mircea_popescu: prisons have this very interesting fermentive effect for democracies. basically, it's easy enough to pretend like "our democracy" while the bread's still flowing ; once that stops, as it always does -- suddenly it's impossible for the "our democracy" pretense to insulate itself from the authoritatian restructuring the prison drives into society.
ben_vulpes: back a few branches, on the topic of dudes who would rather be in jail: http://katu.com/news/local/police-man-found-masturbating-vigorously-says-he-did-it-because-he-hates-portland
mircea_popescu: 3/4 mw, imagine the old fart.
mircea_popescu: there's also something about 1k hp producing a lot of pleasure or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: very much 90s/2000s item though. the following generation found the normal path to ibm alcatel oracle etc.
mircea_popescu: the piine si pizda crew.
mircea_popescu: the reason being that there's a whole troop of intellectuals who missed their web development calling and instead of sitting on compuer all day checking out what's new in rust they just collate crap from across the youtube.
phf`: it's like a mixture of all the oh-i-remember-this-was-popular chav styles from across the world
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the dude's not even stupid. but this notion that not being stupid suffices to think is not unlike the notion that... well... everything else.
asciilifeform: 1 level below : are found the folx who can count.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet he's ~in charge of the idf sikrit projects to maff and stuff.
mircea_popescu: phf` tbh, there are two items very popular in mp household. 1 is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-unZ6sUEio the other's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ulinu-_FYc
mircea_popescu: this is how the civillians think, alfie.
phf`: i'm going to play this at the office, to confuse both romanians and the iranians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLSZ-K0kog
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the dude ? square jawed dork, committed some amusing points re "interdicting uninterdictable comms" and other "us army ra ra ra!!" lulz.
mircea_popescu: but, since we're doing romanian gypsies : here's what the equivalent of that us army strategist dude has to say about things and matters : http://earonovich.blogspot.com/ ( http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~eddiea/ )
mircea_popescu: there is no romanian in there, though. fat guy is a popular gypsy singer, the ~only actual word in his speech would be "carolina" which is only romanian inasmuch "o iubesc pe carolina, e o fata din carpati, are ochii ca si marea si-i frumoasa ca o stea, o carolina lina lina carolina cha cha cha" etc 30 yo kid rhymes.
phf`: i have a very what's the word straight? romanian coworker. i like to periodically send some of the things i glean through mircea_popescu about romanian this guy's way. just to watch his reaction.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/fiat-ram-trucks-may-smash-their-operators/ << Qntra - Fiat Ram Trucks May Smash Their Operators
mircea_popescu: in other things the world was not ready for, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4oYO13ezHI
asciilifeform: lol in what camp are there white chix.
asciilifeform: quite a few of these, pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: and yes the orange tube.
mircea_popescu: anyway, reason i didn't buy is because the commies didn't sell. otherwise -- money, had.
mircea_popescu: well there is that.
mircea_popescu: but kid needs >1 for the obvious reason.
asciilifeform: lol of what are they made ? sugar ?
mircea_popescu: aand in other lulz : local kid superstore sells slingshots in valupacks.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-19 02:30 asciilifeform: chinese 'WoT' (like in other asian nations) is very heavily tilted in direction of blood relation
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, apparently the last foreigner to obtain chinese citizenship was some russian broad in 1964
mircea_popescu: course, everyone who is citizen has little interest to actually put in any work, can jsut get the freebies and coast.
asciilifeform: fwiw, unlike 20yrs ago, ~everyone who slaves in these corps is citizen, they made it very easy to get
mircea_popescu: wtf, the "this will never be finished" designation ?
mircea_popescu: lmao, wait, wait, they dun want any actually productive zeks touching it ?
mircea_popescu: what, they give usians a nda to sign at birth, along with all the ssn papers and whatnot ?
asciilifeform: and that (theoretically) any middle manager who hooks up indian slave to $project, is to be sacked
asciilifeform: all it means is that leak is in breach of nda, but not seekrits act (or whatever they called it)
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/dHG0g >> '56MB... dram per asic' << seems like they hedged, 'what if litecoin wins', lol
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 15:14 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << for the record there's ~nothing there. "oh, project rife with the kind of complex math". save me rwanda, they're gonna dekulakize math now.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655211 << incidentally there is no particular reason why that particular 'acre of cray' couldn't be the nsa mining farm.
mircea_popescu: even to that, there's the occasional mobster walking away from gunfight with dozen holes in hide.
mircea_popescu: you put it on the dood's ac, for all you know you cure his coloitis and little girl next door delivers twin puppies.
asciilifeform: see many other kinds ?
mircea_popescu: yes well i don't see that many phosgene to ac unit cia goons out there combing the streets.
mircea_popescu: yes, but you will need grams not micrograms of the stuff.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 13:27 asciilifeform: then dies of hugochavez a year or so later.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 13:24 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655107 << Rn, the most common unstable gas, kills quite slowly. the comicsl phrasing is really artifact of kr lang
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655122 << so what, they're going to hide a gassed wine cellar in the guy's immediate proximity for 6 months ?
mircea_popescu: While the documents describes an incredibly powerful code-breaking project, according to what hacker and computer researcher Andrew "Bunnie" Huang told The Intercept, if you're using the latest encryption, you don't have anything to worry about. "Even if [WindsorGreen] gave a 100x advantage in cracking strength, it's a pittance compared to the additional strength conferred by going from say, 1024-bit RSA to 4096-bit RSA or go
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << for the record there's ~nothing there. "oh, project rife with the kind of complex math". save me rwanda, they're gonna dekulakize math now.
asciilifeform: and goodbye to the - 500 $ - optics
asciilifeform: phf`: laser cutter is absolute champ in this regard. 'smells like fireplace, like home!' and then somebody puts in plastic sheet...
phf`: come to think of it the whole exhaust in the kitchen applies to other cases where exhaust is mandatory: i like the small of soldering rosin or the smell of freshly sawed wood, but i wouldn't want to spend much time in a workshop that doesn't have an exhaust. and you have similar failure mode: "come all to work on projects!" hackerspaces notoriously don't have exhaust
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Can You Really Cook Salmon in a Dishwasher ? | Kitchn: <http://www.thekitchn.com/can-you-really-cook-salmon-in-a-dishwasher-putting-tips-to-the-test-in-the-kitchn-218048>; 5 Foods You Can Cook in Your Dishwasher ... if You Dare | HuffPost: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-stir/dishwasher-cooking_b_3605859.html>; Dishwasher Salmon with a Piquant Dill Sauce Recipe | Bob Blumer ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: shinohai when you realise that's what it does whether in the toilet or not, you will... shit bricks and pellets of fishfood.
mircea_popescu: significantly helped by the fact that carp is, in romanian, crap. literally. you can buy "icre de crap" ie crap roe.
mircea_popescu: (i have azn friend who likes trying to bother me. feigned surprise at how we here in the decadent west let the toilet water go to waste, when we could raise a koi in there. jsut think alf! millions of toilets! tons of carp!)
asciilifeform: hey, americans rediscovered it : dishwasher ( i shit thee not ) fish.
mircea_popescu: i guess somehow the obvious got unhappened in all languages because why would they wanna think of such things!
mircea_popescu: eyah, somehow teh socialist masquerading as co-op-ist isn't quite prepared for a) his nonsense to be readily identified, "rock soup, rly?" and b) the obvious "just make sure it's not dishcloth borscht" ready counter.
mircea_popescu: phf` is there a ru equiv of the "ciorba de spalatoare" ro concept ? dishcloth borscht ?
diana_coman: makes some sense; to me though "smell of food" is fine as long as it's more like flavour of thing on the plate, NOT smell from the kitchen ; those people like that smell from the kitchen; admittedly it's still not industrial so yeah, there is something there
phf`: oils and other particles are carried by constant steam, accumulate on surfaces, start catching dust and dirt particles, etc. it's straight up unhygienic.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman let's distingush "smell of food" as in ie mp cooks for three and "smell of kitchen", as in, restaurant. it's not the smell of any specific food just like the sewer is not the smell of any specific ass. yes some people like some asses, but that's as far as it goes.
mircea_popescu: if supermarkets offered the old, hand cranked washing machine, there'd be households with the handcranked washing machine. and blogs dedicated to how it's better. and so forth.
diana_coman knows people who LIKE the smell/to smell of food; I'm quite sure they know also what hunger means - firsthand as it were, even if in their past rather than present
mircea_popescu: but since bad venting you needn't get anywhere specifically, they still have it.
mircea_popescu: if the eu hadn't made it illegal, people'd still drive 1950 cars around the eu. like you know, smog filled paris. what, his car did the smog ?
mircea_popescu: that's where the whole "upgrade or die" software nonsense comes from/
phf`: there's too many places to name that fuck up the whole vent thing. there's a small cafe next to my apartment that i can't go to because they don't have exhaust. but i think it's a general "oh we need to cook? i'm going to replicate my mom's kitchen". at least they now all get proper stoves, probably after watching cooking shows where fire goes "woosh" when it's cooking
mircea_popescu: subtle flaws, because nobody has any books and the masters all went to boring island and are sitting there fishing all day or i dunno wtf.
mircea_popescu: yet another aspect of that endless "your own head is your first and only enemy".
mircea_popescu: it's the well meaning ignorance that conspires to fuck people's shit up.
mircea_popescu: this is my point, wrapped up : it's not even conspiraci , not in the general sense.
mircea_popescu: i asked him why he put it in though, he explained "to neutralize the bla bla bla".
mircea_popescu: 2. the new-age-y dood handling the wine was offewring wine icecreams. fabulous, really. all vegan, he informed us insistently -- coconut base. they really did taste good.
mircea_popescu: utterly noob mistake. i've owned restaurants enough to know you build the whole fucking kitchen around the vent, first you put that in then you places the stoves. how's she to know and how's she to guess ?
mircea_popescu: 1. the restaurant was unvented. if you went on the loft above of it, you could thouroughly smell it. so would your clothes if you spent enough there -- such as, time for a meal.
mircea_popescu: but i belittled and insulted the mousy brunette playing the ocd type, we had a lot of fun.
mircea_popescu: mod6 all improv, it's the 2010s after all.
mod6: are the guests somehow integrated into some sort of daily script?
mircea_popescu: ok. now, wanna guess the subtle ways or shall i just say ?
phf`: it's nifty, i think i've seen variations on the idea, but this sounds like a solid execution
mircea_popescu: girl does not speak english, did not steal the idea. she came up with it on her own. hired actual actresses for waitstaff, they throw fits and rant around, to the unspeakable confusion of (all other) patrons.
mircea_popescu: she got a nice place on the cheap no doubt -- hey, what else is the point of being in real estate ? -- and spent a year furnishing it into a concept restaurant.
mircea_popescu: so, girl discovered this very promising place. in charge of it, this stunning beauty of an actress/real estate agent. you understand me ? this girl did understand you can't make it as an actress without money, but she didn't go into prostitution, or waitressing, like all others. she got herself real estate firm.
mod6: Here are the test results on third run of FG #4: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg4.ent_run3.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg4.dieharder_run3.txt
phf`: on mac when you search for UTC in timezones, the system helpfully offers "UTC - United Kingdom" and sets timezone to GMT. little know fact: great britain switches from GMT to BST, British Summer Time during summer months. welcome to computers!
asciilifeform: then, couple hours and chain of short-lived liquishit later -- stable Pb.
asciilifeform: then dies of hugochavez a year or so later.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655107 << Rn, the most common unstable gas, kills quite slowly. the comicsl phrasing is really artifact of kr lang
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << lol!! yet another gang of 'responsible!111' scum , withholding leaked docs and fellating nsa
phf`: “Self-Compassion Works Better Than Self-Esteem (theatlantic.com)”
phf`: “First-Ever LSD Microdosing Study Will Pit the Human Brain Against AI (vice.com)”
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 05:49 danielpbarron: i obliged, even though the song was terrible and i had never done it before
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655101 << sounds like run of the mill attention whoring.
mircea_popescu: the best korea enjoys a tenuous grasp of physics.
asciilifeform: i srsly have nfi where punkman gets the noose, for all i know he writes himself.
asciilifeform: ( iirc it was the only one he had that he owned in person )
asciilifeform: there was even a u.s. patent..
asciilifeform: ( moved'em, alive and well, to the ~next~ shop or flat on street ! )
asciilifeform: lol, very well trained, they ate a good chunk of roof
BingoBoingo: Probably the squirrels were trained stooges. Catcher having taken protection money may move them to different neighborhood and repeat on another sucker.
asciilifeform: ( anticlimactic: taken alive by the hired catcher, i have nfi what he wants with them )
BingoBoingo: Anyways, have the bushy tailed rebels been defeated yet?
asciilifeform: hence the 'not enough zeros' answrr.
BingoBoingo would rather read alf's 700 page Chronicle of Squirrel Wars
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p Just curious, but why did you suppose alf combing back through logs for 100 USD would be good use of engineer time? Collating information from logs is secretarial rather than engineering work.
asciilifeform: 'South Korean officials called the claim “groundless.” The CIA declined to comment, as is customary.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655022 << i can only picture the frustration of gabriel_laddel_p -- he read the l0gz and went off to get subj b00k and presumably tried to eat it -- but never afaik learned ordinary classical electromagnetism
shinohai: See http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ for further details! >.>
asciilifeform: ^ lulzily, phuctor was wedged may 5 - may 10 on account of having been rebooted by unknown wreckers such that it left the werker lock file on.
ben_vulpes: because /they/ don't have it
ben_vulpes: power is always undeserved to these people
mircea_popescu: how about "bitch, if you could know truth if it hit you on the head you'd be in power". not fucking evident enough ? how the fuck are the powerless to obtain truth, from their father, the god of the stupid ?
mircea_popescu: in other unimportant matters, wtf is with the idler party and that "speak truth to power" meme ?
gabriel_laddel_p: And: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2011/06/how-the-laser-happened-adventures-of-a-scientist/
gabriel_laddel_p: For the bored: http://aero.stanford.edu/gtrpaper/gtr.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdiG6ZPib3c http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/100951/what-was-feynmans-much-better-way-of-presenting-the-electrodynamics-which http://www.feynmanlectures.info/other/Alternate_Way_to_Handle_Electrodynamics.html http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mod6: all set, list is updated. thanks for the heads up.
pete_dushenski: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html << mod6 are you handling this list ? if so, please to update :)
asciilifeform: on plus side, 'Support for the musl C library was added for the AArch64, ARM, MicroBlaze, MIPS, MIPS64, PowerPC, PowerPC64, SH, i386, x32 and x86_64 targets. It can be selected using the new -mmusl option in case musl is not the default libc. GCC defaults to musl libc if it is built with a target triplet matching the *-linux-musl* pattern.'
asciilifeform: and didjaevenknow there ~were~ a g6 ?!
asciilifeform: 'Support for the g5 and g6 -march=/-mtune= CPU level switches has been deprecated and will be removed in a future GCC release.' << laugh, cry, ben_vulpes et al
shinohai drives F1 car with alf's thermonooklear device affixed into pentagon .... "ALLAH SNACKBAR!"
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653407 << f1 cars are pulling ~12g in the corners these days, consumer auto is rarely >1g lateral before tires break loose.
asciilifeform: 'Support for the IBM z13 processor has been added' << just when i thought perhaps zombie was properly dead & buried
asciilifeform: 'GCC now supports the Intel CPU named Skylake with AVX-512 extensions through -march=skylake-avx512' << all cheer for intel proprietary crapstructions !1111
BingoBoingo: Carrots especially are notorious from coming out of manure and other quality organic muck scarred
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Nice. That is indeed a part of the root vegetable paradox. I imagine the best beets are grown in potter's clay
asciilifeform: e.g., 'Support for a number of older systems and recently unmaintained or untested target ports of GCC has been declared obsolete in GCC 6. Unless there is activity to revive them, the next release of GCC will have their sources permanently removed.'
asciilifeform: check out the 'features'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform found out today that gcc 6 (!) exists : https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-6/changes.html
ben_vulpes: unsurprisingly, the radishes sown in mud away from amended soil taste the best and are the beefiest.
shinohai: I use the ball peen for hammering out teeth.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Don't forget the 9 inch linesman pliers in case you have to take into bondage not a pretty girl
shinohai: I shall! Then when someone knocks and asks "Pardon me, do you happen to have a ball-gag handy?" I can reply with an enthusiastic "Yes!"
mircea_popescu: splurge and spend the 15 to buy a ball gag. it's one of those items, like cased bullet, that can't really be replaced in the kitchen.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1653984 << so i got a copy, mine had a mechanical looking gash in the spine, had to send it for replacement. otherwise it's not horrible. it's a cheap thermal binding, but the paper is crisp, and the source is TeX so it looks reasonable.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Ixchs/?raw=true << in other noose !! << You are making game consoles and you do not require them to sign an NDA
asciilifeform: ( and same types of idiots had the nerve to whine about 'viral' gpl )
asciilifeform: betcha it's part of the 'license' deal, even.
mircea_popescu: see alf, that's the problem with fuckgoats, that nsa doesn't have an email spam service. THIS GOES AGAINST PRINCIPLES!
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
mircea_popescu: for maximal lulz, they rent the email spam services from same company that does payments for the you know, legitimate & fo realz http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380
asciilifeform: 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale' etc.
asciilifeform: tbh i'm not especially hot an' bothered about a license-built-from-usa mips.
mircea_popescu: don't tell me ivan a ivanov is not a real name either!
asciilifeform: not rly, said 'Письмо сгенерировано автоматически.' right in there, in tail end of email crapolade, i just missed 1st time
asciilifeform: ( it is nearly midnight on their end, if it weren't obvious )
mircea_popescu: guy's name is fucking epic for the purpose, i confess.
trinque: asciilifeform: "An NDA may or may not be appropriate but I'm unable to evaluate the matter without ..." and give him something to do
mircea_popescu: kinda how the czars (back before the muscovy took over) kept painting selves in byzantine headgear. ENNOBLEMENT!!!
trinque thought the whole point of the bureaucracy was to provide cover for *not* following teh rules.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems entirely likely the item is onlyt there because in their experience ustards perceive its presence as "professional"-ing.
mircea_popescu: the entirety of us economy consists not of principals but of agents. why would anyone hire a full servcie broker to churn their holdings ? because they get paid on commission!
diana_coman: have you considered that they might be simply *copying* IBM and the like 'cause that's "how it's done"? i.e. nda etc
mircea_popescu: cuz they work on a comission.
asciilifeform: also i gotta wonder why anybody (this is re not only baikal but loonson of cn) PAYS FOR 'imagination tech incl' mips license -- when the thing has been out of patent since 1980s
mircea_popescu: hey, the russki's are trying to be civilised. absent any signal from you as to what civilisation entails, they end up following the pantsuit ustards.
mircea_popescu: as you might imagine, "Sales & Business Development" not the most exciting line of work.
mircea_popescu: in any case, i guarantee you it'll make their day.
asciilifeform: btw in sharp contrast with china -- where they sent me fresh crystals within 2 (! rather than promised 3!) weeks, with ZERO prying questions and certainly no nda.
mircea_popescu: well, so tone down the parts that concern you, what.
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform signs and sends this, he will probably have to design the mips box on toilet paper inside bastille, like de sade
mircea_popescu: thenh negotiation can begin : we leave off wiping the us ; they leave off the nda, it's a give and take process.
asciilifeform: this is where i bow to the peopleskillz muscles of mircea_popescu and ask if he'll try an' write .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what's the problem ? point them to nsa fg page, explain the company is working on an uninterdictable nuclear missile to wipe the united states off the face of the earth.
asciilifeform: but i get the idea.
asciilifeform: but then again someone could point same type of finger at, e.g., FUCKGOATS
asciilifeform: i suspect that if either baikal or elbrus ~existed~ in commercially relevant qtys, it would handily corner the 'fuck cisco and usg crapolade' market worldwide
mircea_popescu: phf` go to moscow, incorporate, hire a coupla hookers at the moscow uni, pref 2nd/3rd year, send one to baikal once you're done fucking them ?
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : incorporate in moscow, hire a coupla call girls, pay their salary and send them to find you pieces.
asciilifeform: or is it another elbrus.
ben_vulpes: in other waaaat, spicer hiding in bushes to avoid questions about comey
mircea_popescu: there's a reason alf hates interruptions.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the reason you do not see results commensurate with your perceived (and for all anyone knows, correctly perceived) subjective capacity is that you do not provide yourself with proper basis and sufficient time to make it happen.
gabriel_laddel_p: No? But I suppose that is the case, isn't it.
mircea_popescu: right. is the subtext that if only you were somehow involved this'd have been averted ?
gabriel_laddel_p: The article also lists 2 disasters that resulted from floating point errors
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: an addition to the story that "floating point must die": because otherwise intelligent people who have PHDs, write haskell & work on stuff we useveryday end up making less-than-obvious mistakes without realizing it.
mircea_popescu: yes, but why is the happenstance that some dood with the right robes made $mistake relevant ?
gabriel_laddel_p: anyways, just another addition to ascii's "floating point has to die" thread.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: read the article. Or just the smooth surprise part. It isn't an overflow error
gabriel_laddel_p: I was hanging out with aerospace ppl, one of whom works on computer aircraft software -- gave him the function in question and told him it had a floating point error, asked what it was
asciilifeform: one 'asks' by dissolving package in nitric acid and then micrograph.
mircea_popescu: ask the fucking chip!
asciilifeform: how the living fuck does one reverse ciphered blob of instructions for unknown instruction set, consisting mainly of writes to registers of unknown purpose (mostly dealing in such things as setting PLL frequency etc) without physical peek ?
mircea_popescu: is it related to the "ven" bs nefario was pushing at his stallman-attended scamference ?
mircea_popescu: is there an english equivalent to the ancient romanian "an idiot throws a stone overboard and ten philosophers can't fish it back out" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when you're done with that you can cycle through the realtek until you document it and reverse the blob, we'll be good.
asciilifeform: 'no one will believe, but i find the fixation with ancient iron, counterproductive', said asciilifeform from old x60 lappy
trinque: you (snort) you gotta go big asciilifeform, just make the (pounds desk) the list of all hardware.
mircea_popescu: "eight." "eight what ?" "eight million. when i was a kid i figured you had to get eight million together to be considered a legitimate rich guy. so i got busy".
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: but I want the _complete_ list.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I have a partial list of hardware related items from the logs.
mircea_popescu: can't lay out silk for an umbrella without the spikes or how it went.
mircea_popescu: it might provide fine support for alf to transition from the phase of "i can't write a trilema" to the phase of "there it is, read it
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I don't care about how long, just want the price
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: this would take a rather long time. and i'm not convinced that the result would be very interesting
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: this pattern where hardware is named in-channel and then you comment on it is highly inefficient. How much would you charge (USD, via paypal/venmo) to iterate through a-zA-Z, 0-9, #\! thru #\) and name each and every item of computer hardware related to it you possibly can + give a review. Then to encrypt the resulting text file to a
mircea_popescu: miught make a fine offering for the eventual tmsr isp, just as soon as anyone gets off their intellectual arse and actually starts living life instead of dreaming it.
asciilifeform: it uses conductive, rather than convective, cooling, however, could be problem in a hot dc
mircea_popescu: ah then cool
asciilifeform: apu1 racks, i even have the mechanical bracket somewhere
mircea_popescu: anyway, as far as "headless whatever" item is concerned trinque it seems to me something you can rack is a better choice than something you gotta keep around the house / out of dog's mouth etc.
mircea_popescu: for me personally, the "young soviet" personified by cptn breznev was rather instructive.
asciilifeform: their approach to engineering is 'junkyard wars' -- 'look mother, what i made from dead possum and string!'
asciilifeform: trinque: such marvels as, e.g., 'web20', javascript, etc. came directly from allowing teenaged scum to have whatever involvement in design aside from cleaning the shop at closing time each day.
mircea_popescu: you know, "Goes against their principles".
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think they'll ever do something useful though, for the reason that it's useful. somehow the drones intuit and avoid any non-drony un-pointless meaningful activity.
trinque: army of excitable young dickheads are meanwhile all farting around winking at us from their android devices or whatever
trinque: wasn't hardware thread. got dragged there because reasons.
asciilifeform: trinque: 'ban ip' in context referred to 'ban port', 'reject dns', or whatever other machinations.
asciilifeform: but basic idea -- nothing other than fpga machine conforms to 'auditable without electron microscope' and 'specificity of diddling'.
trinque: what do they use it on, running weed around and whatnot
mircea_popescu: no, have motherboard design where the "dma" is a specified bank, and the cpu ram is a different bank ; and let it call whichever it specifically wants.
asciilifeform: no magical whatevers, just basic clay out of which to make the comp.
asciilifeform: ditch the 'insulators'. asciilifeform asks for 1 thing and 1 thing only hardwarewise -- massive open fpga, coupled to dram slots.
mircea_popescu: so tmsr computing wishlist goes a) ram insulating motherboard ; b) fully open nic to fuckgoats standards.
asciilifeform: ( how the hell did anyone even port coreboot to apu2 ?? )
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that 1) afaik it does not exist . 2) the idiot pc architecture gives your nic - regardless of who made it -- access to ALL OF RAM
asciilifeform: trinque: one nice thing is that the apu1 had 3 pci-m holes. so if a proper nic existed, you could potentially install it.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the nic issue gotta be addressed already.
trinque: and also other things