asciilifeform: they merge, like a flying ace's kills.
asciilifeform: film the burn, also.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 02:17 mircea_popescu: in other random lulz, i ended up with this pair of very nice 8 carat diamonds and i've been playing with them in the light like a complete down case for the past half hour
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647294 << great lulz , you can do with these. always wanted to, e.g., burn one.
asciilifeform: grab a copy of the standard & rationale
asciilifeform: and incidentally if you ever wonder 'is this in the standard' -- grep.
mod6: maybe it's just the example that isn't mean to bean compiled.
mod6: I just watched the 3rd episode of the new season, "The Time Travelers." There's a line in there that's something like 'Steve, what will it be like after all these centuries? Are you sure? I'm sure of one thing.' '[Crow]: Bitcoin.
mod6: TomServo: also, been watching any of the new MST3K?
mircea_popescu: "you wanna sit at the grown up table talkin' movie deals ? GET SOME FUCKING MONEY! YOU GOT NOTHING IN YOUR POCKETS!!"
mircea_popescu: the "famous dr luther waxling" in scorsese's seek and destroy would be a paradigmatic example i guess.
mircea_popescu: in certain edges of the swamp there's ancient frogs of this nature, who've been chasing the same five dollah in clueless nigger spending for all their life, 30-40 years, firebranding nonsense all through. in the us they're called "senators" often enough, but the romanian word is "panarame".
mircea_popescu: the cost of keeping the story straight is an exponential function of time whereas the gains for imperials are fixed at best -- their intended audience has no intelligence or culture. consequently, every usg shill will be leaking lulz after about 6 to 9 months depending on the volume he outputs.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 14:20 asciilifeform: 'Mike Pompeo, director of the Central Intelligence Agency ... "WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service," he said in prepared remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value," Pompeo said. "He relies on the dirty work of other to make himself famous. He is a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen. "And
shinohai: A lulzy medium post on Shillbert M.O. https://medium.com/@charlescmackay/barry-silbert-and-the-cost-of-bitcoins-malfeasance-culture-f83d15ad07d1
mircea_popescu: ah right, that's the end. he's not trying to get anyone to "buy his picks", he's trying to get the lesser scammers to pay him for his supposed crystal ball publicity services. the paul graham scam.
mircea_popescu: in other random lulz, i ended up with this pair of very nice 8 carat diamonds and i've been playing with them in the light like a complete down case for the past half hour
mircea_popescu: there's that.
mircea_popescu: people still falling for the "picks" scam huh
shinohai: http://archive.is/I1CqK <<< Barry Shillbert: Buy mah shitcoin picks of the month so I can make use of all that Bitcoin ya'll don't need.
davout: the opposite would be surprising
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 20:44 mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ?
trinque: eh poorly put. while the southern civilian death toll was certainly high and under-reported, also lots of the same on the other side. at any rate, lost.
trinque: also can't deny that it wasn't the document that did anyting; the folks who wanted USGism killed more of the ones that didn't
trinque: words have meanings yes, and oughtn't need smearing of extra "no really they do" around, which immediately reminds one of OSS.
mircea_popescu: and it all comes back to should-have-beaten-the-wives, of course.
mircea_popescu: if i write "roses are red" and some douche goes "by roses he means milk, amirite ?" the failure of the douche's companions to knock him one upside the head does not translate in my having left any kind of hole in my text ; nor does it enact changing it to "roses are red and by roses we do not mean milk" into being reasonable. it's not fucking reasonable, the douche will just go "oh, by red he meant square"
mircea_popescu: the pretense that commerce clause enables washington bureaucracy is exactly like the usual fare of prison toughs. "you dropped your soap".
trinque: what a bunch of idiots, leaving such giant gaping holes in the thing.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure "the commerce clause" gives random swampocrat full authority to legislate squirrel rights.
BingoBoingo: And no, I dun believe the news fatbook picture
BingoBoingo: ^ The obeast pest problem continues
trinque: http://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/rehab/protected/ << "Unless state-listed as threatened or endangered, these animals are not protected, except under certain circumstances."
asciilifeform: turns out -- there is always moar surprise.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 23:24 asciilifeform: phun phakt: the folx i hired originally to do the pest control, not only insist on 'humane' trap, but lock them for weekend! i asked 'why?' answer 'it's the law'
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Genesis 1:28 :: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the folx i hired originally to do the pest control, not only insist on 'humane' trap, but lock them for weekend! i asked 'why?' answer 'it's the law'
asciilifeform: esp. as mine for some reason came without the safety latch ('made in korea!')
asciilifeform: yeah, them
asciilifeform: these, apparently, too clever for cage.
BingoBoingo: I have not. Prefer generic cage trap. Build a salad in there until you tempt critter.
mircea_popescu: do me a favour, read the topic.
Joshua-I: Like looking for the potential solutions
BingoBoingo: <trinque> well, where the fuck did that guy go? << Apparently customs raped
shinohai: Yeah truth be told there is no good solution rly.
mircea_popescu: it's either "website printing random numbers" or else "usg mouth piece" or else "chinese exchange that does no exchanging"
mircea_popescu: of course the question of "Change it to what" rears its ugly head. there's still no price signal in btc, no more than there was back in 2015.
jhvh1: shinohai: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid currency (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: shinohai why the fuck is it quoting bitfinex ?!
mod6: Update: Moving on to FG #2. Will collect just over 1.0 Gb and then do ent/dh tests.
mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ?
Framedragger: in which SF startups realise that hosting all infrastructure on multiple fault lines is not the greatest idea ever
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'Massive power outage hits San Francisco, shuts down businesses, BART station, cable cars, traffic lights...'
asciilifeform had a nice long walk to ps0toffice with pet, discussed the 'money as a property' vs 'hamiltons' mircea_popescuism
shinohai: Oh they are a gold mine, this one happened to be provided courtesy of a girl I did stream setup for xD
trinque: I see that I'm not the only one who reads CL personals for teh lulz
shinohai: In entertainment from mod6 's neck of the woods today: https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/cas/6098146692.html
davout: i'll be traveling for the two next weeks, but i'll ask around when coming back.
mircea_popescu: also, emily blunt is a fucking gorgon, what are all these people smoking. i'd rather watch barbara streisand gargle.
mircea_popescu: in no conceivable presentation is this a low hanging fruit. the odds of it actually being molested are lower than baseline
Framedragger currently checking ripe db etc to see how 2x4 hosts things. their dns servers are legally in seychelles.. etc.
mircea_popescu: recall, the whole "us wants base" debacle ? diego garcia ?
shinohai: asciilifeform: no I am entrenched in the Southern part of Reich unfortunately, would have to relocate to more friendly (and preferably Spanish-speaking) climes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc he moved to the pacific rimjob.
mircea_popescu: but you're people not trees, people travel for their job all the god damned fucking time.
asciilifeform: who, currently, other than mircea_popescu and hanbot meet the ground floor qualification ( physically residing outside of reich ) ?
Framedragger: (i mentioned 2x4 (russian hosting provider) above because they are known for not giving a fuck about dmca or other usg laws, and responding with "your mother" (sic) to requests to take down a hosted site which is running a botnet C&C)
mircea_popescu: the only substitute i would consider from the fiat world would be a bulletproof variant, because i will literally not deal with peons who do not at least declaratively claim to not follow usg law.
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu is discussing a hypothetical conventional dc ? not 'bulletproof' variant.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, re-re-read the line i said read insistently. you do get some boxes for vps ing out of. either because cheap or because obsolete etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. a solved instance of this problem would be me going "hey x, i want a new server for eulora, what do you got that's good and where do i send the fuckgoats" which returns within a day or two with options and quotes which i pay which results in the server being live sometime next week.
Framedragger: ack re. flow/direction of law. but re. 'no ajax', i imagine the primary service offering being an unmanaged dedicated box, in which case i'd find it reasonable to require of the isp not to peek at insides (unless external behaviour is ~spam, etc.)
mircea_popescu: i dun wanna do biz with the child fuckers.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 17:10 mircea_popescu: no, actually, it concerned an isp which, like any other isp, can't afford to actually pay a lawyer to read all the legalse spam being thrown their way. the guilty party here is the state of california, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524561
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i have nfi, but i know for a fact there's nothing in tmsr or in nature that says "person must provide impossible object in regular course of business".
davout: i'll ask around if people in my local meatwot have some experience with local DCs, don't think they'd bite
Framedragger: i'm not sure where the 'isp should not care about content' line should be in the context of tmsr.
davout: well, i'm following the conversation
mircea_popescu: so then...
mircea_popescu: other than watching horses spin around on a plate-sized island.
mircea_popescu: davout what are you doing fgor a living these days anyway ?
asciilifeform: they have life cycles, 'fresh, unknown, bulletproof', then the sp4mz0rz, virus artists, flock to it, then it 'has problems', dies. then another elsewhere is born.
asciilifeform: the 'whack-a-mole' is a part of live for folx using 'spam hosting'. and i entirely believe that mircea_popescu knows one that has been in uninterrupted business since '07. but how long do you suppose it would live if you linked to it by name here ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, dunno how far i'd trust these.
asciilifeform: decade or so ago i looked into this, and found that their www box lived in.. usa!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/N4KYf << china! as you said. though i have nfi how much of the linked info is true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might be interesting to find out where the (hilarious) northkr www is hosted.
asciilifeform: trinque: there is a fair bit of gradation between 'room 101' and harmless annoyance
asciilifeform at one time scouted far and wide for these, with a budget not far off from mircea_popescu's current
trinque: then one moves, but what's that one? daily stormer or something?
asciilifeform: trinque: nope. plenty of quite genuine 'spam isp'. problem is that they fold !
mircea_popescu: about half of all the ones i personally know (ie, middle class tech kids) ended up there this way.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. pretty much the only way independent, tech minded kid can feed himself today is to do a good job of running an isp.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's argument is not that mircea_popescu's idea is physically impossible, but that it is absent because it is -- afaik -- heavily -ev. and not because 'world is stupid'. take, say, the moving of cocaine. it involves every bit the same types of risks, but cocaine is readily available worldwide. i suspect : partly because it is a standalone physical object -- unlike net connectivity.
mircea_popescu: prolly cleannest item on a per-size basis known to the tubes.
trinque: point being whatever is being done, the host isn't doing it
mircea_popescu: trinque i seriously wouldn't expect this sort of problem. who the fuck is going to be doing that, i wish to know.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the important point here is that the elimination of attack surfaces is sure to produce vacuum packed spherical chickens. it is a necessary quality of physical existence to have attack surfaces. that's how you get laid, also.
Framedragger: btw just to note, (at least initially) large part of bitcoin revenue would have to be converted into fiat because upstream may require fiat. (sure, it'd be nice to just be able to ignore these upstreams.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform come to think of nobody, afaik there exists ONE SINGLE WEBSITE on the whole internet for the whole internet's existence that documents the "hey, check out that time usg got told to go dangle" also.
Framedragger: (this will sound cheesy but i do feel like i'm coming to this with a fiat'ish mind, by which i mean, underestimating the power of the wot. 'you trust this wot person to make good, no fine print, the end.')
mircea_popescu: huge timesavers, though, eliminating all the gunk empire idiots need to interface with each other's idiocy.
Framedragger: i do not mean 'restrictions on content' or any other inane shit. i mean response time and so on.
mircea_popescu: if one needs to read a pile of boilerplate to not be stupid, the pile of boilerplate ain't gonna help anyway.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger there is no fucking t&c.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: customer doesn't have a raid == 'well what did they expect' i guess - granted, that actually makes sense. just need to be extra clear in T&Cs...
mircea_popescu: afaik nobody has to date wrote that blog post, "hey, check out the one time some rebel threw molotov into a dc!"
asciilifeform: or lessay whole buncha disk faults, because a 'moderate rebel' 'accidentally' threw a molotov into the dc (where for some reason door was wide open)
Framedragger: there is a disk fault, say.
mircea_popescu: incident is either that there's a flood/meteor/volcano, in which case you're not needed, because dc will handle it itserlf ; or else that customer fucked up his machine, in which case he should have frucking known better and fuck him.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:42 mircea_popescu: so, to reiterate the constructive part, also found in 2015 discussion re same : a) identify some decent dcs that do good service. this may be prior knowledghe, may be proximity so you can visit poersonally od some work etc. 2) colo some gear bespoke to your larger customers, and some well priced gear you can find to vps out of 3) profit. and for the rest of your life.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: disk goes down. shit gets stolen. ddos. your isp is ~broker to the upstream, so you have to escalate.
mircea_popescu: name the incident!
asciilifeform: ( other than a pile of fiatola. which in a way is also 'hardware' )
mircea_popescu: get the gf involved, if more hands are needed send her to the lesbian club to come back with another.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ~may lead there~. which from what i gather some people want for themselves, or something.
mircea_popescu: and i can keep cycling through them till kingdom come, it's like trying to buy heroin in chicago.
mircea_popescu: trinque no but this is the problem, a full slate of lanky, ill kept 20 somethings that would be technically brilliant and have all the business sense of a dead hooker.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's concept would work, but it has 1 serious cost -- it is a 'phd assembly line', in that it -- as i understand -- more or less requires ~being a copy of mircea_popescu~ -- a 'jet-setting' d00d, travelling to orclands, negotiating with local mafias, packing up boxes onto chartered boeings in the night, etc
trinque: well, where the fuck did that guy go?
mircea_popescu: take only btc, pay your 0.1% to the republic and live happily ever after as a well respected, much sought and very productive member of the community.
trinque: both of them
trinque: asciilifeform knows this, but his only solution for diddlement is to be able to fire the thing onto a clean box quickly, and I understand the challenges there re: state.
mircea_popescu: so, to reiterate the constructive part, also found in 2015 discussion re same : a) identify some decent dcs that do good service. this may be prior knowledghe, may be proximity so you can visit poersonally od some work etc. 2) colo some gear bespoke to your larger customers, and some well priced gear you can find to vps out of 3) profit. and for the rest of your life.
Framedragger: '15k to rent for a month' is an insane way of wording. nevertheless, i learned my lesson
mircea_popescu: well what the fucxk am i going to do with it for a month, takes longer to install it. that's like giving yo ua one month employment, i recall you're on the record explainin the downside.
asciilifeform: if year -- then yes, mircea_popescu has it
mircea_popescu: i was speaking of yearly costs throughout what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: check the "paid monthly".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their 'fattest' offering seems to be a 999 eu. / mo.
mircea_popescu: and especially not when the last time we had an argument you ate your intel or what was it.
mircea_popescu: and in general don't get into fucking arguments with me about my numbers being off when i buy these weekly and you do yearly if at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform please review the https://www.cherryservers.com/bare-metal-dedicated-servers (scroll down)
asciilifeform: is the typical rate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform take cherryservers, by far one of the cheapest : 4x e5 4620 v3 is 1300 euros for a year
asciilifeform: or is mircea_popescu suggesting that hypothetical $service ~could~ charge 15k/mo and mircea_popescu would agree to this price.
Framedragger: (i of course see the point (by way of tmsr history as well) of being able to choose particular customers carefully, that is true of course)
mircea_popescu: out of the money i wasted since 2015 they could have burned 10 and i wouldn't have actually noticed the difference.
mircea_popescu: adding manpower to a project makes it later. this is eminently visible here, it is an unspeakable advantage to be able to work alone, because the "team" at ovh makes everyone dumber not smarter.
asciilifeform: and what to do after the 1st, 2nd, 3rd time that having this relation with $service ends up getting upstream (hardware owner's) iron confiscated/stolen/mysteriously burned ? where do you get new hardware upstream after this ? or does mircea_popescu picture this problem going away when you close your eyes ?
mircea_popescu: which nobody forces you to import because a) you're not a bunch of french speaking tards with barely the brainpower needed to power a chickenh and b) you're not stuck chashing the "shared and wordpress" hosting "market" composed of similarly mentally stunted individuals and their $5 yearly budget.
Framedragger: digging mahself into another hole, i see
mircea_popescu: last i checked ovh did not own the dcs.
Framedragger: a thing which at the very least has a NOC 24/7 incident response centre.
Framedragger: that's true, and i see why you're bewildered. it's just that under the description above, i only see a wot-member being an interface point with a normal-isp. i suppose you would say that 'yes and this is fine' (it's about having someone who is in wot be responsible)?
mircea_popescu: people open fucking restaurants with MAJOR investment on the basis of ~the hope~ that maybe they get the foot traffic.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of anyone with a guaranteed market this size being "oh... but the bugaboo and the tsetse fly".
mircea_popescu: alright. point remains -- we do use THIS resource in excess of any other.
trinque: mircea_popescu: in the 15-20k range across all projects
Framedragger: so just to clarify the technicalities in my mind, in your head this doesn't even imply registering for an isp as 'normally' understood (getting an autonomous system number assigned). which means you may not even be able to control reverse ip records. not a lotta.. power.. if shit goes down. which it will.
mircea_popescu: it's not a fucking telco. it rents lines and resells them to consumers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and add yet another girl nobody knows to the wot and you weirdos get to worry and wonder about her too, and then another and then another and by 2020 wot consists of mp and his friends and these weird dudes ? really, this is the plan ?
Framedragger: unless you own them and have physical access to, which exposes one to opsec + requirement to live in non-nato country, or w/e.
mircea_popescu: EVERYONE here. trinque has servers, yes ? Framedragger rents servers yes ? EVERYONE spends more on servers than on rent. there's a huge amount of money that should NOT be paid out to fucking hilary clinton's friends.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu sees this as utterly trivial, as suggested here, he could run this service himself (or with 'long hands'), corner the market, supply every spammer on planet3 .
mircea_popescu: for the past two years, since i last brought this up, guess what ? i've been paying non-wot people. because i gotta keep servers up yes.
mircea_popescu: how fucking hard is it to grasp. there's money on the table fucking pick it up already jesus god almighty it's like trying to get cs grad students to talk to girls.
Framedragger: we are, in a way, oblivious, to the *present issues at hand*, hm.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck should i buy it from anyone outside of wot ?
asciilifeform: so imho it is not accurate to say that they have solved same problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the idiots handle the enemy in the simplest way -- by dying. 'human fat powered system.'
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you said yourself that there is no bulletproof hosting. how long do public torrent sites survive? and do you think they have not tried the 'bulletproof' route (not all of them, granted)?
mircea_popescu: people in the republic ARE MENTAL DEFFECTIVES meanwhile, REFUSE!!111 to be paid to do simple task.
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to pay random idiots, i wish to pay people in the republic.
asciilifeform: they put in boxes, yes. but they do not give arbitrarily stiff finger to arbitrarily aggressive rogue states.
mircea_popescu: today. right now. as we speak. people are doing the useful task of putting cpus in boxes. is this incomprehensible to the engineering mind ?
Framedragger: so what, the idea is to jump around DCs (i assumed low bar for calling self isp is at least getting an AS number, btw) while they're kicking you, and only do rental contracts short enough so that not too much cash gets burned.
mircea_popescu: "wash the dishes" "hang on im designing an alien dish washer" "in the time you've been jacking off with the lolpics, other people ate out of washing dishes as professionals, you fucking tard you."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no grenade. it is a business, like giving away a ny restaurant. it will make a million or two over one's active life.
mircea_popescu: i am well satisfied there is not going to be naturally occuring sanity, has to be generated in #trilema or not be had.
mircea_popescu: sealand dood was a retard. like these usually are.
asciilifeform: btw whatever happened to the sealand d00d
mircea_popescu: get the implicit friendly contracts from tmsr. game over.
mircea_popescu: just make a fucking isp, that's not run by a moron and consequently ahead of 90% of the pack.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger dude wouldja stop with the insane approach. you've watched me build things for years, hopefully. learned nothing from the process ?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i hear, and even have coupla bookmarks from recommendations should the opportunity require, heh. anyway good to know
Framedragger: i agree that it'd be a good contribution, 'while it lasts'. maybe i'm too pessimistic, but i can't see how the 'refuses usg requests' lasts for any time after 'first request received'.
Framedragger: there are those isps in .ru which show the finger to usg, but (1) as was said here multiple times before, there is no 'bulletproof hosting'; and (2) i'd like to see what happens when someone starts serving content against .ru interests.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know for a hard fact, but there was that ukr.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: outside of reich, exactly same confiscation is carried out simply by slipping a hundy to the orc guard
asciilifeform: then possibly.
mircea_popescu: and it would be out of the question doing business with nato-reich located dcs anyway, for basic moral reasons.
mircea_popescu: let them do that.
mircea_popescu: most people live their entire life out of less contribution than this.
mircea_popescu: republican isp = competent sysadmin who handles relationship with multiple dcs in terms of getting hardware installed and refuses any requests made under color of law by the terrorist organisation known as "the united states government". and publishes them.
asciilifeform: which accesses the net and did ????!???.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform & former assoc. had this problem, laid quite thickly, because they ran (industrially) malware samples.
mircea_popescu: how has it failed ? you move to other dc or w/e.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so then we got some decent blog posts.
Framedragger: and they do.
Framedragger: w/e. someone tells them, to
mircea_popescu: why would they cut you off ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 16:59 mircea_popescu reviews with unmitigated sadness that the republican isp issue IS STILL NOT RESOLVED.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1646829 << i should review logs, but -- assuming we're talking about the same internet / ip aspce -- i've been sceptical of this. there's always an upstream that can cut you off, neh? if no upstream, you gotta somehow be tier 1 - how.
mircea_popescu: the similarities to wheat farming are striking.
mircea_popescu: by the time any one shows signs of competence and possible maturation into systemic threat, they... disappear. to leave the room for yet another inept sixteen year old and his "crew" with "three years experience".
mircea_popescu: it'd seem the usg terrorist organization has succeeded in african-americanizing the hosting business much like it did to the inner city ghettos : yes there exist youngsters who live outside of the reich. none of them survive into adulthood.
mircea_popescu reviews with unmitigated sadness that the republican isp issue IS STILL NOT RESOLVED.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-15 01:38 asciilifeform: 'OpenSSH 6.6 is the only version that is not affected, because it calls explicit_bzero() instead of memset() or bzero(). ..... older GCC versions do not remove the memset() or bzero() call made by buffer_free() or sshbuf_free(). GCC 5 and Clang/LLVM do, however, remove it.'
asciilifeform: Framedragger: and if you read the linked item, 'On Linux, I tested GCC 4.9, 5.4, and 6.3, as well as Clang 3.6, 3.8, and 4.0. None were affected. ' << applies strictly to recent clang, seems.
asciilifeform: no, i meant the use of shitflare per se.
shinohai: `clang` (noun) The sound your Apple phone might make as it is being pwnd.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/mevpd >> 'Some bounds checks are elided by Apple's compiler and possibly others, leading to a possible attack especially in 32-bit builds.'
shinohai: http://pagesix.com/2017/04/21/no-caitlyn-jenner-is-not-posing-nude/ <<< The most relieving headline I've seen all week.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 02:35 asciilifeform: 'From my conversations with Ubiquiti, I have found that they claimed that it's alright to refuse to provide source code to GPL-licensed software if "This decision was taken with the security of the users in mind". Furthermore, my conversations were endlessly delayed by the supposed necessity to forward my query to another, unnamed, team.' << now we can probably say what.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu , et al : any reply from the dieharder d00d ?
mircea_popescu: this is very braindamaged, even for the usually stupid bureaucrat. if the guy did nothing then why is he sought ?
asciilifeform: in Kansas, we know something about false Wizards," said the former Kansas congressman in his first public remarks as CIA director. Pompeo accused "Assange and his ilk" of making common cause with dictators as "they try unsuccessfully to cloak themselves and their actions in the language of liberty and privacy."'
asciilifeform: 'Mike Pompeo, director of the Central Intelligence Agency ... "WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service," he said in prepared remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value," Pompeo said. "He relies on the dirty work of other to make himself famous. He is a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen. "And
mircea_popescu: lol. this has nothing to do with him, it's simply a relfection of the fact that "worst baddest MR GOLDSTEIN" went from "Rapist" to "Russian Spy" since Trump cunt-punched rapist off the board.
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, https://archive.is/KDPpW << 'US authorities have prepared charges to seek the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange' >> good ol' trials in absentia
mircea_popescu: failure to do the later resulted in some pretty fucking spectacular fits of cfit back in the 60s.
davout: one task of the pilots is to constantly be able to instantly answer "shit happens, where go?"
mircea_popescu: anyway. small planes (ie, single pilot) make emergency landings (ie, landing otherwise than in flight plan) for all sorts of reasons. chief among them bad weather -- the small shits have icing problems and are really dependent on atmosphere playing nice with the nutshell, and in the more responsible also the pilot deciding he's tireder than he thought.,
mircea_popescu: (that's not actually correct - also reviewed in flight. fail the check and your itinerary changes from "to destination" to "to closest viable airport". conditions apply.)
mircea_popescu: gotta study this stuff alfie, it's one of the first, and to date one of the best, examples of process engineering.
mircea_popescu: ah, but is the standard ~can~ ? or what ?
mircea_popescu: god knows it can take KVM up the ying-yang.
asciilifeform: weren't there instances of folx entirely uninvolved with aviation (save for buying the ticket) 'landing with help from atc' ?
davout: also having two pilots enable them to cross-check each other, which is pretty fucking important to not forget anything
davout: the workload can get very important at times
davout: like priority over other aircraft for example
davout: one pilot can land it just fine, but he'll need ATC assistance to lighten the workload
asciilifeform: so what means 'must be operated by two pilots' then
asciilifeform: make the woman learn -- instant 2nd pilot.
asciilifeform: and 'theres no multi-pilot single props' -- which is plainly wrong
davout: flying into clouds, forgetting to switch the fuel tank selector to the full one, that kind of stuff
davout: usually the pilot being a derp
davout: i was told that the risk of flying non-commercial single engines was roughly equivalent to motor-biking