asciilifeform: i'd also much like to hear from other FUCKGOATS users.
mod6: gonna see what those results look like... then will probably continue on and test the remainder of the fgs I've got.
mod6: not sure if I mentioned yesterday, but I did start a collection of another ~1Gb of entropy from the same fg as I wrote up the blog post about.
asciilifeform: shit however much you want on su, but their card were ~eternal~ -- in the sense of being repairable, theoretically for ever, and with common 20th c. tooling.
asciilifeform: from magically-unfixable ('this is the 7th replacement engine comp and now they last 2 hours only') boojums.
asciilifeform knows several people who ended up throwing one out either ~immediately after, or even prior to, the expiration of the magic 5y timer.
a111: Logged on 2014-05-26 21:42 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reminds me of a time when i stowed some stuff in plastic garbage bags, then discovered they were... biodegradable. turned to astonishing quantity of dust. when vacuuming old flat, found fragments - years after the fact.
asciilifeform: and if rats won't chew through the 400$ soy wires, the engine comp will auto-destruct ( sop in obummer-era units ) in 5y
asciilifeform: 'Some newer model cars use materials like soy that are more biodegradable than plastics. It's all part of an effort to make car parts more environmentally-friendly. A Volvo service representative at a Volvo dealer in Michigan confirmed some instances of chewed wires, though they "mostly occurred in rural areas -- not cities." A Volvo spokesperson said that an "initial investigation [into the subject] did not return any substantive info
ben_vulpes: craigslist for the maga demo?
asciilifeform: the postgresql nonsense is infuriating.
asciilifeform: we have perfectly good elections here of the presorted 70y.o's. just like in the other su.
asciilifeform: 'I don't know what happened to Trump. Some muse he may be drugged and we would never know it and it makes sense. The world watched this man for two years to election day. And after Jan 20th, we watched him proceed immediately to walk his talk. Then... in like 24hrs... a full 180. If not drugs and mind control, there is always the secret grassy knoll footage of Kennedy's head being blown off to help Trump "get the message."'
asciilifeform: from comment section : 'Watch the clip again. Watch her stand there against that wall. You can see she is thinking for the first time in her adult life about REALITY, not the fantasy she has been dreaming her life was all about.'
asciilifeform: ( though quiet air rifle might work. still quite a bit like squashing individual ants, to control ant problem. 99% of the time the beasts aren't in the open air, where one might draw a bead on them )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you do not wish to travel to civilized lands in search of barncat other things squirrels hate include OC spray and .22 LR
BingoBoingo: First rule of barn cat is you feed them well so that they do not try to ration their murder in instead recreate in their death skills
BingoBoingo: Common theme of "ode to barn cat" postings is week after mourning presumed loss of barncat, barn cat returns from spec ops mission of murder
asciilifeform: i've never even seen these fat hogs, climb a roof.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> these cardboard dwellings , they take heroic efforts simply to keep from coming apart. << The general movement seems to be converting the cardboard into polyurethane in place at sucker's expense
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> for instance, squirrels have dug a tunnel into my wall, it would be great if they disappeared suddenly. but they won't, will have to get specialists << THere's a version of polyurethane foam marketed for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: they are poor, of course.
mircea_popescu: but no, the country is fine. bars, open!
asciilifeform: these cardboard dwellings , they take heroic efforts simply to keep from coming apart.
asciilifeform: owner of bldg: 'get removers, then invoice'. takes forever, tho, still waiting.
asciilifeform: took me forever to even find the hole, was behind a gutter, on roof
asciilifeform: for instance, squirrels have dug a tunnel into my wall, it would be great if they disappeared suddenly. but they won't, will have to get specialists
mircea_popescu: nobody'd miss them, don't kid yourself.
mircea_popescu: what, you imagine if tomorrow there were simply a hole in the ocean where the us stood anyone'd miss them ?
asciilifeform: the chinese are reluctant partners.
mircea_popescu: so then what are you on about ?
mircea_popescu: it's also their very largest trade partner by huge margin.
asciilifeform: nobody , since the chinese built sovereigntytrons
mircea_popescu: it's funny how you don't regard the is-organized rape of the us as is-organized but you DO regard the best korea-organized famine of best korea as us organized.
asciilifeform: no shit, hungy, they only recently came out of latest usg-organized famine, 90s
mircea_popescu: my objection is that if i invited any of those girls with nice tits to my hotel room she wouldn't have sense enough to strip while walking the hallway.
asciilifeform: i especially luvvv the usual american retort 'over where they didn't let the tourist go, they have zimbabwe, ruins, zombies'. as if, e.g., baltimore, did not look like this.
mircea_popescu: including the terrible apples and all the food fixation of an evidently hungry people.
mircea_popescu: i expect this pretty much summarizes north korea altogether.
mircea_popescu: the waitresses have nice tits and terrible skirts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously now, what's with the syncrhonized glass clinking, is this one of those mass weddings or something ? scientology run event ?
mircea_popescu: i do not understand why all the girls are old ugly and dressed in this porn ?
asciilifeform: in other non-news, northkr pr0n, http://red-sovet.su/post/29932/walk-around-the-north-korean-network
mircea_popescu: i dunno, fucking with the tomb of tal'rasha
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean "if they were brilliant" or anything.
mircea_popescu: if power rangers weren't terminal fucking retards it's altogether unlikely anyone'd even know the name.
mircea_popescu: save me the fucking trouble, i'll throw a ticker tape parade.
mircea_popescu: eh, let them be the better mps, if they got the wetware. what, you think i'd object ?
mircea_popescu: well, in my apparently peculiar view "here" is a construct of thought rather than a mpapacy.
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't "princeton is tendril of XXX". the problem is "if princeton didn't suck it would have been in here."
asciilifeform: whereas anything demonstrably separate from the octopus, and that resists it, is a valuable thing.
asciilifeform: princeton is a tendril of the octopus.
mircea_popescu: the notion that random-dorks may make "their own" l1 is not unlike the proposition princeton made its own alt-world in which it is relevant and "Blockchain technologees".
mircea_popescu: that's my whole fucking point, i need another set of "oh, we have slavegirls! no they can't dance and what is this cocksucking ? BANNED BY GOD!!11" bullshit.
asciilifeform: whole point is that they are own l1.
mircea_popescu: how about we let a chechen join the wot, make it to the lordship, then he can tell us they work if they do.
asciilifeform: they work, as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: i thought you didn't think they worked.
asciilifeform: 'die for mcshitburger' ain't working out so well for the anglotards.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-16 05:36 mircea_popescu: teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want.
asciilifeform: in 18th c it was their dour churches.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-15 01:17 mircea_popescu: i expect about half are white, unsexed, males in their 30s +- 8 years.
mircea_popescu: once "doing independent thing" became watching tv (a subset thereof http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-15#1643888 are -- they're exactly IDENTICAL to middle aged women, watching their favourite tv dramas)...
mircea_popescu: it worked while they worked it.
mircea_popescu: (note that this is also exactly THE OPPOSITE of what every "nation" aims or attempts)
mircea_popescu: teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter i don't recall you being much of a "nation of ukr" either.
asciilifeform: the 19th c. 'nationbuildings' were bogus, is obvious to blind man.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm transylvanian if anything, which is an ethic group, if you must, and which has about as much to do with "romania" as say http://trilema.com/2013/the-greatest-accomplishments-of-the-french/#comment-92869
mod6: asciilifeform: aha. ok, just read about that on the `ent' page. mine was: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141730891 (error 0.00 percent).
mircea_popescu: if you're definition of a nation is a language then you're very much not talking of the same thing as in the case of best korea.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: says the d00d from whose www i learned enough ro to read , e.g., 'silver boar' hunt poem and 1,001 other cultural treasures from 'imaginary nation'
mod6: i'd like to get more familiar with the types of statistical tests from `ent` and `dieharder`.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just because the ustard is a sad excuse for monkey nation does not imply we'll now accept the turd soup of "nations" does it ?
asciilifeform: they will reliably find what one might call 'coarse errors in pilotage' of rng builder
mod6: asciilifeform: werd. anyway, it's exciting to test these.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> NOW if it happens with all of the units in mod6 's parcel, and ~every~ run -- then problem. << this is key too. i'll perhaps collect another 1Gb+ a few more times from that initial first one and report back on the ent/dh results too.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't say i personally much relish nations, but the alternative seems to be 'atomized' people who are deculturated to the point of qualifying for simian cage in zoo, and crushed by megastate like insects when needed.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the commie dorks forgot what all happened to the guys hitler's sa practiced on.
mats: some riot clips from today: when antifa tries to build a wall https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/853357068149022721 leled at beer belly guy wearing a 'captain america'-themed t shirt
mircea_popescu: can't say i'm all too keen on the nation bullshit.
asciilifeform: which is why their attempts to build cheap, effective usg navy erasers is painted as 'aggression'
asciilifeform: it is currently the only nation ( and, yes, unlike, e.g., usa, it is a nation) with industry but no mcdonalds, no riaa, and no harvard sons.
asciilifeform: which is why they've been trying to rm -rf northkr since '50s
a111: Logged on 2017-04-16 04:51 mats: what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644428 << lizards are at war with the very concept of sovereignty.
mircea_popescu: not like china believes in free market in the sense of selling you anything but the dregs.
mats: great excuse to annex a wealthy neighbor experiencing a fictitious civil war, under the pretense of martial law
mats: but the use of, say, one of those long-lost ussr suitcase nukes in uncertain circumstances, well...
mircea_popescu: if anyone "uses" one there'll be auto-allocated responsibiolity. just like in the case of assad.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, don't ask me, there's a reason i don't try to run a geostate.
mats: what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation
mircea_popescu: it ain't ever getting sold because it's more valuable as a tool to control the children than it'd ever fetch on the market.
mircea_popescu: nobody ever will. nukes are a unique item that a) doesn't work and b) everyone thinks it does. it's the exact equivalent of the "valuable inheritance".
mats: perhaps mr. trump will let a nuke off the chain
mircea_popescu: the ny strip club/grill dba "un" ?
mircea_popescu: if china decides to annex korea, both of them, who's gonna say anything ?
mircea_popescu: mats this is how the usg lost ukraine, iksn't it.
BingoBoingo: Which is why Trump needs to listen to Rush Limbaugh like real Americans do on their drive home from work.
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd rather trust a gaggle of ghana street urchins than us state to achieve anything.
mats: i have been thinking usg destabilization of dprk is a great way to jam a fork in the party's eye
BingoBoingo: The point that matters is that someone needs to make POTUS great again
mats: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/05/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-evidence-far/ a collection of osint on the subject
mircea_popescu: this is rather likely true ; if it is by far the best strategy for the terrorist state involved is to publish nothing and yak loudly.
mats: but then why not publish this evidence?
mats: i suspect it was delivered with an artillery shell rather than a rocket dropped by su-22, american radar may be able to disprove this
mircea_popescu: somehow they're also insulated from the "isn't it strange, you seerm to know what you're ostensibly not knowing" problem. through wishing they were, because that works irl!!1
mircea_popescu: mats or perhaps more properly put, "anti-known", in the sense the tards pretend not to know.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-16 03:49 asciilifeform: the 'mules' piece i read, and wondered why it does not discuss the people actually fucked by cc fraud (vendors) and instead dwells on the people not-fucked-at-all (banks)
mats: same fella is also known for debunking an earlier attribution to assad for the 2013 damascus attack, disputing israeli claims as to 90% effectiveness of the iron dome (discussed here iirc), and pissing on the effectiveness of the patriot pac-2 system in 'desert storm'
mircea_popescu: pretty much the consensus afaik.
mats: https://www.scribd.com/document/344995943/Report-by-White-House-Alleging-Proof-of-Syria-as-the-Perpetrator-of-the-Nerve-Agent-Attack-in-Khan-Shaykhun-on-April-4-2017 Prof. Ted Postol believes the current us administration is being manipulated by clever propaganda
mats: https://gregpytel.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/largest-heist-in-history.html 'This blog demonstrates that ... the financial system was turned into a pyramid scheme in a technical, legal sense'
mats: the ibuprofen hasn't done shit for me besides give me heartburn
mats: no updates re: esp8266, don't have time for it but i'll cough up the coin if someone wants to try a bulk purchase and play with one
mats: asciilifeform: sadly no. still on the five year plan.
mats: in a prior piece, the authors do mention the disproportionately large burden that small bidnesses have, as their losses aren't covered by 'Regulation E': https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/everythingYouKnow.pdf
asciilifeform: the 'mules' piece i read, and wondered why it does not discuss the people actually fucked by cc fraud (vendors) and instead dwells on the people not-fucked-at-all (banks)
mats: http://www.flownet.com/gat/jpl-lisp.html i might've seen this here, not sure: 'rise and fall of Lisp at the Jet Propulsion Lab'
asciilifeform: afaik only the last one worx
mats: i've tried sleeping supine, slathering bengay, eating ~800mg of ibuprofen, splints, setting 30min interval alarms when i needa type continuously for hours, and giving up computing after hours -- has helped
mats: https://www.tindie.com/products/WaywardGeek/infinite-noise-true-random-number-generator i have one of these and creator says whitening's built into the driver, so you could give that a shot or wait for me to do it
asciilifeform: i assume tried the traditional cures, didn't help ?
asciilifeform: ( he has the next model after asciilifeform's , looks like )
mod6: I'll test all of my other units in this same fashion too.
mod6: anyway, just wanted to be /sure/ that I wasn't getting some sort of varient test results from the dh.
mod6: I re-ran the dh on the same fg.bin file (~1.2Gb) and the 'WEAK' tests were exactly the same ones, with exactly the same output values.
asciilifeform: NOW if it happens with all of the units in mod6 's parcel, and ~every~ run -- then problem.
asciilifeform: mod6: certain % of the time, test 'weak' and , rarely, 'fail' ( simply means that author of dh decided that given result falls out of uniform distrib. range.)
mod6: So in total from the dieharder: 112 PASSED, 2 WEAK
mod6: Ima run the dieharder again as `dieharder -a -g 201 -f fg.bin`, and see if I get the same results.
mod6: # The file file_input_raw was rewound 194 times rgb_lagged_sum| 31| 1000000| 100|0.00000479| WEAK
mod6: # The file file_input_raw was rewound 118 times rgb_lagged_sum| 23| 1000000| 100|0.00063764| WEAK
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> lol the 4-5 places where dieharder reports weakness prolly need some review of dieharder code. anyone feel like emailing the maintainers ? << I should note, I hope the pics of this arn't too misleading. if you like at the actual text output, there are only 2 'WEAK' tests, which are:
diana_coman: I really enjoyed reading this account of unboxing and testing the FG; thank you, mod6
mircea_popescu: lol the 4-5 places where dieharder reports weakness prolly need some review of dieharder code. anyone feel like emailing the maintainers ?
asciilifeform: ( the difference between 'fuck around' and r&d -- is that you oughta have some notion of what you're doing; and take notes. that way, directional, ratchet, rather than brownian walk.)
mircea_popescu: and in other spuria, http://68.media.tumblr.com/be65019af60f45d5bf8612d8af5cc7b3/tumblr_n2dl4vcmgh1qmqccso1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: point of toggle, is the simplicity
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally in the same vein : everyone's probably familiar with the electronic muscle contractors from forced orgasm / workout footage. but the equivalent item excists as detector not efectuator. put on girl, fuck her, voila. "this is the key of your passion, honey."
mircea_popescu: no i mean, it copuld be in sf world the case that cocaine has K in it and nothing else does or w/e such sane reason.
asciilifeform: i imagine it'd be a bottle of cocaine and a toggle. you give cocaine to aficionado, then give him the toggle, to press.
mircea_popescu: "i'm only buying it for the articles!"
asciilifeform: the funny bit is, in usa you can generally buy, e.g., actual uranium oxide (not by the kg, but can buy, easier than, say, gunpowder.) but it'd be quite useless for ~mass~ rng.
mircea_popescu: "how to turn bed, bath and beyond into a reliable supplier of uranium pellets" by alf the beedog.
mircea_popescu: im sending the nuclear waste crew towards end of april ?
mircea_popescu: the point of life is 0 sportsmanship.
asciilifeform: the interesting q is, which pore.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i expect whoever is trying to make botnet via ssh bruteforce uses these via whatever pore ; pw changhe won't do much.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, box from which ssh bruteforce all day, http://62.75.216.148 << shows live footage from... a church, and 0 text
mircea_popescu: pretty sure if you go offline for 2-3 days google drops the listing
asciilifeform: the actual bbet no longer appearing at all -- is afaik not ancient
asciilifeform: 'BitBet is the premier Bitcoin casino, offering its players all of their favorite casino games like Blackjack, Roulette and Craps.'
asciilifeform: ( you will see non-kr brand marks, but the internals are samsung )
asciilifeform: before the koreans burn.
asciilifeform: i bet it goes great with the dying hdd bird
mircea_popescu: i have this cicada on the wall sounding exactly like my fan is going out on the wind-up phase.
asciilifeform: i went out to the swamp and tried to tell this to the frogs, the cicadas, dun seem to have worked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to round up the previous thread : do not imagine you can enact yourself through saying. that magic dun work here.
mircea_popescu: this is what the piece of paper certifies. "person is to a large degree wilfully blind to sense to satisfy imperial conventions."
ben_vulpes: i'm halfway curious about the cl it poops out
asciilifeform: ok, looks like they are there so that 1) clang can build them to llvm bytecode 2) emulator then runs same.
asciilifeform: what is 'This is a quick hack of Quake ported to the Simple DirectMedia Layer library' doing in there ?
asciilifeform: what is sdl graphics library (c) doing in there ?
doppler: they did a third demo recently
asciilifeform: where's the 'os' ben_vulpes ?
asciilifeform: in other lulznoose, 'Pennslyvania Avenue in front of the White House and Lafayette Park have been evacuated.' 'suspicious object'
asciilifeform: the one thing that is quite opaque to asciilifeform -- does somebody's head ~actually~ work like this ? or is this elaborate parody/mockery
asciilifeform: to 'verify' -- get this -- he periodically asks ~hash of the perl src~ -- because it Would Be Wrong!111 apparently, to write a proggy that sends the right hash but runs Wrong logic..
asciilifeform: they exist, presumably, for the mcfood dispensaries, the riot cops, 'professionals who deal for a living with the stinking poor' per mircea_popescu's old article
mircea_popescu: because how would they ? physical existence is racist.
mircea_popescu: which goes to prove the point. no speech, no existence.
asciilifeform: plenty of nubbinses seem to be quite all right not saying much of anything, but only sitting and metabolizing their mcfood
mircea_popescu: much like "the color red" is an ulterior construction on photon interaction
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but that's a later reinterpretation of the fgundamental "gotta say unsaid things to exist"
mircea_popescu: plenty of them emit "sdflkgkljerytuio ewaoeru oi2ew" and the spellcheker turns that into words
asciilifeform: i thought nubbinsing was a more elementary 'there are no superior men! see, this one, he's a piece of shit just like me, i'll show how'
mircea_popescu: it's what drives nubbins to nubbins, and all of these sad souls generally to wikipedia edit, quora answer etc.
mircea_popescu: for reasons of abhoring vacuum. the ethereum thing WAS ALREADY SAID, they can't count by saying it. the bitbet nonsense -- not so.
asciilifeform: it still doesn't explain why some frogs croak, others -- emit lolcats, but yet others -- faux phuctors
mircea_popescu: note, for extra lulz, that they are STILL "disagreeing" with "mp raped ethereum", no matter how well established that is. even as they are pushing the "mp stole from bitbet", no matter how ridoinculously unsupportable thart one is. why is this ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is what i currently use to epxlain random string production, like "motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-large-bitcoin-collider-is-generating-trillions-of-keys-and-breaking-into-wallets" or like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643409 or everything in between
asciilifeform: ( and notice, there is a piece re 'cryptoguru.org' but never phuctor . )
mircea_popescu: consequently, vice finds it +ev in those terms to maintain an item spuriously named "motherboard" in which to publish stuff like "the wallet collider consisting of a guy plucking wings off flies and dropping the maimed insect carcasses on his exposed glans penis."
mircea_popescu: as there's no OTHER dampener of the existence points outside of this scheme, you are guaranteed that in a flat world all the things will be said (and none of the things will be listened to)
asciilifeform: and likewise promoting the notion that bitcoin can have 'rightful owner' who differs from the keyholder.
mircea_popescu: either say something that's not in the list and get the points for existence found in the saying ; or say something already on the list, for less points.
asciilifeform: https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/trophies << quite different interpretation suggests itself -- they are 'princetonizing' the work of the 2014 folx who searched for reused nonces.
trinque: I have all the original data
mircea_popescu: given the list of all the things that have been said already (this is really a tree, but in his perspective it's flattened into a list by nulling out all the values associated with the string nodes), his choice is :
trinque: Framedragger: maybe when I fixed the data for yours a few days / week ago, I fixed it too hard
mircea_popescu: now, in this situation, random item with delusions of agency (in "our democracy" terms "a person") is stuck with the following problem :
mircea_popescu: it then follows that any speech is fundamentally equivalent to any other speech, and a volume of speech is a minimum requisite for existence at all times.
mircea_popescu: since in such a world any reasoning is conventionally impossible (as it'd enact hierarchy and bring the daddy issues they ran from in the first place front and center)
mircea_popescu: it then necessarily follows that existence is predicated not on existence but on speech.
mircea_popescu: if you build a fictious world that is flat, which is to say, the opposite of tmsr, a world in which it dun matter who your daddy is and any $random-nick can have any idea whatosever,
mircea_popescu: my theory is different. let's expound :
asciilifeform: but apparently these folx dun care.
asciilifeform: seems like they search for ripemd collisions, 'At the moment, the pool is looking for private key collisions of P2PKH addresses. We are looking only at addresses with funds on them (see below for the why) and at the moment there are around 9 million of these in use. The pool uses a probabilistic data structure called Bloom filter to do the checking for each newly generated hash160 against all of the known hash160 with funds on them.'
mircea_popescu: did we do THE jizzdoll ? http://68.media.tumblr.com/377826a655939544e74b1ac5e5960e81/tumblr_nkswicJX8o1upy7peo1_400.gif
asciilifeform: oh hey mircea_popescu , didja know that rando derp Could Be As Cool As Phuctor Even Though Never Finding Anything ? >> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-large-bitcoin-collider-is-generating-trillions-of-keys-and-breaking-into-wallets
mod6: i'll include the advanced test parts before publication.
mod6: yeah, i made a blog of all the basic results so far, complete with pics & thumbnails.
mod6: So I collected 1.2Gb worth of data from FG. Which for the Advanced test I don't think would be a problem... about to do the `ent` & `dieharder` tests.
Framedragger: ah they're not gone from e.g. mp's page (but gone from mine). anyway, no rush / low priority (!!wot gives the full thing anyway)
Framedragger: trinque: wot.deedbot.org older ratings (from #bitcoin-otc et al.) gone? they were there just before. or is this intended?
diana_coman: hm, to me it sounds more that it's a case of "this nonsense of forcing peasantry and maids and dogs and whatnots to have their own apartments dun work"
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be woods to run dogs in and maids quarters to ravish maids in and stables to roll the peasantry in the hay and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman conceivably they left because nuclear family inhibited sexual maturation.
mircea_popescu: this, of course, from an alt-world where people don't esl and mothers cook or hang.
diana_coman: this is why I said earlier: they left for the "rich opportunities" not because "I can't stand this shit!"
mircea_popescu: girl goes nuts, spends a while trying everything. nothing catches. eventually has enough of the shit, stops caring, one day burns the food.
diana_coman: the burnt thing?