erlehmann: bloodletting, yes. there are rare diseases where it can work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemochromatosis
asciilifeform: extracting the Stone of Folly ?
asciilifeform: the taking of antimony pill ?
asciilifeform: advocating the ~expanded~ use of prngs.
erlehmann: but then again i was sceptical of weev's aryan awakening at first as well
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 18:37 asciilifeform: 'Generating large amounts of truly random data is expensive. Fortunately, truly random data can be simulated by pseudorandom data produced by a stream cipher from a much smaller key. (Even better, slight deficiencies in the randomness of the cipher key do not compromise security.) The literature contains several scalable ciphers....' -- djb et al
erlehmann: i believed the suggestion to let NIST generate your private key was sarcasm
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i have nfi what to make of djb at this point. phuctor is the world's largest public showcase of his 'smooth parts of integers' algo, but he refused -- repeatedly -- to answer main re same. and now he's signed his name to a paper full of howlers, e.g. 'let usg nist generate your private key'
erlehmann: phf i believe redo is an unpolished gem. sadly, many people implement it ALMOST correctly and then do something stupid
erlehmann: phf if you want to learn about redo, i suggest to: 1. read djb's notes. 2. read http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/bin/redo-sh.html and my man page 3. avoid apenwarr's unmaintained implementation (it is the only one that got some popularity, but massively shitty)
erlehmann: second: “i have written a redo implementation, does it work correctly?”, i again lost him. he suggested to meet at a place at a time during the conference and i thought i knew the place but apparently i erred because there was no place with the name i thought he had said.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 14:17 asciilifeform: in recent sads, 'Our batch prime-generation algorithm suggests that, to help reduce energy consumption and protect the environment, all users of RSA—including users of traditional pre-quantum RSA—should delegate their key-generation computa- tions to NIST or another trusted third party. This speed improvement would also allow users to generate new RSA keys and erase old RSA keys more frequently, limiting the damage of key theft.'
erlehmann: i think the main reason for me implementing and using redo is that the scripts work fine without all the logic. it is just an optimization.
erlehmann: as the saying goes in german: wenn du einen hammer hast, kannst du die ganze welt nageln!
erlehmann: regarding redo: needing dependencies is not limited to compiling programs. datasets are also something. i build my website with redo. i have managed converted media files with redo. i would not want to wait hours for the re-encoding of each file every time i rebuild a web site.
asciilifeform: i'll use a tabcompleteless shell after i start shitting in holes in the ground.
erlehmann: rc shell grammar is listed on the man page. very small. nice. monkey like.
erlehmann: rlwrap sh then
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever written anything where the ~naked~ build -- no 'intelligence' -- would be >250 ln of bash
asciilifeform: because the thing is monolithic
asciilifeform: and make systems do NOTHING to help there anyway
asciilifeform: the one possible exception might be ~massive~ fpga floor layouts
asciilifeform: and am quite happy to have entire build process repeat every single time the button is pushed
asciilifeform: i gotta admit : i don't consider the problem to be a very interesting one
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1664879 << v is -- properly considered -- an abstract concept, quite divorceable from the abominations of gnudiff/patch and gpg
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 14:12 mircea_popescu: i suspect the idea is that systems which require something like make are broken anyway.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 00:35 erlehmann: asciilifeform do you have an opinion on DJB redo? or maybe even a simpler design? i would only trust my own implementation and MAYBE the one from jonathan de boyne pollard (although he requires a C++ compiler as a dependency, lol)
phf: so the way it should really be solved is that i need to better understand colorizing code (which i lifted from elsewhere) so that i can wrap the whole thing in pre and just format it without tables by doing <blame ...> <lineno ...> <line>
erlehmann: phf the reasons seems to be that every single line on the right side is wrapped in <pre> and <span>
phf: hmm, k. i haven't paid much attention to that styling, because i don't think anyone's using it, including myself. the press part definitely needs more ux work
phf: well that was a bad example because the file is all genesis
phf: it does an equivalent of patch, but without calling out to c programs and without the result (or intermediate steps) touching the file system at any point
erlehmann: well, vdiff would never be possible if diff and patch were definite about their inputs
phf: for sure, btcbase is probably the most aggressive, because there's a very restricted state machine for parsing, but there's still some ambiguity in recognition that's an artifact of diff/patch being dodgy
erlehmann: v looks like a nice approach as far as i can see (and is the reason i chose to join #trilema), but as i commented, i suspect there exist parser differentials
phf: there's a handful of those, for example in the experimental there's three patches from polarbeard, a guy who joined as we were regriding a bunch of shit, so he had to update his patches a bunch of times and then gave up. nobody cared to reintegrate his patches properly yet
erlehmann: asciilifeform do you have an opinion on DJB redo? or maybe even a simpler design? i would only trust my own implementation and MAYBE the one from jonathan de boyne pollard (although he requires a C++ compiler as a dependency, lol)
phf: erlehmann: so the arrow from nowhere basically means that the patch is broken, because it requires an antecedent that's missing
erlehmann: phf what does the arrow at the right mean? http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot&search=&action=update
erlehmann: ah funny, it does not work with a slash at the end
erlehmann: phf your patch visualizer linked here http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is apparently gone
erlehmann: thus the remark with the star trek replicators, which he likened to compilers. just do it yourself.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-16 23:36 asciilifeform: leaving entirely aside the question of whether ice40 can in fact be made to do anything useful with the 'open' toolchain discussed earlier, or whether a toolchain that required clang, llvm, and ten other poetteringesque abortions is 'open'
asciilifeform: latest twist was that some d00dz ~partially~ reversed lattice's toolchain. but their shit ~doesn't work, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-16#1604097
erlehmann: i once met rms at a conference and asked him about viability of free hardware. his answer was along the lines of 1. apparently non-free hardware has worked for decades 2. whoever makes your board can still subvert your trustworthy design, you can't check that 3. maybe if we have star-trek-style replicators one day, hahaha
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 13:35 asciilifeform: mepian: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551507 << please read the xilinx threads .
a111: Logged on 2015-06-17 13:17 asciilifeform: you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric;
a111: Logged on 2014-12-11 01:52 asciilifeform: decimation: notice that all known fpga manufacturers (xilinx, altera, lattice, a few others) have the same business model
asciilifeform: the history doesn't change.
asciilifeform: you really gotta read the logs, erlehmann
asciilifeform: problem is, THEY DON'T EXIST
asciilifeform: but on the other hand it is a very small cpld, and runs a pretty simple state machine, whose honest function is verifiable by the operator with reasonable effort
erlehmann: for some reason i thought of asciilifeform when i learned about the MNT VA2000 amiga graphics card
asciilifeform: ( open source, and author sells the pcb, so you don't have to necessarily make the pcb by hand )
phf: ascii's approach was to put custom firmware into an old keyboard, so that's half way there
erlehmann: i suspect the effect is not as notable for other people as for me, but qwertz hurts, neo2 does not.
erlehmann: asciilifeform i guess you cannot control your computing experience? the answer from the boss of my boss to “can i install linux on the macbook to get a sane keyboard layout” was “got it, you get a thinkpad”
phf: yeah, likewise the whole back and forth killed it for me.
asciilifeform: having to ever go back and forth -- is what nukes the whole 'custom keyboard' thing for many folx (incl. asciilifeform)
phf: well, that was a while ago (i switched back almost a decade ago), but even now more so now i spend a lot of time, working on other people's machines (i.e. developers that are stuck or need help or whatever)
asciilifeform: so then you don't have your layout. ~unless~ you did it in hardware.
erlehmann: i can do qwertz still. on my work laptop i have not even changed the keycaps.
erlehmann: same for OS X, apparently. my boss told me he tried to use it there and it was a pain due to something i cannot remember.
erlehmann: two exes of mine learned neo2 immediately after i explained the concept. one of them was often frustrated because her work computer was running windows and apparently windows + keyboard layout = shitcock
erlehmann: phf i still use the neo2 keyboard layout. it has several advantages over qwert(y|z) for me: 1. less strain put on my hands 2. useless caps lock replaced with another mod key 3. built-in layers for useful unicode 4. compose in the base layout
erlehmann: dear diary, yesterday a person on IRC asked me if i am jealous after i referred to ethereum as a scam again. jealous, i asked. yes, she answered, jealous of people who invest in cryptocurrencies!
asciilifeform: then screw heat sink back on.
asciilifeform: mod6: another tip : when playing with fg & scope/logic analyzer, it is convenient to turn it upside-down and sink the 'teeth' into a breadboard
mod6: sure, ok. it does seem, that when i clip on to that with the crock, and the probe, it gets square just fine. i read that means that it's "compensated" correctly.
asciilifeform: mod6: play with the test clip on the scope ( the thing immediately to the right of ch4 bnc jack ) first
mod6: not sure about the 'out'
asciilifeform: mod6: after you have the basics , everything else will make sense.
mod6: ok makes sense to what im seeing on the screen
mod6: they were set to 10x, gonna see if turning 'em down to 1 shows me anything different
mod6: does the clk still look ok?
asciilifeform: is the blue input ac-coupled by any chance ?
asciilifeform: you can then use it as a manual sharp-needle-poke
asciilifeform: ( you do NOT want a long wire between ground clip and the circuit )
asciilifeform: ( it is tied to the ground plane )
mod6: yeah, i rigged that up, but im having trouble with the space. i suppose i could elminate the USB-TTL for power and just use 5v from Dr. Meter tho right?
asciilifeform: if you want to see something closer to the actual signal
asciilifeform: get rid of the massive cable / multiple clip-to-cable joints
mod6: i've since, just wanna look at the clock, see if i've got it hooked up right. i've got probe on channel one connected to 'clk' pin. probe's crock is attached to a lead coming off 'gnd' pin.
asciilifeform: mod6: you wouln't leave 1 lead off voltmeter hanging in the air, wouldja? same idea.
asciilifeform: shield - to the gnd clip
asciilifeform: to what did you attach the black crocodile ?
asciilifeform: ( there are no sinusoids to be had on that board )
mod6: sorry for the yuuuge
asciilifeform: they're why a misbauded FG is nogood as an rng
asciilifeform: ( output has peridic component !! -- the start/stop bits )
asciilifeform: ( not, as you can already guess, contiguously -- but when there's a byte ready )
asciilifeform: what do you hope to see on the scope, mod6 ? thing puts out 115200,8,1,noparity
mod6: this scope has a usb port, so i dropped in the USB to see if I can get the output saved on there. gotta rtfm i think
asciilifeform: all signals on the board (other than the 2 coming from rngs ) are in that clock domain
asciilifeform: mod6: put the trigger on clock (CLK) pin
mod6: got the probe setup on the out pin. been waiting to try this. just didn't incause I fuck it up.
asciilifeform: ( you want logic analyzer, or at the very minumum : storage scope , for this , not much periodic wave to be had on FG )
mod6: got this FG #2 hooked up to the scope
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the tiresome faggots who keedp going "oh mom, i too could be an atlas couldn't i ? i'm tall enough ?" are no fucking object of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: maleness in its you know, male form is doing fucking fine, and doesn'tr care about the stupid tea party.
mircea_popescu: self important little cunts. what the everloving fuck, "look at me, i live without a roof, WE HAVE DEPRECATED ROOVES!!11"
mircea_popescu: "We are killing masculinity. Maleness in all its forms has been deprecated as an outdated bit of software. Something to be rewritten for the modern world."
ben_vulpes: that's the quote, yes
asciilifeform: they eat carrion, yes.
asciilifeform: and it also isn't clear to me why -- even when the corpse really Musted Die -- maggots are somehow 'respectable'
mircea_popescu: which is the ~only criteria of respectability.
mircea_popescu: but if i had to guess i'd say a larger % of all-wealth-controlled-by-russians belongs to "criminals" and "terrorists" than is the case of the us.
asciilifeform: not clear, at least to asciilifeform's naked eye, that they 'got out', or that the box even has an out-hole
mircea_popescu: well, su really needed new government. the "socialist" bullshit only runs so far.
a111: Logged on 2014-01-26 19:37 asciilifeform: just as the chinese replied, in '89, to 'why tanks?', with 'we aren't the u.s., can't afford warehouses full of "humane" riot gear'
mircea_popescu: fucking "demonstrations" and whatnot. what are they "demonstrating" ? that "oh look, you're not going to drive the tanks through us!11 like you fucking should!!111 awell, i guess you're not fit to rule then huh."
mircea_popescu: before growing up to be stupid, kids spend their childhood begging for some guidance. and so following.
mircea_popescu: nor is this only the problem of governance. for years before sham ustardian marriage ends in divorce wife begs for some checks, which husband doesn't provide because idiot ; but then really has no one else to blame.
mircea_popescu: and the need for the cure is constantly signalled, and the cure always is exactly that : round them all up and hang them.
asciilifeform: the larger point also good one -- any problem ( short of perhaps asteroid ) starts small and spends good chunk of its life cycle in curable phase
mircea_popescu: well that's the pov.
mircea_popescu: and i don't seem to recall his problems with the fucking reds.
mircea_popescu: what he did was, he failed to punish them for their misbehaviour, from which they concluded, quite in the infantile manner of subhumans, that tyhey had done nothing wrong
mircea_popescu: the populace had to have a clear statement of its fault, and punishment comensurate. this is what government is.
mircea_popescu: had he fired all available artillery into the crowd, there'd have been no fucking bs.
asciilifeform: i.e. followed the pitchforks-vs-landsknecht dynamic pictured above
mircea_popescu: this was 1896. the REASON 1917 happened was that nicholas was a fucktard in 1896.
mircea_popescu: 500k idiots who stampede themselves to death vs hussar regiments ? really ?
asciilifeform: when you have stampedes in the capital, you ( ruler/civ1player ) Have A Problem ; just as d00d with tumour that is large enough to be palpable, has problem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the khodynka field poorfucktardfest.
mircea_popescu: you don't fucking apologize to the cow herd for IT having stampeded.
mircea_popescu would have ordered ALL the participants hung. what did czar do ? apologize ?
asciilifeform: the ecuador war ?
mircea_popescu: and it's not like they're not asking for it and everything.
asciilifeform: one tricky bit, afaik, is that the proverbial sacks of gold do not 'levantar el pueblo' under any circumstances at all; instead they immediately grow legs and walk, walk away to a faraway place and never again seen
mircea_popescu: exactly how it appeared in moscow, too. had the tzar fucking hung twenty million uppity bitches, starting with half of georgia, there'd have not been any problem.
mircea_popescu: THAT is how they appear, when there's too much wealth and too little noose for the poor to go with it.
mircea_popescu: dude's epitaph is this : he once claimed that when he took power there were all these sacks of gold and dollars and wealth, "hanging around, clearly being misused -- cuz not used to levantar el pueblo" etc.
asciilifeform: picture if the ameritourism were to evaporate in cr. how long before it peronizes.
mircea_popescu: so they go around you know, "we did it argentina!! sun rise!!!" and inqualifiably dumb shit like that.
mircea_popescu: it's what distinguishes say reddit and to some degree twitter from the average fucktard forum / website. dudes on reddit actually developed some sort of idiotarian self-identity on top of everything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever determine why in cr 'naive', but in ar 'militant idiotic' ? is the idiocy-ray emitter in antarctica, or wat
mircea_popescu: young people are going to be stupid, this is a given. might as well deal with the naive than with the millitantly idiotic.
asciilifeform: i'd suppose that mircea_popescu is there for the good weather, not for the company of tree-dwellers
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to cr, it's kinda funny. i recall their currency being reasonably stable, but since i've been here it shed about 10% against the dollar. so the natl bank is all "wtf is wrong with you people", put 1bn of the reserve on the market, etc.
asciilifeform: ( why it remains - i have nfi; perhaps intel exec gurlz to holdthefort etc )
asciilifeform: 'On the heels of last year’s closure of chip manufacturer Intel‘s assembly plant in Costa Rica, the company announced Monday that it’s opening a new Client Computing Group (CCG) in Costa Rica. The new unit will be responsible mostly for developing tablets and PCs.' (2015)
asciilifeform: 'See how the Intel® She Will Connect program is helping women change their lives.' << didjaknow!!
mircea_popescu: they really don't have much of a clue. happy go lucky sort of tree dwellers.
asciilifeform: 'More than 60 percent of K-12 teachers in Costa Rica have participated in this program since the program started in 2000...'
asciilifeform: 'The Intel® Teach Program helps teachers integrate technology into their classrooms to enhance student learning. In Costa Rica, the Intel Teach Program is coordinated in collaboration with the Ministry of Public Education, was implemented by the Omar Dengo Foundation, and now is executed by CECC-SICA.'
mircea_popescu: anyway, they export some ic / medical gear. but plenty of coffee banana etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-27#1648233 << that was on the grounds, ECONOMIX faculty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, they publish the usual crud. it's where you pick up the girlies, mostly.
mircea_popescu: "highest level of foreign direct investment per capita of latin maerica", ie, a fine definition of whether you're poor or not is whether you have a gf here holding down a fort.
asciilifeform: still doesn't explain why university. who attends it ? anyone publishes in it ? how does the setup work.
asciilifeform: aaah so it's one of those 'rich because that's where money goes to sit on the beach' places.
mircea_popescu: so you know, made 50bn gdp, bout same as panama, 4x nicaragua. which is how come all the chicks in strip joints are nigaraguaneans.
mircea_popescu: you do realise that at least half the 50 us states are below average, in the sense most countries actually are doing better, yes ?
asciilifeform: i had nfi there were 500mn usd in all of cr, not merely the obscure ( i had nfi it existed...) ucr
mircea_popescu: but the scandal exposed a coupla lulz, such as that the ucr spends 80% (!!!) of its income to pay salaries, and that income is ~500mn a year.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz ~nobody cares about : ucr (universidad de costa rica) is this massively dominant player. apparently it has 3`623 non-tenured, 1`726 tenured faculty. the former are bitchin' that they want "the same salary conditions" as the latter, which is very much representative of latino mental simplicity.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> whole piece needs a re-read, lotta e2l weird in there. << re-read v1
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how that worked, but it's pretty far out there.
phf: maybe they are planning on going for michelle 2020 after all
mircea_popescu: wtf is "corruption" ? people-other-than-usg having control over property!!11
asciilifeform: paper-gold is mixed into the market valuation of all-gold, paper-bitcoin (though it only works on bottom half of bell curve...) into price of actual-bitcoin, but art forgers are hunted like terrorists, Because Reasons.
phf: inflation is a dynamic process, so it's neither a scalar nor not a scalar
a111: Logged on 2015-08-22 14:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248273 << in my eyes, a ~skilled~ art forger is a hero second only to a hypothetical fella who puts an actual bullet through a bilderberger. why, exactly, should i have any sympathy for the folks hitching a ride in the only 100% effective inflation shelter known, at the expense of literally everybody else ?
shinohai lives in 105 yr old house, but revels in the whole "no formaldehyde" smell.
asciilifeform: they feel like houses on home planet ( proper height of ceiling, the correct 100+ y.o. 'old sofa' smell, steam heat, etc )
asciilifeform: phf: i've been inside a bunch of these, but only on embassy expo day
phf: those houses are nifty, because built by sane people until a contractor gets to "renovate" the interior
phf: i've been to social events at these houses, and they are just glorified mcmansions. i was actually wondering about these mega-houses last time i recently took a trip to Fallingwater. who now among "the wealthy" is building these kaufmann residences that in 100 years time people will want to visit?
asciilifeform: in other noose, obummer buys 8.1m $ mega-house.
asciilifeform: 'it sits on my front bus and can do whatever it wants and has 400 cores that run fuckknkwswhat, but at least the util for loading up (some) of the cores with liquishit, is open source!!'
asciilifeform: the blobuline nics ditto
asciilifeform: it blows my mind that folx consider these somehow 'open'.
mircea_popescu: whole piece needs a re-read, lotta e2l weird in there.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "the accord which being quit" ?
BingoBoingo: Well maybe commenter ends up reporting on story in the comments?
mircea_popescu: i suppose could keep calling the everyone in dnc to "comment on" the thing. sort-of like how fake news / new york times does it...
BingoBoingo: I may have to carve out the time to see it.
mircea_popescu: notbad comedy. somewhat in the vein of leslie nielsen's stuff.
mircea_popescu: btw, did you see the hebrew hammer ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-02#1664465 << what the label says, within a coupla feet of the thing. no idea what your definition of "porn chicks" is, but the item here discussed is 15 to 30yo female, no further filters.
ben_vulpes: but i have at least managed to rid myself of the apple dep
asciilifeform: there is no opendrivered gpu worth half a shit
ben_vulpes: VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" at least had the system booting, ="nouveau" hung as described
ben_vulpes: intel i7, nvidia geforce 550 ti, and as for "which kernel" i do not properly know how to answer the question but built with CHOST="x86_64-gentoo-linux-gnu"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: latest sojurn hung at "Booting the kernel."
ben_vulpes: halfheartedly, entirely deflated dick in hand, bantuized the thing. worked, but...could not muster the spirit to continue with hardware so degraded
ben_vulpes: buying a new video card just to slice a part of the possibility space off
mircea_popescu: and speaking of the "новые высоты прогресса и цивилизации", it can't quite escape one's notice that EVERY SINGLE FEMALE of reproductive age without exception lives in this thing where the bed is always within physical reach.
shinohai: I am not exactly enabled yet but will be putting in the work asap
asciilifeform: now if other FG-enabled folx would do same !
asciilifeform: the maggots have been eating it for decades.
asciilifeform: ( though... b. pascal might contend for the title )
mod6: "In his paper, Pearson gave several interesting examples of the previous misuse of statistics; and he also proved that certain runs at roulette (which he had experienced during two weeks at Monte Carlo in 1892) were so far from the expected frequencies that odds against the assumption of an honest wheel were some 10^29 to one!"
phf: built into the LaTeX format by babel. ” etc.
phf: “e-TeX is assumed nowadays by everything other than 'pure' plain TeX. AS
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/01/the-ethereum-market-cap-fallacy/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The Ethereum market cap fallacy.
asciilifeform: so as to make massive heap on the guillotine
asciilifeform: i suppose europe's equiv to this was the old story that marie & louis supposedly didn't shit for a week prior to heads-off
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is viable only in the very restricted sense of the jp legend of the d00d who swallowed a stone ahead of his beheading so as to chip the sword
Framedragger: solitary and/or solipsistic (where person assumes there is no republic)
mircea_popescu: there are many blessings!
mircea_popescu: "oh, can't take it with you" "wanna bet ? fucking imbecile lazy schoolboy, oh what's the teacher gonna do, flunk all of us. you'd better fucking believe it, what!"
mircea_popescu: sure. by the time republican's lived his lifetime in exile without the republic, what's he to do ? pile it up and burn it all ?
Framedragger: to the*
Framedragger: i think there was an altruistic / sentimental component, so the case cannot be reduced the above, which (on its own) of course stands (i.e. agree fully)
mircea_popescu: it is a false notion. there is no value in the herds other than of usage. unless you're using the sheep, the libertards, to spin some wheel, they are 0, not epsilon.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 17:43 Framedragger: "As for the ultimate fate of the site, I'll have more to say about that soon. Delicious has over a billion bookmarks and is a fascinating piece of web history. Even Yahoo, for whom mismanagement is usually effortless, had to work hard to keep Delicious down. I bought it in part so it wouldn’t disappear from the web."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664318 << this naive belief that the detritus of human horde existence has specific value per quanta is how most old jews (ie, nonstupiud, nonpoor, alone republicans, see http://trilema.com/the-pawnbroker ) finally spend (ie, return to the socialist empire) their accumulated capital.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 17:41 asciilifeform: ^ surprisingly nonidiotic response to a popular schneierism going around at the time
mircea_popescu: and that's why stabbing them in the neck "for no reason" and "that was totally uncalled for" while they're riding the state car is the ~best way to serve the republic.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:48 pete_dushenski: wtf kind a braindeads are pumping eth to these levels anyways. do govs really have that much fiat left to wash trade with ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664279 << it's very easy to get a bunch of "consensus"-oriented, state-compliant dork with no money to agree to anything, no matter how nonsensical it is. it's not expensive, either, that's why said dorks are the wet dream of any socialism.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-01 16:46 pete_dushenski: could be $ethereum! which has HALF the market cap of bitcoin donchaknow
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664275 << and the fucktards actually say that with a straight5 face.
asciilifeform: they're a sweet dream to interface to/from microcontroller, also
mircea_popescu still buys ps2 kbd/mouse to this day, but they;ve apparently become rare
asciilifeform: you will notice, there is no /dev/ps2 you could 'cat' from on linux box.