of its inane fingerprinting scheme
mircea_popescu: listen to the words of he who suffers this weekly with eulora.
asciilifeform: during the great wild goose chase.
mircea_popescu: lol he escaped the slashes, isn't he adorable :D
veen: by that token s/\/dev\/random/\/dev\/fg/g again gpg src doesn't help us either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stronger argument than it seems. leaving aside the static issue, it's not even a given gpg compiles at all.
mircea_popescu: so it may make sense as a convenience thing to symlink it to your fuckgoats tty. but don't expect you've now thereby fixed the system
mircea_popescu: yes. but if you then turn around and feed that into userland shitprng, you've not impoved anything.
mircea_popescu: that sameness allows the enemy some levers it needn't have, first of all in its own safety's sake.
veen: proposal is replace output of linux csprng-crazy that underlies /dev/random with the output of FUCKGOATS
mircea_popescu: actually, the sentiment here is that ~all usg code is just reused scraps of the same stale old crap. this sentiment is fed by you know, us having cut up the usg toys numerous times and having run into the same bits.
veen: but it sounds like the sentitment here is using a well-known noise fountain is a vulnerable one
veen: to explain my reasoning by way of donning my engineering hat, i saw an existing contract of the form "noise comes out here" and a deficit default implementation, and proposed a better impl
mircea_popescu: because cryptography deals with absrtacts only, the kerckhoffs standard makes sense. but whenever items with an associated mass are involved, things change.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like we have another '20 minute block'
mircea_popescu: cryptographical security is one thing ; operations security is another.
mircea_popescu: would you propose the usg "invisible fighter" program is "security through obscurity" ? because... it is.
asciilifeform: veen: security through not conveniently labeling 'here i keep the crown jewels' in advance. it multiplies.
asciilifeform: without seeing the rack, you don't know which ones -- if any -- are fg; and which one is my air conditioner; etc
mircea_popescu: so, you may not ~care~ to compile them all ; but whether you are interested in war or not -- war is interested in you.
mircea_popescu: and gpg is not very far off this ; neither are ALL usg produced programs you are running.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-24#1617373 << the importance of this can't be understated. if f(x) = 4 it matters VERY little what 'rng" you feed f.
asciilifeform: veen: specificity-of-diddling. by using one centralized entropy pool that the os knows about, you make enemy's work slightly easier.
veen: my reasoning is that if the semantics of /dev/random is that, taken over infinity, it emits flat spectrum of octects, and lots of binaries in the wild have that assumption baked it, why not coax kernel into allowing FUCKGOATS to fulfill the contract of /dev/random directly?
asciilifeform: there is (not yet released) 'p', mentioned in earlier thread today, which will eat from 1 or more FGs
asciilifeform: there are also others ( e.g., generating onetimepads; or in general input for any proggy that sanely eats input )
asciilifeform: veen: there's the one you described (conventional gpg with string '/dev/random' ripped out and replaced with the correct) ;
asciilifeform: this is deliberate, the os has no business knowing what it is.
asciilifeform: rather, stty -ixon /dev/yourfg
veen: unless i'm grossly misunderstanding the sematics, reading /dev/random for infinity should produce dat sweet flat spectrum, right?
veen: where's the problem?
veen: wait, what in the loop cares about control chars?
asciilifeform: (there is a red alarm lamp on the pcb to alert in case of analogue rng failure, but it is theoretically possible for the circuit to break outside of FUCKGOATS proper)
asciilifeform: you also MUST have some means for not attempting to cryptoate if the device for whatever reason is not functioning.
asciilifeform: the requisite necks for it to unexist, have not yet been broken.
asciilifeform: or the tty will LOSE CONTROL CHARS !!!!
asciilifeform: there are some nuances though.
asciilifeform: theoretically.
trinque: just to entertain the thing, since dev's this fancy udev thing now, could have some udev rule to delete /dev/random and plop another device node in its place, via symlink or w/e
veen: great, but gpg is only one of n programs on my system that need good random numbers, and i don't care to recompile them all
asciilifeform: i would say 'replace /dev/random in gpg source with /dev/fg and build' but the rng in gpg is monumentally retarded and i disrecommend its use entirely
veen: put it this way, i couldn't figure out how to generate a gpg keypair with fuckgoats, because gpg reads /dev/random, and i couldn't work out how to get fuckgoats (or any other file-like) shimmed in there
veen: maybe i'm coming at this in completely the wrong way
asciilifeform: there's no driver, veen , it's a tty
asciilifeform: veen: file ? you gonna store the position somewhere ?
asciilifeform: (mine, and any other malleus-enabled nodez, will ban.)
asciilifeform: lulzily we're banning ~100% of prb nao because they ~insist~ on shitting out 'alert' packets
asciilifeform: ( what this looks like : you get some, e.g., 'WARNING: disconnecting wire 127.0.0.1:9000 ! (will retry...)' in the debug log. until the wire peer is happy to eat again . )
asciilifeform: (only node, rather, on dulap)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not looking for an answer, it's a compliment on the his prolific output
mircea_popescu: i thought you were sold by the year+
asciilifeform: i'm usually sold by the pound...
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy that they had the 'how we FOUND our BUG!' document hot an'ready to broadcast.
asciilifeform: 'The underlying bug occurs because of a pointer error.'
asciilifeform: 'I don't know if this issue was noticed and exploited, but I'm sure other crawlers have collected data and that users have saved or cached content and don't realize what they have, etc. We've discovered (and purged) cached pages that contain private messages from well-known services, PII from major sites that use cloudflare, and even plaintext API requests from a popular password manager that were sent over https (!!).'
asciilifeform: h that some colleagues around the Project Zero office even got intrigued. It became clear after a while we were looking at chunks of uninitialized memory interspersed with valid data. ...'
asciilifeform: 'On February 17th 2017, I was working on a corpus distillation project, when I encountered some data that didn't match what I had been expecting. It's not unusual to find garbage, corrupt data, mislabeled data or just crazy non-conforming data...but the format of the data this time was confusing enough that I spent some time trying to debug what had gone wrong, wondering if it was a bug in my code. In fact, the data was bizarre enoug
asciilifeform: in other lulz, mircea_popescu , https://archive.is/HIr9r << i think we have the answer to 'why did asciilifeform get 64kb of crapolade in the guise of ZIPs from archive.is in july of '16 ? '
asciilifeform: and holy mother of fuck, jurov , why does your thing mangle '@' into 'at'
asciilifeform: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) A Recipe for the use of Wires via SSH Tunnels.
mircea_popescu: (but nice trick with the archive there, got me to check out reddit and it wasn't even talking about me!)
mircea_popescu: turns out "the biftinex hack" was ~= same as "the mtgox blabla", ie usg ran off with the coins ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, re "online trolling", it's by now a rather transparent euphemism for "racist homophobic terrorism" aka "russia influencing elections" aka pantsuit clown getting raped by reality.
asciilifeform: or what, we aren't counting mtgox ? then why count the other leveraged and otherwise paper-addled exchanges.
asciilifeform: 'Update February 23rd, 1:45PM ET: Twitter user Ramsey Nasser points out that the algorithm has consistently high toxicity for Arabic, no matter the content.'
asciilifeform: 'The software works by determining the “toxicity” of online comments, a scale that has been established by mining millions of comments from the web and then presenting them to panels of 10 people (humans!) at a clip to get their feedback. '
a111: Logged on 2017-02-22 07:26 mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a common thread going through the google go ai, attempts to "secure the banking system against risk", the surveillance state / internet of things / smart cars and so on.
trinque: it has now been zero minutes since the last all time low for USD
ben_vulpes: spinmeisters in full effect: https://theconversation.com/red-state-rural-america-is-acting-on-climate-change-without-calling-it-climate-change-69866
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2017/02/simple-blender-2-66-cal3d/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Simple Blender 2.66 -> Cal3d
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/23/joseph-and-the-amazing-technicolor-dreamcoat/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 23:00 asciilifeform: i was not going to expand on the 'p' thread until the proggy is done, but this is probably a good time to say 1 more
mircea_popescu: (and, of course, we have, courtesy of you know, that "unreasonable expenditure that will spell the ruin of s.nsa and with it of the entire republic!!11" a complete list of all rsa moduli.)
asciilifeform: will add also that from the pov of a third party unliked to wot of (owner) or (usurper), there are now ~two~ 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452 people.
mircea_popescu: anyway. to get back to the point of interest : it is entirely possible to produce a 'i eat toe fungus!', signed, sincerely, 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452. ; but it is not possible to hide the fact that this was a fake from the owner of the privkey and anyone who has his pubkey.
asciilifeform: should not have been a surprise, to anyone. like the old example of derelict bridge falling down. 'not an if, but a when'
asciilifeform: regardless of knob settings. it is required by the rfc, and is in common among all known pgptrons.
asciilifeform: they are hard-wired to sha.
asciilifeform: the keyring thing is a work of evil.
asciilifeform: the real headache is that it is entirely possible to produce a 'i eat toe fungus!', signed, sincerely, 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452. a year ago i estimated that this costs 100k usd. today -- probably a few thou.
mircea_popescu: even then. "you weren't voiced on my machine, whence did this deed come from"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i just mean the reason it can't get crapflooded with fake deeds.
mircea_popescu: this is where you link any imbecile of the geoffrey supran variety who dares blather about how "do not homebrew crypto"
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough -- it is currently the case that deedbot's deeds list integrity is currently protected by republican design rather than by usg's "cryptographic standards".
asciilifeform: it is not particularly difficult for tmsr folk to avoid situation where this boojum matters. however it is quite ~impossible~ for heathens to avoid.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the whole rsa signature thing needs an overhaul.
asciilifeform: at quite reasonable expense, enemy can produce a key that sha-fp's to B98228A001ABFFC7, and for which he has the priv p,q.
mircea_popescu: or to quote from the cesspool, "This is both incredibly fascinating, and a beautiful show of the kinds of innovation the Bitcoin system supports!"
mircea_popescu: what they say is "we recommend you mine the block yourself", because totally, this is how it goes, instead of saying "we understand this doohickey is braindamaged beyond the conceivable and the only reason it exists is the existential void besetting our meaningless existence"
asciilifeform: it was a toy, and even explicitly warned 'you must mine the block yourself, or miner can simply take the prize'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the important point there is : the whole fake bitcoin address (3something) is supposed to be "useful" in practice. this utility is supposed to be proven by idiotic "challenges" like this one put up by peter todd. EXCEPT the output does not actually SIGN the transaction claiming the bounty.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 18:47 danielpbarron: the collision was apparently real enough to trigger the spending of a bounty contained in some nonstandard address abomination >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.msg17950195#msg17950195
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617193 >> golden lulzies, 'Note that the value of your SHA256, RIPEMD160, RIPEMD160(SHA256()) or SHA256^2 bounty may be diminished by the act of collecting it.'
asciilifeform: th another 160-bit hash, such as RIPE-MD/160, for example.)'
asciilifeform: in other vintage lulz, 'Note also that unlike nearly every other OpenPGP subsystem, there are no parameters in the MDC system. It hard-defines SHA-1 as its hash function. This is not an accident. It is an intentional choice to avoid downgrade and cross-grade attacks while making a simple, fast system. (A downgrade attack would be an attack that replaced SHA-256 with SHA-1, for example. A cross-grade attack would replace SHA-1 wi
asciilifeform: adlai: any time you feel like doing something useful -- no shortage of items. there is, for instance, a trb knob direly needing testing, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html
mircea_popescu: the female lesson.
asciilifeform: notice that this comes with a built-in twiddle nonce -- the key creation timestamp
asciilifeform: 'A V4 fingerprint is the 160-bit SHA-1 hash of the octet 0x99, followed by the two-octet packet length, followed by the entire Public-Key packet starting with the version field. The Key ID is the low-order 64 bits of the fingerprint. ' -- ye olde rfc4880
asciilifeform: 'ain't git-cum-pgp as good as v..?' -- somebody or other
mircea_popescu: other than us being you know, unscientific and crazy.
asciilifeform: well yes, specifically the full fp
mircea_popescu: anyway, may even work with the FULL fingerprint/
asciilifeform: the sha1 people posted the algo. shouldn't take too much work to turn it into a, e.g., gpg fp clobberer.
mircea_popescu: dude, they are mining pdfs. you understand this ?
mircea_popescu: they should probably hire adlai.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically they're mining pdfs. anything, ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, please god anything, just as long as it's not the thing.
mats: i was also stung by the alphago bet
asciilifeform: 'don't play chump games unless you stacked the deck yourself. and even then, reconsider.'
asciilifeform: mats: i learned my lesson re bbet during the leesedol thing.
mats: likely donged by some googler in the project
asciilifeform: which, i cannot help but notice, resembles the mirrored keys on phuctor...
mircea_popescu: they're gone.
asciilifeform missed the memo
asciilifeform: they're gone?!
mircea_popescu: it's like going from jewish princess to blue collar divorced man in the space of one fucking season.
mircea_popescu: it shall be so lulzy to watch the libertards reconstruct BOTH the shreds of their failed official-left party as well as an imaginary not-trump GOP, all this while actually having to work two jobs to support themselves because well, the endowments are gone-gone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check that out, just like the white house!
mats: i lost some coin betting against the sha1 collision
asciilifeform: 'White nationalist Richard Spencer says he’s been kicked out of a gathering of conservative activists. Spencer posted a video on the internet saying he was “politely asked to leave” the Conservative Political Action Conference. Spencer was booted shortly after being denounced by an organizer of the conference. American Conservative Union Executive Director Dan Schneider denounced the so-called alt-right as anti-Semitic, racist
mircea_popescu: somebody should give the media its pills.
mircea_popescu: so the media reports to have been "challenged" to stop mentioning the rapist raping it into an early grave by certain imaginary friends it has hallucinated into existence ?
asciilifeform: the 'respectable conservatives' are a zhirinovskian 'heat sink' and have been for decades.
mircea_popescu: i thought the pantsuit clown was "progressive" not "conservative".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they put on new set of hand muppet gloves, clitler et al.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'non-alt' is the old 'gop', the one that sets up 9/11s, invades iraq, etc.
mircea_popescu: this "small" alt right seems to be about the entire right.
mircea_popescu: either in terms of who participates or what it proposes. i can't seem to find either ?
mircea_popescu: these be dangerous twenty five year olds with two kids.
mircea_popescu: clearly the jew pig did a great turn for our democracy.
asciilifeform: nao, nobody expects to read about non-retarded 13337 t3rror1stz in the völkischer beobachter. but apparently nowhere else, either.
asciilifeform: ather of two.'
asciilifeform: and in same fishwrap, another 'new york deathray plot', https://archive.is/me1dv >> 'The U.S. Army veteran was charged last week with trying to support the Islamic State ... Agents swooped in during a meeting with a man Hester believed was an Islamic State contact, according to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Missouri. But the man was actually an undercover FBI agent who had been building a case against the 25-year-0ld f
asciilifeform: 'William H. McRaven, a retired four-star admiral and former Navy SEAL, defended journalists this week, calling President Trump’s denunciation of the media as “the enemy of the American people” the “greatest threat to democracy” he’s seen in his lifetime.'
asciilifeform: 'One of the first speeches at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference challenged the media to stop referring to the “alt-right,” a small, far-right movement that seeks a whites-only state and that strongly backed Donald Trump for president, as conservative. “There is a sinister organization that is trying to warp its way into our ranks,” said Dan Schneider, the executive director of the American Conservative Un
asciilifeform: in other lulz:
mircea_popescu: there's also that.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 03:55 mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu in re: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617048 , interestingly zoolag -- despite being an x86 comp the size of a tea saucer, and weighing ~400 gram -- has roughly 3x faster block verification (of given block) than dulap ! -- on account of ssd.
asciilifeform: oh i neglected to revise the readme: 'they don't ever voluntarily get disconnected' is not strictly true!!!! wires are now permitted to disconnect (in catastrophic situations, e.g. flood) but will attempt to reconnect after the set interval, ad infinitum.
asciilifeform: fourth item : wires over ssh tunnel (set up the tunnel, then add 127.0.0.1:tunnelport as your wire)
asciilifeform: trinque: two main things to test, afaik: 1) reconnects (let it connect, then temporarily ban ip in iptables on the other side; see how long it takes to reconnect) and 2 ) bidirectional wires, two nodes 'wired to' one another, same, in each direction.
trinque: However they ~will~ prevent the idiotic situation where known/trusted nodes were treated equally to random scum. << lovely, thank you asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : the wires patch has a mistake, it fails to reconnect; please do not waste time to test it until fixed.
shinohai: In other news `SHA-1` is trending on twitter today: https://twitter.com/search?q=SHA-1&src=tren
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/yankee-doodle-henry-part-iii/ << The Whet - Yankee Doodle Henry, Part III
mircea_popescu: there is some indirect coinbase selection stuff.
asciilifeform: (there is a sigop limit, but no block seek thrash limit!)
asciilifeform: disk is the real killer tho.
asciilifeform: (a 2010 here, a 2011 there...)
asciilifeform: i'ma guess the elixir of slooow is: disk thrashing via snarfing of old inputs
mircea_popescu: it's not even the usual worstcase but some novel hell
asciilifeform: ( if you recall , that was when we had a trb node, offline, eat the complete chain to date from disk, with timer and valgrind going )
mircea_popescu: just profile the code eating it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point in case block we were discussing yest. i timed it at 22 minutes on "reasonable" amd.
mircea_popescu: they more or less gave up on verifying.
asciilifeform: btw do the prb folk have parallelized block verify yet? or do they simply eat whatever garbage.
mircea_popescu: if only. the pile of gnarl is unfuckingtraceable.
mircea_popescu: yeah. just, back on the 21st the problem happened ot be a pile of contrived blocks s'all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: block verification is ~an~ issue, world stops for 3-8 minutes when block candidate is being eaten. but is demonstrably not the cause of multi-hour blackhole.
mircea_popescu: there is some value in node discovery, but there's a major problem with the socket starvation.
PeterL: seems like a ping, pong is not a big change, but I guess I see your point. Is there any benefit to it, or is it strictly noise?
asciilifeform: to what else would you have trb 'respond as they expect', PeterL ? bloom filter? segshitness?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616189 << Why not just respond with "pong" like they expect?
ben_vulpes: the vassals for whom this grates, straight to gpg.