asciilifeform: trinque: to put it in context, we're speaking of roughly 1990, and the smouldering thermonuke crater where the folx who 'built from first principles' (symbolics) used to be , was still smoking
trinque: point was in each case the design is biased *away*
asciilifeform: trinque: erlang wasn't simply about 'uptime', or even 'no pointer arithmetic', it also was the only case i know of where process migration actually worked
asciilifeform: well they ~were~ 'best days', it was a thing that they could not, in thousand years, produce
mircea_popescu: idiots without a culture and without a history. "we found that lantern in the woods, and boy, those were the best days of chuka life!!1"
asciilifeform: but if you scratch off the savage ochre paint etc. you can see '1958' stamped on the steel.
asciilifeform: affixing all sorts of irrelevant 'shit bolted to the side'.
asciilifeform: they keep finding the same flashlight ('don't use promiscuous pointers and type casts') and repaint it in various tribal colours.
asciilifeform: currently 'rust' et al. decade ago -- haskell. prior -- the java people.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the chukchas keep finding the same flashlight in the woods, again and again and again
mircea_popescu: ^ that's a decent doctoral thesis you just titled.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: sorta funny bit, actually, the original, THIN, book, is ~unobtainable;
asciilifeform not an erlang user. but did read the 1990 b00k from ericsson.
mircea_popescu: well ok then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 1st one, funnily, was in... prolog! 2nd -- erlang.
mircea_popescu: in principle anything that can be run can be compiled, this isn't a matter. the question to you alf is, that "actual optimizing compiler, like gcc", is it WRITTEN IN ERLANG ?
asciilifeform: trinque: if you weld wings to a trabant, it could, theoretically, take off. does not make 'airplane'.
mircea_popescu: then perhaps i am mistaken and indeed it doesn't belong in that list.
asciilifeform: (and several other archs.)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 15:28 mircea_popescu: there's no utility involved. suburban ustard wears item because of ~how it makes her feel~ to ~be seen~ as ~being one of the~ rather than any use.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will also nitpick : 'erlang' does not belong in the list, it was a 1980s product that worked quite well in its industrial niche (large telco switches) but was later stolen and used as a totem by the folx from yesterday's thread ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633873 )
trinque: no such thing as a "rust machine" or "golang machine" but lets not dwell on the fact that there's a machine down there too long.
trinque: the social commentary regards creatures who are addicted to pats on the head. whatever the supposed technical merits of the thing, they are not what guys like the one in that thread care about.
trinque: asciilifeform: as I understand it, which is at a distance, they added an extra type system, concurrency tools, and memory management for phree, and decided this needed its own syntax
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:04 mircea_popescu: i'm not saying "rust is bad mmkay". i couldn't care less, there's been tons of "new languages" fulfilling the need of people to "revolutionize". they all work, exactly in the way custom pliers work.
trinque: that the guy was an SJW is not unrelated
trinque: they like it because it's like mother telling them they followed all the rules, and didn't even have to think about it.
trinque: nah, I don't write the stuff. just was subjected to some fat idiot prattling on about rust one night
shinohai thinks the term "corrode" is appropriate ....
mircea_popescu: there's MORE work to do with automation, not less.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why they imagine this. in point of fact the system that delivers milk in a bottle so they don't have to milk their own cow is MORE complex, not less.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is how they think.
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'rust' link simply gotta be a parody
mircea_popescu: anyway, fucking tard. "my name is mircea_popescu ; i've been using chairs pretty much every day since the late 70s, and recently i started getting involved in this fantastic chair community"
mircea_popescu: i'm not buying custom pliers, and the pretense of the custom plier fans that their custom pliers ain't custom but standard is uninteresting.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying "rust is bad mmkay". i couldn't care less, there's been tons of "new languages" fulfilling the need of people to "revolutionize". they all work, exactly in the way custom pliers work.
Framedragger: for posterity, rust does have things like raw pointers (and no gc), etc.; but the kommunity around it is at this point perhaps ~insufferable, much like the javascript hipster legions. which is not a point to be ignored
mircea_popescu: fucking decay of idiocy, they want to turn the nodes-notnodes binome into fullnodes-nodes ? if you don't verify blocks you're not a node, if you can't program the machine it's not a language etc. holy shit.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, when the fuck did a COMPUTER LANGUAGE, ie, a language you can program the machine in, become a "systems language" ? why, to make room for javascript being a language ? it ain't a fucking language, it's a scripting language which means jack-all.
mircea_popescu: they're mentally retarded, there's no two ways about it. people who are in their 20s/30s today and were parented by the idiots and imbeciles in their 40s and 50s and 60s are simply and irretrievably retarded.
mircea_popescu: " My name is Joel Jacobson. Ive been using PostgreSQL almost every day since 2002. Recently, I started getting involved in the community around this fantastic RDBMS."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-30#1634660 << "My motivation is primarily I don't want to learn all the over-complicated details of C, but at the same time I would like to be productive in a safe system language, a category in which Rust seems to be alone."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-30#1634635 << yes, but volga also went about 10 miles on the gas toyota does the full 100.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 03:54 asciilifeform: the hypothetical subj would look something like a t34
pete_dushenski: you probably already know this but it's awfully hard to take your 'snore this' and 'kindergarten that' seriously when you move the goalposts so. but it's still fun trying to pin the lubed eel, don't get me wrong.
asciilifeform: 'inexpensive after you kill the shysters who supplied the defective false alternatives'
pete_dushenski: not cheap because leveraged resources of two world war winning titans of industry and their very concerted efforts to placate masses. today, bits on facesnap suffice.
pete_dushenski: there aren't enough alfs on this rock for cheap ironmobiles with 'all 3'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: whole point would be to piss on the fashionista faggotry and get a cheap, practical, repairable (yes, they lied to you, CAN have all 3) machine.
asciilifeform: but you get the idea.
pete_dushenski: in other sanities, having a business dispute ? don't look to the fiat bureacracy for help http://archive.is/AHtKB ("In Brooklyn’s Kosher Pizza War, Modern Tastes Battle Ancient Law")
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 06:33 mircea_popescu: "we represent the whole world*!!!" * as understood by whatever 3rd echelon bureaucrat in the us dept of our democracy that "handles" "canada".
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633653 << heh. exactly this. i thought these kids and their 'bitcoin embassy' died in 2013. apparently still around doing who knows the fuck what. having 'meetups' with increasingly aged and decrepit demographics no doubt.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634483 << ubercheap lease rates are actually predicated on absurdly high residuals and so are resulting in cars that are losing only 40% after 3 years. this is a bigger problem in the states than, say, uk. but still an increasingly noticeable phenomenon for manufacturers and dealers to prop up new sales figures in the face of a secular decline in interest.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and then re-flatten old one - with hammer, on anvil. << Oh, there's the catch
mircea_popescu: https://www.hdevalence.ca/blog/2016-05-28-capitalism-and-arithmetic-and-casting-out-nines << item that convinces the wise curve25519 is utterly unsafe.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 23:38 CompanionCube: why would you want to to the *UK* for that
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634535 << because he lived off the overgenerous uk dole his entire life.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-12 19:24 mircea_popescu: as someone once said, "their tricks work for them only a short distance of their run, and for us the whole run."
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 23:32 ben_vulpes: and in other wonders of "ai": http://boingboing.net/2017/03/29/countermeasures-are-a-thing.html
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 23:13 asciilifeform: ( speaking even strictly of technologies, not even touching on subjs such as children free to walk around on their own, to make explosives, etc )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634495 << to be beaten into a pulp for being the obnoxious sort of fag who'd bitch at djb about someone touching him / listen to depeche mode / etcetera...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634483 << boats actually GAIN value in about 1/3 of their years.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 23:05 asciilifeform: and then re-flatten old one - with hammer, on anvil.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 22:15 asciilifeform: but there was that old mircea_popescu thread. where, approx, 'a dollar usg collects from mr.pleb in tax isn't so that usg can spend a dollar, it can spend $trillion, or ten, without collecting anything; it collects the dollar because otherwise mr.pleb will use it to bid up turkeys'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 22:02 ben_vulpes: phf: not ideological, financial! you can hedge against devaluation. what is the hedge against moar taxes?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634411 << this is a lulzy notion. if you could hedge against such a wonder, the lido'd still be a thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634383 << i lollered. ftr, baroul suceava = the bar association of suceava county.
trinque: I'd thought that perhaps coke machines are what patrol looking for folks outside their VR wombs.
asciilifeform: 'TTC delays launch of anti-harassment app The "Safe TTC" app will allow passengers to report harassment, assault, vandalism, and other offences.' << from same rag..
phf: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/03/28/new-toronto-institute-aims-to-be-worldwide-supplier-of-artificial-intelligence-capability.html
a111: Logged on 2015-09-25 20:10 ascii_field: this is precisely the condition needed for the coke machine
asciilifeform: nobody's even counting the de-facto lifers who won't give password to inquisitor.
CompanionCube: fuck, even the US'd be a better place. There there isn't a law that literally states you must disclose encryption keys on-demand.
CompanionCube: why would you want to to the *UK* for that
asciilifeform: 'And Taaki began to believe that returning to the UK and completing Dark Wallet’s development would allow him to help Rojava better use bitcoin as a fundraising tool, one that would circumvent the US and EU sanctions that prevent any funds from being transferred into Syria.' << wat.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-26 17:20 ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
ben_vulpes: and in other wonders of "ai": http://boingboing.net/2017/03/29/countermeasures-are-a-thing.html
ben_vulpes: girl who said she'd get him reassigned bought the farm
asciilifeform: wasn't that the whole point, of joining.
asciilifeform: ain't the kurd army supposed to have chix in it
phf: aka where the white women at
ben_vulpes: "found the west calling to him"
asciilifeform: srsly, once you made it out of monkeystan, found work (soldiering is honest work), whythefuck COME BACK omfg
ben_vulpes: definitely some amount of "no leaving the states, pleb" in action, sure
ben_vulpes: "When Taaki reached the camp on the Syrian side of the border, he says, he tried to explain to the elderly officer in charge that heâd come to Rojava to offer his tech skills in one of Rojavaâs cities, not to fight. But as Taaki tells it, the man waved away his protests and conscripted him into a unit with the other foreigners."
ben_vulpes: silly me, i thought the movie was called "nostalgatron from home planet"
asciilifeform: iirc the boy drank to death in '90s.
asciilifeform: ( speaking even strictly of technologies, not even touching on subjs such as children free to walk around on their own, to make explosives, etc )
asciilifeform: su 'everyday' good, that's either unknown -- or banned -- in 'free' world.
asciilifeform: there's also, e.g.,
phf: everything down to the engine
phf: ben_vulpes: that was my zaporozhets comment. ultimate piece of shit car, with the main perk: can be repaired in a shortages economy
asciilifeform: like a motherfucking bumper ought to be.
asciilifeform: or, say, where the bumper is OF RUBBER
asciilifeform: and then re-flatten old one - with hammer, on anvil.
asciilifeform: there were aluminum ones, pieces'o'shit, aha, i have one even here
phf: ben_vulpes: nah it was a piece of shit. i got one from walmart and it's pretty good. advantage though was that you could repair it for years, and since there was only ~one~ type, you could also replace parts for years, etc.
ben_vulpes: i imagine there's some "oh no, you couldn't possibly imagine the superiority of the su raskladushka" inbound
ben_vulpes: army surplus thing, was amazing until i handled it roughly packing up from a burn and bent one of the struts.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people want is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
phf: imo the problem is not the chosen product, but the mechanism by which the choice was made (and is continously remade in many micro instances)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: another thing you dun need in vinylon...
ben_vulpes: are y'all going to just skip right over the anti-combustible chemicals with which nearly every new thing is impregnated these days?
asciilifeform: right now we have, de facto, opposite, 'man's coat is made from same faux silk gurl's panties are made from', 'so what if it melts into your skin in a fire', 'so what if sunlight dissolves it, so much the better for AmerikaGreatAgain'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 03:39 asciilifeform: phunphakt : the only synthetic cloth fiber that isn't shit ( as, e.g., nylon : flammable, melts on skin, crumbling under sunlight, etc ) is made in... north kr! >> https://fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/facility/industry38.htm
phf: i still think that the reason is that there are no lizards in a recognizable form (i.e. the 1984, hugo boss clad), it's all a chomsky style dependency graph, and the complexity so high, micro level so varied, that nobody can make sense of it
asciilifeform: ( modern lizards, i picture, understood -- correctly -- that if these bovines didn't take to arms and burn down the capital when crops were burned in the '30s -- they certainly won't revolt today. )
asciilifeform: in '30s usa -- they burned crops.
asciilifeform: ( in '90s ru, rumours of massive warehouses where cheese rotted, milk soured, meat fed maggots -- proliferated. and i'm quite convinced they are not baseless. )
asciilifeform: perhaps on the rare occasions someone buys -- they get one of the 1-2 units in the bldg that has'em
asciilifeform: every time i walk by these, i wonder if they even have plumbing fixtures, mains sockets, etc
asciilifeform: and they still 'cost' 400-700k usd , even when 1000s stand dark.
asciilifeform: re shortages, lulzy trend in washington region of building block after block after block of cardboard condo towers ~which then stand dark, for years on end~ continues
phf: i don't think aspirin though is a good example, because "obviously" there aren't any aspirin shortages. likewise there are obviously no housing shortages, doctor shortages, etc. etc.
phf: it's the diff between bezzle and tide. tax increase happens in sync with devaluation because otherwise you discover that there's not enough aspirin.
asciilifeform: but there was that old mircea_popescu thread. where, approx, 'a dollar usg collects from mr.pleb in tax isn't so that usg can spend a dollar, it can spend $trillion, or ten, without collecting anything; it collects the dollar because otherwise mr.pleb will use it to bid up turkeys'
phf: ben_vulpes: if your hendging against devaluation happens in bezzle terms, but your more tax is the "guberment done it", than this distinction makes sense. i don't think that in reality more tax just happens, it's a process by which devaluation graph gets readjusted
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1634099 << There are many kinds of faux granite from inkjet printed plastic to rocks and resin simulation
ben_vulpes: phf: not ideological, financial! you can hedge against devaluation. what is the hedge against moar taxes?
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm sure there's some ideological angle where two are not the same, but from where i sit...
asciilifeform: they still charge tax, it simply gets rolled into electric bill, etc.
ben_vulpes: dilution of the dollar to pay for encampment of takers i'm hedged against
phf: the obamacare strategy
asciilifeform: ( the other funny detail, it certainly ain't ~everyone~ who'd get payola. certainly not dirty kulaks. )
asciilifeform: the 'let's give EVERYBODY $income' thing goes beyond mere retardation; make the folx who play lotteries, and even pyramids, look brilliant. at least ~somebody~ wins, in a pyramid
ben_vulpes: there are conditions beyond "being black"
ben_vulpes: nah, not the same at all
ben_vulpes: giant towers with water, calories and internet piped directly to the basics
asciilifeform: and 'end to end encryption' crapolade, and other mandatory pravda
CompanionCube: found in the DOM: '<script charset="UTF-8" src="https://cdn-static-1.medium.com/_/fp/gen-js/main-base.bundle.a2iyA8Q63Pk153QZP5oV8A.js" async=""></script>'
CompanionCube: because I was saying that it either was or is a deliberate clone
asciilifeform: http://188.27.236.125/haisa.ro >> 'e to thee, Osiris, Lord of eternity, King of the Gods, whose names are manifold, whose forms are holy, thou being of hidden form in the temples, whose Ka is holy. ...'
ben_vulpes: "software developers must save our privacy" and other such nonsense
CompanionCube hasn't used tincd as a VPN-to-the-internet, only as a virtual LAN equivalent.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: frightening heathen pit, btw, that site.
phf: i suspect back in the day it allowed vendors to optimize for usage patterns. "unlimited traffic vpn" vs running it on a tightly metered box
CompanionCube: nope, but from their perspective it may as well be. Not that I'd agree though.
CompanionCube: asciilifeform: presumably because they are too lazy for that
ben_vulpes: why hands when mathematica lets you do it with arse!
ben_vulpes: in other non-solutions: https://journal.standardnotes.org/vpns-are-absolutely-a-solution-to-a-policy-problem-3b88af699bcd
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 20:47 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632355 << orlol discussed this, and it was 100% true, 'homo americanus' has some very serious damage that is very expensive to build prosthesis for -- he has no family , no friends, no one will lend him money other than at extortionate rates, has no one alive whom he could live with in small hut, 5 to 10 sq. metres, without killing one another
mircea_popescu: by now there's just too many of these small and "in itself defensible" idiocies piled up.
asciilifeform: i have said this before, but everyday life in usa makes the good doktor mengele's stitch-his-head-to-his-arse look like harmless hobby
mircea_popescu: (3rd order : the best fungicide is... bacteria. the best antiseptic is... bacteria. that's why your skin stays healthy -- you are covered by your friends.)
mircea_popescu: 2nd and 3rd order effects are even more important than the direct
mircea_popescu: much like opting to have a natural compost pile in a shady spot in the garden instead of fertilizer and "modern our democracy" will result in a much better ecosystem, with birds and earthworms and so on ; just like a good cheese and yogurt diet rather than taking peptobismol will result in a happier digestion ; just so havinga house full of linens rather than nylons will result in a much happier overal environment to live in,
ben_vulpes: heh and this ocmpounds, because now your kids don't have an immune system because your surfaces are overcolonized (and with the most ahistorical of populations at that), so not only do you have to clean the stink away but also keep ~everything out of the kid's mouths.
mircea_popescu: so you're up to a certain point stuck overwashing once you buy the plastic angle.
mircea_popescu: moreover it selects for unfriendly kinds of bacteria (hence the milk example -- tho0ugh there the uht process does the selection)
mircea_popescu: all things "that stink" are your brain identifying the metabolic byproduct of bacterial life ; and knowing from experience their presence doesn't mix well with your continued existence.
asciilifeform: hound of the baskervilles.
asciilifeform: not long ago i walked to post office along different, for no good reason, path, to mail a FG, and saw the largest and most impressive dog i ever saw
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't follow the connection between the 'stinky' synthetic fabrics and the bacteria
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well you gotta keep the bacteria away.
trinque: also http://i.imgur.com/LaG8aNd.gif vs https://thesciencedog.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/baby-sitting-on-dog.jpg
ben_vulpes: or is this in re the fragrance obsession
mircea_popescu: this is up to a point unavoidable -- the cheaper synthetics they use, especially fibers, stink.
ben_vulpes: moreover one large reason americans are so sick is a dangerous obsession with the sterile living environment.
mircea_popescu: he has a point though, there's good reason kids should be raised with puppies not kittenbs.
ben_vulpes: trinque: there is poop everywhere
trinque: oh god, the regular extended cab is bad enough.
trinque: read: lol there is poop in my mouth
trinque: "maybe you're the mini cooper type..."
ben_vulpes: i don't find any of you funny either
mircea_popescu: dog-pets work fine for 5 to maybe 11 or 12yo boys, but this mostly because the kid will pull its ears etc.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes notrly. i mean i dunno, to my eyes the whole "dog as pet" thing is kinda inept. get a hunting dog, go hunting with it, suddenly it's a lot more respectable an animal.
ben_vulpes: but also those are just the canine behaviors, neh?
ben_vulpes: chewing the /male/ though...
ben_vulpes: no chewing the mail though
ben_vulpes: shinohai: honestly the only canine behaviors i really want are "sit" and "shut up"
trinque: corvette activites are meant to be done on the hood
mircea_popescu: 's teh problem, he can just turn part of the corvette into an office!
phf: i sort of assume that people who quit job to be with family look and act like derek ireland at the end of one of his yoga videos
ben_vulpes: hey just because i fired everyone doesn't mean i'm not wandering around naked in the cavernous echo chamber of my own delusion every day
ben_vulpes: and to continue the thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633564 , https://68.media.tumblr.com/23040c080667cf8e80427caf495cb435/tumblr_oge2frqsL81ve4x7to1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: way ofg the windows.
mircea_popescu: vaguely recall this being discussed round the original crisis.
asciilifeform: which is not necessarily as fixable as 'fix the constant'
asciilifeform: but overall folx oughta remember mircea_popescu's observation from c3, that any attempt to reimplement ye olde grandfather's pistol from scratch, will almost certainly have at least one lethal 'accepts something the old -- would not' defect.
asciilifeform idly wonders how many folx who implemented 'btc protocol' also used 'the wrong megabyte'
asciilifeform: aaaand eventually the thing can get a correctness proof.
asciilifeform: then afterwards by fuzzing, e.g. crafting shitoshivarints that want to overrun arrays
asciilifeform: tested, btw, by taking a multitude of blocks (from eatblock), parsing'em in, then back out, and diff.
mircea_popescu: the principle is very useful, yes.
asciilifeform: (or at the very least, in ~predictably~ nonconstant time)
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack : yes, it is possible to implement ecdsa in constant space. after all, the sigs are of constant size, and the payload is maxed at 10,000Bt.
ben_vulpes: trb just looks through the script for pubkey or pubkey hash opcodes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why bother?
ben_vulpes: be ye not afraid of appearing retarded in the republic, for questions you might not ask for fear of appearing stupid turn out to illuminate all sorts of things.
asciilifeform: because gotta ~store~ them.
mircea_popescu: then why specifically mention scripts lol.
mircea_popescu: i had the idea it actually does verify sigs just not scripts.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: means 'not quite'. there is no script processing.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'nq' in 'nqb'
mircea_popescu: i would much prefer an empty kingdom. i utterly have no use of these softie surogate idiot-usian parenting types.
asciilifeform: south -- used'em, incl. the dictators
asciilifeform: north -- shot the japanese collaborationists
asciilifeform: this point actually figured quite prominently in the north vs south kr wars
asciilifeform: philosophically, the d00d who lights the match, and the one who stands and watches, are 'same' ; in practice -- different, in that if you shoot the latter, very soon your kingdom is empty
mircea_popescu: correct strategy when dealing with the empire of idiots -- hang the idiots, not their handlers.
mircea_popescu: i will certainly hang the "nice people" in preference of the poetterings. just like trump does.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not of the persuasion that poettering, ie, out and out wrecker, is in any sane sense worse than jwz, ie, "i'm just going to silently and passively enable the valence idiots".
asciilifeform: well there's 2 types, one is this, the other is when you let nsa filter the spam (google's)
Framedragger: but this is along the lines of "could be coal miner, chucking coal 18h/day". well yeah...
asciilifeform: re ' "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" ', the sad thing is that herding pigs is his ~day job~
asciilifeform: put on trilema, then he's doomed to see...
asciilifeform: not the lispm folx, not bernstein, whoever.
mircea_popescu: not for a fucking second. he is enabling the misbehaviour of 30yo children. i gotta do more work bitchlapping these idiot cunts into the ground because he buys them food and doesn't makle them pay for the shiot they break.
asciilifeform: then again apparently nobody ever answers when asciilifeform writes
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i thought he was being a bit satirical and snarky in that particular passage you quote (those two paras), from when i read it first. not that his general pose of presenting an excuse (if diligently detailed) of this kind of a good sign, of course. just that the tone is not *that* bad. (but, okay, perhaps bad enough when the piece is considered in whole.)
mircea_popescu: anyone got an email of the dork ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he "will spend significant time" to find... "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" yet he can't be bothered to figure out how deedbot works ?
mircea_popescu: i am very offended by the behavious.
mircea_popescu: suddenly he's a novelist when these grease spots are concerned
mircea_popescu: but anyway, back to the upstream : https://archive.is/9zD8D#selection-9.3336-9.4865 the whole thing is rather damaging of bernstein's own standing and credibility. he engages in this sort of behaviours, he isn't much of a man, and certainly the sordid tale of his misbehaviour disabused me of any intention of rating him on the basis of his work.
mircea_popescu: bing his floor. I want to be perfectly clear that there was nothing fun or kinky about this. I don't enjoy humiliation, and it was not a consensual part of our sex life."
mircea_popescu: "During these discussions there was a lot of gaslighting. One discussion in particular, he claimed that I had somehow deeply injured him (I don't remember what I did) and was inconsolable. I kept asking him what I could do, and finally he insisted that for him to feel better I needed to clean his floors naked. And I did it. I cried the whole time, in surreal horror. He cheered up and took photos of me, crying and naked, scrub
mircea_popescu: "I was in an abusive relationship with Jake for six months in 2009. We parted on ostensibly amicable terms and have had little contact since then. When the accusations of professional misconduct and predatory sexual behavior were made public, I believed them, not just because I value and respect the men and women who made these accusations, but also because they sounded just like him. I saw him use those same strategies years
mircea_popescu: in other "twentysomething metrosexual guys masquerading as neurotic, sexually neglected middle aged gals" news, check this shit out : http://jacobappelbaum.net/
mircea_popescu: seafood also contributes a healthy dose. especially these days.
mircea_popescu: (it's for instance one of the very few legitimate causes of cancer-from-smoking, notwithstanding the blanket nonsense spewing from ourdemocracytards.)
mircea_popescu: possibly one reason the eskimos are retarded, for instance.
mircea_popescu: i don't explain the weird.
asciilifeform: why not then , e.g., osmium.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not misguide noobs : litvenko, usg agent that got murdered by the fsb in london, was poisoned with polonium. the alpha emitter effect of the metal, while present, was not necessarily. polonium is chemically toxic, much more so than cyanide, ld50 being in the microgram range (ie 1000ths of a grain of salt).