mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652105 << can make your own tools for as long as you can live with them. the output is sane ?
Framedragger: also not sure how easy it'd be to do the "have JS run, then save the resulting no-JS snapshot" thing (for having properly rendered copies without JS in them.)
Framedragger: new chrome version supports "headless" mode for very easy and accurate archiving. i'm curious, would the forum tolerate the use of chrome in an archiving tool (if properly packaged and (to the extent it's possible - yes, limited, barf) sanboxed)?
jurov: iirc in murica the lines have like 1-2kV and everyone has own transformer?
mod6: sounds like these highlines for residential service are somewhere between 300-600 volts
mod6: so, did, they came and kept an eye on it until it went out on its own. but next day, they came and trimmed off the back half of the tree to clear for the line.
mod6: when i first moved into this place, the huge silver-maple tree was touching the high-wire during a storm. the branch actually caught fire in the rain. started to spread down the branch quite a ways...
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> So there is this chick that calls herself "Lil Wafarin" on twitter sent me a message. When I casually asked why she chose rat poison as her nom de guerre, she goes ballistic. << BwAHAHAHAHAHAH
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> standard kerosene is 46MJ/kg. the boeing carries about 63k liters, and kerosene density is about .82 << Aha, this seems to be a source of common misunderstanding. That Jet fuel is a kerosene "heating oil" and not a gasoline exploding oil
mod6: hell, sometimes a storm can come through here, knock down lines; the tree guys might have to clear debris, power guys gotta hook up new equip and lines, can take ~12-24 hours
mircea_popescu: ~the inner limit for what something like that can reasonably take, i figure. so... yeah.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i wasn't here for it, but one opf the places, tree fell over brought down power grid. ticoswarm, power back on 2 hrs later.
mircea_popescu: haven't seen good salesmen for a long while pre coming back here. you know that, BOTH a) not be obnoxious and b) talk to you. not one, or the other. fucking both.
trinque: yeah, I found 'em friendly, helpful, and you could joke with them
mircea_popescu: way the fuck better than argentina, i'll tell you that. those idiots... god help them.
mircea_popescu: nah. it's pretty dirty but hey, you get inverters etc. otherwise, no, outage may be 10 minutes or such. they're just very serious, diligent people, drive up the hill fix it.
mod6: sure, more sand like then?
mircea_popescu: fortunately the soil isn't very good. if it were the rich black stuff, that sucks a lot of water, forget about it.
mircea_popescu: they build walls and shit to contain it, and are very good with trench gutters, foot deep etc.
mod6: there a fair amount of mudslides/erosion?
mircea_popescu: just no fucking way, stop on the first ravine.
mircea_popescu: rains daily, see ? and if you start sliding there's nothing.
mod6: i suppose even with the rains it's pretty bad
mircea_popescu: they have some hills here that if it even lightly frosted, it'd just be farewell to arms
mircea_popescu: just couldn't get enough torque to get its fat ass up the grade. period.
mircea_popescu: good for the engine!
mircea_popescu: they can't be arsed with switchbacks here. fuck it they say, make it 25% and let you drive in 1st for a few hours, what of it.
mod6: i bet the switchbacks were brutal on that hike 'eh?
mod6: ya, very much. there's one on every street!
mircea_popescu: oh yeah, totally forgot to gloat. so today on highway going to town, crash in front of me. then on the way back... crash in front of me. this one actually made traffic crawl, so i told the driver to switch lanes. because he wasn't going in the faster one.
shinohai: So there is this chick that calls herself "Lil Wafarin" on twitter sent me a message. When I casually asked why she chose rat poison as her nom de guerre, she goes ballistic.
mircea_popescu: actually, that's the principal distinction between "matter" and "energy" as intuitively understood. matter sticks around. energy does not.
mircea_popescu: ok, but you're aware this is not really how radiation works. there's no electromagnetic linger.
asciilifeform: and you won't find measurable qty of either in outdoor atmosphere.
mircea_popescu: you can't really cold-fuse water's hydrogens, because the tightly bound oxygen works as a sort of equivalent of a moderator.
mircea_popescu: there's water in the air. but hydrogen, even lighter than helium, tends to either react or run off.
mircea_popescu: tritium results from hydrogen cold fusion, theoretically. what hydrogen ?
mircea_popescu: not that much lithium snow in new york the next day.
mircea_popescu: tecnically, i suppose fuel-air bombs are "directed [thermal] energy", for a very weak specification of "directed"
asciilifeform: the 'martian deathray' folx -- serve usg.
trinque: like any other structure that collapsed into footprint
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what part of the picture was inconsistent with good old dynamite?
trinque: the thing was demo'd.
trinque: "directed energy weapon" is a whole other level of strange
asciilifeform: mod6: it means that you need B bytes, but you collect x*B, and xor them over a B-sized buffer
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i take the laser because notwithstanding the ample lossage generally discussed as "slope efficiency", photon beams are the most efficient em "weapons". actual ion beams are even worse than the 3-5%ish laser. so you know, someone somewhere had to burn 50 TJ or so to deliver the same effect, plus whatever the intervening air ate up. you know how air looks if traversed by a TJ laser ?
asciilifeform: this has 0 to do with the swap trick in ffa, mod6
mod6: my being dumb, the second time around.
mod6: asciilifeform: even in the case of a swap?
asciilifeform: mod6: xor is the 1 operation where entropy is guaranteed-additive ( supposing the two items are independent! X xor X = 0 ! )
mircea_popescu: standard kerosene is 46MJ/kg. the boeing carries about 63k liters, and kerosene density is about .82
mod6: After doing such, I have a hard time thinking how that would be cryptographically helpful. So perhaps the former is correct? Just looking for a heads up.
mod6: basically, I was just wondering about the verbage there and how I aught to "distill"; my first inclination was to go two bytes at a time, xor them together, output 1 byte. but then after sleeping on it, and a search of "xor in place", i thought maybe it meant to take: 0A0B and swap to 0B0A.
mircea_popescu: well yes, as a matter of fact i keep doing that math. it keeps coming up here, about how a liter of gasoline is 1.5 MJ and there ain't no electric battery even come close etc.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter the practical details. what's a MW laser look like, cost, what's it sound like when it goes, why would i say "nah, pulsed" as it were obvious in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628600
asciilifeform: gonna have to check the logs.
mod6: and that's the main thing. i really care about trying to fit it in head, as opposed to "compiler" concerns at this time with ffa. however, my other little sample shits i've been trying to make are probably going to go a lot better now that i have a 'sane' environment.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 23:33 mod6: I totally should have just checked that the version alignment on the thing. It was weird because simple things would compile.... like really simple things. But when it came to the more complex, ffa for example, was getting weird error messages. But at least, hey, it's out there, it has some sharp edges.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651852 << i'ma have to do a likbez when i get home. mod6 did you even split the ads and adb pieces? ( i pasted them into same paste, for ease of reading ) << yup. that was the first thing I encountered. but indeed, much easier to read.
mod6: how's the trip alf?
mircea_popescu: well, the lying chemist resulted in about 600 retrials in boston. coupla hundred walked.
asciilifeform: 'The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms also lost two evidence vaults, according to a spokesman for that agency' << gotta wonder, they dismissed even 1 case?
mircea_popescu: what, you mean in the museum building at 33 liberty ?
mircea_popescu: not in the fucking wtc though.
mircea_popescu: it's not practical to keep gold in the middle of fucking new york. you ever saw the wtc traffic ?
asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/01/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-vault-below-ground-zero-silver-and-gold.html ?
asciilifeform: whereas the reverse -- always and everywhere.
asciilifeform: it is absolutely never the case that a plebe suddenly no longer owes his mortgage, say, because a paper burned
mircea_popescu: this whole "nefarious AND COMPETENT lizard usg" theory would fare a lot better if it weren;t the case that during ~WELL EXPECTED~ hurricane hit about 500bn in negotiable paper got ruined.
asciilifeform: 'He says he has the most trouble understanding how World Trade Center 7 collapsed despite suffering no damage.' << this was the cherry on the cake of idiocy usg asked gullible public to swallow.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 13:07 mircea_popescu: shinohai lulzy, all the "technical trader" explaining away why their idiocy did not work. here, i have a very similar one for you : https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1376503/september-11-cameraman-claims-hes-got-proof-the-george-w-bush-administration-was-behind-terror-attacks/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651723 >> 'He says inside the building he came across a vault that had been cleared of its contents before the planes struck.'
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 23:33 mod6: I totally should have just checked that the version alignment on the thing. It was weird because simple things would compile.... like really simple things. But when it came to the more complex, ffa for example, was getting weird error messages. But at least, hey, it's out there, it has some sharp edges.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651852 << i'ma have to do a likbez when i get home. mod6 did you even split the ads and adb pieces? ( i pasted them into same paste, for ease of reading )
asciilifeform: 'why doesn't smell like the bulldozer it is? where is it.'
mircea_popescu: like it making sense to deploy the good trims.
asciilifeform: it blew my mind, i had never before heard of a 'wet muffler', walked around vessel in search of the missing tailpipe...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, the generator discussion huh
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 00:59 mircea_popescu: and it's not novel in any sense, either. exact same idiocy documented late 1800s, as per eg https://archive.is/lWBxq#selection-695.430-695.619
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1651870 << if fucked up the reference, meant http://trilema.com/2016/sensitivity-human-rights-democracy/#selection-69.0-73.139
mircea_popescu: and it's not novel in any sense, either. exact same idiocy documented late 1800s, as per eg https://archive.is/lWBxq#selection-695.430-695.619
mircea_popescu: this shit isn't in any sense rational. it's not properly speaking belief, like some believe jesus gives a shit about them or whatever, moses turned piss to vinegar. this is more like fatlogic, a convenient and therefore self-perpetuating earworm. whatever the problem, they'll just pretend like it's caused by you know, something somewhere being left behind, like they're playing old sierra quest games.
mircea_popescu: some strange fyrefestival math like, eating 4 cupcakes = 2400 calories, eating 5 cupcakes = 3500 calories and eating ALL the six cupcakes > 9000 calories. because ALL!
mircea_popescu: they genuinely imagined, and to this day still hold on to the impacted, unverbalised and unverbalizable belief that "educating" 100% of the horde is like... 2x better than educating 98.8% of it.
mircea_popescu: "no child left behind" wasn't supposed to lead to direct, immediate and precipitous tankage of the basic education system.
mircea_popescu: socialist paradise of the future to be enacted through having more people involved. just like they think the country will fare better, politically, by having more low information voters added to the rolls, and just like clinton genuinely thought the economy will gain by having more black morons with "home ownership". even if it was a purely scriptural matter.
mircea_popescu: that was the whole obamacare thing.
ben_vulpes: in particular i find the "number of insured will decline" line amusing
BingoBoingo: Idiocy is like water, it doesn't have a firm peak. Sometime it floods, but the high point is a "crest" not a peak.
BingoBoingo: Anyways local interstate highways have spent time closed this week because of water, fuck that's a lot of water, OMG is the river changing its course?, and TREE! Tree happened when ground became too wet to support continued rooting
mod6: I totally should have just checked that the version alignment on the thing. It was weird because simple things would compile.... like really simple things. But when it came to the more complex, ffa for example, was getting weird error messages. But at least, hey, it's out there, it has some sharp edges.
mod6: phf: thanks for the info.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 03:12 mod6: here's the results from FG #3, second run of entropy collection1.1Gb worth. `ent` && `dieharder` results: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.dieharder_run2.txt
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: i think it's grand << aha. ok sounds good then.
BingoBoingo: And the lower house of US congress passed healthcare reform-reform
mircea_popescu: it's the story of some laundress (kate pizdets) who speaks with a minor character la salle or de sale or w/e like she's hius wife
phf: this is as heavy handed as soviet propaganda used to be. photographer dies during training accident, "heroic womens dies in war, we salute all the heroic womens in war, and call a photography honor after heroic womens!1"
mircea_popescu: "human cost of war" my foot. a mortar shell blew up during a training exercise. what fucking war ? the human cost of the continuance of the usg criminal organisation.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other consumer futures, http://68.media.tumblr.com/1be6ec112a14f6a173a4a66c2e12f100/tumblr_nxh9kdjXzj1u2j8oyo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Well, products of their times
mircea_popescu: half the trench foot sufferers of 1917 got no morphine for amputations because no morphine avaialble, and the sky didn't fall over.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you'd expect pop icon of the 80s can afford nuclear grade pure samples. << Nah, they all hired fiduciaries who told them to "invest" in building their own "Neverland Ranch" by 1990
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 13:18 mircea_popescu: anyone got a theory ?
BingoBoingo: <lobbes> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651737 << probably follows standard path of percocet abuse (around $30 per pill on black market iirc) to eventual (much cheaper) heroin << You mean under $1 a pop at Walgreens to street price sticker shock to "One trick the drug companies don't want you to know"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wtf is with all these obnoxious 80s media items doing heroin anyway ? << Their doctors have been scared by the DEA gang into not giving them pharmaceutical opiates
mircea_popescu: i suppose the next helping out of the ever fertile well of these idiots' imagination is you know, "bitcoin is money because we've been acting like it were for long enough and everyone really cares what we act like!!!"
shinohai: And that the "celebrities" involved are actual people.
mircea_popescu: so basically this entire "legal proceeding" is about trying to enact the pretense that "E!" is a tv station and "WAGS Miami" is some sort of show and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: "Both Voigt and "YesJulz" are big names on social media. Voigt is a fitness model and Instagram celebrity who starred last fall on "WAGS Miami," an E! reality TV show about the wives and girlfriends of sports figures in South Beach."
shinohai: I never heard of her either.
trinque: funny enough this was exactly what I was thinking about in the shower
trinque: otherwise makes sensory input LIKE WOAH MAN which is fun, but does nothing useful
trinque: Framedragger: it's depersonalizing and that can maybe give you some room in your skull to think for a while if you're otherwise too neurotic to calm down
mircea_popescu: if anything should be the international, universal and enduring symbol of socialism / stupidity, it'd be a koi fish in a plastic bag.
mircea_popescu: what is wrong with the fucking soviet, it always builds these shits, roadways without parking spaces, brothel;s without bathrooms, raves without the requisite terarium scl etc ad infinitum.
trinque: totally untrue re: lsd gives you all the data
mircea_popescu: it is the place where you go to lie down and have your body temperature fixed passively.
Framedragger: sounds like a good idea :) i think "3 months" is a nice bare-minimum, but there's actually not enough data. controlled studies are with mice etc., and field observations have too many confounding variables (alcohol, weed, etc.; also, *body temperature* (most important catalyst of deprivation of antioxidants it seems, many fall prey to this, underhydrated, etc.))
Framedragger: (unless you're a british raveboy who does it every weekend and then complains of "memory problems" years later. plennnnty of these here)
Framedragger: (required disclaim re mdma: one has to do the homework, understand basics of serotonin syndrome (oxidation => damage of serotonin synapses), do it *very* infrequently (if at all), etc.)
shinohai: I never get tired of that one .... There is a version somewhere that the NY Philharmonic butchered by performing a bit too presto for my taste.
Framedragger: i think the simile of "lsd is like being given a coredump" is apt (actually heard this from an opioid affictionado). you're sorta-given-all-the-data, but then what. mdma on the other hand is in-between a psychedelic (you still get that psychedelic experience, to a point) and a stimulant (which in its case acts as "guidance", of sorts).
mircea_popescu: you'd expect pop icon of the 80s can afford nuclear grade pure samples.
lobbes: Mdma may be the right prescription for em' although many are cut with amphetamines. "The day after blues" can hit hard
mircea_popescu: in fact, the cogent argument re heroin is that any usage pattern from which you woke up is abuse. the correct way to use it is the way chinese use it, as a retirement plan.
mircea_popescu: there's better drugs to abuse than fucking heroin.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 13:18 mircea_popescu: anyone got a theory ?
mircea_popescu: and in other "When you see it"s, https://68.media.tumblr.com/fc9f5fcc1f392a51a74ec2dbb2cd013d/tumblr_n6sccvgZuH1tptzhko1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: whatever, no longer relevant in itself. yet another electric panel co.
mircea_popescu: people from the future will look at these boneheaded decades incomprehendingly. never before, and i expect never after, has so much business been destroyed by "really passionate" imbeciles "who wanted to".
mircea_popescu: and in other "production being carried on succesfully by managers who want to make things", https://archive.is/IOVKM#selection-1317.5-1317.68 <<->> http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
shinohai: http://vessenes.com/tokencard-tech-roundup-and-erc20-crediting/ <<< In other Ethereum projects that can't math ....
mircea_popescu: think, if only you had taken the day to do that, you'd have saved mod6 a week of fiddling, for a net gain of 6 days for the republic.
mircea_popescu: anyone got a theory ?
mircea_popescu: wtf is with all these obnoxious 80s media items doing heroin anyway ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, apparently george michael died. heroin abuse.
asciilifeform: ( originally planned to wait till 'p' release , did not anticipate the appetite of readers )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 10:14 phf: afaik gnat is built as part of gcc, i.e. it's one of possible artifacts produced during gcc suite compilation, so you shouldn't have a situation of non matching versions, and if you do it's most likely not going to work right. the easiest approach is to build matching gcc/gnat into their own directory structure, and change PATH when you're working with gnat projects. i think package managers going the other way and try and carefully match gcc/gnat
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651644 << this took me ~month to tune, i oughta have posted the makefile
mircea_popescu: this whole "oh, someone else snuck in and shot my wife, didn't bother to fuck her before or after, nothing" is such lulz. who the fuck is going to shoot a woman, the husband himself can't be arsed most of the time.
mircea_popescu: tl;cba - dude shot his wife in the head, ran off to argentina, is not being extradited and likes to claim that it's because he has sept 11 proofs!!1
mircea_popescu: shinohai lulzy, all the "technical trader" explaining away why their idiocy did not work. here, i have a very similar one for you : https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1376503/september-11-cameraman-claims-hes-got-proof-the-george-w-bush-administration-was-behind-terror-attacks/
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 23:16 mircea_popescu: "passions" for you know, "technology", "the ocean" and "music". because that's how this fucking works, there's a large jar called "passions" and you pick m&m's from there. they're all the fucking same.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if everyone agrees itsucks for the nodes, they got no fee market, except for the miners, who go "hey, at least they ain't got a market!11"
mircea_popescu: it's still one for the ages, to observe the people for whom the market exists in the first place squirm like they were visited with flaming salt ffs.
mircea_popescu: yes the current miners elbowed themselves atop a larger set who tried to mine, over years, somehow. but this does not mean they're anything but a bunch of idempotent tards.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the 'columbus and driftwood' thread
mircea_popescu: it's a little like giving an A to the kid who's top of the mongoloid class, forgetting for some reason that even if he floated to the top, he still floated to the top of a sewer and consequently is still a turd, fundamentally.
mircea_popescu: in short : the fundamental error at the base of the currently deployed bitcoin prototype is the nonsensical proposition that observed competence correlates with actual competence, rather than being just accidental happenstance.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 21:26 mircea_popescu: soooo... the unconfirmed rumour is that the chinese govt is drawing up plans to make bitcoin a strategic commodity, making it illegal for private citizens to hold it / buy their holdings at the "prevailing market rates" (ie, 1kish_
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 23:04 ben_vulpes: heh it'd be funny if a) the fiduciary rule had stuck and b) if someone had brought suit against coinbase/kraken for pushing penny stocks
mircea_popescu: apparently every imbecile is firmly convinced the warm embrace of some sort of "consensus" fiatism is going to treat him better than any possible marketplace.
mircea_popescu: who could have predicted that the people supposedly served by the market in question are the first to try and break it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 19:43 mircea_popescu: (andpool, as usual, the worst offender.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651435 << them and other folx who claim to 'prioritize' tx in exchange for ... fiatola
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 19:41 mircea_popescu: meanwhile the chinos seem to have completely given up on tx priority by fee. there's 20 sat/B items included, there's 200 sat/B item waiting for hours in the pool, it's a complete, ridiculous mess.
asciilifeform: apu1 was the nice one.
asciilifeform: so it's approx the same as any cheapo x86 nao.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
mircea_popescu: what could possibly go wrong! some idiots will flock to it, if it makes a blob large enough they'll be "too big to fail" and if it doesn't maybe it attracts the attention of a slightly larger blob looking to accrete specs of stupid to grow.
shinohai: The very same.
shinohai: "Our mobile application enables anyone to benefit from a platform secured by proven cryptographic principles without knowing the technical details behind it"
shinohai: Also, still pretending that Ethereum is "Immutable" apparently.
shinohai: https://blog.slock.it/blockchain-energy-p2p-sharing-project-share-charge-going-into-live-beta-ad4e069e79d <<< More of the same, from the neckbeards @ slock.it
mircea_popescu: point fucking remains : people who "just want to" "creative" and be relieved from the need to math are fundamentally stupid people who will never do anything but make trouble for their betters, and who essentially aim to burn your house down to make marshmellows in the blaze.
mircea_popescu: yes, it sounds way the fuck better in the abstract (if you're clueless, entirely devoid of either experience, any faculty for thought and any inclination to resolve either). but it's the same god damned thing -- the desire of "visual thinkers" to introduce new glyphs in the alphabet so they don't get "constrained" in their "creativity" by the present set exactly mirrors the need of the house fly to get some garbage going so i
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast "Production can only be carried out successfully by managers who want to make things, and not just to make money." from the marxist idiot masquerading as an economist with the "We thought we were ready, but then everyone arrived. The team was overwhelmed. The airport was jam packed. The buses couldnt handle the load." of the very manager he's talking about, passionate of "the ocean" and "technology" bu
shinohai: Not surprisingly, the main "investor" here is coinbase founder Fred Ehrsam.
mircea_popescu: goes right back to that discussion re spam, "oh how could anyone expect to sell something when they can't even spell". except he's not trying to do anything other than signal to other dumbasses, "hey, here's dumbassery". they then merge. that's all that's going on there.
mircea_popescu: most of the activity of the stupid is channeled to this "constructing the dogvomit" activity. it's not like "oh, stupid did something stupid, it dun work." it's always "stupid did something to signal to stupids that didn't happen to have other effects".
mircea_popescu: basically the reason we keep ending up with the empire of stupid "running things" instead of the republic of the smart, is because smart people look at stupid people and can tell they're stupid, and then imagine this means something. it does, in some places. in other places it does not : the stupid can still recognize the stupid and band together.
mircea_popescu: not really. more because octopus arm gotta signal its attachment to octopus so the other worms know what's what.
shinohai: Because naturally the shit doesn't work yet.
shinohai: http://userfeeds.io/ <<< "Allow your token-based community to create their own view of social media destinations" - But further down the page "Want to find out more? Check out our Medium blog."
mircea_popescu: the schmuck in question, http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/j-w-mason actually thinks he's an economics phd/asssistant prof etc.
mircea_popescu: "Firms investment decisions, then, dont depend on current earnings or credit conditions; they depend on whether management can propose projects with high enough returns to convince shareholders to leave their money inside the firm." << get a load of that. quotes. not around "workers" and not around "our" democracy. but around "their" money.
mircea_popescu: instead, the "workers", michael moore's http://trilema.com/2012/the-imbecilitarians/#selection-193.214-203.38 , those schmucks who spent all their day trying to put in less work THAN WHAT THEY WERE PAID FOR. those "sharei n the pain". what fucking pain ? the pain of ~their future expectations~ of tits continuing to bleed ambrosia in their open mouths going away.
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder. putting money down the line, with no kind of collateral whatsoever is not "sharing the pain". none of that obnoxious http://trilema.com/2015/other-peoples-money/#selection-77.0-77.47 oh no.
mircea_popescu: "Its a bit like the homeowners using their houses as ATMs during the 2000s, except that the shareholders dont get stuck with the mortgage payments. The businesses workers and customers get to share the pain."
mircea_popescu: there's users, there's directories, and then there's a bunch of gnats trying to reinvent the wheel so they could call it gneel and LIVE FOREVER IN MEMORY OF MAN!!11
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651645 << chiefly because nobody seems to grok hl the master of the rolls' point. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-02#1651098
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 05:00 mod6: Crap. Forgot to add that the gcc version on the one that worked was GCC 4.9.2. Maybe that's my problem with my broken env., gnat version doesn't match the GCC version.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 03:12 mod6: here's the results from FG #3, second run of entropy collection1.1Gb worth. `ent` && `dieharder` results: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.dieharder_run2.txt
phf: afaik gnat is built as part of gcc, i.e. it's one of possible artifacts produced during gcc suite compilation, so you shouldn't have a situation of non matching versions, and if you do it's most likely not going to work right. the easiest approach is to build matching gcc/gnat into their own directory structure, and change PATH when you're working with gnat projects. i think package managers going the other way and try and carefully match gcc/gnat
phf: mod6: this is anathem, but you could split the learning of ada and the build from sources into separate unrelated projects by downloading a prebuilt binary from adacore. that's what i did first, http://libre.adacore.com/download/ unpack whatever version ./doinstall puts all the binaries (including its own version of gcc) into a subdir structure you specify
ben_vulpes: endless lulzrabbit hole, this: "I seriously considered quitting the industry in 1997 when Apple Computer was concluding its acquisition of NeXT. Imagine if the president of General Motors said, in 1997, "It has come to my attention that our cars are kind of clunky and unreliable. Don't worry, though. We're rectifying this problem by licensing the blueprints to the 1985 Toyota Camry."
ben_vulpes elbows mod6 and whispers quietly in his ear "hey see if you can get him to do the eulora coppers while you're at it"
ben_vulpes: in unrelated arse-digitalia: "If she is curious about encryption, she should find the Internet's best tutorial on the workings of the RSA algorithm."
mod6: Crap. Forgot to add that the gcc version on the one that worked was GCC 4.9.2. Maybe that's my problem with my broken env., gnat version doesn't match the GCC version.
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later tell mircea_popescu Hi, does seem like my gnat woes were system environment related. Was able to compile alf's ffa after splitting up the file: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nl0EP/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2017-05-04 02:21 BingoBoingo: The bar?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651601 <<< On further thought, "You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you."
mod6: here's the results from FG #3, second run of entropy collection1.1Gb worth. `ent` && `dieharder` results: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.dieharder_run2.txt
shinohai: You are welcome to load up the Suburban and amble over here, lel.
shinohai: I have a guest tonite of the Georgian persuasion who made some kind of funky Stroganoff that i'm not gonna argue with.
mod6: cheddarworst brats on the grill tonight with dijon mustard.
BingoBoingo: lol, The lord titsbare hath decreed it
shinohai: Heh, never found solutions there.
BingoBoingo: The bar?
shinohai: I'm thankful the Republic accepts my contributions. Where else the fuck would someone like me go?
BingoBoingo: That's the power of "Keep coming back"
shinohai: BingoBoingo: I'm honestly *incredulous* 2 years have passed so quickly. The lulz have been as worthy as the shares, and that's value.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o hey, foundation owning shares, too ? << at first I was thinking that these might need to be realised into btc and sent to the addy... but i don't see any restrictions on asset ownership. as long as jurov writes in a line item in the report at least.
shinohai: Since all the other scammers can come up with a coin, I - The Baron Titsbare - should create a new algo called Proof of Jerk.
shinohai: I'm sure if she tugs on 'em a bit they will swing more clockwise.
shinohai: A little low and to the left! >.>
mod6: how they hangin' shinohai ?
Framedragger: (does stuff with other bands, too)
mircea_popescu: but, since they had people who could throw a quarter mil on tickets, and they're being hounded by geragos & friends for 100s of mns, it seems somewhat dubious it'll actually work.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's the right move from a cattle herding perspective. refund the current crop and promise them vip seats atthe next one. gotta keep the promise flow.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't look like there's enough arabs.