a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 19:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the death of the 'fat consumer' system is not optional, it's an exponential/runaway growth hallucinatory nonsense. the lizard deindustrialization program is in re the ~controlled demolition~ of same.
ben_vulpes: moreover, as if cleaner diesel's going to do anything about the haze in cn, etc etc.
ben_vulpes: also the ahistoricity of "omfg stop burning things, slow the warming". dog, the damage was done when the first nuggets of coal came out and went up.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'we are the greatest people, we are the greatest nation, Nothing Like Us Ever Was, our every whim is a Global Consensus, and stfu terrorist'
ben_vulpes: also gimme a break, the root cause here is the chain reaction of burning all of the stored hydrocarbons, and it ain't going to stop until all of the fuel is gone.
trinque been saying this to the "UNPRECEDENTED FLOODING" derps every chance he gets.
ben_vulpes: as if the blip of geological time sapiens observed is representative, and not a transient of a transient
ben_vulpes: hubris of ameliorating "global warming" is pretty cute, right up there with terraforming mars.
trinque: kanzure: fucking hell, a star shade. the narcissism out of folks like you will flow over any wall but extinction, wont it.
kanzure: it's on ye olde todo list and your request will be answered in the order in which it was received
asciilifeform: 11:06 < emeraldgreen> kanzure what's the proposal? genetically engineered algae, or geoengineering with special spray ?
asciilifeform: turns out , there is only so much... academitardism, ustardism, bitcoinscalingism, regulationsmatterreallytheydoism, etc that asciilifeform can swallow before barfing.
asciilifeform: also ate a month+ of heathenlogz but eventually maxed dosimeter.
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 12:46 < kanzure> essentially we are the first fully-regulated bitcoin options exchange + clearinghouse
asciilifeform: 13:08 < kanzure> she wants to control the access in her own way
asciilifeform: 13:01 < kanzure> i mean not for the scihub content
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 7-27:
asciilifeform: for folx without theorems to do, there will always be found someone who will 'sell relevancy'
mircea_popescu: in case anyone wondered "How do famous athletes and child actors end up peniless", this'd be how. like those two retarded twins, what was their name, the mcgregors. "oh we're gonna buy relevancy" "yeah, totally, that's something that works"
shinohai: Blockchain Capital is one of the "investors" that pre-purchased tokens ( a brainfart of Brock Pierce)
mircea_popescu: funny how these shits are OMFG HUGE IMPORTANT RA RA RA until some bagholder actually buys them, at which point they entirely disappear overnight.
mircea_popescu: totally. what the fuck is kik anyway, the irrelevant nonservice that facebook didn't buy for a trillion ?
mircea_popescu: " With millions of users, Kik said it hopes to drive mainstream consumer adoption of Kin, potentially making it the most widely used cryptocurrency."
mircea_popescu: "o man, the guys in finance figured out a way to get paid for selling shares without selling any" "whoa" "Technologee man. it can do anything" "can it make you shut up ?"
mircea_popescu: wtf does buying "their" version of the usg coin get me ? "uhhh... same as the republic's" bitch... you can't be the same as the republic. you suck ; the republioc doesn't.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706296 << i suspect for all these mayweather friends of crypto it's a case of "free money on the table!".
mircea_popescu: i'm at the edge of my chair with bated breath awaiting the imperial notion of the list.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 13:34 spyked: ^ actually, anecdote. friend of a friend ordered cheap NICs for some business. returned them immediately when he saw they were sending weird data to selected IP addresses. the whole lot.
spyked: ^ actually, anecdote. friend of a friend ordered cheap NICs for some business. returned them immediately when he saw they were sending weird data to selected IP addresses. the whole lot.
asciilifeform: they simply.
asciilifeform: nobody 'calls home', wtf, when you have every isp on the planet realtime bugged, every wire that leaves a house is 'home'.
asciilifeform: spyked: 'call home' is not the smart model. 'stuff random chunks of physical memory, encrypted to nsakey, into margins of outgoing packets' is a smart model
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 06:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701493 << he has a point, incidentally. the notion of ~approximating~ numeric machine is about as batshit insane as the notion of concave airplane or open-ended circulatory system.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 05:59 mircea_popescu: kanzure http://ledgerx.com/is-btc-real << this is uniquely stupid. for one thing, the "conceptualization" of bitcoin as a "real number" is below sophomoric. there is no such thing as a "btc", properly speaking ; it's satoshis all the way down, and they are integers.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706243 << could be ordinary stupidity, could be -- wrecking. i can easily picture the derps campaigning for 'let's have btc amts as rationals!' so that eventually a tx weighs 100MB ( in which to represent the ever-cancerously growing ratio )
a111: Logged on 2016-01-26 17:20 ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what - to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 08:53 spyked: in other innovative and artificially Intel-ligent news: http://archive.is/Mo85Z when did Hillis/Sussman/Feynman play with the connection machine? ah, late '80s!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 08:36 spyked: to wit: 1. dorks plant pervasive spyhole in commodity hardware, "to catch terrorists" I suppose; 2. at some point someone figures out everyone can use it, not only "agencies"; 3. at some point (much later!) dorks figure out they can be used to spy on "agencies" too; 4. dorks finally add secret method to disable spyhole.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706252 << if you're actually convinced that 1) the published method fully and permanently disables the thing 2) it was the one and only fritzchip core in intelturd --- i got bridge to sellya.
shinohai: Makes me rather forlorn that ex gf threw out my spi tool thinking it was a broken usb drive xD
spyked: in other innovative and artificially Intel-ligent news: http://archive.is/Mo85Z when did Hillis/Sussman/Feynman play with the connection machine? ah, late '80s!
mircea_popescu: We're Boring And Stupid doesn't quite have the same sound to it
spyked: hi mircea_popescu; lol yeah. also, other lulz: "There are three such cores in the new PCH: Management Engine (ME), Integrated Sensors Hub (ISH), and Innovation Engine (IE)." innovation engine!
spyked: to wit: 1. dorks plant pervasive spyhole in commodity hardware, "to catch terrorists" I suppose; 2. at some point someone figures out everyone can use it, not only "agencies"; 3. at some point (much later!) dorks figure out they can be used to spy on "agencies" too; 4. dorks finally add secret method to disable spyhole.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as if i fucking need to squeeze 120% out of a party. why ? if i like it that much ima just do it again nextweek, for +100%. << Gotta address the biohackers and their "Drugs are bad, let's edit the meat" crowd.
mircea_popescu: there's a limited ammount of different transactions that can be indexed, and that limit is not 2.1e12.
mircea_popescu: moreover, no, most emphatically NO there could not be subdivisions below the satoshi. in fact, not even fractions as small as the 100s of satoshis can be practically used.
mircea_popescu: kanzure http://ledgerx.com/is-btc-real << this is uniquely stupid. for one thing, the "conceptualization" of bitcoin as a "real number" is below sophomoric. there is no such thing as a "btc", properly speaking ; it's satoshis all the way down, and they are integers.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 03:22 kanzure: my definition of a viable nootropic is one that helps enough to make a better nootropic. so basically they are all garbage.
asciilifeform: pumping is the classical recipe for 'add N lasers'
asciilifeform: when no other choice.
asciilifeform: point being, they don't align phasewise: so N W-watt diode != N*W watt tube.
asciilifeform: ( laser is possibly the least efficient known electrical light source , watt per watt in vs out )
asciilifeform: that won't make the waves align
mircea_popescu: cascade them ?
asciilifeform: they are aggregates
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'kilowatt diode' ( and even 30W chinese item from last year's thread) are from a certain pov shams :
asciilifeform: the alignment.
asciilifeform: but the optics
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the 20k+usd pro variant, is exactly how.
mircea_popescu: yes, but unseal the tube and use a large amt of gas.
asciilifeform: 100w is the tabletop item most folx have. sealed tube.
mircea_popescu: ok then. so wtf is this "100w laser". measure it in liters instead.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 04:06 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706038 << above 2-3kW they recirculate the lasing gas per se. prolly unbeatable re cooling .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706124 << which is the better q here. why not commodify the gas, have really large gas pools for excitation.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 03:22 kanzure: my definition of a viable nootropic is one that helps enough to make a better nootropic. so basically they are all garbage.
asciilifeform: depends on the drinker. iirc the particular locus even was found. i may even have read in kanzure's links some time last decade.
asciilifeform: there is nothing magical re tolerances. it's a physical condition, just as potentially removable as any other.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706116 << theoretically, a reverser of caffeine tolerance would be all the cocaine anybody could want..
mircea_popescu: bad for you, esp in quantities ; can have some chocolate now and again ; ruins the taste of coffee or tea.
mircea_popescu: again, this is the theoretical view of movie cocaine. it dun work in this manner in practice.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706104 << this view of cocaine is specific of the non-user. i never saw or heard of cocaine allowing more living per.
mircea_popescu: there is something. a bad model earlier on.
mircea_popescu: therte's that ancient adage, "nothing's worse for a start-up than a bad money source early on".
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 15:50 asciilifeform: lottery winners have not merely 0 to teach, but 'learning' from them tends to make folx dumber.
BingoBoingo: So, now there's a blockchain startup spelled "bluezelle" and pronounced "Bezzel"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 04:09 kanzure: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/542371/a-tale-of-do-it-yourself-gene-therapy/
mircea_popescu: the airbnb fucktards made cereal boxes, everyone wanted to make cereal boxes.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 02:51 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705053 << btw, cheap and obvious error correction : do once then rotate 90 degrees do again. then reconcile. is this used irl ?
mircea_popescu: everyone's forever enamoured with the scammer-of-the-day. back in groupon times everyone was liek "groupon !!!"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 03:18 kanzure: have you guys laughed at the bioviva stuff yet?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706038 << above 2-3kW they recirculate the lasing gas per se. prolly unbeatable re cooling .
kanzure: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bodybuilding/The%20effects%20of%20supraphysiologic%20doses%20of%20testosterone%20on%20muscle%20size%20and%20strength%20in%20normal%20men.pdf
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta exercise off the rage?
BingoBoingo: Conservation follows from there
kanzure: my definition of a viable nootropic is one that helps enough to make a better nootropic. so basically they are all garbage.
BingoBoingo: Similarly what does modafinil and other non-amphetamine nootropics have going for them?
kanzure: have you guys laughed at the bioviva stuff yet?
BingoBoingo: Still, if gene therapy is going to be a thing it has to start beating incumbents.
BingoBoingo: kanzure: So what really is the selling point of hplus if it can't beat Trenbolone?
kanzure: a lot of the roid rage fearmongering is just general anti-anger wishful thinking
kanzure: that's a rather fast timeline
BingoBoingo: kanzure: So what's the quick spiel on how to use the other channel to turn into an augmented superman. Preferably by next week.
kanzure: then i'll claim crappy peers
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705091 << pretty much everyone here is fluent in multiple languages. and, just like not being monetarily poor, not being linguistically poor is an imperative for the civilised man. so no, it's not acceptable to not speak languages anymore than it's acceptable to eat frozen dinners.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705053 << btw, cheap and obvious error correction : do once then rotate 90 degrees do again. then reconcile. is this used irl ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 16:23 asciilifeform: kanzure: mp insists that he 'has no goals', but i've got a few. one of them, is a 100% nato-free workstation comp.
mircea_popescu: at least once the butthurt over having wasted a decade washes away.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 16:26 trinque: "goal" is being used as a placeholder for the macro-expanded version which lines up the causes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705038 <<< well obviously, that's the fucking point... i manage more of what people usualoly call results through NOT having goals than they ever do through having them.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 16:02 kanzure: it's literally the answer i was given
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:58 asciilifeform: if -- as i understand -- you're a money man, kanzure , what the hell are you still doing in the heart of the shitreich ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704969 << this is actually an interesting q. why are you in there kanzure ? the unexamined impression that "talent" or somesuch ?
trinque: incidentally it occurred to me today that the accent in austin is shifting due to the years-long cali colonization
mircea_popescu: dude trying to figure out ; being male the strategy doth involve a little twisting of items around. no big deal, the items can take it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:57 asciilifeform: how about find the reason, kanzure . sell some diodes. sell something useful. elsewise it looks very strange, you come here for no apparent reason than to insult, 'y'all idjits, noise, yer products, all fake, mp is powerless dolt just like me and my shilliconvalley catamites' etc
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:56 kanzure: ugh i hope not. that would be the stupidest reason.
asciilifeform: from the groups link ( 2016!! ) : 'OK, so will you help me promote it with twitter, instagram, snap chat videos when the time comes?'
mircea_popescu: kanzure "to gild the lilly", to attempt an expensive artisanal process to improve an item which is naturally unsurpassable.
kanzure: gild the whatnow?
asciilifeform: why gild the lily?
asciilifeform: why is 'micropython' needed in the micro
asciilifeform: and why is the design for item that simply charges a cap to known coloumb charge, and zaps a millilitre tube, moar voluminous than, e.g., that of FUCKGOATS..
mircea_popescu: i thought the alt-tmsr you're trying to build was being discussed rather than your typing speed.
kanzure: words per minute. it's funny because i'm the fastest.
mircea_popescu: no ; but so far the story here seems to be that the crowning achievement of a decade's effort is one item that happened a coupla weeks ago and you don't care about.
kanzure: hmm where did the link go
kanzure: re: the electroporator, it's a purchasable kit somewhere
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 04:04 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, romania building world's largest laser, 10 PW
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:51 kanzure: i thin there are >1 kw laser diodes
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 15:27 kanzure: asciilifeform: what projects would you like to see specifically? didn't like the electroporator?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704926 << i was actually wondering about that. how exactly does it exist ? like, could i buy one ? is the bar of ontology here "i have a description of how it could be made" ? or "i have one in my kitchen and there's the lsit of how i made it" ? or "you can have one made for 20 bux, send here" ? or what ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 03:28 mircea_popescu: be it in school, on reddit, whatever. as a result, have deeply nfi about relatively fundamental, basic stuff, and WAY too much familiarity with relatively irrelevant fringe extensions of minor alt-theories in obscure fields.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:26 asciilifeform: 19:41 <@fenn> the patent was the excuse everyone used for not sharing their homegrown plasmids
mircea_popescu: aand there we go, ate a day of h++ logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, small sub is problematic. there's this optimal size and domain limits for mechanical items. there's a smallest combustion engine, there's a smallest sub and so on.
kanzure: peter madsen originally started copenhagen suborbitals, an amateur rocketry group; he is notorious for building and operating a submarine in denmark, and within the past ~week for also murdering someone on his submarine (allegedly).
kanzure: (the recent peter madsen stuff has been weird)
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> guh. so i've been thinking about building a boat so i can just put all my stuff in the boat and live in the boat and sail wherever i want to go << check that out asciilifeform ! he may wanna go halvsies on orlol's tub ?
mircea_popescu: to quote that old guy in casino, "it goes against the whole principle of the whole thing".
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, <@fenn> nobody ever got rich by not asking for money << i don't recall my ever asking anyone.
mircea_popescu: with any luck asciilifeform will print them out. he does that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the bot auto archives all links put in channel.
mircea_popescu: kanzure in the log dir.
mircea_popescu: (for the actuarially inclined : #trilema Apr 25 11:09:37 2012 - Sep 10 11:09:37 2016 averages 12.80 wpl ; henceforth 16.40 wpl.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:21 phf is mildly curious is mp is doing his "once i found a thing, i read the whole archive" thing on 5gb or whatever it is of their log..
mircea_popescu: which ius why your logs are full of "one sentence in five lines, three words to the line" myspacetardations ; whereas not here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a very large portion of why the forum has such large snr is the reference system. it is not only the first level advantage, of reference. it has massive second order effects, such as it gets people to organzie their thoughts for it.
kanzure: more embarrassingly, the data used to be public
kanzure: i haven't. just the graphs (that was one-off).
kanzure: each conversation is documented with lots of tags and other data
BingoBoingo: trinque: What is this bayou system, explain in a Qntra submission on how fake the fake news coverage of this rain drop pidder padder is.
BingoBoingo: trinque: "Reparations Ops" are that thing the ubran folk do in Baltimore and the cops did
trinque: houston meanwhile's fine; for all the "ohmygurd unprecedented" in the pantsuit media, the bayou system worked *flawlessly*
BingoBoingo: Trinque isn't washing away for the same reason I didn't wash away this spring or winter of 2015. White priviledge.
BingoBoingo: IRL the rain girl's name is monique. She don't really care about her BF and half her baby dadies are in Louisiana's Angola penitentiary.
mircea_popescu: this would be a good story you know, "the rain girl". take a super hot chick and cast her in a film about how wherever she goes it floods. badly.
trinque: I've got some decent pictures of the flooding
BingoBoingo: trinque: How's the weather? I heard the Army Corps of engineers dumped reservoir water into your flood waters
BingoBoingo: Remember, the problem of Niggeropolis is that those bringing stones to the soup could ever imagine they are a polis https://archive.is/UXsO6
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/diy-biology-latest-fad-sweeping-the-republic/ << Qntra - DIY Biology Latest Fad Sweeping The Republic
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> why is there no "hardware liberation front" that hacks peoples computers for driver documentation? << 2014.
mircea_popescu: did you wire your broken k to the h ?
mircea_popescu: in other words : there's no safe assumptions in biology provided by biology, but only by physics. because selection will actually cover anything.
mircea_popescu: these are mostly faeces dwellers, have to shoot spores out of the way so animals still eat them.
kanzure: there was a recent paper on ballistic weapons in microbes
mircea_popescu: well now there is.
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> what's the fastest microcritter and how fast would the travel have to be to keep up (including opencv delays)? << some spore shooting organisms do crazy shit like 20m/s speeds reached within a fraction of a second / the first milimeter of travel.
mircea_popescu: in other news, #homecmos still exists.
mircea_popescu: ah i guess there's that.
mircea_popescu: what's he doing these days ? wants to be part of macivory cutup efforts ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, just assign it to a girl. "learn to chainsaw, report on the experience"
mircea_popescu: if selfmade then yes
mircea_popescu: from the "recycled wood"
BingoBoingo: Ah fine, I'll start keeping the sawdust/bar oil slurry
BingoBoingo: Vintage newspaper, who's buying the new ones
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and randomly : if you like to barbecue (good for you) do me a favour and buy yourself a bottle of 98% alcohol to use instead of whatever petrochem crap you use for a starter, either that horrid plastic brick thing or else cancerliquid. tyvm. << Aluminum "chimney" and newspaper ftw
phf: i was half expecting to find an ivory there ^
mircea_popescu: phf it's the bologna system that fucked it. angela tard about as relevant as the captain of the titanic.
mircea_popescu: and randomly : if you like to barbecue (good for you) do me a favour and buy yourself a bottle of 98% alcohol to use instead of whatever petrochem crap you use for a starter, either that horrid plastic brick thing or else cancerliquid. tyvm.
mircea_popescu: this is the important point here, be a fucking capitalist already, let time work for you. drop this nonsensical "oh, we can waste resources, inflation wiull make up for it anyway" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: let them have a microscope that produces something each day.
asciilifeform: the puzzler is how to produce it again.
asciilifeform: can 'produce' almost anything by... being at the right surplus auction.
mircea_popescu: not a matter of reproduce. a matter of produce in the first place!
asciilifeform: will remark, that microscopes ain't made of meat, either
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 10:05 mircea_popescu: (nemtsov, recently assassinated, was, of course, the guy putin beat for to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687959, yeltsin's chosen successor. ah what a great party it'd have been, for teh pantsuits. clinton forever, herdemocracy herp derp... then gore lost to bush, nemtsov lost to putin, nyc lost to gravity, sads sads sads.)
mircea_popescu: certainly. but no, sometyhing, anything. "in the past nine years while the republic choked the remnants of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696459 we at the soviet biolabs have a) deployed ten thousand chips in the back yard resulting in three different bactins ; and have this microscope that spit out 10k gifs.
asciilifeform: in re 'amateur bio', in 1990s asciilifeform's brother worked with a d00d who spent his entire pay on surplus dna synths, various iron, liked to remark 'real programmers program lifeforms'. sum of this -- afaik -- was 0.
asciilifeform: aite. ( there's a still-appreciable population of folx who actually go in for 'wet computer' nonsense. )
mircea_popescu: so far the danger doesn't seem too great though.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'd be absolutely exstatic if the wetware computing progressed along while we're busy with the hardware ones.
asciilifeform: 8-7 : 05:59 < fenn> i'm still unsure whether diybio is real
mircea_popescu: my oldest emails are from the 90s, and were left behind with the 386 pine-running system that housed them. probably of interest, but not really to me.
phf: (and in completely unrelated to anything lulz, i just discovered that the very first email in my email archive, june 2006 is an allegro lisp trial license)
mircea_popescu: 1`319`523 words in comments there.
mircea_popescu just counted, trilema (articles only) stands at 10`631`726 words. this excludes my comments there and of course whatever my share of the log's 2mn lines (ie about what, a further 20-30mn words ?) is.
phf: the wisdom of this joke is lost on me. though past few days the joke that's on my mind the most is, the one about shtirlitz: borman i shtirlitz pyut vmeste. borman govorit, "shtirlitz, a ved vi yevrey!" "Net!" govorit shtirlitz "Ya russkii!!!"
asciilifeform: kanzure: but you did not condemn the idiocy, in linked text. so i gotta wonder.
asciilifeform: kanzure: we had the thread here.
phf: my cousin asked me if i'm "into the whole bitcoin" thing, and mentioned that they now sell houses and stuff using btc. i said i heard about it..
kanzure: it's reason to shut them up
mircea_popescu: anyway. people are way the fuck worse at science than they are at politics ; and women ESPECIALLY so. but the general population sucking is not a reason to ignore the field.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i saw something similar re "philosophy". so let's ask again, you know, "Why is the FBI not focused on the soup"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's no automatic fuck yous. << Penis in butt?
phf: mircea_popescu: i actually think we had a thread. activity is either happening, and thus further cultivated (i.e. doers encouraged, talkers are shed, whatever the method), or else there's nothing happening at all. in a sense that you can't draw your pistol faster than your draw speed, so there's nothing really to worry about. i ~suspect~ that there's just no effective culling happening
mircea_popescu: there's no automatic fuck yous.
mircea_popescu: anmyway, on the strength of what you presented you got a few k's worth of go away money there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usgistic 'memberships' ( and this case was no exception ) routinely contain a 'we can do WHATEVER the fuck we feel like, incl. throw you out by the ears' clause.
BingoBoingo got a speeding ticket earlier this month. In ~two weeks there is a hearing on motions and discovery
mircea_popescu: sue them ?
asciilifeform: then bought scamola 'life membership' , which retro-revoked ~all useful features recently
asciilifeform: got tired of feeding the scambeast.
asciilifeform: lately asciilifeform cannot even use the library catalogue. copyrights, you see. 'students only'
asciilifeform: asciilifeform lives next to a large reservation for these creatures. lab that makes usg-approved, 'law-abiding' drones; ic fab which makes safely-useless rubbish; electron microscope where asciilifeform is not invited within cannon's breadth, even for money; etc
mircea_popescu: you know they're not going to do anything worth the mention as part of the definition.
mircea_popescu: "Why is the FBI focused on the amateur side, and such a higher risk or higher threat from people coming out of the more traditional sciences?" << because people coming from "traditional" are already neutered.
asciilifeform: and what the result was ?
asciilifeform: hey hey mircea_popescu , do you remember back when fbi/nsa 'engaged with' the 'cryptographer komyoonity' ?
asciilifeform: e're engaged with the FBI, proportionally as the FBI engages in the amateur community. '
asciilifeform: the beginning, we wish to continue the conversation and use this as an exchange of information, so I would say that amateur biology on the stage from the FBI's perspective should not be perceived as us taking the community seriously from a threat or security perspective, these are the whitehats in this room. It's our goal that we operate safely and securely to identify those blackhats if they are out there. .... we're from DNA 2.0. W
asciilifeform: 'FBI question, not biocurious... there's 30k or 40k people getting PhDs in biology, and 100s of people in amateur biology. Why is the FBI focused on the amateur side, and such a higher risk or higher threat from people coming out of the more traditional sciences? Nathan: Well, we're not a one trick pony. We have a lot of assets dedicated to academic biosecurity outreach. We have established such a great relationship with DIYbio from
mircea_popescu: (likbez : the result of microscopy is a set, of levels, that are not numbers in the proper sense. consequently you wish to see a list of them, but can not do implicit color conversions such as blue+yellow = green, because color #45 the microscope saw has nothing to do with #65 or #72)
mircea_popescu: this way you actually have a de facto lossless, and rather useful, microscopy remote format.
mircea_popescu: you don't want the "color levels" nonsense of bitmap/jpeg family. you want the gif palette, and a clearly explicit mapping to the electron microscope output.
mircea_popescu: kanzure the overhead of movement is 90% + of the cost you incur ; and 1% or less of the point of interest. microscopy is supposed to be gifs. and correctly colorized so as to allow me to get back the electron microscope original.
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> also it's because i feel ashamed for not having thousands of hours of microscopy video already << i hope shame intensifies. but in any case : why the fuck wouldf you make it video.
asciilifeform: 'GMO is not allowed unelss you have a certified lab. The chief of the fire department institute, it's called CDDBTK (what?), but we have a positive dialog about when to file they will give us permission apparently to do GMO work. '
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> aaactually deathray is one of the few items that stayed quite the same since 1890. << Nah, now they jacket the mass of lead atoms with a different metal
asciilifeform: phf: can't permit a doingnothers-gap!11
phf: why i'd be the next genghis khan in my mind by now
kanzure: death rays ain't what they used to be
mircea_popescu: and the eye glasses and you know.
asciilifeform: 'oh and can i borrow the deathray too!'