mircea_popescu: but otherwise, yes, daily.
mircea_popescu: the only time they don't dare is when the girl is right there and she's taller than them and as the song went, "modelul nou de fata s-ar putea sa-l bata"
mircea_popescu: i'd say that explains it then.
asciilifeform: 'What about if we just block all possible ways to do this? We could block the production of any of these dangerous things? We could have someone decide. But it would also block legit things, and people will work around it. Another thing we could do- we plan to introduce blocks of some sort, but we don't have a plan for how those blocks will work. '
kanzure: nmz787 took an electron microscope. the gigascope never materialized though.
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> jrayhawk_: would you be willing to host a microscope? responsibilities would include keeping it plugged in and internet connected. also there would be an irc bot that controls where it looks. you'd also be pestered to load samples periodically. << did this 2014 idea ever get implemented ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone can be arsed to process them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's still oil in the soil nobod ycould be arsed to process. to this day!
mircea_popescu: "as it is now, you can't have any jobs because there aren't any. but if there were some, you still couldn't have any, this time for being the suck."
mircea_popescu: this is the lulzy dark side of MAGA : supposed it worked, and suppose there were all these jobs... and supposed teh beoble applied, and they were turned down for sucking.
mircea_popescu: not a fucking clue, just bumbling idiots barely a shade above the herd they supposedly shepherd through "Science!!"
mircea_popescu: it took hold, and now they are actually dorks.
mircea_popescu: you know, it started with this 80s "judges are not to wear their capes in kid court lest the implicit, intended majesty of office scares children". then the "slightly aloof" but totalluy "genius" uni professor occured in the 90s. he spoke like a dork deliberately.
mircea_popescu: let's go back to the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691201 lulz for a moment here.
asciilifeform: all this international trade of drugs? You can't make any of the drugs we have right now in a clandestine way. You have to have giant tanks, or fields of poppeye. I have no idea what the effects of this are, but I think they are probably really big.'
asciilifeform: ake this methcoli. Maybe she thinks it's about French culture, and then it grows in her intestines, and she gets either really high or really dead. This is a rusty nails situation. There is a risk that is not intuitively related to what you were doing. This is what scares me. Somehow you have to mitigate that risk. There's also the drug thing with geopolitical consequences of being able to make drugs easily. Right now, why do we have
asciilifeform: 'But I am more concerned about drugs, like methamphetamine. I think meth might be easy to synthesize at biologically active quantities with existing technologies. Why is this a problem? I'm not into drugs myself, but there are dangers. They are probably going to do it with a $40 yogurt maker, you do the engineering in a yeast... then there's a problem. This is someone who .. thoroughly deskilled at this point. It takes no effort to m
asciilifeform: aaaand they've blown it ~all on neutron detectors.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well for some defintions thereof. They seem rather insistent on selling it off.
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> just dumping this rare element overboard for no reason other than we don't feel like keeping it anymore << speaking of He, it's pretty much the only material in which usg has a monopoly. china and to some degree russia own the rare earths/heavy metals, but teh u7s got teh heliumz.
BingoBoingo: kanzure: See http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> fbi was concerned that we were bioterrorists << Eh, back in summer 2014-ish FBI and Department of Treasury knocked on my door. I did the sane thing and blogged it.
asciilifeform: 'The question was asked if you guys would sell.. if you guys ordered with a DIY scientist, not affiliated with an academic lab, someone said- not DNA2.0- or IDT.. yeah, maybe it was IDT. I'm not remembering that because, if you are a bonafide science doing bonafide work. What does that mean? It means you're not on the exclusion list, and it means you're not a bad actor....'
asciilifeform: ublished work on bioterrorism stuff. Bonafide researchers in academic institutions are (aren't?) on the list. We've only had one circumstance where we had someone we chose not to sell to, and we referred to the FBI in 10 years of business. It's not a huge practical issue, but it doesn't take a lot of mistakes.'
asciilifeform: 'I would consider it irresponsible to sell a potentially dangerous composition of matter to someone who you don't know or haven't met. It's just bad judgement. Most of the people on that list are either folks with a history of exclusion for various fraudalent activities, either domestically or internationally, or people who might potentially being terrorists kinda environment, or folks who have published in North Korea, or who have p
mircea_popescu: "If you are using city water, filter it. If you are using a closed circuit flow system, check the water and change it every six weeks or so, or drop a few drops of Algaecide in the recirculator. Better yet, use diluted Dow Frost. << howling shits, who uses anything but prop glycol for this ?! srsly, water ? you spring 20 bux for your car, but want the laser free ?
asciilifeform: 'For example, National Institutes of Health database which has a great list of compounds and sequences that are suspect, it's wonderful to do searches against it. But you're not allowed to do them during the business day because it puts too much pressure on their servers, so you're supposed to do that after hours.' << ahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: hey, they gotta try.
asciilifeform: 'the goal of this gathering is to "foster the positive relationship among FBI, DIYbio, amateur biology, and local stakeholder communities to ensure safe conduct in science." '
asciilifeform: 'We recognize that there are people out there that want to cause harm to the US' interests.' << who could possibly?!111
mircea_popescu: what was it, hate facts, negative science, and other things that ruined the clinton dream.
asciilifeform: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/fbi-diybio-2012/intro/ >> 'We're not interested in silencing or stopping science. We're interested in stopping the trends on the negative side. We're here to support science. '
mircea_popescu: but they did. one of our time's anthropo-mysteries.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why the pantsuit actually thouight clinton is a star or at least star material.
asciilifeform: 'We had Secretary Clinton appear, and she's an international celebrity. We were showing that this is important to the US. '
mircea_popescu: WE WILL FLY DESK TO THE MOONS!
mircea_popescu: "Weclome to the conference. I am the local WMD coordinator for the SF division. I've been working with the biocurious folks in SV. Welcome to SF, you guys have a great time, the weather is fantastic." in other lulz.
mircea_popescu: did they buy ?
mircea_popescu: one of the lulzier bits of french law.
kanzure: ok i think you would be more interested in the time that the fbi weapons of mass destruction division assigned special agents to us
kanzure: i think there was an actual counter at some point
kanzure: ultrasound imaging requires a prescription in the usistan (sorry i forget your pet name)
mircea_popescu: kanzure so it's just implicit ? why 5 rather than 48 ?
mircea_popescu: a there is that.
asciilifeform: kanzure: join doesn't put the people who were talking, magically back, and you folx don't appear to have a culture of linking to logz (or mechanism for handily pointing at individual lines)
kanzure: turns out the fda regulates a lot of things
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 03:10 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, * Topic for ##hplusroadmap is: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times)
asciilifeform reads the heathenl0gz, grunts with frustration that there is no ready place to... reply to anything
mircea_popescu: kids do it all the time, "i have a professional tennis racquet, just like agassi". it's ok for a 15yo.
mircea_popescu: this notion that "if i pile up enough blue items to make a bower i'll thereby be a bower-biologist and science will frlow from me" is nonsense.
kanzure: so do lots of other people
mircea_popescu: heck, i met this chick in cairo, she lived inside a perfectly empty hole in the ground most us solitary inmates wouldn't deem fit as a prison. she had six children.
mircea_popescu: there's no goal.
mircea_popescu: because you don't want any or because there's a certain amount of equipment you need before you can have children ?
kanzure: mircea_popescu: child labor is only as good as the children
mircea_popescu: and speaking of < kanzure> there is a certain amount of equipment you need before you can do useful biology things << hey kanzure do you have children ?
mircea_popescu: i can speak of Whatshername Horseface all the time. people know who i mean.
asciilifeform: how are the chumps to find your identical-to-1,001-other-turds, without remembering $magicword.
asciilifeform: well yes, just like the hilt is never omitted on knife
mircea_popescu: screenwriter for one of the hbo shows may have all of 11 syllables to explain whatever-it-is, and by god five or six will go to "REALITYWINNER" equivalent.
mircea_popescu: but let me illustrate : have you noticed how when under space pressure and trying to introduce a tech item, whatever it may be, the ONE BIT that's ABSOLUTELY NEVER omitted is the name ?
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: mayweather
mircea_popescu: which of the numerous links we've been blessed with was this ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Mayweather's communion with civilization proceeds exactly to the bounds of mastering his vocation and nearly half an inch further.
BingoBoingo: Well, the irish are blacker still
mircea_popescu: i dunno, the irish guy looked just as ridoinculous.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz. << It's a black thing
mircea_popescu: kanzure this jan 2009 log is entertaining. i take it the ongoing decade has not resulted in any "some random company needs us to design them some manufacturing assembly equipment. We say we'll do it cheaper (or whatever), we license it all open source and so on, make our money from it, and apply it to what we need to get done in our tech-base of free stuff anyway."
mircea_popescu: 14:55 < kanzure_> http://bitcoin.org/ yet another p2p currency piece of crap (jan 1 2009).
shinohai: I think the pattern looks like the chalk lines on the cloth when you go to get *fitted* for a suit
mircea_popescu: looks like the dressed cat in that tom and jerry cartoon.
mircea_popescu: why would an athlete try to wear skinny suits anyways. not for them.
shinohai: Must be the new generation of pantsuit! >.>
mircea_popescu: shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz.
phf: err, i misread, that was the total number
mircea_popescu: holy shit, 0 ad is already midway into the past ? seems like only yesterday...
mircea_popescu: ONE penny comes to almost 4btc over the logs.
phf: since we added ancient logs into the negative numbers, the actual count is not represented by current max id
shinohai: Look out mp >>> https://twitter.com/FloydMayweather/status/900459256784334851
mircea_popescu: shakespeare is similarily not paying the folk writing shakespeare write-ups. they do it to learn.
shinohai: I tried the whole "find x in teh logz" thing for someone once, though it was not a matter of being lazy, it was more of my time is worth more than pennies to do so.
kanzure: i was going to pay someone to read logs and write summaries but they chickened out
mircea_popescu: past season, i also read a million lines. the machine is going, what you feed it is its problem, but it will be going nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: phf but in any case, i ~can~ read a million lines. take me a season, but then again what are seasons for,.
asciilifeform: 'we have to destroy the village, in order to save it'
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:21 mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
phf is mildly curious is mp is doing his "once i found a thing, i read the whole archive" thing on 5gb or whatever it is of their log..
asciilifeform: gotta love these folx, 'patent' on item that lived in soil for $fuckknows million year
mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
mircea_popescu: im sure if you pin down anyone enough to ask it's you know "a protective patent" to "protect it" from "the bad guys"
mircea_popescu: yawell. usia. recall that article aboput how nobody can keep up with the printing to satisfy the wowow fantasy ?
shinohai: I hear they lock you in a room and force you to read coindesk articles all day.
mircea_popescu: anyone with a diy interest in microbiology should be doing precisely that at least fucking once, these days.
mircea_popescu: wtf is your excuse not running around planting chips in your back yards to find the next teixobactin ?
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> you could have a dialysis membrane in a microfluidic chip i guess << speaking of vaguely this : the great success of the new microflora research chips was so great it even made it to qntra! seems an eminently crowd-source-able item, in a useful way at that.
mircea_popescu: but, whether it got put there by address owner or not, still same queue same process, so whatdiff does it make.
mircea_popescu: trinque ah, good i said something then. any strong reason for this ?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705403 << I didn't expect it to be used direct to address anyway, but rather to just change hands, then the other guy has to ask for a withdrawal
mircea_popescu: (apartments, one above, one below. the one below had an electrically leaky stove, so i bought metalware and punished girlies had to make coffee on it. ZAP ZAP ZAP.)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, is thwe current trilema header my dorkiest pic ever or what.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i read the 'wizards' heathen logz, every few month, and know what it is that seems to occupy you lot
mircea_popescu: as i told the girl saturday, "i'll tell you when you ask!"
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: they'll keep breaking it for so long as physically possible.
mircea_popescu: nice work danielpbarron ; shows the value of keeping proper tapes huh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like i've read the d00d before, long ago. but can't remember when, and where..
mircea_popescu: so the -ists as basically, the filename, whereas the file contents is a pile of heuristics/hacks, work as well as you might expect ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think a thinking man is any kind of ist. i think it's an affect, one could be a rationalist and then he's going to talk about occam and denounce causes, or one can be some kind of mystic, and then he's going to have a particular stance also. i don't think any of this has to do with with any sort of understanding.
mircea_popescu: these are related.
asciilifeform: the 2 are as related as cock is to pencil.
mircea_popescu: give it more power, it'll cut through other things! :D
asciilifeform: kanzure: now, here's 1 cnc tool for which you ~don't~ need rigidity -- electrolytic cutting head. was tried in su, and still (!) in production today, but 'industrial' scale. would be interesting to see compact version thereof. ( see old log )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mommentum-inertial could work as substitute for mass-inertial as a ready notion. who knows what other cleverness lies silent.
kanzure: hexapods, rather.
mircea_popescu would like to hear what the man says.
mircea_popescu: the ~right~ quesrtions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you were cured. but he's, again, asking the right question.
mircea_popescu: so basically, either a slut (cock comes through the glory hole, i suck it, what do you want from me) or else a fanatic (allah told me!). otherwise, thinking man has no alternative but to be rationalist ?
asciilifeform: hey, i was cured. ( 'inexpensive' and 'portable' does not go with the mass you need for useful accuracy cutting even aluminum )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 19:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704893 << what'd be the alternative to the rationalist without quotes here ? like an existentialist say ? or perhaps an "artist" ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705282 << i think empiricist, but also perhaps a mystic would be another alternative, i.e. knowledge through divine revelation. i think perhaps also traditionalist, i.e. inherent knowledge
mircea_popescu: on the basis of his authority (as i understand it) i can decode meaning out of words.
mircea_popescu: kanzure a ty. the reason i ask him is that i know him, you see. like in http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
mircea_popescu: well, maybe it should be worrisome the best times were in 2014, but yes, seems alive enough.
mircea_popescu: 14:43 < kanzure> i was just going through "the list" in my head (i don't really have a list, i'm just making things up that sound important) << ehehehe. this is becoming very alike that seinfeld episode where they had an opposite world and there was an opposte alf named fenn and so on. THE RSMT!!!
mircea_popescu: kanzure> i wonder if people just signed their work with leibniz's name as a way to get it preserved << your reference points are pythagoras and perhaps
mircea_popescu: the original privateers were created through letters patent ; the meaning of the word there is very much in the vein of monarchical absolutism. it was later co-opted when industrial revolution folk wanted a way to claim transcendence for acts of commerce.
mircea_popescu: this is one of the main ways in which wiki "education" fails. to understand things you must follow their pedigree not merely attempt to recognize instantaneous shape.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you are experiencing the following problem : you do ocr on old text, which produces ambiguities that bite you in the ass. yes the string "patent" can be found in medieval and early modern period documents. the item thereby denoted however is not a patent.
mircea_popescu: 12:23 < kanzure> there is a certain argument about not always throwing away legacy code, but i currently forget the exact argument << it was joel writing up netscape implosion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 12:22 <@fenn> how many lines of code is OCC? <<< see, he is asking the right question. i knew my patience will be dug back out from the hole by the unfolding of events!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704898 << well i was going to read that after the log, but since you put spoilers in there ima go read it first and continue later.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:10 kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704897 << see, the problem is not THAT it's ponyfic ; but that it's bad. there's plenty of demand for good fearmongering (don't stick your tongue in wall socket, son!), the problem is there's no demand for bad fearmongering. it's the quality, not the kind of item, that's the problem.
mircea_popescu: in particular phf what'd be the name for "opinions and actions based on "i don't see anything wroing with it"" ? still rationalist ?
mircea_popescu: i take it we're all aware how athens (ie, wisdom) was born according to the greeks, yes ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:00 phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704893 << what'd be the alternative to the rationalist without quotes here ? like an existentialist say ? or perhaps an "artist" ?
asciilifeform: 'ethertardium dao evaporated on its own'
asciilifeform: or kako's 'shitcoin forks went away on their own, they just didn't feel like winning'
asciilifeform: term from heathen world
asciilifeform: which is why you end up observing what the 'pill' folx called 'hamstering', when confronting them , rubbing nose in it
mircea_popescu: by the oject ? but ofcouars.
asciilifeform: i suspect that most of the 'golden cage' behaviour is unexamined
mircea_popescu: the captured male how to behave so it doesn't rub wrongly. Example suffices, he will perhaps protest but certainly learn and definitely change to fit the limit on his penis. It's not like he's not very eager to alter his behaviour so he can maintain that sweet, sweet delicious cage for longer, for as long as possible, forever. Whatever he may say, it's all window-dressing for that simple, fundamental fact -- he's happier neu
mircea_popescu: protective confines of your steel gift. They do want to, all of them do. Impediments, such as exist, all come from circumstantial happenstance, you have to be careful not to pinch their delicate skins putting it on -- and mind that for every inch of physical skin males have miles upon miles of mind-skins enveloping them like a far-reaching cocoon. Once on, you'll have to make sure it doesn't rub wrongly, and especially teach
mircea_popescu: "Every male you ever run into will be looking for an excuse, to explain to himself, and to "everyone else" as he represents that in his head, why he isn't doing, more, better, etcetera. You happen to have an exceptional answer, and one that he is extremely eager to receive from you. For this reason you are to expect no fundamental problems, it's not like you might run into a male that doesn't want to find himself in the safe,
mircea_popescu: actually, let's put this in the log.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:26 asciilifeform: 19:41 <@fenn> the patent was the excuse everyone used for not sharing their homegrown plasmids
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i'm against violence" "you'll get discounted out of existence in the marketplace" "uhhhh!"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:44 mircea_popescu: windows will either compete with tmsr or go away. if it competes -- it becomes. if it goes away -- it becomes. there is no choice and there is no will.
mircea_popescu: back in 2014 the idea was that they are (and in fact they were, mostly by accident). it's been generally washed out of them by now.
asciilifeform: that these people are sitting on coin, is an atrocity, and the sooner corrected -- the better
mircea_popescu: from experience they subjectively think they're "doing pretty good" ; in any case "better than those other deplorables". whereas discoursively he could in principle say anything, chiefly because is not convinced words carry any meaning. as long as he's not saying something verboten like "africans have no culture", it's all up for grabs. "for controversy" which is somehow related to "funding".
asciilifeform: either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even false, i dunno there's much worth reading in english. i mean one can be done with twain and shakespeare in a summer.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, ANOTHER aspect of discipline reveals itself. "work on what mp tells you to work on, not on what you think is fun to work on".
asciilifeform: and the inevitably comorbid 'i know enlish, i Can And Have Read Everything There Was Worth The Reading'
asciilifeform: the not-left-AND-not-right-can-of-pepsi is not conceptualizable, apparently
asciilifeform: witness the response, also typical, 'oh hey , you don't fellate lincoln? you must LUVV AYNRAND then'
mircea_popescu: "who squeezed all the life outta ya anyways"
mircea_popescu: i can't. it's as incomprehensible to me as the girls. a boy that dun wanna fight, really ? exactly like a girl that dun wanna fuck, i look at these like a dog looks at a painted bone. "nice work i guess lol. but..."
asciilifeform: to the fella for whom even his plasma tv is magical artifact
asciilifeform: i can grasp the psychology ( psychiatry..? ) of the california folx. yes, imaginary star drive or immortality nanobot pill is 'moar exciting' than real-life little board with fpga...
mircea_popescu: myeah. good thing people are busy "thinking" about things they don't understand instead.
asciilifeform: plenty of green field left also. e.g. the freebsd-had-no-rng-for-two-years thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, surgeon general's warning : openssh is at this point known by the republic to be cryptographically weak.
asciilifeform: ( the debian primes are well-known )
asciilifeform: personally i'm interested in the nondebian ones
mircea_popescu: if it's the case that "here's this list of 200 primes which popped 2000 moduli", then we should make a histogram of moduli per prime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mechanism is, if isprime(N / q), then p = N/q , announce(p).
mircea_popescu: and further, how many are the same factors ? because it's starting to occur to me we might be able to find an openssh bug through birthdaying the factors it keeps popping up.
mircea_popescu: a speaking of which asciilifeform i was meaning to ask, seeing how they keep popping in pairs : how many times as a % of cases is that when we pop a modulus we pop it for BOTH p and q ?
asciilifeform: hey, recall, g_l's 'fuck off with your old stolid newton, i will make UNIFIED THEORY!'
asciilifeform: very easy to kneel to the majesty of nsa, when you skipped kindergarten and have nfi how to find q given a p...
mircea_popescu: wtf transfuckinghumanism! there's all this basic humanism stuff to be still mastered!
mircea_popescu: dude this possibly takes the cake. i mean the previous contender was what, something in basic physics. but this is...
asciilifeform: 01:26 < adlai> hint: try finding the 2nd factor
mircea_popescu: a recall the gazelle and cheetahs scenes ?
mircea_popescu: you know you can have wolf pups that don'\t attack the farm animals ?
mircea_popescu: THEN they keep biting the steel girder in any real interaction, because guess what, if you're not watching tv the conventions of tv world aren't enforceable.
asciilifeform: wolf in the forest, also trained?
mircea_popescu: they get trained by tv and candy crush to be as superficial as possible because it reduces production costs significantly.
asciilifeform: this is what, the 5th d00d.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:35 mircea_popescu: because the political power is a super-2 exponential on smarts, whereas cost is a logarithmic on stupidity, it's very easy to be powerful hanging out with smart people. almost as easy as it is to go bankrupt hanging out with many people.
mircea_popescu: goes right back to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704371 ; it's very easy as an author to write great books -- write books that only appeal to the intelligent and get a free ride on your reader's backs.
asciilifeform: but the observation stands.
asciilifeform: a few of them were , sadly, by herbert
mircea_popescu: i think the later author (iirc the sequels weren't written by the original, but some son or inheritor at any rate) suffered very much from the equalizing stupidity (ie, unaware of differences, thinking self equivalent to anyone) who then imagined "what people want" is "to have blanks filled in" and produced very much http://trilema.com/2017/and-dont-go-around-upgrading-the-testaments-either/#selection-67.187-67.188
mircea_popescu: it's plain to notice, too, all the fanfic porn on literotica or whatever always has these stat cards, "she was so and so and tits like that and the other".
mircea_popescu: but you're very much correct, and yes, the #1 skill of mp-writer is exactly "do not specify".
mircea_popescu: indeed. and much of the result is that it creates different notions in different people.
asciilifeform: as soon as he started shitting out sequels where the details filled in -- permanent ruin.
asciilifeform: herbert does not say ~how~ they got trained.
mircea_popescu: right. which is why in my mind it's represented as a sort of you know, moon. "you can't reboot the machine without knowing what it's doing"
asciilifeform: in the b00k, it was described that they were selected & trained, and somewhat rare ( i.e. if yours got killed, it was an expensive problem , to replace )
asciilifeform: ( a more refined variant of the real-life 19th c profession of 'calculator' )
mircea_popescu: yes, but in a mystical rather than artisanal sense
mircea_popescu: i was busy with girls by then.
asciilifeform: they were rubbish
mircea_popescu: i did not read the sequels.
mircea_popescu: yes, i did read the original coupla books, as a 15yo boy.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 13:24 phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704886 << my understanding of " a mentat from dune" was "a guy who takes a lot of showers", rather than what i discovered later was the general us view on the matter, "guy who does lots of xword puzzles". i have nfi where that typically 80s idea "xword puzzles make you smart" came from.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 12:57 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704883 << i had nfi the *humanist crowd was large enough to have factions.
BingoBoingo: Even then, negative turning radius
BingoBoingo: The electrics tend to not be roadable at all. 4 points base instead of 3, etc
mircea_popescu: had to have the lift raised or else would have suspended itself
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, cheap used forklifts are like anything else. There's collector's markets, enthusiast clubs, and modding hobbyists. Though mebbe you'd picked up a cheap one.
kanzure: BingoBoingo: i unloaded the FIB from a trailer, if that's what you mean.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:39 kanzure: you could safely argue it would look like a plot of the sha256 function against a graph, but i would also be surprised to hear that
BingoBoingo: trinque: How is the ongoing weather? Perhaps submit a piece on that if reallity differs from what is on tv?
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> it's literally the answer i was given << I can't find this re-reading log at all
asciilifeform: lol, and witness the 'montrezors' in linked thread
asciilifeform: out of curiousity, kanzure , in what do you read, other than english ?
asciilifeform: if you substitute a chip that shits out prng stream, in place of the transform specified in http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fg-genesis.vpatch -- it will be immediately obvious to anyone who follows my audit recipe.
kanzure: notably annoying when setting the bitstream up
kanzure: are you willing to accept sufficiently shit fpgas? you can do something like massive buffering of the bitstream and then do analysis to check for known circuits in a lookup table :\.
asciilifeform: so that instead of the specified circuit, it instead does something different. and such that i and the buyers, do not immediately find out .
asciilifeform: kanzure: believe or not, i keep up with the literature. tell me how to boobytrap fpga.
asciilifeform: ( which expects, e.g., a TB output, known only to the auditor )
asciilifeform: takes 2 arbitrary waveforms, on the 2 input jacks, has nfi whether they come from the analogue boards that ship with the unit, or from audit machine.
kanzure: i forget what the response was to the response though... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=14848708327718832242&as_sdt=5,44&sciodt=0,44&hl=en
asciilifeform: consider, kanzure , let's say you're fuhrer of ftmeade. which transistor in the 9572 will you diddle, to undetectably sabotage FUCKGOATS.
asciilifeform: trinque: humour the man. maybe he learns something. ( maybe even -- we learn something )
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:36 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
kanzure: anyway what was the goal, i thought it was established that circuit was insufficient, given doping layer trojans (yes there was a follow-up article but it was dumb)
kanzure: like errors when reading the nth dram cell matter