mircea_popescu: lobbes what's thjat mean, they match up to 1% of your income ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666464 << assbot did archival back then https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/3YZ2895.txt
lobbes: In other not-news, 401ks are still scams. Accepted offer to convert from $conractor=> $employee at current job. Had to wade through many $pdfs to see fine print: "new employees are -automatically- enrolled at 1%!!1"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666449 << linked more or less wholly for that detail. i gotta wonder, how many of these 'moon units' walking around nao
trinque: dm0n: hello, who goes there?
mircea_popescu: because why the fuck would inept contractor now in jail pick qntra ? NOBODY HEARD OF IT!!!1 and $assorted-excuses, all of which squarely come back to "hey, at least you wouldn't be in jail today".
mircea_popescu: and besides, they've successfulyl thrown the curve, ALL $item are equally shitty so whatcha gonna pick and choose hm ?
mircea_popescu: and if experience with the empire of "i just want to" lazy idiots is any guide, they're DEFINITELY not going to "get in trouble for buying microsoft". because "nobody could have predicted" and "they were just doing their job" which "hey man, it's just a gig, it's not my life!"
mircea_popescu: they pretend to be simply stupid.
trinque: "the intercept" is meanwhile very much not a propaganda outlet / honeypot.
mircea_popescu: kinda how fuckgoats even got started, their we-are-idiots naming conventions.
trinque: these are names now.
mircea_popescu: also, imbeciles, really, they published originals ? because why, nobody owns a single fucking secretary anymore they're so god damned rich ?
mircea_popescu: awww, but i thought nobody ever tampers with usg elections and the proposition "was discredited" and etc!!1
shinohai: Not too bad. Another boring, rainy day here.
a111: Logged on 2014-05-04 02:21 asciilifeform: kgb typewriter fingerprints, the famous yellow dots in colour laser printer, this crap - 'history does not repeat, but it rhymes.'
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'btcde', 'krk', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'
trinque: http://archive.is/ol9m4 << "The dollar index touched a seven-month low ahead of testimony before Congress from former FBI director James Comey on Thursday."
trinque: works better in this environment, and I understand why the notion is revolting.
trinque: I've seen instances before where a guy made a tool, went around to a few folks showing them "the greatestest X" thinking "they're smart, will pick up my tool and use"
asciilifeform: we don't presently know of any other means of making worthwhile things, sadly.
trinque: no, only the latter item is not made by single monk toiling alone
asciilifeform: ( the two, i maintain, are not unrelated )
asciilifeform: no republican comp, either
trinque: thus there is no republican linux.
asciilifeform: the next fella gets your thing and is ordered to 'make X run..' etc
asciilifeform: but indeed there exists this marvelous world of items folx made 'because were made to', 'use what you gotta', 'deadline', 'pays the rent', etc. these items are called, generally : shitware.
asciilifeform: eh hey i got another room where i do things for pay, and there are all kinds of horrors there, even winblowz vm
mircea_popescu: it's a fortunate thing, then, that nobody's making you do anything.
trinque: point being, someone will have to argue the merits of stacking blocks on linux, and all the other turds contained in the term.
asciilifeform: one could ask for, i suppose, 'i dun want to consciously mine on orphan chain', but this is not up to you, and in the degenerate case it reduces to... asking to be stupider
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 01:35 trinque: to have one's life's work end up on the longest chain, and not discarded.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666370 << this is quite fundamentally unknowable. e.g., europe was so very certain that it lives on longest chain... and then poof!!!
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 01:27 mircea_popescu: dos is probably the last capsulable item. and it has no broadband.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666358 << phunphakt: dos drivers (tsr!) exist for ~all recent nic chipsets. i don't even know why, but they do. they figure in my eternal 'reverse rtlink GB chip' thing.
trinque: to have one's life's work end up on the longest chain, and not discarded.
asciilifeform: trinque: there was a thread, at one point, with philosophical puzzle -- if chained to wheelbarrow at butugychag, would you rather have one with spikes on handles, or not. or something to this effect.
trinque: one advantage of being one of the least educated guys here. "my life is wasted" happened ~decade ago.
trinque: not as if I wouldn't like there to be recourse here.
trinque: you can't recall the "but intel nics" loop yourself?
mircea_popescu: dos is probably the last capsulable item. and it has no broadband.
mircea_popescu: it's "decent starts" all the way down.
mircea_popescu: "oh, but we patch that". sure you do. and who's gonna feed the boy genius that manages all the patchcomplexity ?
mircea_popescu: i don't. there's nothing to capsule. have some lulz-debian with their epic rngs capsuled ? noty.
asciilifeform: not if you actually ~work~ with the comp.
asciilifeform: because there isn't actually an alternative.
asciilifeform: i speak of gentoo in past tense. but it remains that every box i will ever, likely, live to use , will still be made from bricks of the ruins of gentoo, and not from anything else.
asciilifeform: trinque: to the extent gentoo was interesting, it was because it enabled ~nonstandardization~.
trinque: considering the million years worth of surprise, I'm inclined to believe that standardization on gentoo or whatever else is insane.
asciilifeform: trinque: in the multiGB tub of liquishit, there are million years' worth of 'surprise'
trinque: point being how does one not say to himself, "if connected to net, what you've got there is an NSA terminal, and that's it"
trinque: then somebody will get in via your unicode parser
asciilifeform: btw there is a dbus-remover patch for chromium, somewhere
asciilifeform: the important bit is that it has to be done on a ~virginal~ gentoo
asciilifeform: before you say 'nowai' -- i was equally surprised that the poettering ban worked as well as it did
mircea_popescu: the idea is to have acceptable ends.
asciilifeform: 'The use of Git and SSL/TLS sets a very high barrier for in-flight tampering. This is not the point of discussion.' lel
mircea_popescu: as i was saying, been there, done that, got no tshirt.
ben_vulpes: so xorg-drivers 1.18-r1 pulls in xorg-server-1.19.3, which pulls in xorg-drivers-1.19.3 which conflicts with the requested version
gabriel_laddel_p: I don't have the disk space to back these up myself, but someone can start with: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552071
asciilifeform: i'ma hazard a guess, that you will barf long before ever succeeding in actually tracking down 100% of the src that adds up to a given rathead install.
phf: yeah, i think they package them into srpms, but i'm not sure if they are mandatory step in the distribution process
asciilifeform: rathead preserved sources?!
phf: i don't think bsd mirrors it either, it's not mandatory by design anyway
asciilifeform: ( one of the appeals of bsd is that something like it -- existed )
asciilifeform: and point out -- afaik there was never a 'whole world' mirror.
asciilifeform: phf: i assumed he meant 'the mirrors'
asciilifeform: ( gentoo per se automates a good chunk of the work. iterate over xorgs until one builds with gcc4... )
mircea_popescu: what's to say. the volume of shit you gotta preserve rapidly expands > the gb. the work your techs are required to do in order to accomplish this scales ~liniarily with the shithub "work" of the maggots.
trinque: the thing's recursively hairy
asciilifeform: btw ben_vulpes et al : might be worthwhile to find the last uninfected ver. of xorg.
mircea_popescu: after eating however many woman-weeks as the stupid shit is wont to do.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:47 asciilifeform: in such a way as to judas goat the authors of said code to rewrite it such that it DEMANDS the new 'improved' compiler.
mircea_popescu: for historical accuracy : /me had bozo bit set on the above linked item when it couldn't emerge video.
mircea_popescu: never was the case.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and likewise no one ( or at the very least, nkt asciilifeform ) knows of a moment in time when it was wholly healthy, with 0 wormy bits
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: afaik there has never existed a full portage archive. some crud or other is always 'elsewhere'.
asciilifeform: these will need specially made cures.
asciilifeform: 'chromium', 'wine', 'gimp', 'wireshark', other commonplace items.
asciilifeform: incidentally phf, i've been using the machine i built wih that recipe, ever since, and the list of proggies that - turns out - won't build ( because terminally infested ) is getting ever longer
phf: of course as soon as i asked, i figured out the right keywords
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the old, nearly forgotten usefulstuffonwww galaxy, http://www.rhunt.f9.co.uk/Glass_Blowing/Glass_Blowing_Menu.htm
asciilifeform: incidentally BingoBoingo -- imho encouraging these folx to take up motorcycle is a wholesome thing
mircea_popescu: "proceedings in rem" and all the rest of that scandalous bullshit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the heuristic is, "hey, this shit not owned by aparatchik ? give it to aparatchik then!"
asciilifeform: what's even left for them to steal ?
mircea_popescu: fuyck that shit. there's no need for a "united nations office of organized crime".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the piece of shit un is all going into overdrive with trying to get states to implement the usg-tronic "we'll just steal shit because it belongs to criminals hurr durr".
mircea_popescu: the fatsos are really offensive by now with their "oh, i have a right to exist" bullshit.
BingoBoingo: FUCK YOU, STOP WEIGHING A WHOLE 'NOTHER VEHICLE!!!
BingoBoingo: Punchline: "I am staying with the lighter, nimbler, simpler B400. I love my 400. Thank You. "
BingoBoingo: " Yes Suzuki, I am FAT! 315 pounds and my passenger is another 225, plus 50 pounds of our junk to carry for a total of 590 pounds on my 08 Burgman 400! My 400 is great on power, but supension is weak, even when set on 7 (the highest setting). We need a VERY HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION FOR THE BURGMAN 400!" << "Get rid of the 400 ... Problem solved"
BingoBoingo: Further Redditard String Production Sourcery: https://archive.is/Brm9v "Suzuki I am Fat"
mircea_popescu: the pretense of calling the enemy manufacture chain "improvised" is particularly lulzy coming from some people whose entire industrial process consists of impovising mixes out of chinese inputs.
asciilifeform: the last reich luvvved concrete just as much.
phf: https://mwi.usma.edu/effective-weapon-modern-battlefield-concrete/ on the role of concrete in the iraq war
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 17:35 trinque knows a person who owns a weimaraner, thing paces in her back yard back and forth between back door and window so much there's no grass in the path, has various other compulsions
asciilifeform: lol nope , that's what the herbivores said
mircea_popescu: nah. more likely, something about how violence is not the answer and koombaya
trinque: how sad. better to kill the poor thing.
asciilifeform: ( e.g. the snow leopard in the central park zoo in nyc -- quite certainly meowed - it was surreal to watch )
trinque: less complicated than that. know how cats don't meow to each other? this is the idiot's imitative noise he thinks he heard coming from the folks supposed to fill his food bowl.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-05 19:13 mircea_popescu: yeah. they got a dictionary of "+ev words", whereby if you say $word it creates +value in the mind of specific sort of imbecile.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-05 19:03 asciilifeform: they've become ~impossible to distinguish from one another, even in principle. like viagra spams.
mircea_popescu: of course, it only works in naive circumstances, as this shit always does. once mp/someome starts deliberately fucking with your words the whole shit goes nowhere. but obvioujsly "nobody could have predicted" etc.
mircea_popescu: but yes, this will be the enduring legacy of the ustardian "culture", such as it is : a really large attempt to calculate the sum-value of strings of words. because "the alternative is hard" and besides "this kinda works".
mircea_popescu: which also takes the problem home : bayesian faux intelligence is not, per se, a scam. the whole thing is simply the application of tractors to what the dorks already did anyway in their internal forum.
mircea_popescu: can just forget about the rest, obviously if the spies aren't any better then neither are the diplomats, the government, and from there on down to corporations and "famblies", whatever else composes the socialist pyramid.
mircea_popescu: heck, 99% oif what's left of us intelligence consists of trying to calculate word-value over the whole interwebs. that's it.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 18:56 asciilifeform: 'If the victim, at the sight of the economic predator, goes into doggie submission, we must stop discussing the phenomenon in terms of conflict and consider whether what we are observing might be some strange instance of symbiosis.'
mircea_popescu: this is what they do, fill a coupla pages with "good words" at school / unemployment office / whatever.
mircea_popescu: "oh look dad, he produced the string "responsibility". he can't be a useless pothead. o look, thgere goes, "the future"!!!1 let's give him more money".
mircea_popescu: yeah. they got a dictionary of "+ev words", whereby if you say $word it creates +value in the mind of specific sort of imbecile.
asciilifeform: there oughta be a museum... of failed financial tech
asciilifeform: the 'old people' largely ran out in what, 1998
mircea_popescu: the workings of spam being exactly this "there exist idiots / old people dumb enough to parse strings from $nobody"
asciilifeform: the usual move from k to r strat
asciilifeform: they've become ~impossible to distinguish from one another, even in principle. like viagra spams.
mircea_popescu: $thing like $thing! pavin andresenash has ko'd burble protocol! borger ker has uplifted the tokemon foundation! ETCETERA!
asciilifeform: ... was this one of the 2MB, or 20MB, or 2TB blox d00dz..?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666124 << i've thoroughly lost track of these nonsenses by nao
mircea_popescu: i suppose a lifetime of save scumming creates strange mental habits in the pikachus.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would someone actually believe this nonsense, self-contradictory on its face as it finds itself, is beyond the scope of comprehension.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being they actually believe their inane shit. "oh, if i type $string then it'll be parsed by all-comers as such! oh and i don't have to parse any strings myself!"
trinque: could rule earth, and how many generations of "my betters owe me that one secret they don't want you to know" to beat out
mircea_popescu: other than the whole "nude statements from $nobody produce effects", there's also the "i'll just ignore anything that doesn't fit"
BingoBoingo: Have you recently noticed changes in your appetite? Been losing weight recently? Anxiety up in other areas of life?
pikachu: sorry im a guy no girls on the internet
BingoBoingo: Well, so you know that sharpie in the pooper is an easy gamble to take
BingoBoingo: Well, you can get another 0.01 BTC to lose sleep over by sticking a sharpie in your pooper
pikachu: no ive been since the begining
BingoBoingo: i.e. The problem is not that http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/ but that they imagine themselves to be a polis
mircea_popescu: in the 7 years of bitcoin we've seen OVER A DOZEN generations of you flies.
mircea_popescu: random idiots with "their life savings" "invested" "because they understand the technology" (ie, you, ie, people with no life savings and no understanding) read their crap, get all excited, also disappear every 6 to 9 months.
mircea_popescu: we see a set every 6 to 9 months, they say the same things, then disappear without a trace.
mircea_popescu: no dude. there's no "believe" and none of the redditards you keep reading matter in any sense / to any degree.
BingoBoingo: Neither of those camps matter. Go to sleep and wake up somewhere other than dashjr and wu's joint niggeropolis
pikachu: i understand the technology
trinque: the folly of sticking your "life savings" in something you don't understand, I suppose, eludes you
pikachu: jihan wu camp say, you must support jihan wu camp, or they will ruin bitcoin
pikachu: im trying to learn asking different people about the situation and i become more confused daily
mircea_popescu: in subsidiary, the united states air force isn't actually capable of hindering a herd of goats. totally need better stuff to lose sleep over.
asciilifeform: 'eat recycled food! it's good for the environment, and ok for you!'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc chocolate, then cheese, already lost this 'war' in usa -- why not nao milk.
BingoBoingo: WAPO confuses soy and almond milks with Latex: https://archive.is/JsuvD << "In 1626, Francis Bacon observed that there be plants, that have a Milk in them when they are Cut."
shinohai: Well it is Argentina after all. *Everyone* is castrado there, no?
asciilifeform: well! you wouldn't want nsa d00d hand-scraping the pw lists for addition to bruteforcetron collection, to be Offended!111 It Would Be Wrong
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : ubisoft (famous as a place where great franchises go do tie) actually CHECKS YOUR PW FOR "BAD" WORDS.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's so fucking important to http://trilema.com/2017/time-to-get-out-by-the-way/ ; and why it's so extremely effectual, also.
mircea_popescu: if a 50k expenditure isn't "polarizing" and doesn't result in EVERYONE beelining to give at the office, they really dunno what to do, have no plans, nothing.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-04 17:40 mircea_popescu: bunch of old women are supposed to manage to misrepresent their trite idiocies as hip and "universal consensus", though the unlikely venue of marking reddit user groups as spam and deleting shit people said on twitter.
mircea_popescu: see, they're not really made to function in a reality of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-04#1665942 ; they arose in an agar of "stone soup", and are only really fit to function in that context.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666045 << the way the lizards expect the shit to work is exactly in the way mp -saves-openbsd worked : as seen moneyz. recall the story of the us embassy spending a whooping 50k to start an "empire" of fake news tv stations etc ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-05 14:26 asciilifeform: 'A group of fifteen consortium members from seven European countries has initiated this week a new project to curtail criminals and attackers from using blockchain technology to avoid law detection, while at the same time respecting the privacy rights of legitimate users.' << didjaknow !
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666042 << i don't think the bullshit is ever going to cease, for as long as there's a single socialist-criminal standing up somewhere they're go9ing to engage in criminal socialism.
asciilifeform: and at the same time '...will respect individual privacy and other fundamental rights'
asciilifeform: 'A group of fifteen consortium members from seven European countries has initiated this week a new project to curtail criminals and attackers from using blockchain technology to avoid law detection, while at the same time respecting the privacy rights of legitimate users.' << didjaknow !
BingoBoingo: In other WaPo lulz: "Despite a recent uptick in the Russian birth rate, the country still has an old undereducated population plagued by chronic disease, and its economy isnt exactly an innovative dynamo." << Forgetting that USia is a diabetic crisis full of hamplanets useful for little other than biodiesel
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Are you hooked on competence porn ? - Telegraph - The Telegraph: <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10744879/Are-you-hooked-on-competence-porn.html>; competence porn - Wiktionary: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/competence_porn>; The Martian, Sherlock Holmes, and why we love competence porn ...: (1 more message)
ben_vulpes: not that the vaste horde of shellshocked are interested in going anywhere near downtown portland, i don't think anyone is these days.
trinque: so, there are folks up there that have loyal foot soldiers, guns, etc. the guy even spoke candidly with me about post-collapse plans
mircea_popescu: lol taylor-made for the purpose ?
trinque: guy who ran it had total authority over the folks who worked for him
trinque: I did some work on a warehouse management program for a farm products distributor up there.
mircea_popescu: not even the command structure is the thing. an ideology which insistently points out to the rank and file that they ain't got no say. it's not up to them. they don't make decisions. are not in control. it's not up to them. etc.
trinque: I always get too optimistic when these things happen.
trinque: aha, whereas these adventists and other christian fundamentalists, no record, many guns. also command structure.
trinque: I don't think the antifa types can afford guns
trinque: they should sell tickets to that fight
trinque: https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomery/portland-protests?utm_term=.vmxmV5mdG#.gvkpO2pve << ey ben_vulpes, sounds like this amounts to the mega-christian bumpkin kids vs leftist whiners ?
mircea_popescu: and, as a fine example of what being a dumbass cuckold actuaslly is like in practice, i bet you none of the people who were published as speakers will lifetime shitlist anyone who was involved in organising the shitshow.
jurov: http://electronconf.com/ "We published a list of speakers that does not reflect the standards to which we hold ourselves. We will be postponing this event until we can deliver a more diverse slate of speakers."
mircea_popescu: nah, that's the loser track.
mircea_popescu: generally you apply at their renfaire / demonstration things.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> last night asciilifeform was wandering in washington, overhearing the usual 'my internship!' idiot chatter << do you ever troll 'em and ask where you can apply?
mod6: i typically try to just "get a new one" every five years or so, and retire the old one.
mircea_popescu: yeah film notrly teh best of mediums for these.
mircea_popescu: i recall the occupy thing, but very unimpressive paperworks.
asciilifeform: they were largely a snoar
asciilifeform: the 'occupy' people (~same) also
asciilifeform: iirc i posted a bunch of these, in 2014ish
mircea_popescu: kinda curious re paper/paint variance among the socialistard tribes.
asciilifeform: ^ over here you have to go as far from 'throne' as, e.g., uni. of md, to see these.
mircea_popescu: remember http://trilema.com/2016/pisi-dot-ar-y-otras-temas/ ? endgame of the whole "raising awareness" bs.
asciilifeform: speaking of, every other light pole now has propaganda re 'putler' etc
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the current winds, going pantsuit is a slightly worse career choice than starting a sideline in petty theft.
mircea_popescu: got totally stomped. much to her disbelieving surprise, bitch thought there's a gamergate everywhere, and somehow items just like her isn't what pikes are decorated with.
mircea_popescu: eh, the one that "discovered" who "Satoashi really was" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: ie, he has a mortgage. just like the rich what's her name journa-ho that turned out to live in conditions you yourself would not consider.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform phf will not support your insanity. the last time any of those interns had a $100 plate, it was hash brownies.
mircea_popescu: 3k btc. and that's fucking obama, he went in in the 70s, when it was actually a good time to go into socialism.
mircea_popescu: obama's share of the loot was
asciilifeform: some of the chix even dress to mircea_popescuine spec
asciilifeform: they eat 100 $ /plate, sleep in posh georgetown townhousen
mircea_popescu: you keep making these utterly anti-reality pronouncements. did you follow them up to see, concretely, how "well" they eat at denny's ?
mircea_popescu: "oh look at me mom, i picked the corsican tribe in un prophete! we'll so totally end up fucked in the ass!"
asciilifeform: the maggots will eat very, very well, until corpse runs out.
asciilifeform: swarms of 'pantsuit', and they want for nothing
asciilifeform: last night asciilifeform was wandering in washington, overhearing the usual 'my internship!' idiot chatter
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, it worked for obama. but all the white/jew boys of the curtis yarvin description, i dunno what school you gotta go to in order to come out quite that fucking cluleless. it's not even dumb, it's like anti-smart.
asciilifeform: veeery short-term thinking, is what they run on, as i understand.
mircea_popescu: you couldn't make up a worse party if you deliberately tried, as a livresque exercise. i can scarcely imagine there's anyone anywhere idiotic enough to allign himself with this shit as some sort of will-to-power thing.
mircea_popescu: and all this for the tenuous control of a sinking ship, not like there's going to be a "europe" by the time the chinese are done "developing its infrastructure"
mircea_popescu: bunch of old women are supposed to manage to misrepresent their trite idiocies as hip and "universal consensus", though the unlikely venue of marking reddit user groups as spam and deleting shit people said on twitter.
mircea_popescu: such a ridiculous position of these muppets. so, on one hand, they;'re utterly dependent on bullshit parascientific nonsense to continue financing themselves -- "global warming", "latest socio-behavioural studies" bla bla nonsense. leaving aside just how untenable it is, they're stuck parasitizing "developed democracies", ie the poorest, most desperate shitholes ever. and THEN they're stuck fighting the culture war. somehow a
mircea_popescu: goes with the sudden drop in "terrorist" attacks in france once macron was "elected".
asciilifeform: jurov: who made the shit ssd ?
BingoBoingo: Hit the heatsinks with carb cleaner, etc
mod6: i typically try to just "get a new one" every five years or so, and retire the old one.
mod6: haha. yah, keyboard needs replacing, and, should replace the hdd at some point. other than that, works good.
asciilifeform: may be time to get a new panel, while they're gettable.
asciilifeform: the one maybe-tricky bit is lcd : my x60 lcd is showing spots of rot
mod6: this is true. it works ~fine~ otherwise. just getting a bit old.
mod6: in fact, the gcc5 thing is driving me nuts too; i've got a new notebook to replace the one with the bad 'o' key (you might remember from c3) and getting everything setup is like hair-pulling.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: eighties/nineties pulp series; did a take on magic driven by a sugar->'power' conversion in the mitochondria; arc revolves around a few rebels who piece it together and tilt at toppling the gods; rereading to see if the genre spoof held up at all
ben_vulpes: most recent caltrop was that something in the xorg-drivers tower of chairs wants a 5-series gcc
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in other lulz, a parcel asciilifeform sent to the wrong continent -- came back! << haha
asciilifeform: surprisingly cheap, the box, also (10-20bux, from this vendor, depending on size; has conductive gasket, comes with bolts)
asciilifeform: lol i have the 'extreme' one going as we speak,
BingoBoingo: And the extreme environment hardened variant FUCKSHEEP is herded by SCOTSMAN
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i did consider possible 'FUCKPIGS' for the bigger one..
BingoBoingo thought FUCKGOATS was a natural path to other product names like PASHTUN and BLANKET and HAYBARN