mircea_popescu: but anyway -- state dun just go away because we fucked their dumbass ipv6. they'll just you know, same shit, different node.
mircea_popescu: the whole "private net" a campus is prolly the way of the future. "this is the US 4.4.4.4. argentina got a diff one"
asciilifeform: the 'sinkhole south america, it is a terrorist continent full of mircea_popescus' axe time moment has not afaik yet come.
asciilifeform: re ips -- microshit still gets what it wants 100% of the time, to date, when demands 'sinkhole this botnet c&c ip'
mircea_popescu: all this bakes in the momentary happenstance that the chinese've not yet run out of things to do. once that happens... "cost is no object" as they say. so there's an absolute cap on it anyway.
mircea_popescu: keep facing it with the easy money now dilemma. they ALWAYS make the same choice, which simplifies the management of their rape significantly.
mircea_popescu: wringing it away is worth it in and of itself, that's how you destroy the crown.
mircea_popescu: this agreement, much like the http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-111.0-117.724 thirld world head roach, are pretty much the fumes on which the usg runs today
asciilifeform: soo possibly like the infamous 'nonmilitarization of antarctica' treaties
mircea_popescu: ~because there's still agreement that that'll cost too much.
asciilifeform: i still wonder why ( afaik ! ) there has not been yet an open schism, where usg: 'ip X belongs to Y' but elsewhere 'no, Z'
mircea_popescu: in practice, there's no such thing as a disloyal woman. just women who've not yet met anyone worth bothering with in the sea of schmucks.
mircea_popescu: nothing easier than to overestimate the strength of a length of chain. kinda what compsec turns out to be all about all the time also.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, back in the day i used to specifically buy "trained whore", "will run back". they... never did.
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu actually buy ips ? aint that rather like buying land in manhattan
mircea_popescu: the crazy batshit they have to argue. "oh, ethereum is rapemeat but totally worth the money also ethereum never happened also ethereum has nothing to do with the enthusiams, also black chix code, also that doesn't matter, also"
asciilifeform: on of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance) — yet the price continues to rise.' didjaknow
a111: Logged on 2017-07-01 13:25 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673312 << https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*0L0vei31AKXnhV3yxjDfJQ.png "experienced traders" "honestly can't believe" (https://medium.com/@MattPrusak/an-ethical-dilemma-is-the-ethereum-bubble-amount-to-pop-3b020a866264)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-01#1678068 << lulzgold, >> '...price of Ethereum Classic...product of a schism in the blockchain community last year, is not interchangeable with the main Ethereum blockchain. In fact, market commentators have predicted that ETC will more or less die off. While it has the same fundamental technology, ETC has essentially nothing to do with the mass adoption of Ethereum by recent projects (and the formati
mircea_popescu: thanlks god for the magical alien lizard nazis of bitcoin!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger anyway, appreciate the wisdom of having all that idiotic bubbling consumer behaviour at the outskirts of bitcoin, and the unmitigated power and awesome finesse of actually implementing the wisdom.
mircea_popescu: hey, teh value of a trader is directly proportional to how many dumbass shit they posted on reddit. totally.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 07:43 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/the-poofening-ether-huffers-suffer-price-flash-crash-as-opposed-to-more-frequently-covered-service-crash/ << Qntra - The Poofening: Ether Huffers Suffer Price Flash Crash (As Opposed To More Frequently Covered Service Crash)
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673312 << https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*0L0vei31AKXnhV3yxjDfJQ.png "experienced traders" "honestly can't believe" (https://medium.com/@MattPrusak/an-ethical-dilemma-is-the-ethereum-bubble-amount-to-pop-3b020a866264)
mircea_popescu: "nothing happened, the woman was pushing 300 lbs." "i'm not taking any nutritionism advice from THAT."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, girlz got a gym membership ; and since it was included they set up nutritionist meeting. why the hell not, right ?
mircea_popescu: i dont think those folks read anything online. including their own barf. since 2004 or so
asciilifeform: i have the barf scrolling on dedicated panel 24/7 and when some is 'new' it catches the eye.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, here's a message to the fine folx throwing 'php 0days' by the bucket at phuctor : snoar
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation Presents: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-July/000268.html
asciilifeform: i think the saxons misplaced those.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 99% oralculture by nao. ~all of the civilization-like appearance of the language gained by webster's standardization of orthography -- lost
mircea_popescu: it'd quite incredible hjow much of the us is an oral culture by now. hepacitis my unicode.
mircea_popescu: they misspelled hepatitis
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 16:13 mircea_popescu: this is how conversations go -- if you're talking to alf, he's gonna mention it himself ; if talking to anyone else, you hit them over the head with it.
mircea_popescu: gdp is ~meaningless. it is entirely government window dressing in socialist countries, and entirely "wealth divided to random number" in sane countries. the two are distinguished by "inequality index".
mircea_popescu: except brazil has more industrial base than ~all of europe, and that "per capita" is bullshit as half the country lives on a dollar a day.
sina: GDP/capita in brazil is half of portugal? more money for the same skin
sina: really? I would've imagined the flow to go opposite direction
mircea_popescu: ~the entire raison d'etre of portugal altogether is as "that place where black chicks from africa go to learn portuguese before being shipped to work in brazil brothels."
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677070 << and that's when you realize that the ~adult~ gossipd is a 150x moar complicated item.
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677355 << no contention on this POV, will go in increments towards adulthood, learning along the way
mircea_popescu: have you SEEN the unemployment rates in portugal ? esp among "college graduates" ? and have you seen what redditardation are portuguese unis ?
sina: sir where I live the sun is rising and where you live it may be falling
mircea_popescu: portugal has a large redditard population and nothing else. they need weed for crowd control like the us needs prozac.
sina: I think at this point, given countries like Portugal which have decriminalised a lot of drugstuff, it's clear the lines for drugs is just as arbitrary
mircea_popescu: or did you read the "how to be a pimp" piece on trilema ?
sina: um sure? so the line for some drugs is drawn *here*, and other drugs drawn *there*, and depending on a similarly "nothing there" criteria, some peoples lives are ruined and others enriched
sina: well one can argue that all of the lines in "society" are essentially of the same arbitrary construct
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may -- the notion that a drawing can be at issue is not only just as stupid as usual, but also crits. now you don't even have any sort of available "i really believe this crap" defense.
mircea_popescu: much saner to put all gays in jail because "they offend baby jezuz" than to put all pedos in jail because "they harm little kids"
mircea_popescu: i am making the point that irrespective of whether some group should be oppressed or not, the "justification" proferred for the oppression is ridiculous.
sina: to clarify, are you trying to make the point that childporn shouldn't be prosecuted? or that the definition of childporn is overlybroad
mircea_popescu: fucking gumby's, the lot.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying an idiot ignoring the door and trying to walk through the wall "Came very hard". the hardness isn't the point, the utter idiocy kinda overwhelms it.
sina: ah childporn. yeah they come down on that kind of stuff very hard here
mircea_popescu: that they're thereby negating the very pretense of justification never seems to have occured to them. oh, really, does it harm little drawings ?
mircea_popescu: to my eyes, the true outstanding imbecillity of the remains of the british empire is this, taking the ustardian pretense that "child pornography" and turning it to the point of "CARTOON!!!! child pornography".
mircea_popescu: are you allowed to peruse drawings of little squares labeled mom "fucking" littler squares labeled daugther and/or dog ?
sina: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677338 << hey we're a Commonwealth country so I can't blame you for thinking such but we aren't as bad as the UK on this front! :P
sina: for a sydneysider, 8 degrees C is essentially the siberian tundra
Framedragger: ah, you quoted the athletes part quite exactly, and 'tis a nice passage
mircea_popescu: and this isn't even getting into the whole layer of "i make a webcomic about shit i don't grok" "famous" retardation
mircea_popescu: i've a better chance to find actual human among the barefoot jungle nicas than among the usgistani "famous people".
mircea_popescu is sick of "famous people" like of crab apples. let them sit in some other latrine with their "oh i lost my pgp key 20 years ago" zimmerman and their "i dedicate my life to raising impudent street urchins as if they were white people" bernstein and their "oh hi, rng ?" koch and their "o btw, i lied about that laptop" rms everything else.
mircea_popescu: anyway. is passage there about "football glories" who expect they already did their work and will be getting conference chicken free for life.
BingoBoingo just back from day in the sun and dirt, memory still in lossy mode
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: frederick the great ? or somebody else's 'don't hire genius'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: short of getting on airplane and knocking on his door, i have no further idea
BingoBoingo: Then maybe famous guy like asciilifeform of Loper OS fame ought to email? You've got more history in the field.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677636 << My que of emails to send to the dead/undead is long and vita brevis
asciilifeform: http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2015/03/23/noether1.png << e.g
asciilifeform: ( revisiting upstack: one sad irony of beelzebub : the world-class chix, e.g. emmy noether, tend to be square faces. testosterone will do that. )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 20:40 Framedragger: basically she inherited this terribad codebase, "bridgedb". she rewrote parts of it (possibly finishing the rest but i didn't stay in touch), and fixed all kinds of weird threading issues by effective use of semaphores etc, which is nothing special, but the result is just so damn easy to read
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677861 << if indeed this took place, it is still work for a reasonably middling undergrad, rather than world class
Framedragger: check the video i guess, tastes can differ heh
asciilifeform: but back to the living room, Framedragger there is quite clearly something in yer head that you hadn't put there, you might want to figure out what it is.
asciilifeform: 'treat contents of your head with no less respect than the sofa'
asciilifeform: recall the thread where mircea_popescu wrote 'what if you found something in your living room that you hadn't put there'
mircea_popescu: the whole requirement is to be able to explain, naught more.
asciilifeform: ( or as rebaked by mircea_popescu , http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning )
asciilifeform: ( the sheckley story )
mircea_popescu: so basically, something more in the vein of literate programming than in the vein of lolzjavascript
mircea_popescu: Framedragger see now you're being useful. because the republican notion of "those people" is gendercomits for comments.
Framedragger: and hence need multiple hashrings (which ensure uniformly random distribution of them), etc.; many moving parts.)
Framedragger: "heavily documented and commented without useless comments code", effective use of OOP in python without using classes just for the sake of it, tackling a technologically entangled thing (i could explain but basically there is this "bridge db" which gives "bridges" at some churn rate, but bridges come in different "buckets" (different obfuscation protocol etc),
mircea_popescu: well, might be the first time he's confronted with this issue.
trinque: Framedragger: you're avoiding spilling the "what was not all nonsense"
Framedragger: trinque: she agreed that "yes i was quoting here because i liked the quote, didn't understand in depth", many times, while at the same time i didn't think it was all nonsense. i would have to dig up to actually provide examples, which i suppose yes would be nice.
mircea_popescu: and you wrote the original ?
Framedragger: i don't mean easy as in lazy, i mean that there was no point for the historical bad to be so clumsy
Framedragger: basically she inherited this terribad codebase, "bridgedb". she rewrote parts of it (possibly finishing the rest but i didn't stay in touch), and fixed all kinds of weird threading issues by effective use of semaphores etc, which is nothing special, but the result is just so damn easy to read
trinque: 'engaging' is a tripeword marketing people use when there's no content
mircea_popescu: trinque would "Scholastics" sound any better ? cuz it's thje same thing, unchanged since the uni was invented, by the turks, in 1200.
Framedragger: well the video is technical-only
trinque: "I supposedly read some books, and now listen to me prattle about myself while I stand on the books"
mircea_popescu: sort-of like nigger-rigging is what they call us navy works.
mircea_popescu: it's what they call it, "feminist" bla bla.
trinque: > feminist critical theory
asciilifeform: ( http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/sy10-100e137.pdf << for the intrepid. )
asciilifeform: don't drink from the sewer hatch, folx. it's no well.
asciilifeform: 'by their fruits you shall know'em'
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 19:43 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'Above all Dr Craig Wright is humble, kind and generous. Although its widely accepted that the Bitcoin developers are brilliant engineers. A major problem is that the developers have horrible and nasty personalities. Dr Wright is generous, humble, calm, polite and above all nice. Bitcoin will therefore hugely benefit from Dr Wright returning to more actively participate in Bitcoin engineering and research. ' didjaknow!!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677810 << what the fguck is this contemptible cunt drool.
asciilifeform: shinohai: 'Above all Dr Craig Wright is humble, kind and generous. Although its widely accepted that the Bitcoin developers are brilliant engineers. A major problem is that the developers have horrible and nasty personalities. Dr Wright is generous, humble, calm, polite and above all nice. Bitcoin will therefore hugely benefit from Dr Wright returning to more actively participate in Bitcoin engineering and research. ' didjaknow!!
asciilifeform: and have effective horsepower of, say, a 50Mhz 486, in the end.
asciilifeform: ( load the tables into sram on warmup... )
asciilifeform: a basic ttatron needs maybe 6 of these, plus a few glue gates.
asciilifeform: in other relateds, SY100E137 is rated for 1.8GHz (8bit programmable counter), ~$6 in qty=1.
asciilifeform: not only photographed, but there is a 'chemical' level sim of it
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit that it is ~useless for crypto
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hence the ttacpu thread.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677358 << no fully documented cpu was made in the past 30 years ; and possibly at all.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:48 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677070 << and that's when you realize that the ~adult~ gossipd is a 150x moar complicated item.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677355 << nothing wrong with either lobe of that.
asciilifeform: the 'afterburner' for instance. mega-invention.
mircea_popescu: there's also that.
asciilifeform: trinque: often it suffices to burn down the sty, not to clean it.
trinque: can go into the sty, but avoid fondness for shit as a coping mechanism
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wright, chowdhra, et al would have considerably moar lulzpotential if they ever had gotten hold of, say, a key or two
mircea_popescu: before that, they were still in denial, "oh, it's just a nose bleed, we get these naturally, fist was incidental".
mircea_popescu: it's an entirely spurious claim, of course, but then it's an entirely spurious criminal org making it, so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, re that wright "i totally was fondled by bitcoin in a hotel room he was occupying" imbecile : i suppose the backup claim of "well, bitcoin now patented! terrorists!" just in case "everything else" keeps blowing up is being "serviced".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. "bland, rather stupid woman. but she could walk back when i was six months old"
mircea_popescu: this is why people even get their own fucking head and their own history in the first place -- so that such great stories can occur.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing whatever wrong with "woman took me to sushi. it was a restaurant, she didn't even cook it, or work there, or pay. and yes people have been having sushi far longer than they've been having hamburger but it was my first time and i'll always remember her fondly, notwithstanding she died of an overdose while trying to rob a kindergarten at gunpoint (she thought she was inside the bank next door)."
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:20 Framedragger: this ad hominem (some ad hominems are completely valid, that i understand) is orthogonal to technical knowledge and its conveyance to other people. i know that there is no apolitical knowledge and you maybe can't separate the two, but i think sometimes it's possible, to an extent.
mircea_popescu: the only question left is if apple could buy iLegal action and make a country out of it.
mircea_popescu: "hey usg criminal organisation, would you like to back up the false claims made by some random new york hotel whore/maid you picked up specifically to make those false claims ???"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:21 shinohai: "Wright also reiterated that he’s ready to take legal action against those who have ridiculed his claim of being the creator of Bitcoin, which he made back in 2016. "
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:18 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677141 << hadn't had a chance to pick it up for a bit; got time this weekend though. item I've got can maintain balances, send and mark-paid invoices. I think I'll handle deposits manually and call that a first cut, trb address tracking without a privkey isn't there yet.
asciilifeform: i'ma have to raise the busy wire on this one
mircea_popescu: have you seen the piece of ass in discussion ? isis lovecruft chick ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677329 << nothing wrong with that, and there's no requirement for a unified saint book either.
mircea_popescu: cheaper better looking eagerlier ass awaits barefoot in the jungle.
asciilifeform: well most of it in the 'adjust yer expectations' direction
a111: Logged on 2016-12-14 19:05 asciilifeform: not only could it, but there's been a d00d serving up his www on a pic16f84, via slip, since 1990s...
mircea_popescu: "don't try to use the king's own mail system (with incantations! and lemon juice!) to get your dope -- not have problems with getting your dope". and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's by now a well established fact through republican practice, this original idea that "all the benefits of non-usg, you get by simply making non-consumer choices".
asciilifeform: also nicely illustrates 'specificity of diddling'. you buy a bucket of 74xxxxolade. enemy wants to diddle'em en route -- but which ONES? and how ? ( he has nfi where each set of gates will end up going in the scheme )
asciilifeform: aha, see the 'egyptological' ffa posted last month
mircea_popescu: make a 4096 word machine and be done wit hthe shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rsa looks harder than it is because of the ludicrously short machineword of the pc
asciilifeform: phuctor is not the objective imho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's reasonably priced in numbers rather than unicode ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677321 << the problem with one's life is that pay's never enough in retrospect.
asciilifeform: to revisit the tta cpu thing : i investigated 'can haz ecl?' and found reasonably priced 4+GHz discrete logic
asciilifeform: sumbody with a track record of folx actually answering... plox ping the d00d
mircea_popescu: a wot with a few respectable old timers in would be significantly stronger than their individual market value.
mircea_popescu: (as an aside, i don't expect any of these fucktards, gilmore, bernstein, whatever, even remotely give enough of a shit about anything not tittlating their anal orifices, BUT! it'd help me fucking immensely if they actually were in, because of sybil considerations. but they dun wanna, becausew why should the world not stink.)
asciilifeform: 'The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.' also him
asciilifeform: '...have spent a lot of time working on crypto export control issues. led the team that built the world's first publicly announced DES Cracker...' etc
mircea_popescu: eh, let him google his name like any other noob.
asciilifeform: holy mother of fuck
mircea_popescu: took her most of the day to even get her head wrapped around what exactly she's not understanding about what happened.
mircea_popescu: yest i wanted to make myself batido, the swiss iutem was fullo of some health crap the girls drink, so i was whatever. then later new girl emitted "it's clean now!" signal and i was like "bitch, srsly ? you're... signalling me now ?!"
mircea_popescu: motherfucking signals.
mircea_popescu: to simply "run it by the clock"
asciilifeform: it's how you read/write the actual stable signal you put/got , rather than liquishit.
asciilifeform: anyway the badnoose for mircea_popescu is that you're stuck with the busy signal because that's what the 's' in sram or sdram stands for. the synchronicity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nono, there's this wire, and it does 1thz, and you connect w/e you want to it, go ahead.
trinque: sitting on 32gb of the stuff atm
mircea_popescu: not if there's any real engineers involved!
mircea_popescu: 1khz or 1thz, whatever you can get the hardware to do.
mircea_popescu: none of that. just poll at fixed speed. that is the clock.
asciilifeform: the traditional scheme is that a read happens when the thing being read drops its busy line; and a write begins when when the 'victim' drops his busy signal, and ends when he drops it again after raising.
mircea_popescu: basically it's a signal processor someone dropped on the floor.
mircea_popescu: trinque yes. asciilifeform he's trying to visualize how the damned thing talks to the world.
trinque: for the slower cogitaters trying to keep up, this guy has two registers? operations hanging off the executor read from these?
asciilifeform: as in, 3 orders of magnitude slower than others.
mircea_popescu: this sounds like engineer problem, really. make the multer same speed as adder.
mircea_popescu: the real gain is if this thing could be signal-less
asciilifeform: 'ready signals' are how you finesse the problem of subcomponents of different speeds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not "naturally" they always run, since "ready signals" were mentioned.
mircea_popescu: the compiler for arbitrary this arch would be one helluva piece of gnarl.
mircea_popescu: well, tree them.
asciilifeform: and you can likewise 'chain' the 'cpus' with ~0 effort.
asciilifeform: naturally they 'always run'
asciilifeform: is the point.
mircea_popescu: the one thing that comes to mind is that the correct approach is for all devices hanging off bus to always run, so that when cpu gets 0xaa 0xbb then the mult mults, the adder adds, and nobody knows WHICH of them the processor peeked for the result.
mircea_popescu: it sounded like signal processor at first, but then it kinda went bent. wouldn't this be damned slow ?
asciilifeform: so for instance if you want to load in a constant somewhere, you gotta read it from the constanttron (which is some range of addrs)
asciilifeform: all other operations exist in the form of devices that hang off this bus, right next to the memory
asciilifeform: the current instruction ptr is, e.g., address 0.
asciilifeform: there exists ( in the sense where asciilifeform thought of it, but then went to dig in the dusty libraries and discovered ancient tomes ) a thing called 'tta'
mircea_popescu: i suppose so. but eg "power diff analysis" very much "leverage of the thingness of item"
asciilifeform: to what extent can ideal object (proggy) be conceptually cut from the physical 'mortal soil'
asciilifeform: well this is the mega-question of our time neh
asciilifeform: given that the system includes a physical component, this is reasonable
mircea_popescu: which makes the "0 days cost X" a legitimate statement of the ~security~ of a system.
mircea_popescu: the ~only way to specify the security of a certain, definite, given system is still "good for up to $x btc"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja read the beginning, say, of ffa. there's a proof of correctness for the adder, for instance.
mircea_popescu: because no, by your own lights within five minutes, NOT "like theorem". unlike theorem.
mircea_popescu: in this case <asciilifeform> like theorem. is entirely spurious non-contribution to teh discussion.
asciilifeform: 'sqrt(2) is irrational' -- theorem
mircea_popescu: oooo, that's what it was! check you out, YOU introduced the word theorem to describe what we were discussing, and then conveniently YOU point out YOU used the wrong word ?
asciilifeform: or turn into theorems
asciilifeform: these live, and die.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 16:05 asciilifeform: there is not ( and probably provably cannot be ) a 'luby for computation'
asciilifeform: nope. 'gradated' theorems are called 'conjectures' instead.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are in fact gradations of validity in theorem, and you use them daily.
asciilifeform: no physical beams of steel to fatigue, in theorem.
asciilifeform: like theorem.
asciilifeform: the duty of engineer is to ignore godel. like soldier's is to ignore death.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
mircea_popescu: in practice, "what's this tank worth" doesn't depend on "there is NO ARROW THAT COULD PIERCE THIS SHIELD!!!" nonsense.
asciilifeform: either system accepts an unanticipated input and produces unanticipated rape, or it does not.
asciilifeform: that's the spec for ffa, for instance.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mnope. how about 'the only 0day is an asteroid'
mircea_popescu: "do not put over $x in aggregate on this system" is pretty much the only way you'd do it anyway.
mircea_popescu: point remains -- "the only available 0day costs > 100k" is a legitimate specification-of-security.\
asciilifeform: ( see the old treblinka thread )
asciilifeform: the wunderwaffen, when it works, works exactly like the auschwitz guard's machinegun - 'can't shoot all of the prisoners, but can shoot any particular in 1 go'. and fails in exactly same gametheoretical way.
mircea_popescu: "you have to plan for your future" "how about your daugther plans for parenthood"