phf: my north ireland friend tells me that the burning car was a kind of symbol of terror when she was growing up. it wasn't so much about the car itself, it's the fact that around where it was burned there were probably going to be ira militants ready to "check your papers"
js-of-mp: what's the difference between that and "i won't talk to the girl at the bar because wrong kind of music is currently playing" ?
asciilifeform: i'll leave the flea circuses to magicians like js-of-mp
js-of-mp: could build flea circus. you know the story of the ancient alf-sheik who had ant thread gemstone ?
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: women exist to be used not chained up in the basement.
asciilifeform: problem wit htheir being poor is your being poor too ? << too poor to build perfectly impermeable membrane against'em, aha
phf: (somewhat related, the battle of algiers is a cool movie on the subject of why burn cars. i suspect that same car burning tactic was later adopted by the ira)
js-of-mp: but then it got postmodernified, so not very specific anymoar.
js-of-mp: possibvly modern day equiv of roman "slaughtering cattle" , in the sense that car's white man's camel or something
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:19 trinque: I'm still eagerly awaiting a description of these roving gangs of car burners.
js-of-mp: google item, mouse-paste the product!
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i'd rather hit 'altgraph meta c' and get same or etc
erlehmann: asciilifeform kind of mod key: 1. press compose key. 2. press at least two other keys in succession 3. get glyph that makes sense
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: so we could say that the problem wit htheir being poor is your being poor too ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:15 asciilifeform: erlehmann: i enjoy a number of things, from turkish military marches to turkish sweets. but it is different q from 'do i want the bottom economic 10% of turkey moving in next door'
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673567 << i collect the bottom 10% of all sorts of places. young females are eminently educable, and the poorer the better.
js-of-mp: and god damned their music is god-awful omfg.
asciilifeform: betcha there are tall aztecs ~somewhere~
trinque: it is factual that the non-pussified mexican culture is a huge boon for texas.
asciilifeform: js-of-mp: you visited the sans- ? with.. time machine?!
js-of-mp: i think every domestic slave of every cramped up writer got screamed at least once in her life out of the dude's pure frustration at his own inability.
js-of-mp: note that if you can't come up with a good novel IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE WOMAN EMPTYING YOUR BASKET.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:11 asciilifeform: erlehmann: would you describe germany+turks as more habitable, enjoyable, interesting place than the germany sans turks you grew up in ?
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673560 << i would. i would also describe new mexico or texas with the wetbacks as more hospitable, habitable etc than without.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 17:52 js-of-mp: erlehmann: there's no real spec to orcdom, visually, beyond "no good". it's actually a pretty interesting concept, anthropologically, because of its marked similarities to beauty.
js-of-mp: erlehmann: there's no real spec to orcdom, visually, beyond "no good". it's actually a pretty interesting concept, anthropologically, because of its marked similarities to beauty.
erlehmann: js-of-mp i don't particularly care. germans weirdly enough use “refugees” (older german: „flüchtling“ newer german: “geflüchtete”). i finally understood the orc metaphor, that was the point of the statement.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:06 erlehmann: i think it is fairly plausible that the description of “orcs” can be read as some kind of blatant racism – “black-skinned”, “brutish”, “slant-eyed” …
phf: we have a particular friend hoe. she's fucked up most of the time (alcohol and psychedelics), traveled across the world off the money she makes. running joke is that she's taken over by ishtar, and she's having all these crazy amazing experiences while being only half conscious of it. "got fucked up in mumbai, ended up in a hat of a holy man in himalayas. good lay. xoxo" etc.
js-of-mp: working girl works. twelve a day every day, not "oh i was in this ambiguous situation about paying the toll at the booth once"
js-of-mp: next time idle chatterbags make that claim, point out to them that you once fixed a shower head yet you don't go around trying to pass for handyman in social situations.
erlehmann: i guess the point was that she did not catch feelings. i know that type and keep away now.
js-of-mp: there's no exception to this rule and i think i know more whores than any representative ever knew of his electoral basis.
js-of-mp: the woman lied about being a whore.
erlehmann: worst story of that type was that i once got a lecture how prostitution is bad, because the woman who told me that had done it and never found love (abridged, but probably truthful enough). meanwhile, other people rather fuck for money than work as a waiter.
js-of-mp: its not a matter of like. it is a matter of the dorky reductionism, "oh, slut gives up on everything for sex". this isn\'t taking holy orders.
js-of-mp: erlehmann: this btw is patently stupid / entirely false redditism. there's no "act less slutty be more successful / happier / godblesseder" in nature. it is 100% th ebyproduct of ustards being retards.
js-of-mp: phf: if i fuck half local, it means the other half is what ? how did it get there ? omfg if i already have the hugs what am i doing... headxplody.
js-of-mp: here be better cars made. so they started with the whole "emissions" crap, exact equivalent of the orc thing in renting. now all you can get are the same b-m-double-shoe bullshits, except they're toyotanissan.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:04 asciilifeform: the second stage of this cancer is when market begins to segment SOLELY based on orc proximity -- i.e. your house costs moar, or less, ~strictly based on how much orc you are willing to tolerate in everyday life, and not, say, based on size, or whether it is made from brick or shitboard
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673528 << this is a fine statement of the nonsense. "once market is saturated technologically, 1. invent alternative nonsense criteria 2. let nonsense criteria run sensible criteria out of market". this is how cars work, for instance : the best car ever made were the german items mod 2000s. there is not, nor can t
phf: i didn't get the "half" part
js-of-mp: phf: but of course the real barb in there is the "half" part. as erlehmann aptly pinpoints.
js-of-mp: erlehmann: she means a very specific thing. "it's hard to get cuddled any other way".
jhvh1: js-of-mp: The Lover (1992) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101316/>; The Lover (Duras novel) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lover_(Duras_novel)>; The Lover (film) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lover_(film)>
erlehmann: eh, it's not always unspoken. one woman told me that one reason she fucks around would be that “it's hard to find intimacy while travelling any other way”. because, you know, fucking strangers is a real intimate thing!
js-of-mp: wtf was that film with the whote chick in indochina fucking some local dude ? hm
phf: that is the unspoken part isn't it
js-of-mp: "whenever i go places, i fuck half local. that eases the pain of staying at whatevefr place is both good quality and a good deal, whatever it may be called."
js-of-mp: ask her about smoking the cock instead.
phf: i usually counter that with "lol no hilton in the area, i only stay at hilton" etc. etc.
js-of-mp: phf: and you know right then and there that in any practical terms (ie, slurping some local cock) her trip was a total waste.
phf: it's a big millennial thing, not to be perceived as a tourist. gets almost comedic, where every travel story i heard from a certain type of white girl involves "staying at the house of this local family" or being invited to "this bar that only locals go to" etc.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673514 << and especially in the way where they're better than the locals in every way. and i mean that literally, every way.
js-of-mp: i was recently shocked by this in discovering at a gathering that out of six people present five actually knew trilema, none would have mentioned it ever.
BingoBoingo: In other failed states: Illinois legislature is in "special session" to avoid getting booted from lottery treaty
js-of-mp: phf: there's a difference in the soviet lands between what people know and what they'll admit to knowing.
phf: that seems like central/eastern europe thing though. almost unheard in u.s. (except i guess among diehard stormfront folk), and looks like not as much in western western europe either
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:55 trinque: erlehmann: please bridge the gap for me between "country that is welcoming a flood of foreign invaders" and "omg haet tourists, I'll torch your car"
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673510 << you know how pantsuit party had a lot of support in the polls and then didn't ? german politicians are ENTIRELY illegitimate, the dork in thailand or the one in korea at least are familiar to the populace. german politruks are irrelevant to anyone and to anything.
js-of-mp: and this is specifically the case of berlin. it'll never again be anything more than a 2nd hand bruxelles, that is to say bureaucracy reservation, a la wash dc. art, culture, what have you ain't gonna go there.
Framedragger: erlehmann: i admit i didn't get the reference re id (some event in year 1488?)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:51 lobbes: ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live << I grew up on The Cod in Massachusetts; "working class" locals were always bitching about how much they hated tourists, but that tourism $$$ is the ~only~ thing sustaining that particular sandbar. Fishing is dead, and retail and landscaping indus
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673508 << a) your client is clipping and b) that's obviously the case of berlin. when that sort of bitching is going on, the lido's long sanded and everyone worth two shits gave up and moved on long ago.
js-of-mp: "we'll do all da posturing you can stand with iron gold chains and clip-less shotguns, and then straight outta compton."
js-of-mp: asciilifeform: think about simple preditor, say spider. is "be less hungry" an invitation to "kill self" ? spider is certainly not programmable machine, it has kernel burned in rom and ain't learning anything or in any way changing. yet the difference betwen "be less hungry" and "kill self nao" in the case of the spider is ... ?
Framedragger: you know you're in for some fun when the key is named "multiverseid" lol
erlehmann: Framedragger very old card. but check out how name, illustration and database id align: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=1488
js-of-mp: ben_vulpes: you are aware the lens thickens are you ?
ben_vulpes: side thread on that thread was "also omfg the 'ad industry body image thing' came out of EXISTING TABOOS AGAINST BEING OBESE"
BingoBoingo: "You really think Latinos coming over here to kumbaya with you, think again. Think you only gotta worry about Europeans, think again. These Latinos with their gangs are the new KKK for many of brothers and sisters on the West Coast. And our gangs aren't anywhere close in numbers compared theirs. "
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673487 << i find it lulzy that folx will happily say this to someone to whom they would ~not~ necessarily say 'kill yerself nao, slice lengthwise' . but at the same time the phrases have EQUIVALENT meaning, because at some point you are already as rich as you possibly know how to become.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673500 << this is not only not true, but lacks the ability of carrying truth.
js-of-mp: BingoBoingo: you mean to tell me little short dudes with wet backs buchered the god's children that are afroamericans ?!?!?! BUGT H
BingoBoingo: <js-of-mp> check it out, la moved into frisco over the past three decades. << Aztlan kicked them out of LA. Compton of "Straight Outta Compton" fame was ethnically cleansed of black people by the Aztecs. Note how little the Reverend Al Sharpton spoke of this.
erlehmann: ben_vulpes only that advertising industry is not trying to shame people into being thinner, but to dull their hideounsness
js-of-mp: ben_vulpes: it's not even the body image issue here. but have you noticed gurls in beer commercials have always been dealt 0 anxious/anyoing behaviour, somehow ? just like teens in soda commercials seem to all speedball at the same time, which is 30 seconds before camera light came on.
js-of-mp: i mean, if you're in a shithole sorry enough that drinks on either side of street are the same drink, you really have no business paying anything anyway.
ben_vulpes: tangential thread in my house last night, "sure, advertising industry pushes ridiculous body imagery but a) shame is part of the toolset a society uses to hold down runaway obesity and b) the stupid lazy shits are going to leverage anything they can find to justify their shit behavior and so they took the not-entirely-senseless 'hey, lotsa different body shapes besides the CGI on the teevee can be healthy
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:48 erlehmann: on the other side of the street the drink will cost half as much, but what do you know, tourist!
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673496 << you realise this isn't the be all end all. in nicaragua the flor de cana gran reserva 7yo media will run you about five dollars. BUT WHAT DO YOU KNOW TOURIST!
erlehmann: tbh, it probably isn't. i already spoiled the singular joke.
js-of-mp: i dun see how this is worth the read.
erlehmann: neither before or after that article contains word “jew”
erlehmann: js-of-mp no idea. article kind of dances around question if house owners would burn houses to evict less profitable renters, then interviews one guy who was entrapped to pay for fire. money quote: Gideon was jailed for 17 months. He hung around with the other Jewish prisoners. They were popular. Gideon says the non-Jewish inmates would ask their advice on starting businesses or trading currencies.
js-of-mp: erlehmann: why is the illustration a (bad) drawing of a fire ?
js-of-mp: check it out, la moved into frisco over the past three decades.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673478 << the problem is hat "local community" does NOT get to evlauate negative/positive.
js-of-mp ran into this dork in bsas, with ru chick in tow. my escort directly hit on her, and the dude wanted to review my qualifications.
ben_vulpes: crime of having married a man who doesn't look askance at the growing fat, see also 'health at any size'
js-of-mp: besides, they had a rape in berlin not even century ago, "i sucked it enough".
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:39 ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673477 << but that's the very thing : married "now i can get fat" old cow doens't think she should have to streetwalk because "above her".
ben_vulpes: trinque: "it's all going to shit, and none of us can do anything about it, and isn't it weird that nobody wants to talk about how its going to shit, and maybe we're the crazy ones so STOP BEING SO DEPRESSING
erlehmann: Framedragger they once tried to pander to people like you and do arthouse gaming. newbies stopped playing, now they limit complexity to attract new marks.
js-of-mp: i always suspected im missing out on a lot with the whole trade card thing
trinque: very holy and above it of them.
Framedragger: totally, guilty there
js-of-mp: trinque: ascetism is and always was popular with youth. because if the do without things, that means they've got substance yes/
trinque: I saw this same sort of "conditions worsen daily, isn't it hilarious? but I really don't care, really" in portland among the web developer idiots.
js-of-mp: yeah, arab world has strange relationship with seattle products, all bets are off there.
Framedragger: i did rent out a large whole riad in fez through it, no regrets there
js-of-mp: t airbnb as just another want ads venue. but those places aren't where "it globalist" kids go, nor do those renters meaningfully compete with the rest of the market, that gleefully ignores it like it ignores tumblr.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:32 jurov: O.o my first two airbnb experiences were fine, but that was in greece, they don't mind noise
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673463 << i've not actually yet used airbnb. i don't honestly think it's more than a gloified craigslist made by some kids with handmade ezine cereal boxes or w/e equivalent. but the thing is i generally travel with a herd and we don't deal by the room. though in some places traditional renters do attempt to co-op
js-of-mp: erlehmann: if person isn't home, the population density isn't high enough for jewish ghetto warfare bs of the sort contemplated.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/violence-today-one-arrest-another-suspect-at-large-for-threatening-trump/ << Qntra - Violence Today: One Arrest, Another Suspect At Large For Threatening Trump
js-of-mp: then watch person step repeatedly i nshit.
trinque: I was going after the topics you were avoiding.
phf: erlehmann: oh no, there was no misunderstanding. it's actually other parts of that whole conversation.. some of the things you say and how you say them align with your background in ways in which i can recognize them
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:32 Framedragger: any personal experiences there? i've heard of "frozen piss" bomb concept, yeah
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673459 << eh, nothing beats the flaming bag srsly now. 1. you buy a sturdy paper bag. 2. you take a good shit on it. 3. you put it in front of door. 4.you ring the doorbell 5. you set it on fire.
erlehmann: i often have the problem that i describe a position and then people think i support it. i stopped describing moldbug's ramblings because of that, though i find urbit in particular a quite good idiot test.
js-of-mp: "berliners hate tourists and airbing particularly and i understand how they're thinking"
erlehmann: phf btw is there any way i could have phrased it differently so that “berliners hate tourists and airbnb in particular” could not have been interpreted as “i hate tourists and airbnb in particular”?
js-of-mp: lizard brain gets man out of more trouble than gets him into. except the former\s never counted properly.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 16:32 js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673456 << and the solution to that is to go back out, buy a dozen cyanoacrylate mg things, and fix everyone's lock.
js-of-mp: Framedragger: there's no properly here. i am not saying anything about it is improper.
js-of-mp: this then powers the cringy "oh, people are making choices against their own best interest" by it globalist socialists who eg got into politics "to help people" and disover the people they're helping don't want their help.
Framedragger: i can see how more experience is needed to properly attune these sensors, hm
js-of-mp: "all people are the same in that i don't know about them and all phone chargers fit each other or else you can get converters for a nominal fee" == it globalism.
Framedragger: aha, ok; false assumptions about the breadth of possibility (over-extrapolating the horizon of possibility, something)
js-of-mp: "just because you've never been to the nicaraguan jungle doesn't mean you'd want to" "but mp, how do you know ?" "right."
js-of-mp: except this theoretically only exists through a (sane, of course) misinterpretation of the absence of experience as the presence of possibility.
js-of-mp: Framedragger: not really. something about the expectation that as your penis theoretically plugs any cunt, so does your everything else fit with everyone else's.
Framedragger: something about trying to find local issues vs. accepting that there are irreparable general and systemic issues? that's all i got (not that it's not meaningful)
BingoBoingo: <js-of-mp> recall the clever chick that couldn't make it ? i think he's in a much better position, for being male. << AHA
js-of-mp: 30s = 30 seconds, it's a term of art, most people in footage production these days either trained for, worked for, or aspire to making 30second clips of things for purposes. the ultimate art-with-a-tendency.
js-of-mp: Framedragger: let's put it this way : a youthful expectation that the reason you're not doing 30s beer advertisement with the chick at the bar is because you're not speaking the right language, not because she's fundamentally broken one way and beer advertisements fundamentally broken the other way.
js-of-mp: recall the clever chick that couldn't make it ? i think he's in a much better position, for being male.
js-of-mp: phf: oya, i'm very much settled in comfy-like for the coming lulz of erlehmann unwinding his berliner mindset.
phf: i did find it amusing to see the interaction of two different brands of socialism (Framedragger whose pedigree i think is more of an IT globalism, and erlehmann who's german and a Berliner so he has a very traditional views that were directly shaped by ussr)
Framedragger: that said, i think they may have an issue with onslaught of said teenagers. thus far they are coping
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-23: [16:26:00] <js-of-mp> not anywhere in europe this exists. it's in part excusable because teenagers naturally peacock as ~only activty unless adults make them work. and no adult made anyone work in two decades.
js-of-mp: and generally speaking : whenever the obnoxious old women try to do the group split, force the outgroup identification on her. do they wish to identify your whores as "going naked around" ? fine. let them do it for a coupla weeks then chain them naked to your audi and drag them through the market.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:31 erlehmann: by passion, i mean: some door locks are faulty and seem to spontaneously fail in the middle of the night, when you come back to the ap.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673456 << and the solution to that is to go back out, buy a dozen cyanoacrylate mg things, and fix everyone's lock.
js-of-mp: but today, just the cardboard airplane remains.
js-of-mp: phf: which reminds me, there's this thing in costa rica, "cafe con cuerpo". there's a single solitary chick in stripper ware, very VERY put off by having to talk to people and get them drinks and stuff in that gedup.
js-of-mp: f somehow they fucking should god help us.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:30 Framedragger: (or well, maybe i'm misusing the term)
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673455 << you are misusing the term. gentrification is when the tiresome old women are richer than the pair of 20yo twinks, make them get out. here the pair of 20yo twinks is richer, you get obnoxious old women gathering around the church to whine about how prices are going up on stuff and they can't keep up. as i
phf: seattle though still has holdovers from the neon era. japanese bars that were probably hot in the 80s, that serve purple drinks served in cocktail glass
js-of-mp: phf: yeah, japanese investments in the us sufferent from a bit of "turner buys mysplace" thing : they went home at the same time, drove a real estate panic.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:29 erlehmann: b) many airbnb guests behave in such an obnoxious way that entirely unpolitical people living in the same house hate them with a passion.
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673453 << the problem here being entirely cultural. dumbass "locals" ie, suckers bereft of mobility, imagine to the point of expecting that they'll dictate others' behaviour. in serious need of public nude beatings, zee germanz.
phf: i grew up on the tail end of robocop era, so intimately remember u.s. being bought up by japan. of course i missed the whole crash part, so was severely disappointed when i discovered how bland most of the u.s. urban areas are.
asciilifeform: on the interstate
js-of-mp: not anywhere in europe this exists. it's in part excusable because teenagers naturally peacock as ~only activty unless adults make them work. and no adult made anyone work in two decades.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:20 Framedragger: erlehmann: i've been to c-base a coupla times, curious if there are any hackerspaces which are less about showing off and more about actual DIY projects etc (not sure if can meaningfully interact in the span of only a week tho, i guess)
js-of-mp: phf: the funny thing is that the japanese went though this whole cycle post toyota explosion, you recall ? it didn't work out for them, so i suppose the locals have a hidden hope that a bn strong continent may end up fizzling like a 50mn island did.
js-of-mp: quaffing, queefing, huffing, farting, it's all the same really.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> js-of-mp: hunter thompson had a thing re drinking ether << Nah, huffing it
phf: it is though another one of those u.s. cities being rapidly bought up by chinese, so in some sense it's booming
ben_vulpes: seattle's got the *claptrap*!
js-of-mp: a good dose of the conference clap = gnologee.
js-of-mp: i know all about it, read it on the side of an old 80s mag in my dentist's office.
phf: js-of-mp: funny. i walked down the street from rail station to hotel, and the two outside happy hour groups i passed were talking IT. "yeah, we did some products and about to launch" etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:19 Framedragger: funny thing is i'm not really into raves. at the same time i have a pile of high quality mdma that i now need to dispose of, because changing country. so who knows
ben_vulpes: that ain't the pride i know
js-of-mp: got a lot of unemployed, criminology degreed latinas nobody could be bothered to fuck at home, ben_vulpes. they gotta do SOMETHING OMG PLEASE
ben_vulpes still boggling at the notion that dc pride would be significantly anything
asciilifeform: js-of-mp: hunter thompson had a thing re drinking ether
js-of-mp: phf: are there straight males in seattle btw ?
js-of-mp: ether alcohol ? breaking down that brain barrier finally ? :D
js-of-mp: you mean "for no good reason, ether" ?
asciilifeform: for no good reason either!111
Framedragger: (something like, "the side-effects / leaky state of mp that could not have been contained; it crept onto irc" (i had a beer))
js-of-mp: aw shit, people down history tree will think it's "the javascript of mp" won't they. damn.
js-of-mp: they're everywhere, insistently so.
js-of-mp: BingoBoingo: my automatic gate was dead in cr. so i'm like wtf. the handyman takes it apart, finds gecko in the control box, getting slowl fried.
js-of-mp: they'll probably find a gecko in it.
js-of-mp: but, to come back to the question, apparently everyone in tmsr is working on everything, whatever they do. because the spython being in one strand has implications both ways.
js-of-mp chuckles privately at all the people who will be later going "motherfucker, so he comes on at an ungodly hour, bombs the log and then melts in the mists!!!1"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 19:02 danielpbarron unofficially works on eulora. occasionally publishes patches to the client. almost ready to publish a eulora-gentoo recipe
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673426 << word. lobbes also did a lot, and jurov. these being just the substantial contributors.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 18:28 asciilifeform: 2) does it know about mice, and take input from the mouse ?
js-of-mp: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673371 aww all teh mouse hatred. wtf is wrong with them anyway, xtg took mice pointing, and you used it.
js-of-mp: how the hell did she have sex with a 9yo ?!
js-of-mp: kinda comes-with-the-territory, so to speak. from colombia to southern mexico it's one big rainforest.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 13:58 shinohai: Stay tuned to find out why the ETH genesis block funds have moved. Absolute pin-drop silence on that one.
shinohai: "Anything to declare?" "Well I have this scrap of fabric from one of Ollie North's uniforms. It is critical for the séance"
shinohai: "I want to see if I can call up the spirit of Manuel Noriega!"
js-of-mp: the nicaraguan border people were kinda funny, they were like "purpose of visit ?" "just for fun" then they were "no, seriously, purpose of visit."
js-of-mp: hm, that\s a point, i guess trailer park = government buildings huh. certainly the way it works in the us-liberated terra obscura.
js-of-mp: and i've not even visited the trailer park yet.
js-of-mp: incidentally, you'd like it here. i've seen more barefoot females in the past day than during a whole week of south carolina.
js-of-mp: shinohai: the alcohol had nothing to do with it.
js-of-mp: this shit is addictive btw, anyone noticed ? i had to have them cut out a patch of jungle overnight and there's six confused locals holding up strange religious artefacts, just so i can catch up on logs
js-of-mp: this is the jaguar spirit of mp.
lobbes: (+Framedragger) [15:07:16] yeah, scriba sends `!!up`s if it's not voiced, and then does the `!!v` challenge << lobbesbot behaves in similar manner; sends !!up request when it first joins #t
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: i recall a thread on the tradeoffs of this approach, do you recall? link perhaps?
Framedragger: yeah, scriba sends `!!up`s if it's not voiced, and then does the `!!v` challenge (but is smart enough to stop spamming once it gets voice)
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-23#1673693 << pretty sure the newer bots are doing the !!up dance with deedbot, couple of earlier ones grandfathered in on autovoice
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-06-12 16:42 phf: scriba is not ben_vulpes's bot, so presumably the question is why don't ben_vulpes put up his own log speaker
pete_dushenski: turns out it's quite the mish-mash out there. far from the taught controversy of reddit : "uasf" vs "core" vs "blockstream" . pretty much none of the software versions you read about anywhere outside #t are actually the ones in use.
pete_dushenski: if alf isn't the exception, trinque is more than welcome to remove contravex from deedbot blogroll. i won't be offended even if i do look forward to the comments here, be they negative or positive.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo has it, not sure why asciilifeform still reads my blog ? must be short of things to gripe about in life. he was never a fan afaik, this isn't news, and yet he keeps sticking his hand in fire, wondering why the smell of burning flesh lingers in the air.
trinque: it's a wonderment things don't get better for them when they're behaving as hard as they can.
trinque: I knew that pantsuit grandmother had something to do with it.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:15 asciilifeform: so consider plox answering the q as stated
asciilifeform: and holy shit pete_dushenski... that post. i'ma guess you are writing these on a bet
phf: nah, tmsr is like situationists, has the anti-spectacle protective mechanisms builtin. recurepation will be in form of artisanal log excerpts and "Collected Trilema" and such for a special kind of hipster
asciilifeform: phf: re goldreich -- a very specific and deep type of downer, where you find what by all appearances is the definitive, unsurpassed definitional stem of work in $field -- which turns out to be wholly and deliberately useless on $principalquestion
asciilifeform: specifically re the nphard-ciphers thing
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:26 phf: til, there's a "Knuth Prize" that doesn't actually involve knuth. "The Knuth Prize winner is selected by a Prize Committee consisting of six individuals selected by the SIGACT and TCMFC Chairs. In selecting the Knuth Prize winner, the Committee will pay particular attention to a sustained record of high-impact, seminal contributions to the foundations of computer science. The selection may also be partly based on educational accomplishments and contrib
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice
phf: utions such as fundamental textbooks and high-quality students. The award is not based on service work for the community, although service might be included in the citation for a winner if it is appropriate."
phf: til, there's a "Knuth Prize" that doesn't actually involve knuth. "The Knuth Prize winner is selected by a Prize Committee consisting of six individuals selected by the SIGACT and TCMFC Chairs. In selecting the Knuth Prize winner, the Committee will pay particular attention to a sustained record of high-impact, seminal contributions to the foundations of computer science. The selection may also be partly based on educational accomplishments and contrib
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice
asciilifeform: in other noose, happy international-komyooniti-attacking-su-and-getting-own-arse-handed-to-it-on-a-plate-4y-later day, folx !!
whaack: from what I remember reading about shitfinex, the people with pending bitcoin buy orders at X did not get theirs completed, while at the same time people were forced to sell ("margin called") because price was officially "X-E"
asciilifeform: it's sop, as i understand, method for 'exchange' to defraud the idiots who use exchanges.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:23 shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbjyk4/heres-how-traders-lost-millions-in-the-first-ethereum-flash-crash <<< Lollerz "Some of the affected individuals have already started to organize via a Telegram group with the intention of filing a class action lawsuit against the exchange, but at present GDAX's position is that all margin trades are final, and terms were outlined in advance."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673590 << where did the butthurt go when kraken, shitfinex, et al did same thing?
erlehmann: i'll read the log again to maybe get a clear picture
trinque: "I don't care" is the correct answer.
trinque: in a place that clearly worships this "following the rules of decent discussion"
trinque: then I ask you what the output of all your "the community" and "class not race" noise has been, in your own judgment?
trinque: the republic's forum is not "I will posture on whichever topics don't make me uncomfortable"
erlehmann: trinque i don't actually want to have a conversation about invasion, because i don't particularly care. i came here because of the v versionatron and because i liked the attitude behind that.
erlehmann: Framedragger it is the one where vampires can't do VR because they have autism and see the pixels.
ben_vulpes: trinque: oh hey while on the topic, best way to wind up modern genderbenders, blacklivesmatter et al feebs is to "i mean sure, but isn't that all just embedded in the class struggle?"
trinque: "I don't want to have a conversation re: invasion, so lets instead belabor whether we're all behaving ourselves."
erlehmann: trinque “grandmother-pleasing behavior”?
Framedragger: erlehmann: it's the one where (logreaders, spoilers) alien intelligence which is actually intelligent is not conscious, right?
trinque: erlehmann | asciilifeform you mean conflict is classist, not racist. << the fuck kind of grandmother-pleasing behavior is this?
erlehmann: vice forgot to include that ethereum transactions are indeed reverseable, but only when core developers lose money.
shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbjyk4/heres-how-traders-lost-millions-in-the-first-ethereum-flash-crash <<< Lollerz "Some of the affected individuals have already started to organize via a Telegram group with the intention of filing a class action lawsuit against the exchange, but at present GDAX's position is that all margin trades are final, and terms were outlined in advance."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> you probably would not want bottom 10% of arkansas moving in , either. << FUcking peckerwood trash
Framedragger: oh there's a .de translation apparently, but can't attest to quality