mod6: or how I'm trying to read from the serial
mod6: asciilifeform: yup. just, openbsd with the config I was talking about yesterday didn't hit that. im sure it's just something on the openbsd side, ie. my configuration.
asciilifeform: mod6: ~7 is the rated output at room temperature
asciilifeform: if you have your serial port set to anything else, you are getting crud !! and not entropic crud, either
asciilifeform: ftr , for people who refuse to read the source : FUCKGOATS emits at 115200 baud STRICTLY!!!
a111: Logged on 2017-05-30 14:37 mod6: asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
mod6: can get some later. maybe need to change the baud setting, or even something different.
mod6: asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-29 23:15 asciilifeform: well, d00dz who don't bother to figure out, how many joules of light even hit the 'garden', even supposing more than a few % ended up in food...
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-29#1662980 << a glaring plothole in "the martian" and his potatoes, too
ben_vulpes: probably nouveau getting a grip on the device first according to dmesg
ben_vulpes: in other memorial daze, this gentoo box comes up but i cannot get x to recognize the screen
ben_vulpes: estos functionan: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
ben_vulpes: CluelessNoob: solamente usandolo http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
ben_vulpes: CluelessNoob: usando los instrucciones en http://thebitcoin.foundation ?
ben_vulpes elbows trinque in the ribs
ben_vulpes: both before and after injection of the lovin' spoonful
ben_vulpes: clearly asked too many questions, overloaded the clooqueue
ben_vulpes: also curious to know if you are following instructions from thebitcoin.foundation or what
pete_dushenski: also, check that there are no weird characters imported into your files, which can happen depending on whether you used cat or curl or whatever CluelessNoob
pete_dushenski: CluelessNoob: where did you get the keys from ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hitting the hay. will endeavour to get you hexdump output soon.
trinque: how they internalize such contradictions I'll never know.
ben_vulpes: i never did muster the energy to track down that photoset
ben_vulpes: what's the lafondism? never pick fights, and only engage on fronts you can win decisively on the grounds of overwhelming force and surprise?
trinque: "omg you can't do this to *me*" on all sides of the day's nonsense.
ben_vulpes: "oh you mean to tell me that you let a nutter on the train troll you into fisticuffs and then cut your neck open? hey it coulda been worse, he coulda stabbed you with a hiv needle and let you die slowly."
ben_vulpes: i'm waiting for the max video to come out showing a complete failure of the two "victims" to "deescalate"
trinque: seems even the portland nazis are long-haired derpy stoners.
trinque: that statue in huntsville is near the state prison; convenient for "antifa" round-up
ben_vulpes: in other, floppier noodles: http://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-free-speech-march-sharia-wheeler-permit/
trinque: http://sanangelolive.com/news/live-thought/2017-05-27/group-disregards-history-tirade-against-sam-houston << Channel 2 (NBC) in Houston reports there will be a counter-protest over the statue by open carry groups. Channel 2 quotes the vice president of Texas Open Carry David Amad, "Our event is to make sure they understand that one way or another that statue is not going anywhere."
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: compare with the photo
pete_dushenski: "The researchers investigated two fossils of Graecopithecus freybergi with state-of-the-art methods and came to the conclusion that they belong to pre-humans. Their findings, published today in two papers in the journalPLOS ONE, further indicate that the split of the human lineage occurred in the Eastern Mediterranean and not - as customarily assumed - in Africa."
asciilifeform: betcha the output has ~0 entropy also.
pete_dushenski: and in other unexpected starts, mebbe humans aren't from africa after all ? http://archive.is/RzRji
mircea_popescu: what is the charge, practicing identity politics without a dnc permit ?
asciilifeform: 'Detectives said he used an Army surgical kit that contained a scalpel, lidocaine, medical dressing, and other medical equipment.'
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/ << Trilema - Re-reading is the most powerful tool...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes every time i hear the "pop" nonsense i think of the guy with the dropshadows. makes the font pop right off the page!
asciilifeform: theoretically one could distinguish the cases of this caused by organic stupidity of the one doing it, from when it is done with cold calculation, to bamboozle investor/customer/misc. idiot
asciilifeform: fictional, then, story.
asciilifeform: 'The requested page title contains invalid characters: "%27".' << lel
asciilifeform: yes but how does the legend go. where, and why, did this take place
mircea_popescu: i thought it was a literal case of a bike shed becoming the sink of discussion.
mircea_popescu: "are you with the mainstream or with the resilient communities ?" "oh, we're ~seeing past that~". etc.
mircea_popescu: basically, to the original point, this "soft alternative" approach to a present problem is a transcription of the bikeshed approach to decision making.
mircea_popescu: right, the law became complex as interest in legality plumeted.
asciilifeform: ( in the contrary, there would be 'troikas' instead of courts presided over by preet )
asciilifeform: or consider the elaborate dog&pony show of ameri-courts. also works strictly in absence of much serious organized uppitiness.
mircea_popescu: leaving behind the present situation, meaningful to no one and effectual in no way.
mircea_popescu: so basically, in that example, people defecterd from vhs-america, through creating "tough on terrorism" pantsuiterica. but then ALSO defected from that, because really.
mircea_popescu: to my eyes that's still a match : inasmuch as there's no actual terrorists actually bothering with it, the "dept of homeland security" may continue to departmentr of homeland securitize about.
mircea_popescu: they have that ?
mircea_popescu: similar example, say, "homeopathy", is a level of complexity in nonsense inexplicable on the basis of simple dynamics. but the necessary requisite for its appearance is very good general health services -- then people can afford to "not trust doctors" and "practice alternative medicine" but in the sense of... not really practicing anythinbg in particular.
asciilifeform: how much this even changes when it ~is~ put to test ? e.g. the folx during the plague who carried around paper talisman, word 'arsenicum' (because obtaining actual arsenic for talisman costs a little more..)
mircea_popescu: ah, yes. but the thing is -- the clueless could in principle be clueless about anything in any way, and on the basis of such simple model you'd expect normal distribution, with most not doing anything in particular. whereas the theory here is that ellaborate nonsense is always driven by this situation when a broken ideology encounters a weak reformist group and then idiots end up double-defecting, once into the reformists and
asciilifeform: ( this re the indoor gardening bit. it is not difficult to try it, the surest cure for 'bunker garden' notion is to try the indoor tomato thing )
asciilifeform: well, d00dz who don't bother to figure out, how many joules of light even hit the 'garden', even supposing more than a few % ended up in food...
a111: Logged on 2017-05-29 18:36 mircea_popescu: it's a level of superficial idiocy that can't be matched outside of these double-defection situations, for which it is typical in the exact way stench is typical of filth.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-29 19:32 phf: (actually i'm not sure if it's the right book, but i got "hara-kiri: japanese ritual suicide" by jack stewart)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-29#1662933 << correct b00k, phf . was most interesting imho re its discussion of the ~debasement~ of proper seppuku.
mircea_popescu: and there were also a bunch of germanz doing their take of french cuisine etc. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: afaik j-l gerin also either made or was making some model restaurant but i never chased it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only restaurant i ever saw in ct was something weirdly named in the middle of hartford.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-25 14:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661639 << wait, in ~connecticut~ ? they have pretty decent restaurants there, which were the top 3 ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-28 03:58 mircea_popescu: i've been contemplating the point of whether more than 1 in 1000 humans actually have need for electrical power.
phf: i believe that's already been propose in the log
mircea_popescu: there's more people dead through domestic electrocution than there's underage-married-girls dead through domestic abuse. BAN ELECTRICITY IN THE HOME!!11
mircea_popescu: who can even take the libertard bullshit seriously ?
mircea_popescu: the retarded bullshit, "here's a person for whom gatorade didn't work so now nobody may have any!"
mod6: ymmv as far as the device name... just thought this might help someone
mod6: anyway, incase anyone cares, on openbsd once I connect my FG via USB-TTL, i was able to use device 'cuaU0' to read from the FG:
phf: (actually i'm not sure if it's the right book, but i got "hara-kiri: japanese ritual suicide" by jack stewart)
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent -- the reason armstrong limit is an abolute limit on the height of the roof is because by the time it rains in your room you can no longer claim to have a roof above it.)
mircea_popescu: "i'm gonna construct an angle fiddler, it's clearly to do with the angle"
mircea_popescu: now, is there any merit to armstrong roof ~in your closet~ ? no, there fucking isn't.
mircea_popescu: point being : there's these inflection points, yes ? is there any merit to this "atmosphere indoors" notion ?
Framedragger: so that, then. :) right, quite a bit of space for stacking, heh.
Framedragger: (one example i've been sorta following is https://automicrofarm.com/ - they don't have much to show tho, not sure if ever will)
mircea_popescu: well i mean what, in the general ? of course there's merit to it, that's how... earth works.
Framedragger: aquaponics - having a (umm) self-contained plant growth and fish system for food? i'm not even sure what it is. "save lots of space" is one of the arguments iirc
mircea_popescu: it's a level of superficial idiocy that can't be matched outside of these double-defection situations, for which it is typical in the exact way stench is typical of filth.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the ridiculous item in question reserved an immense space for "motorbike garage" and a tiny space for "aquaculture" in the shape of cubic foot fishtanks ; in same room, rabbit cages, same size.
mircea_popescu: "Our proprietary-engineered design makes our underground bunkers the strongest and safest on the market. We have revolutionized the underground bunker industry by placing our main structural frame on the inside to protect your family and belongings from moisture on the outside. Ghe exterior 1/4-thick steel skin is coated with Epoxy Coal Tar to guarantee your new 10 x 20 Underground Bunker will last a lifetime." this, of cours
mircea_popescu: wtf happened here, the site's still on, still SELLING the shit. what, they saw it linked from logs, and deleted it ?
Framedragger: http://web.archive.org/web/20160311124607/http://ultimatebunker.com/wp-content/uploads/6000-sq-ft-underground-bunker.jpg great feeling when the ~whole "web" experience is a matter of using third party archive providers to dig up shit that has dissolved hence
mircea_popescu: ~how the whole "ironic" bs got started.
mircea_popescu: basically, the agent defects from a to b and then defects from b back to a sort of "skeptical a".
mircea_popescu: do you recall that ridiculous "bunker" with 30% dedicated to "motorcycles" and a few fish tanks "For food" ? that sort of cvasi-religious nonsense is the end result -- resources are diverted towards making a show of compliance with designs that are dysfunctional by their very nature.
mircea_popescu: the space to CLAIM appartenence to type b without actually incurring any of the cost.
mircea_popescu: consider the more obvious / discussed in the logs case of "nuclear war preparedness". if you model the us cca 1960 as the existence of two tribes, type a which didn't believe there's imminent risk of nuclear winter and type b which did believe there's imminent risk of nuclear winter, the fact that type b doctrine included "no need to separate from type a, we can just have some shit bolted on" allows random population member X
ben_vulpes: "resilient" and "antifragile" are the shibboleths
ben_vulpes: ah yeah. mhm, that's the one.
mircea_popescu: oh the early internet research dude
ben_vulpes: john robb, pet dissenter in the 'small wars strategy' orbit of washington
ben_vulpes: shoulda listened to robb when you had the chance.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "Taboola adheres to the Digital Advertising Alliance Self-Regulatory Principles for Online Behavioral Advertising, a program run by the Digital Advertising Alliance and the Digital Advertising Alliance Canada with the goal of providing Internet users transparency and control."
mircea_popescu: "Hostilities erupted last week when the military and the police moved to arrest Isnilon Hapilon, the Islamic States anointed leader in the Philippines and head of an Abu Sayyaf faction."
mircea_popescu: lmao wtf did they do, retrofitted air-ground missiles on medical helicopters ?
ben_vulpes: in which isis reign in the phillipines expaaands https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/29/world/asia/rodrigo-duterte-philippines-isis-marawi-militant.html
mod6: So that should conclude the collections for now. I'll be putting some effort into some fg-anal sometime soon -- maybe nothing more than some basic facts extrapolated from the test results per collection and links to the raw results.
mod6: OK here are the results from a recollection of entropy (with 'fullblock') from FG #2: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg2.ent_run1.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg2.dieharder_run1.txt
mircea_popescu: btw mod6 kickass work with the FG auditing, i gotta say.
mircea_popescu: i think at this point the entirely scammy nature of mit is established beyond possible doubt.
shinohai: "All attendees received source code for a reddit tipbot that steals all user funds at a random date in the future."
shinohai: If you neeced any more proof the whole MIT expo thing is just a troll .... "Doge Doggie" listed on page with the various other "Let's make Bitcoin liek Ethereum" scammers.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "comments on the campaign trailed followed"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha "thought leader". wtf IS WITH THEIR FACES
BingoBoingo imagining the irridescent rainbow lichens
jurov: but on the other side, there are fungi that use melatonin to grow from radiation, without need for beryllium vacuoles
mircea_popescu: prolly, colorful from all the heavy metals / ionization going on
BingoBoingo: Wonder how their speed would compare
mircea_popescu: btains energy by re-oxidizing the item.
mircea_popescu: and in other science fiction : imagine a xenomorph that actually lived off radioactive decay. it'd get to use the fabled hepta-dna arrangement, and obviously have very active teleomerase. then it could uptake whatever relevant radioisotope into special beryl vacuoles, and colimate it into a specially built "tunnel" made out of whatever oxidables arranged with the oxigen in. then the oxigens are knocked off, and the lifeform o
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : the fda was actually established in 1938, on the heels of ~100 people dying from diethylene glycol poisoning. they were trying to take sulfanilamide (dye byproduct), at the time (prior to penicillin) the only known bactericide.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how the fuck they can pretend to "democracy" an' "rule o' law" without putting those schmucks in jail is anyone's guess.
Framedragger: (on the plus side, text loads on lynx, including those transcript excerpts.)
Framedragger: finally web 69.0 standards are able to match the newest 2017 attention span of 0.25 seconds - enough to read a line. wtf!
Framedragger: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/05/22/the-accusation << OT, but what the fuck is this shit: http://i.imgur.com/e25Anbn.png do the "designers" seriously think this makes it easier to read? because that's how the eye worx? saccadic movements, bitch
a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 19:31 asciilifeform: as ben_vulpes knows well, in usa bureaucrats have personal immunity for ~everything they do on the clock (unless they get purged by the party, in which case they become liable for anything and everything, but this helps you 0 )
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-27#1632891 << https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/05/22/the-accusation
mod6: Now, I just need to re-run one more test from FG #2, then the collections will be complete, all using 'fullblock'.
mod6: I have re-run all three entropy collections from FG #1 with 'fullblock', here are the results: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.ent_run1.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.dieharder_run1.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg1.dieharder_run2.txt
ben_vulpes: puh-fuckin-thetic
ben_vulpes: pretty funny how eudaly wants to come together and support the women instead of saying anything about the (admittedly nearly epsilon) valor of the individuals attempting to exercise some meager amount of sovereignty, even if it was just to not have an assault on their commute
mircea_popescu: ah yes, check that out. complete with "call to come together" and other she-ministrations "against haet".
mircea_popescu: judging by the weapon, i take this was a white man opressing innocents as opposed to black man righteously punishing dnc defectors ?
mircea_popescu: the notion that someone somewhere takes the rappaports & "allies" seriously is so fucking alien it fails to even register as obscene. but it fucking should, because it fucking is.
mircea_popescu: this is about two thirds of the anglo "anthropology", "psychology" and "sociology" by mass.
mircea_popescu: in caragiale's words, there are waiters who've listened in on so many intellectual conversations, they can take out your average university professor, especially if they go about it quickly.
mircea_popescu: and in other obscura nobody can possibly care about, helen rappaport is a fine example indeed of the "new intellectual". television starlet without work, ended up taking a job for an "academic publisher" in her 40s, once she finally understood ~nobody cares to see her. within a decade she had absorbed all the "wiswom" and "knowleshee" that'd fit, and she was writing "books" and emanating "scholarship" of her own.
diana_coman: I still read that thing as one of the 10001 atrocious "story - advertisement" shit that I can't stand
shinohai: I like the site design, pretty clean.
mircea_popescu: and in special ben_vulpes orders : they now have a festival! http://bazavan.ro/2017/05/povestea-awake-festival/
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/and-dont-go-around-upgrading-the-testaments-either/ << Trilema - And don't go around upgrading the Testaments, either.
mircea_popescu: in other sads, google image search is ~useless for searching in specified site.
shinohai: If only there were a tool readily available that helped persons make trust decisions ....
shinohai: Well I am quite certain you will find a never-ending supply of *those* on the internet.
shinohai: So what are you working on these days?
shinohai: Apparently you've been around lurking a while, I see your name in the logs a couple of times
dvsdude: had a question back in the day on bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: pity they don't have a buck.
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know, if all those useless libertards that clicked the heart button gave him a buck, he could almost make mortgage payments.
mircea_popescu: trying to find that zaragoza destroyed fresco, of which i'm sure i wrote, i ended up with, among other detritus, http://trilema.com/2012/criptograma-starii-lucrurilor-celor-moi-de-mijloc/
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/26/the-new-public-library-evermore-public-everless-library/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The new public library: evermore public, everless library.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other disadvantages of kissing all the random chicks / hanging out with "lesbians", i got the worst fucking cold ;/
BingoBoingo presently surprised with performance of "tapcon" masonry drill bit performance in 12v drill. Slow, but no slower than hammer drill. Tis possible the space between compact drill and full blown rotary hammer is without future
asciilifeform: mod6: it is probably possible to write a treatise re how proper programming is the art of the 'unsexy', of necessary but unexciting work , like well-mopped floor or well-peeled potato
asciilifeform: mod6: possibly it needs to be simpler, then, intent is that no 'awe' should result from reading it, it oughta be screamingly obvious
mod6: I read through ffa, and it 'makes sense' to me as far as what you're doing in most cases -- as I understand the intent of the expressions. but i stand in awe, especially after trying my own hand at Ada, at what you've produced.
mod6: i really started getting into ada like... maybe a month or to ago, even though I kinda started nosing through the Ada 95 Ref book a while before.
mod6: aha, yeah, i do the same sometimes too.
mircea_popescu: while you were still doing new material, this was merely tedious and unpleasant ; but since you're doing re-runs these days it's simply insufferable. ima take you off ignore now, but plox to bear in mind that too much dumbalf in the mix actually makes talking to you -ev.
mircea_popescu: but he pivots seamlessly, like duck in water, or if you prefer like textbook idiot : there's absolutely no sign whatsoever that all the time wasted on educating it left any kind of mark whatsoever -- a sad suspicion confirmed by the cyclical nature of the nonsense. so he'll proceed to defend the new half second half baked "idea" in the same manner.
mircea_popescu: but then, once however many also intelligent, also with interesting things to say folks have wasted however many hours of their life showing dumbalf that indeed, dumb=dumb and stupid=stupid, dumbalf will just spend ANOTHER half second to come up with another bit of nonsense, vaguely related if related at all, and pivot to that.
mircea_popescu: as it happens, dumbalf wishes to spend all its time, and if possible everyone else's time, engaged in the following infantile game : it will spend about half a second to come up with some strong statement that's evidently false, entirely predicated on ignorance, pure nonsense. then he'll defend it tooth and nail, for hours if need be, exploring every nook and cranny of stupid shit that could be said to defend stupid shit. thi
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is this : you're an intelligent fellow that has interesting things to say, sometimes. some other times, however, you metamorphosize into dumbalf. i have no idea if it's the phases of the moon or what you ate that day or what, but the change is palpable.
asciilifeform: mod6: whole thing is a quite painful experience until it begins to dawn on you why the various 'fascisms' are there.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^ put at the head of your main body, and see what ends up barfing << im gonna try this and see if that helps a bit more.
asciilifeform: for instance, the almost ubiquitous c-ism, of creating a pointer (ada 'access') variable on a procedure's local (stack) and passing it to something -- anything -- is illegal
asciilifeform: ( gotta prove to the compiler that pointer under NO circumstances can wander 'off the reservation', and it will reject certain obviously 'to naked eye' valid uses, and you will tear hair out )
asciilifeform: you will run against the 'access' (pointer) visibility rules, which are downright 'fascist'
mod6: Oh yeha, for sure, normally, i wouldn't do such a thing. but i'm just trying to grab the reins at this point. just get ~something~ to actually work.
asciilifeform: ^ put at the head of your main body, and see what ends up barfing
asciilifeform: i recommend to avoid unboundedstring and other runtime-heaptronic types, esp for n00bz
mod6: so then i took a step back. decided to do something like what the initial steps of my V do; list the contents of a directory, throw the filenames into a list using Doubly_Linked_Lists(Unbounded_String) and then attempt to pass them to another function that does further parsing.
asciilifeform: ada generics are interesting, they are not like cpp templates, not mere string substitution -- the thing actually has to prove correct for any legal invocation, anywhere
mod6: i set out to do something similar to what phf had been doing by writing some tests utilizing ffa. but then i couldn't figure out how to even make a package with function or procedure that used a generic type.
asciilifeform: to asciilifeform's shame , he instrumented the proggy in gdb, found nothing useful, in the end found with strace.
asciilifeform: because such is the rule, it has to have room for max possible size...
asciilifeform: and the proggy will try to ALLOCATE THAT PER FZ
asciilifeform: mod6: but i forgot the rule that if you type Blah(Optional : SomeMachineType := itsdefaultvalue) is record ....
asciilifeform: mod6: somewhat relatedly, chased bug in ffa for a ~week : wanted to make FZ.Z a trimmable ( e.g. length set as optional param ) so as to enable karatsubaization (which does 0 useful without being able to, for it and nothing else, constrain the lenght of FZ)
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other non-news, http://www.nihamkin.com/2016/10/23/writing-linux-modules-in-ada-part-1
shinohai: I haz agiteated the locals
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo So my consensus piece got removed from r/bitcoin, r/btc, and was DV'd into oblivion on r/buttcoin though it is still there.
BingoBoingo: Sure the car may be French, but it's yours and the level 1337 GUARDIAN REDDITARD is going to know it
mircea_popescu: i'd vote for a guy who beat up a redditard. how bad can he be ? he got the basics right.
mircea_popescu: i trust the pantsuit clown party is well butthurt over the serious threat to ourdemocracy presented by inept child behaviour meeting some sort of correction in practice.
mircea_popescu: most puns dun work, most wisdom is folly, sometrhing something the holly./
ben_vulpes: this is another word for terroir?
mircea_popescu: anyway. the problem with wine is that better wine and expensive wine do not well correlate. for the past 40 or so years europe sat on a lake of wine. you can have perfectly fine wines for the cost of the bottling, you can also spend as-much-as-you-want for idiot veblen americana.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes fwiw there's a "new, better, altenrative" for everything every week. kinda what the you know, "people ready with a gameplan if they suddenly got rich" spend their time with.
ben_vulpes: all downhill from there
asciilifeform: ( the apotheosis moment of segway was when the chump who bought the co from the original sc4mz0r, finally drove his personal unit off a tall cliff ! )
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if the original golden toilet of this genre, 'segway', had not bombed
asciilifeform: what exactly is the point of a vehicle that maxes out at 'speed of runner' ?
ben_vulpes: when i could muster the shits to get down to "ev summit" or whateverthefuck they called it someone was noodling around on one
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Then not a plough, but a trencher
BingoBoingo: Nah, power comes from rear wheel, would have to completely reverse the drivetrain and make front wheel drive
asciilifeform: possibly no other mods needed..
ben_vulpes: https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/25/15690040/imzy-social-network-nicer-reddit-shutdown << die everyone and everything die
BingoBoingo: Neat little bike, and more fun than a barrel of monkeys to ride, evidenced by the grown men squealing like ten-year-old girls when they grab a fistful of throttle and try to twist it off. Thats something I do not recommend trying right away until you get a feel for it, cause the front end needs very little encouragement to come off the ground." << This thing is screaming for a sleeve hitch and moldboard plough
BingoBoingo: In other research, OMG A TWO WHEELED TRACTOR!!! https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/yamaha/2016-2017-yamaha-tw200-ar171244.html
BingoBoingo: What happens is they anchor it to the ground without any consideration for the local frost depth or drainage, and then seasons change
asciilifeform: looked exactly like the tin can children put on steam kettle and then into ice water, to watch implode
BingoBoingo: In other surprises, while digging to create point for anchoring tin shed in situ a wild concrete pad was found under shed. For ~15 years of ownership, twas ASSumed that metal shed was simply plopped down onto the dirt.
asciilifeform: the login form has the appearance of handwritten html, with no obvious crapolade, which is somewhat unusual.
BingoBoingo: You mean "weather rockets" for moderate rebel "meteorology experiments"
asciilifeform: and of what, gotta wonder, is the 'inventory'.
asciilifeform: 'We can save lives in Somalia Our job today is not to just avert the imminent famine, but to keep hope alive.' lol
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in dreamerland, "Join us on "Style Code Live" daily to connect, shop and chat live with fashion designers, beauty experts and celebrities! Discover today's best beauty hacks and the top style secrets!"
asciilifeform: IamAGirlsoInever: it seems that you have mistook the address. the kindergarten door is three doors down.
IamAGirlsoInever: it of course blew my system away, but when I tested against everybody elses readers, their were bad too.
asciilifeform: what's that got to do with thebitcoin.foundation ?
IamAGirlsoInever: Link? thebitcoin.foundation vs bitcoin.foundation?
asciilifeform: post. example. of something you tested. and the test result.
asciilifeform: demonstrate an output of these tests ?
IamAGirlsoInever: If I had some coins I would probably use them to attempt to find either cracks or other bugs in reference implementations. I could always just use the testnet, or setup my own.
IamAGirlsoInever: I am always honestly dishonest. I really can't tell a lie very well, so I just tell the truth and use that to lie.
IamAGirlsoInever: they should not. I'm not offering anything in return.
IamAGirlsoInever: ok, spam then, don't know what will happen though, prolly get ignored as it should.