asciilifeform: 'The elimination of our armed underground was possible only because the vast majority of the Israeli population understood that with the establishment of the state the national aim had been attained, and the actions of the armed groups could only endanger that achievement.' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: author of the article, incidentally
mircea_popescu: dude... #1, that's primo reason to hang him, and #2, who the fuck loved him ?
mircea_popescu: "it wouldn't do to hang some shithead as loved as ben gurion"
asciilifeform: and would have hanged, but for the sorry bastard, m. begin, who shat his pants (or, alternate, turned coat)
mircea_popescu: and generally, the "do the one thing which would make the the femwailers wail worst" is a fine heuristic
asciilifeform: d00d was the authorized-muppet of internationalkomyoonity.
asciilifeform: 'oh noez, accursed partizans, every time we sit down to vichyate, they piss on the parade!'
asciilifeform: 'The elected Zionist leadership under David Ben-Gurion detested the two "dissident" groups. First, because they prevented it from conducting the policy it considered right. Every time a compromise with the British authorities was under discussion, they undertook some spectacular action against the British, such as the blowing up of the British headquarters in the King David hotel, the murder of Lord Moyne or the hanging of two Britis
asciilifeform: h sergeants. Second, the dissidents threatened the leadership’s authority. Third, the leadership was leftist, while the Irgun was on the extreme right. (The ideology of the Sternists is harder to define.)'
asciilifeform: in other veryveryolds, https://archive.is/PQIyo << moar re the 'altalena affair' , for aficionados
mircea_popescu: "people are fundamentally good, and there's a spark of essential human-ness in everyone"
mircea_popescu: o wait, i got the best one
mircea_popescu: "i never had anything to say worth 4mb, therefore should be enough for all trilemas"
asciilifeform: 'i dun seem to get off the ground by flapping arms, thereby flight is impossible for man'
mircea_popescu: "i cannot bed, therefore whore"
asciilifeform: of 'symmetric ciphers' also ('i cannot break, therefore strong!!')
asciilifeform: phf: 'not exploring it enough in hopes that it somehow holds true' is in fact the essence of bad rngology
asciilifeform: ( think of adc sampling artifacts as similar to the pixel moire you see when old vhs camera filmed room with crt display.. )
phf: including the intentionally omitting parts not from malice, but from not exploring it enough in hopes that it somehow holds true
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 12:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670142 << this is pure gold, ty for posting, phf . it's rng-nonsense from back when folx were posting ~erudite~ nonsense, rather than the regular redditola snore
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670230 << it is the kind of nonsense either one of us could've written in younger years, so yeah, old school.
asciilifeform: ( linux malignantly does The Wrong Thing here )
asciilifeform: well, 1 corpse, the trigger man
asciilifeform: the talkers -- will hear, see, read on front page of völkischer beobachter..
asciilifeform: the competent folx, you will generally never hear about, unless firsthand
trinque: recalling the thread with diana_coman the other day, this'd be the difference between competent women finding places of authority and female culture saturating social arrangements.
asciilifeform: from same rag, 'Uber Technologies Inc director David Bonderman said on Tuesday that he has resigned from the company's board following a remark he made during an Uber staff meeting that was widely seen as offensive to women. "There's a lot of data that shows when there's one woman on the board, it's much more likely that there will be a second woman on the board," Huffington said. In response, Bonderman said: "Actually, what it show
mircea_popescu: at least the russians used it to make bombs. these fucktards grind perfectly fine pine down to mix it with glue and make their stupid paper wasp nests, it's gross on top of being stupid.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, moscow got bombed, iassy got bombed, whatever, ww2 in europe.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, militarily, ceausescu opposed the invasion of czechoslovakia, basescu opposed thje invasion of serbia, 0 diff.
mircea_popescu: no fucking eu law was ever modified in the same manner.
mircea_popescu: eh, listen, the practice and the ideological theory dun work so well in practice. for one thing, dja know the caer rules were adjusted basically to accomodate...romania ?
mircea_popescu: later, as a young man i mean, they begged me to go, but i couldn't be arsed.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, like ~all of the other boys he knew, wanted nothing more than to be in red army, ideally circa 1942 or so
asciilifeform: oh hm earlier meant to link to https://profilib.com/chtenie/24163/valeriy-grigorev-obrecheny-na-podvig-kniga-pervaya.php -- b00k re ~peacetime~ aviators, with almost same title (though the other is more well known, this was specific to thread)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670275 << possibly why the last time "nato army" even existed as such was mid-early 1990s. today it's entirely a parade & "technical support and training" affair.
asciilifeform: e.g. asciilifeform's grandfather
mircea_popescu: but the idea being, dude went from romania to odessa and then to tatra mountains. and then came back and was uni professor.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-15 02:00 mircea_popescu: !s "we were younger then"
mircea_popescu: so i was gonna quote this story with my grandfather regretting the time of stalin, except apparently it;'s not in the log ? and there's even attempts to find the shit, like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-15#1433159
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 14:03 diana_coman: the only trouble with the emerging image of academia as "the land of how opressed" is the fact that...I knew some old real academics too; and they...had fun; also! lol
asciilifeform: they very often sacked cadets.
asciilifeform: prolly dun have to lose 10%, but with su iron -- is what they lost.
asciilifeform: i suspect that you can choose b/w 'realistic training conditions' ( e.g. worst weather, iced runways, live fire, overrevving, overceilinging, spins ) and everybody-lives
mircea_popescu: dude, i'm sleeping i nthe factory, it's not gonna be 10%
asciilifeform: part of what did it was the reluctance to catapult
asciilifeform: general idea : the 'packed sardine herders' want the old world -- forgotten. the one that built the flat asciilifeform grew up in -- built 1907, 4 metre ceilings
a111: Logged on 2015-01-08 14:02 mike_c: there's another 14 btc for bitbet investors. maybe this bet will spark a rally in the stock.
asciilifeform: esp. the pre-1940s ones
mircea_popescu: which is i suppose why they don't./
asciilifeform: the old films.
mircea_popescu: it's an important exercise, for the "land of the free home of the brave" soviet union citizen 2.0, to review the 1950s movies, and implicitly what things looked like.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 04:00 mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-08 14:06 cazalla: it all shrinks, i grew up visiting my opa's backyard on the weekends, spending week days in my own parent's smaller backyard, what do i have for my own son? next to fucking nothing, no-one has kids, no-one has familiies, no-one can afford shit, land of opportunity my fucking ass
mircea_popescu: "bitch, we've come so very far, your socialism and me, that now i gotta be president to get the house a returning midshipman'd have got"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the funhny thing is, baby boomer producing cheap housing is ~what obama gets today
asciilifeform: the 1850s d00d probably would barf before even entering sorry hovel : 'where is the pasture ? whaddayamean quarter acre of shitmud ? '
mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156
mircea_popescu: the 1850s major and his ilk WOULDNT HAVE FIT in the baby boomer producing cheap housing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point being that "man's greatest possible as well as actual aspiration is to wait upon some dumb cunt and the miserable maggots that crawl out of her cunt with some regularity" was never in history socially acceptable or socially accepted. it became the norm post ww2 not for any reason than because it is a prerequisite (among many other) for stacking pseudo-people like sardines.
asciilifeform: ( the mega-originator of genre!! )
mircea_popescu: it was ~never different~. the male hut was this port in athens, where fun was had. the female hut was this literal hut, where they groomed and talked dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670242 << it gets better. caragiale (possibly only romanian in the history of that political concoction to be suspectable of intelligence) praises greatly „Maior C Pruncu — Din campaniile mele (Crimeea, 1855, Algeria, 1856—57, Italia, Maroc, 1859). Tipărită la Bârlad în 1900, la tipografia George V Munteanu”
mircea_popescu: in fact the above agreement re the florida cession will actually do more than the even above-er "agreement" on talking-about-bitcoin-from-outside-bitcoin
mircea_popescu: why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: "the united states has agreed during a conference in #trilema to cede florida back to spain"
mircea_popescu: maybe we should start doing this, "the united states came to an agreement" bla bla.
asciilifeform: 'Thousands of dreamers and schemers and developers who populate the cutting edge of computer science, most of them young, had invested in the DAO. This was real money, a quarter of a billion dollars, their money, meant to build a better version of the world, and every cent was at risk.' << gold
a111: Logged on 2017-06-11 04:51 mircea_popescu: it'll never end, this constant stream of improved improvements, until they're literally fucking buried, the muppets, will it.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 13:49 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9AZcm << meanwhile, the forkwarz folx. '...the Bitcoin industry came to an agreement in New York...' didjaknow!!
mircea_popescu: shinohai good thing they figured out who satoshi was, at least.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670238 << the history of computing is fulla this. not to mention the history of eastern europe.
shinohai: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2017-the-ether-thief/ <<< It's a mystery! or, how to rewrite history in your favour ....
asciilifeform: fwiw i can't picture serving in a nato army and NOT deserting and/or going to enemy at the first opportunity.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:04 mircea_popescu: who the fuck are you to die for something, anyway.
asciilifeform: 'The sluggard believes | he shall live forever, If the fight he faces not; But age shall not grant him | the gift of peace, Though spears may spare his life.' ( havamal , bellows' translation )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156 << 'die not the straw death !' (tm)(r)(odin)
asciilifeform: and the spring's running down.
asciilifeform: the inescapable picture is that ww2 was the last time euro civilization's clock was wound.
asciilifeform: aaaha, the ~last generation-of-people-worth-talking-to
diana_coman: so maybe more a sign of degradation rather than anything else (and yes, when I went into academia initially it was based on what I knew from those old people - the shock/unpleasant surprise was quite huge)
diana_coman: the only trouble with the emerging image of academia as "the land of how opressed" is the fact that...I knew some old real academics too; and they...had fun; also! lol
diana_coman: I did notice some difference at old veterans of both wars - not really much talk of fun exactly but certainly not that impressed with death either
asciilifeform: though with emigres it was somewhat complicated, some of them were (how does one even say this in english?) 'serving out their pay'
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I kind of suspect the what fun vs how oppressed is a good way to tell what sort of person is talking basically
asciilifeform: it was serious problem because the ~hardware~ was costly and ever in shortage -- rather than new d00dz
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:17 diana_coman: and yes, some of them were dead
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:17 diana_coman: fwiw I talked to former army pilots; they had lots of pictures of lots of males as you might imagine; the punchline was...WHAT FUN WE HAD
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 05:56 erlehmann: grandfather was still alive, cowardly.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9AZcm << meanwhile, the forkwarz folx. '...the Bitcoin industry came to an agreement in New York...' didjaknow!!
asciilifeform: ( there is an old thread where mircea_popescu mentions it; asciilifeform at one time also used )
asciilifeform: incidentally at one time quite a few folx, incl. some of the people here, used sound card rng
asciilifeform: which puts him ahead of the entire 2005-present crop of derps
asciilifeform: phf: ... or where the author elaborately justifies 'whitening'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670142 << this is pure gold, ty for posting, phf . it's rng-nonsense from back when folx were posting ~erudite~ nonsense, rather than the regular redditola snore
mircea_popescu: it's the oldest profession this, what! "bet you a dime the next person coming in the door will be female"
mircea_popescu: besides, one day i found a correspondence between the direction in which my dog barked and whether it was gonna rain that day.
erlehmann: what would be needed to convince you that the researchers found a correspondence between a cellular automaton on a hexagonal lattice and skin cells?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann there's absolutely no relation between the mathematical model of cellular automata and biological cells.
phf: it seems like a questionable move to speak for your friend's motivations like that. sort of a classic moralist move "oh these bikers who were fucking, taking drugs, and riding wild DIED YOUNG!!1"
erlehmann: mircea_popescu was the cell conforming thing ment as a metaphor only or do you have something to share on cellular automata?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The West Point Story (1950) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043123/>; The West Point Story (film) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_West_Point_Story_(film)>; The West Point Story (1950) - Overview - TCM.com: <http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/16073/The-West-Point-Story/>
mircea_popescu: !~google the west point story
erlehmann: ah, the train fills
mircea_popescu: he's a dancer. but he also gets the visiting french president to do his bidding by showing him ww2 decorations etc
diana_coman: my take away from your picture story is that apparently each of those in the picture got pretty much what they wanted so...
mircea_popescu: there's a great film with cagney, about such a guy
erlehmann: i am thoroughly glad that i do not find work fun because it means i do not lose motivation when others do not have fun.
diana_coman: that's not even the point; one of them apparently kept being promoted/demoted in times of peace because he was a. an excellent pilot b. apparently unable to not have fun regardless of whether it's "permitted" or not
erlehmann: diana_coman of course, the goal of war is not do die for your country, but to make the other basterd die for theirs
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever met anyone i'd let into the house who was death-avoidance-oriented.
diana_coman: and yes, some of them were dead
diana_coman: fwiw I talked to former army pilots; they had lots of pictures of lots of males as you might imagine; the punchline was...WHAT FUN WE HAD
erlehmann: oh, i won't sleep, probably. but i have mindless work to do and i feel in the right state of mind for that.
mircea_popescu: ok, not bad. i guess i didn't spend enough time staring at that part of europe at the rightr age.
mircea_popescu: on mine neither.
erlehmann: on my keyboard, m and f are not right next to each other
mircea_popescu: they live in sweden, after all.
mircea_popescu: i think you might've had the people/vermin division wrong.
erlehmann: maybe because they are not bdsm bazillionaires (re: war)
mircea_popescu: i have no objection : when you beg the question, you get what you begged for.
erlehmann: though the syrian told me that refugees of both sexes he knows seem to have trouble finding partners in sweden
mircea_popescu: you think adding the decimal points might save the credit card statement that was in the red a coupla grand by just adding the hundreds ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck are you to die for something, anyway.
erlehmann: either die for nothing or live in sweden
erlehmann: i don't see the dilema, re syria
erlehmann: > <mircea_popescu> so there's a pretty thorny dilema, become a faggot or a fighter ?
erlehmann: worst thing on conference was drunk guy who wanted to have my contact details after i told him that his captive portal will be truly fucked soon-ish and every other stranger at the lunch table agreed.
erlehmann: one of my favourites is the one with statues you can fuck
erlehmann: grandfather was still alive, cowardly.
erlehmann: punchline: everyone else on the photo was a very dead fighter.
erlehmann: he then went on to “this one wanted to become a submariner, this one wanted to become a war hero” etc. pp.
erlehmann: re fighter/faggot: when my grandfather was still alive, he showed me a photo from before the second world war. he was there as a young child with lots of other males.
mircea_popescu: but no, ~nobody wants the fat ugly us/eu women.
mircea_popescu: so there's a pretty thorny dilema, become a faggot or a fighter ? they'll despise you anwyay, and you'll lose parts you actually liked anyway, but hey.
mircea_popescu: whereas the anglo reich notion is that young shemales are god's gift to creation.
mircea_popescu: well, the arab notion is that young males are ~offal.
erlehmann: re agency: i had a talk with a syrian electrical engineer yesterday. he needed a ride and explained that mostly young people flee that conflict because every side sees them as potential fighters. that was the moment where i decided that the neo-nazi meme “they wan't our jobs and our women” ascribed way too much agency to immigrants.
mircea_popescu: i've yet to encounter someone who was in power in the sense of making clothing rules. consider augustus tried to get people to wear the toga.
mircea_popescu: but maybe it's because http://trilema.com/2013/attention-cunt/#selection-29.0-26.2 only holds in the oregon woods, not in the afghani hillside ?
erlehmann: loaded question. probably because of whoever is in power there to make the clothing rules.
mircea_popescu: i think everyone's a wimp when they're 12.
mircea_popescu: ~the only thing "socially acceptable sluttines" signifies is small dicks.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, weak male expression will drive the females to overactive courtship.
erlehmann: i get the point
mircea_popescu: generation after generation, pattern repeats because contrary to what people thing, they don't really matter all that much.
mircea_popescu: i also observed that 9th graders all agreed sucking cock is very vulgar, only to agree four years later that only losers don't eat the penis.
erlehmann: regarding elective sexual behaviour, i observed people acting slutty if they know it is a) acceptable socially (i.e. their friends are doing it) b) they learn that it is possible (e.g. non-monogamy)
mircea_popescu: all the way down to the little guy, preteding raw reality vomit unfiltered and uncomprehended is "his life experience"
mircea_popescu: but the fundamental problem is that it, characteristically, pretends there's 0 indirection layers.
erlehmann: well, that would be one critique for the quota/empowerment thingy (would you say “quotatron”?): a theater for persons with characteristics might end up with persons that exhibits the characteristics, without changing something about society.
mircea_popescu: and obviously this all ties directly into my blasting of the whole "Social learning" lulz on trilema and here recently, if you've been following that.
mircea_popescu: leaving the theory aside, from actual, observed practice -- the muppets don't conform to their neighbours, but are conformed to their neighbours. by the muppet owners, yes.
mircea_popescu: what, if any, is the actual basis of this notion ?
mircea_popescu: and why would you ascribe agency to the average muppet ?
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i get the car analogy. i would not ascribe agency to the car, therefore i might at best assume that car owners conform to their neighbours.
erlehmann: > We analysed time series of lizard scale colour dynamics over four years of their development and demonstrate that this pattern is produced by a cellular automaton (a grid of elements whose states are iterated according to a set of rules based on the states of neighbouring elements) that dynamically computes the colour states of individual mesoscopic skin scales to produce the corresponding macroscopic colour pattern.
mircea_popescu: alright. if you observe a parking lot, and see there are a lot of similar tubs on wheels there, do you expect the cars conform to their neighbours ?
mircea_popescu: do cells conform to their peers regarding genotype expression ?
erlehmann: i guess were chatting about people conforming to their peers regarding elective behaviour. i think most do. if i understood you correctly, you do not share that opinion.
erlehmann: about the text?
mircea_popescu: alright, i guess that brings us in sync then.
mircea_popescu: ie : just because lincoln destroyed the republic under the pretext of "destroying the ghetto" does not mean there's no more ghetto. slaves are slaves, men are men. the republic is in shambles, that's it.
mircea_popescu: it is also the fundament of stuff like http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/
mircea_popescu: erlehmann exactly. so now, that's the source of the whole "get married - grow two inches" mockeries.
mircea_popescu: whenever you hire, you hire "one of the guys that could be hired", NOT "one of the guys that showed up under the apparent hallucinatory notion that they could be hired".
mircea_popescu: consider there are one hundred companies, just like mine. consider that whenever one of our widget licker leaves one company, another one hires him. consider that there's 99 idle fucktards who aren't qualified to drive, who also show up EVERY TIME, but are never selected.
erlehmann: failing to see the difference between “best who applied” and “best in industry” → back to logic school
erlehmann: i know this “we hire only the best” meme and would consider it dishonest, but maybe acceptable if used as idiot gauge.
mircea_popescu: but you are right on the subsidiary point, trilema is essentially a queer zine for the 1%.
mircea_popescu: would it be fair for me to go before the shareholders and say, "our company employs the top of the top in widget lickers, only the first percentile ever make it in" ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i own a company, as i happen to. suppose this company employs one hundred widget lickers, as it doesn't. suppose one day one widget licker dies, and i advertise the open position. suppose one hundred candidates present themselves, and one is selected. suppose this happens a few times over a year, and over the years.
erlehmann: also women of either gender!
erlehmann: i read the airplane text. i like it, actually. tits-in-dirt accounting, breast-fixated fuckwits, slutty statistics – that text might fit into any queer zine for all the wrong reasons.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann try voicing yourself, save us the hassle.
mircea_popescu: say when you've read it and we continue the discussion of statistics, correlation, causation, proofs and so on. it's certainly a conversation worth having.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann for the fun of toying.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann you said "people do because peers do". i do not see any grounds for the proposed causation.
asciilifeform: aaha but i was speaking of the very threadbare usian world asciilifeform actually lives in, vs porn plumber planet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think i have a story about a plumber. supported a buncha them.
mircea_popescu: i do not credit this because one whit. what proof do you have to support the notion ?
erlehmann: people often elect to do stupid shit because their peers do it. if a person during 1990ies looks like a member of the trenchcoat mafia on stock photos it is entirely possible that they came up with it independently. very unlikely, though.
mircea_popescu: it's actually twice as good as any collegiate bullshit of the "Criminology" ilk, in the sense that a welder can support a fucktoy, but two "college degreed" nobodies can barely afford a cat. if they scrounge.
mircea_popescu: the % part, not the redditardesque interpretation thereof. there's nothing just or injust about % distributions of elective behaviours.
erlehmann: note “It’s estimated that only 5% of welders in the U.S. are women.”
erlehmann: regarding welding: https://www.arc-zone.com/blog/carmenelectrode/about/tips-for-women-in-the-welding-industry/
mircea_popescu: well, that and the multiplication table.
mircea_popescu: stuff should have been done in junior high, that's why it's even there.
erlehmann: it actually turns me off if people instead of saying “no” outright start to tell a story about their issues i might or might not want to hear (even if true)
erlehmann: so for example a women came up to me and asked “can i smack your ass?”. i consented, she did just that. when i asked, if i can do the same to me, she declined. a weird moment occurred when she told me a few moments later that she only declined because she wanted to practice saying no.
mircea_popescu: "gee, you sound exactly like the other fifty schmucks. don't they have men where you're from ?"
mircea_popescu: if i were a woman, i'd be seriously put off by some dude who wanted to give me anal fissures and isntead of fucking asking me about it, recited some recipe he had found online / at some conference / whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: the what ?!
erlehmann: like, making them able to
mircea_popescu: guess what, more black girls ride black cock than azns! THE INJUSTIwhat ?
erlehmann: also i stopped attending the group soon after i learned about that
mircea_popescu: hence the odometer remark.
erlehmann: my criticism regarding such stuff was that fixing the measured variable does not fix the injustice and might even create perverse incentives
erlehmann: re activism, i suspected quotas work like “we found that women talk significantly less in our gatherings than men, even though they represent ⅔ of in-group. this is an injustice. let's make a rule that men can't talk more, that'll fix it”
asciilifeform: the evaporation of the buying power of said printolade, also nuked the immune systems of the chumps,
mircea_popescu: erlehmann how's greedy go ? they don't get anything for the underpants subscription do they ?
mircea_popescu: after all they buy "music records" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: printolade has this effect, where idiots are awash in >subsistence moneys. prick'em and they bleed it -- like ground once gushed with delicious petro without so much as proper drilling in 19th c
erlehmann: i did not donate. lesson: other people care about things i do not care about.
erlehmann: i once crowdfunded new underpants for a known troll who lost them during moving. people donated 300€.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann ima make a charity for gluing all odometers to the same value, wtf.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform also has not seen them working arc welders. when charity for ~this~ ??
mircea_popescu: sorry, what's the context here ?
erlehmann: mircea_popescu maybe that is exactly the point. making it happen, i mean.
asciilifeform: for all asciilifeform knows, there is also 'giraffes code'
asciilifeform: 'oh noez, everyone on www can see that gavintron-of-the-day has ~0 nodes' 'must deleeeet!111 node viewrr'
asciilifeform: ^ is what appears there nao
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 03:56 BingoBoingo: And it appears 21.co killed their node tracker
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1669938 >> 'Replace your public email with an inbox that pays you Set up a 21 profile to receive paid messages from people outside your network. Keep the money, or donate it to charities like Black Girls Code. It's like LinkedIn InMail, except you get paid!'
BingoBoingo: It the "How many nodes run X software, that derp herp can our software find"
mircea_popescu: was this the thing that kept pretending anyoen gives a shit abotu whatever bitcoin v 1650.2 ?
BingoBoingo: And it appears 21.co killed their node tracker
asciilifeform: and for all i know, usa began to sink when the last ww2-gen d00d checked into alzheimer home
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is not the first nor the last to observe that - e.g. su - croaked ~exactly when the last ww2 vets left public life there
asciilifeform: 'we will carry on as obscenely obese, impudent swine who have never seen the knife!'
asciilifeform: 'kill, pleeees kill us, by the railcar'
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's crackpot limonovesque hypothesis , ~societies~ also emit this squeal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sense that woman has an inborn whiny tone through which it signals it's not been beaten in too long ?
asciilifeform: it is always there