mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, from an individual perspective. but in aggregate, worst case of confederate dollars ever. "we'll take these 5bn shares of apple and replace them with 5bn shjares of crapple. because it's ok hurr."
trinque: guy probably had more of it directed at him than anybody else in the place
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: to be fair, anyone who didn't liquidate a week before jobs' illness hit the rags is a derp who got what they deserved
trinque: you'd have thought Ive was going to be the guy
ben_vulpes: 'omfg you mean to tell me there's no centralized database of who owns what and owes who else which shares?'
trinque: been considering the ideological reproduction thing since recent genetics threads (and rereading related trilema)
ben_vulpes: hacker nyooz recently realized how brokerages add slack to the market, twas a lulzy set of comments
mircea_popescu: "well... the other guy died" aaaand this is my problem how! i bought jobs stock not fucking wtf this is.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it occurs to me, btw, that the scam whereby people who were holding jobs shares were converted to cook shares is one of the cruelest things in nature.
mircea_popescu: sells for 7k funbux on the ruby app.
mircea_popescu: imagine if in a few years the actual fucking chunks of metal are the point of worship. "oh man, that's tech! who can make straight angles anymore!"
ben_vulpes: nevertheless, i have good money that says these machines will be plentiful and cheap until they are utter unobtainium.
ben_vulpes: with the forth based firmware, etc
trinque: the minis are also nice to have
ben_vulpes: no, specifically the macintosh ppc g5's
ben_vulpes: old hat for the mircea_popescu's
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: pardon me but the side of your /what/?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the light attracts delishius snacks.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : there's this matte window to the side of my chicken. and there's a gecko who now lives there. but i mean totally, its his window.
ben_vulpes: but the experience is more that of having blessed some random jews wandering in the desert with the secrets of hygiene
ben_vulpes: i mean there's a whole trumpet flare and clouds parting and everything sure
trinque imagines ben_vulpes standing atop a fixed shitter patriotically, like the bum in mircea_popescu's parable
mircea_popescu: i understand you though. they're so boneheadedly retarded they're offensive to the very concepts.
ben_vulpes: asks the guy who developed a recreational habit of fixing other people's toilets in the most retarded corner of south america...
ben_vulpes: you can't spend all that energy confronting her with her own mistakes, let her walk out, digest it, and the next man benefit
mircea_popescu: "exothermic oxidation is productive". sure it is, if it happens in the combustion chamber.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-19 23:43 mircea_popescu: it's not a bad thing, not among people who love each other.
shinohai still remembers wtf'ing with mod6 over the fact their new, improved site had no way to dump privkeys for nearly 2 months
shinohai: They are like blockchain.info where the most important "upgrades" are cute animations to the UI
Framedragger: gdax looks to have a sick animation on the landing page, with forever-rising candles
shinohai: In Coinbase lulz "Customers who wish to access both blockchains at the time of the hard fork should withdraw their BTC from GDAX"
mod6: so, let the prototyping begin!
Framedragger: you basically deal with a continuous array; plus the option to be careful to read/write at sector boundaries for i/o efficiency.
Framedragger: not at all! sure, you still rely on disk's firmware but the degree of crapola-reliance is orders of magnitude less. *you do not deal with filesystem at all*.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, who's to say a simple move to 64 bits doesn't resolve the problem altogether. but anyway, i'm more making a point than proposing a technical solution.
mircea_popescu: consider : IF we decide to make megabyte large blocks, who says fat32 is inadequate then ? that 4gb has a lot to do with the size of a block.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall being as pissed off with fat32 at any point throughout the 90s as i've regularly been hence.
mircea_popescu: no, i know. but if we end up patching dumbass systems, we should consider the whole field of dumbass systems. not just the ones that falsely promise to work and then fail to work ; but also the ones which honestly admit their limits.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oof, max fat32 size is 4gb, with a maximum of (to the tune of) hundreds of millions of files (less than 1bn); there's also exFAT of course, etc., but eugh
mod6: The role was put on hold since I wrote `t', and 'tb0t', but might come back up again at a later date.
mod6: Framedragger: the stenographer role was proposed to be an actual job for the foundation, complete with pay and everything.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also, we are not at wall : we saw ext4 ; did not see ext2 ; did not see reiserfs. << for sure. i think we're just getting started baselining these prototypes.
Framedragger: (yeah mircea_popescu afraid i won't have time re. those other two till quite a bit later)
mod6: so that might help. i might write some sort of API also where project admins can interact with their projects without having to use IRC.
mod6: tb0t eventually will be upgraded to use the new system.
mod6: and we could track things easier instead of having to have it be a formal role. but with the new version, seperate projects can have different users, so for instance, if UCI wants a stenographer, then the project admin can just add the steno to the UCI users table. volla.
Framedragger: (current version records the important things including trb work, so imho it's doing fine)
mod6: yeah, there was this intial idea of a 'stenographer'.. and I think that's what drove me to just make the ticket system.
mod6: hopefully it'll be at least better than the first version, which is fine for now, but certainly could be better.
mod6: it's meant to be project cutomizeable per project... with like the ticket codes, etc. i'm building out the database now... and it's going well, just slowly.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 01:00 Framedragger should write some kind of simple thingie which takes (1) keyword and (2) timestamp pairs as intervals, and produces a kind of wiki page for all given keywords. (2) can be amended later as needed. so that there'd be a page for gossipd without much effort at all
Framedragger: (btw since there's so much different stuff happening i was considering doing something like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481401 (and possibly using log.mkj.lt's multi-line-citation feature to 'capture' different notes/projects) but obviously expanding the ticketing system in a consistent, proper way is the way to go)
mod6: there are project admins, and project users... etc. i should add the ability for rich or chained notes.
mod6: there can be public/private projects.
mod6: in the new version it's setup different.
mod6: no, not a list of notes per ticket in the original version.
Framedragger: mod6: fwiw i agree completely. the key point here is (as you said) *noting it down* (including dead-ends). so yeah, afaict you're on the very right track here. i wonder, does the current system need complex massaging to be able to track things like that? i mean, you can add tickets, but i guess no way for them to have a *list* of notes (per ticket)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> to n00bs i often recommend to have an analogue scope also << are these just a bit easer to learn on than their digital counterparts?
mod6: So I'll be getting into the thick of that very soon. Lot to do to get trb-i going.
mod6: I dont need a ticket for this, but man, I really gotta get into the swing of Ada.
mod6: Even if you think that we're at a wall, and we've seen all there is to see.. then we record those numbers. Or if we should try on baremetal with, reiserfs, and record those, or if even with those baselines, then someday we make our own filesystem and compare to those baselines.
mod6: There is some side project stuff too that I'd like to get organized and tickets entered for. For instance, you, Framedragger, did some work towards the filesystem idea. We aught to have a ticket for that and track the results.
mod6: I do want to outline more of the trb-i work in tickets, and do some clean-up/management of existing trb tickets.
mod6: Heh, I'm working on a major update to T, also. It's been a bit slow-going as that isn't obviously the most high priority item.
mod6: Yup, all the wot variant rules are in place. We now orphan vpatches from the flow where ~all~ antecedents are *not* present. Some other small changes, such as; When you press to a give output directory 'X', and then press to the same given output directory, we first remove 'X', then create & press.
mod6: <+Framedragger> anyway not sure how useful but you might want to take a look at http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ doppler (at *_tickets.html), not sure how up to date. (...) << Yeah, it needs some updating. The new V is going to be out in the next few days. Then will put some time into that.
mod6: Framedragger: thanks for the heads up
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad thing, not among people who love each other.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "disagreement-verbiage" so to call it is the stuff of life. i have tons of it with my slavegirls, and they're very literal chattel slaves, not as much as a stitch they own outright nor as much as a private fold in their heart. nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: Framedragger o god your poor mother.
Framedragger: anyway not sure how useful but you might want to take a look at http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ doppler (at *_tickets.html), not sure how up to date. also http://trilema.com/category/job-board/ for interesting projects which may be good for you as well as good for this here forum
Framedragger: yeah :) i obviously didn't have any meaningful connection with him before he died, and this was the first semi-personal thing that honestly made me sad
Framedragger: doppler: yeah they have frequent disagreement-verbiage between themselves, too, guess that's an interesting dynamic
Framedragger: (re. scientific tree, grandfather had this notebook where he diddled lots of things. he was a kind of soviet accountant, and died when i was ~4. many years later when looking at notebook, i discover this 'game' across a great many pages of it. turns out... game of life - neat)
Framedragger: doppler: one's psychoanalyst and the other's member of parliament (we have frequent disagreements on things, suffice to say)
jhvh1: Framedragger: The operation succeeded.
doppler: my father does account management at a photography studio
Framedragger: (in the greek sense of techne)
Framedragger: i think that list was supposed to focus on technology-things, hence it being so partial. (but then, maybe one can see 'church' as a piece of technology, etc...)
Framedragger: doppler: i found this useful when trying to understand what are some of the things that people are doing here: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-05#1317685 (seven items)
doppler: some of you can probably relate there
mircea_popescu: anywya, the log's published.
doppler: just a dude; I read your website and sort of have a loose grasp of some of the community members here
mircea_popescu: hi there.
Framedragger: (probably wasn't clear, i mean the photo, i've read the blog before. ..almost looks like it was shot on film or sth)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck seriously runs linux ? i wish to see this wonder.
mircea_popescu: in further lulz : tar is not able to create directories with an @ in them (why ? because they don't quote, obviously), yet they're standard in exim inbox saving. ergo, can't safely tar.gz exim directory.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so run gzip -t on an archive, it... ends silenty.
ben_vulpes: aaand what feels like an eternity later, i have completed my first actual (minor) under-the-hood surgery on the corvette. alternator belt, which is behind the power steering, air conditioning, and "AIR" pump belts
asciilifeform: very versatile thing, imho not the least bit obsolete.
asciilifeform: ( the traditional kind, with crt. )
asciilifeform: re that particular unit -- screen is the weak point, what with 320x200
mircea_popescu: now simmer down, you're gonna do something in the mbps range, which is what we're talking about.
mircea_popescu: yes. where do you buy a 4mb internal memory that writes at that rate, seeing how that's what the fucking rigol has.
BingoBoingo: The socially aware cheerleader type girls seem to in my experience use the bared fangs smile successfully to intimidate lesser girls, the social inept church females seem to ape what the cool cheerleaders do without understanding
shinohai: They have to show off all that happiness that only Jeebus can give.
mod6: http://trilema.com/2017/the-anti-woman/ << Footnote ', pro-tip has me lmao
BingoBoingo just got back from corned beef and cabbage at long term drug and alcohol rehab facility. A+++ would eat holiday novelty food there again.
asciilifeform: there's 4MB in that rigol, if you want more than 4MB of tape, gotta plug into comp
mircea_popescu: well yes but suppose you actually want the data
mod6: ahh, ok. i wasn't even totally aware that you needed software along with the tool. i thought that the sample was just fed back to you on the little screen...
asciilifeform: most of the nice ( $1000 and up) scopes, are winblowistic aha
mod6: do the tektronix ones only work with winblowz or something?
asciilifeform: iirc one of the other d00d at c2 confessed to having same rigol at home ( was it kako..? or davout )
mod6: haha. i've never used one of these before. but im interested in learning how to use it.
asciilifeform: relays ( i shit thee not ) click inside it, when switching ranges
shinohai: Mozilla says most people are "pretty fuzzy" about the way encryption works. Some 65 percent say they know a little about encryption but wish they knew more, while almost third said they know almost nothing about it. Those who claim to know more about encryption also report feeling more secure online, according to Mozilla."
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-12#1162469 << I'm looking at scopes... anreccomendations on these? tektronix or rigol ones ok?
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: is in the logs somewhere..
asciilifeform: recently i found that even a plebe could, in theory, afford a few thou. units of 1980s-style fab.
asciilifeform: fabbing at other than 'bleeding edge' process, is apparently quite predictable and 'boring' affair
asciilifeform: i know this because he is fabless, makes'em at commercial 'by the pound' fabs
asciilifeform: that d00d (chuck peddle, iirc) who makes the wd65c02
mircea_popescu: i'm sure. wasn't much of a problem in general in the z80s days
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1629015 << odds are it couldn't be re-done in a current fab, the vast majority of current fab constraints go towards avoiding echos and other self-crits the design may impose upon itself. as the engineers at the time didn't labour under the same constraints, and they're cutting out way more than 99% of the theoretical design space, the odds their work product would work in 14nm process are ze
mircea_popescu: that said, it could of course be re-done, by people who understand completely what it did. but a lot more work than "print me these old family films on modern paper".
asciilifeform: then, eventually, whole shebang with fpga.
asciilifeform: then replace card with fpga+ivorychip (after reversed glue logic)
asciilifeform: phf: i've contemplated a 'cheat' : run macivory 'lifesupport' on patched m68k emulator (e.g., 'basilisk') that would bring nubus i/o out to a test stand, on which the card would sit
asciilifeform: also it seems like there were 2 macivories, the one i almost bought, was 4x slower than the last made, and had external ( on another nubus card ) ram
phf: macivory is an ivory on a board with all the i/o handled over a bus by a mac
phf: i don't have an alpha though, same reason i don't have a macivory, i don't want to have to study/rely on all these other architectures
phf: both approaches are viable, you can use emulator as reference, you can also use real hardware as reference, with the solution meeting somewhere in the middle.
asciilifeform: iirc alpha-genera on 1ghz alpha runs at 40x the clock that xl1200 ran at..
asciilifeform: betcha all of the 'life support' would fit also. just stick a few srams and a nic on top.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, according to the press release for smbx, that thing had 370k transistor. slightly more than 386. (but around half as many as 486 iirc)
asciilifeform: phf wouldn't happen to know the pinout, by any chance ..?
asciilifeform: i bid 2.6k usd on the ivory2 from earlier thread, then wss outbid, then offered nonbinding '2nd chance', but by then thought 'meh'
phf: my goal with that thing was to give it to zeptobars, but i'm not going to moscows for at least another 4 months
asciilifeform: overall i suspect this is a more productive attack than microscopy ( though the thing was fabbed at 1 uM, it would be quite visible on optical microscope )
asciilifeform: and xray for the pcb tracks
asciilifeform: literally everything else on that card, i have pinouts for, they are standard 1980s parts, it seems
asciilifeform: though the pinout is unknown, which is why i considered getting entire card
asciilifeform: phf: i already have a logic analyzer, but would have to get it attaches to the pins on that thing
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 00:13 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 16:49 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i was thinking' of buying that 'ivory' and making a signal interposer . any idea whether the magic cpu was soldered down, or LIF socketed..?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-13#1626568 << pretty much entire board is socketed, definitely the case for ivory
a111: Logged on 2017-03-18 14:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628912 << whoever it was, he has problems paying, apparently, i bid on the 'macivory' and ended up getting '2nd chance offer, high bidder didn't pay' from seller
asciilifeform got the ref
shinohai: Nice Japanese pron you found there ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: in other animal abuse: https://68.media.tumblr.com/2eb26f208aae5aac32c073c00c69bbf5/tumblr_nry1bnZ8Ug1rlcp5ro1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: which naturally includes the at least 4 known wholly-colliding hashes
mircea_popescu bows out of this discussion lest he fucks up the laboratory glass.
ben_vulpes: the methodology i recall was 'for each tx, take top 32 bits, use as index into array, increment byte at offset"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-18 14:20 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628909 << didja save the full colliding txids, ben_vulpes ?
mircea_popescu: more like, the usg is under the pressure to appear to be doing something, has settled on "chipping", ie, o noes if an eth splits off bitcoin that'll be bad for bitcoin!!!1
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit: '"However, none of the undersigned can list BTU unless we can run both [blockchains] independently without incident. Consequently, we insist that the Bitcoin Unlimited community (or any other consensus breaking implementation) build in strong two-way replay protection," the group said. "Failure to do so will impede our ability to preserve BTU for customers and will either delay or outright preclude the listing of BTU."'
mircea_popescu: i know that out of the past 1mn i traded, 0% was on an exchange.
mircea_popescu: eh, "nearly 20 exchanges", wut. "exchange" idiots have managed to trade the 2012 situation, where they had gone from 0 to almost 50% of bitcoin trading for a slow and agonizing death. i'd be surprised if all of them (which within 90% is the first two) actually cover 10% of bitcoin for fiat trade.
asciilifeform: speaking of schisms in heathendom, https://archive.is/WplLL >> 'A group of nearly 20 exchanges has released contingency plans in the event that the bitcoin network splits in two, creating two competing currencies. The exchanges are now planning to list Bitcoin Unlimited (BU) as they would an alternative cryptocurrency...'
mircea_popescu: in other not news, argentine reds are fucking fabulous omfg.
mircea_popescu: plus they got into an argument over the carpeting color in 1956 and split the congregation.
mircea_popescu: absolutely no conceivable reason outside of some jolene or other needing to feel special.
mircea_popescu: why do the 5000 bs "christian" us sects exist ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't see what the point for deeds is ?!
mircea_popescu: anywya, the reason i linked it is because obviously the ~whole space readily reduces to "what a number of people understood and remembered of what they at some point read on #trilema"
asciilifeform: i can see how it could exist, but not what the point is
mircea_popescu: l0 is verified by the bitcoin network as part of its functioning. l1 can be verified by anyone with a full blockchain.
mircea_popescu: ie, they're not on-chain but once-removed.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628934 << what were l0/l1 in the context? looks like i've fallen behind in altcoinology
a111: Logged on 2017-03-18 05:56 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627436 << i saw a few 2's scroll by while writing the index to disk, i'm going to spend some time staring at it myself and then share it around
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628909 << didja save the full colliding txids, ben_vulpes ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628912 << whoever it was, he has problems paying, apparently, i bid on the 'macivory' and ended up getting '2nd chance offer, high bidder didn't pay' from seller
mircea_popescu: add to this that there's a long list of such must-know (o hey, bought new house in so and so zone ? does it have a basement ? here's your geiger counter. what do you mean you don't understand ? atten-hut! nobody asked you what you understand, and it'll be 49.95
mircea_popescu: so it stands entirely unrevisable : either you understand it or not ; whether you want it or not : here's your shot. tyranny.
mircea_popescu: tyranny, exactly. "do this or die." that's the definition. and it's not yielding : if the wife/husband have the intellectual wherewithal to understand the whys and wherefores, fine, and bully for them. but if they do not -- it isn't thereby going away, lol.
mircea_popescu: this is, of course, also the natural basis for tyranny. it's nice and good to have independent agents, but there must be some sort of authority which tells them "hey, you're rh-, your husband rh+, you're seven months in, here's your rh antigen shot." this authority may be the wife, may be the husband, but if it's neither of them it'll have to be something outside, and if it is what do you call it ?
mircea_popescu: (hydrops fetalis / rhesus disease crumbs the rh thing)
mircea_popescu: but what this means, obviously, taking the converse... is that there's a lot there than meets the eye. which is the point.
mircea_popescu: which is WHY the "dun fuck your sister" thing is such a huge taboo : a) it will kill you and b) you won't notice. that's the problem with these boiled frogs scenarios, from carbon monoxide poisoning to sibling conception to etc : you got no warning bells connected to THIS failure mode.
mircea_popescu: the problem, however, is that under the skin-deep "kid is fine", his passive genetics have seriously weakened. if he lives as part of a larger population that does this, a few generations down the road genetic decay manifests and there's literally no hope -- the population will either move to exogamy or die out.
mircea_popescu: oimmunity against either current fetus or, even more perverse, against the NEXT. girl has kid fine, but also prepares herself to murder next horribly. nature is FULL of such traps.)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 14:21 trinque: hm, if so the thing falls apart
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628783 << to briefly revisit : contrary to what general public might expect (tm), if brother and sister conceive together the result is going to be a perfectly fine baby by any standards. yes it's possible they spawn a monster, but not likely, and moreover this is possible anyway. (for instance : rh negative women (but not positive) impregnated by rh positive man can and often do develop aut
Framedragger: (also due to modern out-of-order execution in cpu pipelines, may need to force all commands before the rdtsc call to be 'flushed', i.e. to have completed before the counter instruction is called; just noting for self)
Framedragger: (okay apparently if your cpu supports 'constant_tsc' (as seen in cpuinfo) then this timestamp counter actually counts time and not processor ticks which is a *good thing* given freq scaling etc.; this is available in all new intel processors; what a rabbit hole, man)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-15 16:27 Framedragger: did you already have a chance to check if there are any tx collisions in the 32 bit address scheme? just curious
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627436 << i saw a few 2's scroll by while writing the index to disk, i'm going to spend some time staring at it myself and then share it around
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm probably doing sth wrong but now one of the two replies i just posted is marked as awaiting moderation and the other doesn't; sorry if i broke some bytes
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628894 timestamped 01:33 whereas https://archive.is/dlUoc timestamped 01:47 shows it as "11 minutes ago". teh alphabets got some new servers or what.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 22:42 jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Proverbs 5:19 :: Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.
mircea_popescu: there's about 6-700k "career" dorks who won't be making their mortage payments this year.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the list is not even 1/3 as published. more like 1/4
mircea_popescu: Woodrow Wilson International Center << bwhahaha. i can hear the shocked butt tears of career middle aged wiminz from here. fuck you bitchez, shoulda learn to twerk when you had the chance. now go die in darkness. "bureaucracy career" my foot.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628859 << dies where it fucking belongs, with the rats.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 21:18 pete_dushenski: sadly, the whole 'apres-ski' culture has declined considerably since the 70s, at least around these parts. used to be that hawties with rich papas would show up at the hill, decked out to the 9s and with $500 boots over their shoulder, and just chill and drink in the chalet all day
pete_dushenski: in animals as in men, "March 16 (UPI) -- A Moscow petting zoo is suing the advertising company that rented a raccoon, saying it was used in an "erotic" shoot with a nude model and now the raccoon is obsessed with women's breasts."
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Proverbs 5:19 :: Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell mod6 all the pherkin tests looked good, even when I intentionally muddle the press.
trinque: lol, in fact, isn't it whores that focus on the value proposition!? (I kid)
trinque: turns out they shipped human males with this giant "yes" lever
trinque: so sex is not meant to feel good? the fuck?
pete_dushenski: in other patriots, gen david perkins brags about $3mn missile being used to kill $200 quadcopter http://archive.is/eBheq
pete_dushenski: in other slips and falls, here's an exhaustive list of all the programs / agencies set to be cut down to size in the trumpreich : http://archive.is/GxHR5
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 13:18 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski seems to be missing out on the 1 and only plus of having just 1 gurl : losing the plastic bag
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628693 << i didn't know that there were ~any~ plusses to having just one girl. now i do!
pete_dushenski has never skiied in switzerland or italy, can't speak to liveliness of apres-ski culture there
pete_dushenski: sadly, the whole 'apres-ski' culture has declined considerably since the 70s, at least around these parts. used to be that hawties with rich papas would show up at the hill, decked out to the 9s and with $500 boots over their shoulder, and just chill and drink in the chalet all day
pete_dushenski: mod6: mega-hawt! ski boots complete the pkg
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 13:13 asciilifeform: btw pete_dushenski, 'Even with the pill, that forsaken shaman of working woman bondage, the effectiveness is only ~90%.' << this is a lulzy stat, because it lumps in not only user error but outright sabotage
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628688 << lulzy, yes, but also besides the point! point is magnitude of consequence. duh. even 2% chance nuts imo.
mod6: it's either your knees or ass.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628641 >> snowboarding encourages this kind of flat ass falling. no wonder i'm noticing more girlies in 20s and 30s switching ~back~ to two planks after two decades of keeping up with the cool kids (who incidentally aren't cool anymore)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 07:20 diana_coman: hm, the first thing I purposefully learnt when on skis was...how to fall; as in: how to fall *without* breaking anything etc
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628632 << this is a good point actually. falling ~intentionally~ is exceedingly valuable. please to forgive my lack of qualifier in the article. I learned to ski when i was 3 and certainly can't remember those early learning days!
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 06:06 trinque: well yeah, but a) they're fucking uncomfortable and b) see A.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628622 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628630 << you guys must've spent too much time together in portland. "gimme muh comfuurt!" an unexpected angle to be sure. can't say i quite agree as to the supreme value of wearing silk underwear on the daily.
pete_dushenski: well that was a healthy bit of condom/helmet debate wasn't it. and yet not a single comment on the article! for shame.
asciilifeform: the rest -- monday, tuesday, of next wk.
mircea_popescu: all they did were some reflectivity experiments, from what i gather. not really enough to put current through
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform talking about exotic plasmas : didja see they finally made metallic H ?
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as degenerate matter (term of art, look it up) in any pea.
mircea_popescu: large items are hard for the brain to grasp, but it makes a fucking difference if it's pea sized or black hole sized. not SIMPLY because "oh, can't lift it", but because the universe does not scale liniarily.
mircea_popescu: the problem most people fail to even vaguely in the zone represent is ticked in http://trilema.com/2015/the-genetics-of-intelligence/ : to wit, the IMMENSITY of the genetic space.
trinque: http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ << puts this in perspective. only solution appears to involve getting out of the way of the shuffling, healthy amount of production, judicious filter
mircea_popescu: there's numerous examples of this, mares who produced n foals of which the only ones worth a shit they had with $nobody. and all the champs sired junk out of her.
mircea_popescu: and there's also complicated and poorly understood problems of fit. it CAN be the case that A+B have horrible children together notwithstanding A and B would be excellent mates for others. this shows up in, eg, horse husbandry all the time -- foal of mare fallen to $random often outperforms foal of same mare with champions.
mircea_popescu: this single-agent reproduction model is flawed. there's n generations involved in the process.
asciilifeform: recall the anecdote re w. shockley's 'genius spermbank' calling feynman ? him: 'whatcha bothering ~me~ for, talk to my father'
mircea_popescu: it's true he has much bigger chances of having a sub-marginal AVERAGE. but if you're discussing exceptional, you're not sensibly better than him at siring the next genius.
asciilifeform: 'regression to the mean' (tm)
trinque: hm, if so the thing falls apart
mircea_popescu: this is not correct. the chances of you and unsterile mongoloid of having cook kid are about the same.
mircea_popescu: trinque re reproduction : i understand what you're saying, but it's a broken view of human congenital effects. you're thinking "hey, genes are A-Z, types A1 to A9 and so following, sorted by quality. therefore, if guy with A1B2C1...Z2 etc is not fucking, all those yummy low digit genes will not be pumped into wombs, instead kids will be A9B8 etc".
mircea_popescu: well it depends on the girls and etc.
trinque: as for the pills, I've seen more than a handful of girls get very boring on them, some with symptoms like constipation even.
mircea_popescu: the sad thing about war is that it's so sensitive to inflation. ancient civilisations in the middle east got wiped when some dorks with young monkey printing press showed up. the whole german world collapsed under the onslaught of a short corsican "emperor" who was paying his armies in promises rather than gold. etc.
trinque: which seems to ~their detriment
trinque: idea was that petey (and many others) may be going around not sharing the spooge of the elite with teh common wimmins