mircea_popescu: dude the official romanian statistics are worthless.
mircea_popescu: well now ima have to look at the demographic geography of it.
mircea_popescu: the russian school of medicine is in moscow, see, not in kiev.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu Bucharest is also some 6 times if not more the size of next town in ro, isn't it? not sure if that says much though in itself
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. there may never be, actually, seeing how the vast majority of those who stumble in are dumb in the classical sense, ie, mute.
mircea_popescu: but the similarity is there : we don't yet get that many rss links to need to build a more complicated pipe ; just as we don't yet get that many new speakers so as to need to build a skirt there either.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 15:55 mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter however is that to a large degree fain was powered by the original web delusion, "oh, lowering barriers to human creativity is what economy is all about". it's not. there's no such thing as "human creativity" in the sense of the general mass, and the barriers are there to keep us from the female wail.
mircea_popescu: i expect there's going to be a lively THAT before there's any need of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729223
mircea_popescu: romans used the more adequate neckchain. sorta-worked.
mircea_popescu: pay, as numerously discussed in teh forum, ain't the pill.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform’s father went, for a spell
mircea_popescu: heck, getting the precious cuntlets to move to kazakstan was a major problem for everyone, stalin, khruschev, etc.
asciilifeform: but yes my understanding is that moscow is where western wreckerz dispense the bags of moolah; ergo growth ‘with yeast’. possibly phf can add detail.
mircea_popescu: us had a similar dynamic, with the unwashed irish tards landing in ny to be shipped to fight against the south while the precious cuntlets were kept under wraps in boston.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-23 17:41 mircea_popescu: AND throughout the egypt that i've seen, they to this day have clay pots with water in the shade every quarter mile or so on the road. notwithstanding that yes you can buy bottled water and did i share that pic of the desert dhl ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason you suspect "europe will grow back" is strictly because every 20 miles a church steeple. exactly like egypt's http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-23#1727932 but for richer people.
mircea_popescu: this "collapse into the capital" is major bad news.
mircea_popescu: argentina is like 2x the size of all europe. its internal development is comparable to the island of corfu.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of ending up with a humongous buenos aires full of lazy parasites expecting to live off govt handouts and an entirely undevelopped interior of humonmgous size.
mircea_popescu: basically, very strong signs of argentinization in the ex-soviet lands.
mircea_popescu: is this by the old definition, seculum "until everyone present dies off" ?
asciilifeform: ‘Legend has it that every civilization is given a certain number of saecula by the gods. The Romans lasted for 24 saecula, the Ancient Egyptians held on for 30.’
mircea_popescu: also the ~best piece i ever read on russian post-soviet collapse : https://sashat.me/2017/05/28/will-moscow-ever-stop-growing/
asciilifeform: ‘when you go by the via aurelia, ad thousands have traveled before, remember the luck of the soldier, who never saw rome any more...’
mircea_popescu: whereas the via aurelia and its derivations to this day the basis of "european union".
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:45 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : so us rail gauge is 1435 mm. why ? because the first us rail was built by english immigrants, who kept to the english style. but why was the english style 1435 mm ? because rail started as (horse drawn) trams, and that was the gauge they used. but why ? because when they made trams they just used the old horse carriage gauge, by reusing the same tools. but why did carriages use 1435 mm gauge ? because if they
mircea_popescu: quite instructive, too. as per that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-10#1723583 observation, the absence of a connection between v. carpata and v. domitiana at either romula/tomis or apulum/istrus has a lot to do with there being such a thing as "moldavia"
mircea_popescu: on cursory examination the item is actually well researched and correct.
mircea_popescu: (dude has various digested-obscura, like say https://sashat.me/2017/06/03/roman-roads/ ; arguably the pinnacle cultural product of the web era)
mircea_popescu: in other similarily meaningless lulz, http://sashat.me/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/loopol-01.png
mircea_popescu: i suppose for the same money i shall pretend russia is == gorky.
asciilifeform: phunphakt, asciilifeform's relatives dun believe the tale 'though it be told unto them', they have ro burned into rom as bucharest circa 1980 or so
asciilifeform is gonna have to buy another trunk, to carry the sov-era kidz bookz in ro, ceaucescu hat, misc. lulzolade, home
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform : there's a 50% chance native speaker fails to note that refrain. ITS FUCKING HARD.
mircea_popescu: all they ever make is betas.
mircea_popescu: IT IS SUPPOSED TO GET THE JOKE
mircea_popescu: well, not THE very place, but cluj had its own, "oser".
mircea_popescu: alex__c i expect he just ran into the badea cirtan ad hoc extension.
alex__c: unsure if you're talking about Aurora/Flavia or some other flea market
mircea_popescu: before "vintage" was a thing i used to buy girlies gifts from teh very place. there's something heartwarming about 90yo woman yielding whatever old clock to 16yo hussy for a pataca.
asciilifeform: i immediately thought of the rhyme
asciilifeform: them too ! in overalls !
asciilifeform: this place apparently is judenrein so gypsy folx had to pick up the slack.
mircea_popescu: it's this fascinating "market of the world". great item to have nearby.
asciilifeform: but here is was hilarious how obviously filched some of the items were -- wireless 'house' phones with only handset, no base, faceplates of car stereos, etc
mircea_popescu: yeah, actually, the flea market was a major component of ghetto jew identity.
asciilifeform: next to the vegetable market
asciilifeform also found the 'black market' today, where gypsies sell questionable shit, lotsa lulzy pics
mircea_popescu: poland about twice the size. at least ideally.
asciilifeform: small countries either get larger or do good bit of 'letting' neh
mircea_popescu: anyway. they also "let" russian army division occupy same. romania's very letty.
asciilifeform: lol the time to kick ustards was prolly before the time of letting usg army division occupy the sea shore, eh
mircea_popescu: the entirety of the objection is that rogozin was nongrata in washington not in bucharest.
asciilifeform: it isn't as if they'd kicked out some independent d00d
mircea_popescu: how about they kick out a few ustards ?
mircea_popescu: afaik the only one to ever get hassled by that was rogozin.
asciilifeform: if this fruit ain't it, then who is.
asciilifeform: i was reading the citizenship rtfm talmud and it said clearly, 'threats to national serenity can be kicked out' or what was it
asciilifeform: holy fuq why haven't they thrown this d00d out !
asciilifeform: 'The guy can get his day in court if it wasn’t he who did this but I’m damned glad to see the Romanian general public take her side in this and not just laugh it off.' << waaat
asciilifeform: it's believable in the newton's laws sense .
asciilifeform: and is the common thread of civilized life everywhere
mircea_popescu: and in general -- the less protected the poor, the more useful and pleasant the poor. and vice-versa. the worst thing you can do for a place is "prosecute assault" on the non-elite.
mircea_popescu: the FACT that poor people are not protected from assault by the state means that poor people are pleasant and polite.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have only foggy notion of the reason, beyond 'no welfaristan, so no niggers'
asciilifeform: also for BingoBoingo , ben_vulpes , other usaschwitz inmated, i will point out that the experience cost me about $2 .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, here's where pantsuit idiots a la "sam the more romanian than you" get it wrong. the REASON!!! there's nobody annoying, harassing, robbing etc is... guess ?
mircea_popescu: yes. the place you describe, btw, is prolly "bad curtain" mentioned afore.
asciilifeform: or the fact that the air smelled like pines and not like exhaust, or shit, or mcfood ?
asciilifeform: this notional decay, from asciilifeform's unarmed eye it is 100% notional, i went to a motherfucking tiled market thing today, bought cheese that was actually cheese, old women shoved delish samples, all in all maybe 400 grams, in my face, and put it on bread from next stall that was actually bread, and ate it by the canal side, and sat next to randos on bench, and nobody harrassed, robbed, or even
mircea_popescu: where the only incentive is to be an idiot, aged 16 to maybe 19, as you won't live to 30 anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg took opposite tack : instead of allying with underworld elite to keep underworld wanna-bes harmelss, it allied with underworld wannabes to "remove corruption" bla bla. as a result they got the orc cycle, as well explained by lafond and many others.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i do beleive that;'s the only way to run things. heck, romania has NO JAIL for vehicular manslaughter to this fucking day, iirc.
asciilifeform: this is not visible to naked eye here. i do have 14 hrs of bucharest planned so maybe will see it there.
mircea_popescu: now, this worked fine in the 90s, when the statal motherly "please don't do it" was backed by my "motherfucker if i see you again ima use you for fish bait".
mircea_popescu: the thing with romania is that essentially there isn't a penalty for anything. just please don't fucking do it.
mircea_popescu: eh, kids. what do they know.
asciilifeform: they dun believe in normal pistol or wat
mircea_popescu: in other lulz from alf's latest love, http://spynews.ro/actualitate/foto-alerta-in-timisoara-un-barbat-arestat-a-fost-ajutat-de-trecatori-sa-fuga-147038.html
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:10 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, what would be the link? my obs is that it's more whether drink is something that goes with meal and at any time or just something "special" aka binge idiocy
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 15:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729201 << oh god almighty, if they only started arresting romanians for bad parking. this is like arresting indians for poor hygiene, or native americans for drunkedness.
mircea_popescu: myeah. anyway, so that's a round statement of the story, in that it's not missing anything but details.
mircea_popescu: problem is what you want and what you need are rarely the same.
asciilifeform: hitler is giving the infinite icecream lottery winner, ostensibly exactly what he wanted.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the situation is not stable, in the sense usg can't administer all this immense government with huge industrial interests in everything. which is why even china is giving it a run for its money.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, the process is wildly successful -- the whole "oh noes, corporate responsibility, banks stole our money" went exactly nowhere FOR THE EXACT REASON the usg "banks" play the role of the soviet planning committee. such can do no ill, by definition of state in socialism, and so... they WILL be rescued, with "money" freshly printed.
mircea_popescu: the process was apparently well received by "the society", which is to say poor people. exactly like in the original nazi and soviet implementations. except while in the first two the elite actually fled, in this last one the elite is playing the inept game of "i wonder if i can make a steelworks so successful hitler actually steals it from me".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729227 << there's a 2010s pc game, where you preside over generic 'iron curtain' apartment block, and get various orders from kgb, e.g. 'root out tenants who read english books', but also had 'apples have been prohibited, storing or eating them is punishable'. i immediately pictured fda.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's still an open thread god damned it. so re "in the hope they'll achieve usg agency status" above : the final socialism, usg's "ourdemocracy" came up with a gamified nationalization process : they naturally confiscate the domain leaders in all domains, under the guise of you know, "pension fund investments" and "consumer protection law enforcement". ie, there's a faux money and a faux legal prong which make sure
asciilifeform: well not a role in tmsr, at any rate. potentially as a sort of kindergarten, or slave pit, where you can see the heads and pick out promising larvae potentially
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 15:53 mircea_popescu: it might be useful for the republic once there's enough publishing thoroughput we have to actually consider limiting access to deedbot rss ; that moment is many years away yet.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729222 << i picture that at that time there will be a meaningful l3+ ecosystem
mircea_popescu: the similar "technology! science!" gamification of the democrat party failed "surprisingly" to everyone in the "technology! science! mit is the foremost institution in the world without running water!" camp, but otherwise doh.
mircea_popescu: ld performers are not your users, and "your" users aren't either performers or yours.
mircea_popescu: and the examples could continue, SV has been trying to move away from "content generation" into "real world performance", with major blow-ups like groupon ("sign up for free meals and if we get a lot of you we'll try and parlay this into a sort of communist walmart"), or with slow-burning shitpiles like uber, airbnb etc. in the end, the same truth controls : you've no user-generated real world performance because the real wor
mircea_popescu: which they imagine is an "advertising model", but it's directly and quite evidently a burning of the couch.
mircea_popescu: eld-of-the-future/#footnote_3_53044 : "oh you used to get large values of GOOD ITEM freely ? well no more. would you like to pay us to get them again ?"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile facebook started as a "put your crap on this alt-myspace and check out the large numeric values printed to GOOD THING". basically, facebook was one of those "webvisitors counters" except in a more skinner-y scheme. recently they dropped the bait and are essentially trying to capitalize on what's known in economy as stickiness, the exact same psychological tendency as discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefi
mircea_popescu: t space", in the hope they'll achieve usg agency status. which went nowhere, but then again there's no such thing as a buried corpse in socialism. it's not just craig wright that's still perambulating ; the original founder of webvan is still about. his business idea ? WEB POWERED DELIVERY OF GROCERIES! yes, 20 years later. no such thing as a burian in socialism.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan
mircea_popescu: there's this ancient http://trilema.com/2011/cred-ca-pe-alocuri-se-exagereaza/#selection-67.167-67.603 making roughly the same point : "there's no such thing as user generated content because the content generators aren't your users, they're content generators ; and your users aren't content generators, they're users, and not even that dedicatedly yours."
mircea_popescu: kinda the perpetual bait and switch of "world changing" silicon valley "businesses" in the "industry" aka websites for the rest of the world, still vying for the supposedly valuable "UGC". except for the part where there's no ugc nor would it be valuable, all's well.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 13:47 diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'm not very knowledgeable on reddit but I thought it was something where people asked questions and then their comments were voted up/down ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729212 << no that thing is experstsexchange. reddit originated as a sort of fark, "look at this cool pic" tho it originally was more like original wikipedia, "look at this cool pic of a 6 yo with her mother's toenail polish bottle up her snatch" ; migrated into a sort of livejournal "write lengthy pieces of nonsense so everyone's tulpas can pompously opine on it" sometime in the mid 2010s.
diana_coman: whether he hugs or stabs when drunk is a matter of what ails him; but whether he can do it whatever it is , is the point
mircea_popescu: i have very much noticed they can't talk to girls at all these days, wherein a coupla decades ago couldn't without a coupla shots.
diana_coman: both, either, lol
diana_coman: he can't probably stab you either for that matter
mircea_popescu: i dunno. in other counterexamples, all the finns i know are actually pacified by vodka. all fucking irritable otherwise.
diana_coman: they can without drink
diana_coman: no, latin america southerners
mircea_popescu: if this were the case latin america would be one huge boozing.
diana_coman: theoretically emotional crutch, but not sure what exactly
mircea_popescu: you know ? "what could it be". well doh. "even males will lose it if they pound shots. you're good for maybe a 100 per hour, if well trained."
diana_coman: maybe; the other part of it (which I don't know if it's just my sample bias or what) is that in the north drink is a sort of crutch: southerners I know can act crazy without drinking ; northerners...can't ; so when want-to-crazy-need-to-drink
mircea_popescu: "i think they slipped me a mickey"
mircea_popescu: alternatively urban hostility i suppose could be the culprit. there's some trilema pointing out how "this projects dweller dude is taking time out of his time off to fix a bench in the little sandy park in front of his concrete matchbox ; baltimore projects dude would just sit by pole glaring at traffic".
diana_coman: and well, they don't know how to drink either - no surprise since no practice with sane people
mircea_popescu: not a bad theory.
mircea_popescu: ah. exactly how they go blind drunk at 21 because random magic nuymbers and crash into a pole ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, if it's not female drinking, then what is it ?
diana_coman: when he was too little to talk I would just say he's fine, thank you or shrug mainly; now I can let him reply and usually he innocently floors them anyway so win
mircea_popescu: "omg he's going to fall" "bitch, go make one then you can worry about it. this one can fall."
mircea_popescu: o yeah, kids is like the boss level.
mircea_popescu: which they do.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, one of the main complaints of foreign girls was "wtf why do they spit in the street!!!"
mircea_popescu: this is a large matter ; people don't generally realise it, but there's a large push, socially, towards things. for instance, in transylvania, my girls got REGULARILY approached, by EVERYONE, all the time. "not to sit on concrete -- won't be able to have children ; not to go barefoot -- won't be able to" and so on and so forth. woman gotta be henpecked!
mircea_popescu: man... where the hell was this ? not even in teh viseu have i seen drunk ladies, and those bitches drank.
diana_coman: or rachiu rather as tuica gone
mircea_popescu: diabethes comes before inebriation.
diana_coman: possibly same time, just ..separate places; if at same place then they would rather be sober yeah
mircea_popescu: when then ?
diana_coman: sure, they weren't getting drunk at *same time* as males basically
diana_coman: just that women were usually (as they were at most times anyway) drunk *indoors*
mircea_popescu: at the time they still had the draft ; i was dodging it. people were like ... "hey, there's this special military unit, we get whores and liquor delivered by the truck weekly, you gotta come man."
mircea_popescu: those schmucks imagined they can just check out, europe's gonna provide. and boy has it provided.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well i had seen numerous rural middle aged males unable to walk. heck, it was the principal activity in the communism's abandoned factories by 94.
mircea_popescu: prior to that, i think i had seen a drunk woman, in the sense of unable to stand, like twice ? if that. who the fuck drank like the brits, nfi.
diana_coman: can say same just that blind drunk whatever-sex; the striking part was more how-and-where drunk than sex of idiots
mircea_popescu: but perhaps one of the most striking things from my first visit in london, cca 1994, striking enough that i still remember them,
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ah, cvas as the rusian notion wasn't contemplated.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i expect the reason drunks aren't as bothered by puke as the normal human is that they're so used to it. so a direct link might be that the women that habitually drink aren't nearly as likely to clean it up.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729211 << reddit didn't exist at the time we're discussing in any practical sense above "this obscure website some pedos gathered on to exchange their trading cards". it was something in the vein of metafilter i guess, or else something in the vein of digg, or else you know, one of the first sites making the transition from myspace/tripod/facebook to the latter style reddit/facebook/etcetera.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, what would be the link? my obs is that it's more whether drink is something that goes with meal and at any time or just something "special" aka binge idiocy
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 13:31 diana_coman: re barfing in the streets tbh that's in my books a very much western/northern thing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729208 << amusingly, the same places that permit female drunkedness.
mircea_popescu: there's more. http://78.media.tumblr.com/40bda38cc3ac7698a4cdd0f22c607cee/tumblr_mku9s9aT1E1rqv1ypo2_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: aaand in other dollies, http://78.media.tumblr.com/770237a25b80cac9b8f146d9d88792bc/tumblr_mku9s9aT1E1rqv1ypo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729201 << oh god almighty, if they only started arresting romanians for bad parking. this is like arresting indians for poor hygiene, or native americans for drunkedness.
mircea_popescu: that'd explain it then, such lovely green out here.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 13:22 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729131 << betcha you did it in own parking, or jungle road, lol. the gas comes from ~other~ people’s tailpipes! in traffic jam, in tunnel, etc !
mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter however is that to a large degree fain was powered by the original web delusion, "oh, lowering barriers to human creativity is what economy is all about". it's not. there's no such thing as "human creativity" in the sense of the general mass, and the barriers are there to keep us from the female wail.
mircea_popescu: it might be useful for the republic once there's enough publishing thoroughput we have to actually consider limiting access to deedbot rss ; that moment is many years away yet.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729191 << something like that. a gameified blog weighing/commenting platform ; worked as the ~onyl source of bitcoin for romanians for a year or two back when if they had the sense, it'd have meant something. a few did have the sense, most are powered by the same broken rustbox as powers the strippers and other experts in hallucinary freedoms.
diana_coman: well, approximations can make or kill a thing, but otherwise I guess you can call it that then (though by this token I'm not sure one won't be able to approximate almost any online thing to "a reddit")
diana_coman: hm; and does the system rate people/accounts basically? I think that was a crucial part of it like anywhere: if one is useful then one can do as much and what they like; if not,then ...no
asciilifeform: the question thing was a bolt-on
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'm not very knowledgeable on reddit but I thought it was something where people asked questions and then their comments were voted up/down ?
asciilifeform: sounds like a reddit then ?
diana_coman: I guess the "mechanised" part about Fain could be the automated grading of *people* based on their activity aka the "karma" points that had quite direct implications re what one could do (even whether they could comment at all)
diana_coman: and talk around them, sure
diana_coman: people proposed blog posts they considered worthy (whatever measure they used for it) with link+short description; people could vote on previously proposed links
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 02:42 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729064 << I'd wager there is no such town on the planet. Spend enough time anywhere and you'll find plenty of subhumans. I'm reminded of mini-thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-07#1652720
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 02:40 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728918 << 'Tis insanity, indeed. Some hobbyist cheese-makers / real-milk enthusists near Amish lands have been known to engage in 'black market' raw milk transactions. FDA regularly sets up sting operations to crack down on the 'contraband': http://archive.is/nfrox
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729131 << betcha you did it in own parking, or jungle road, lol. the gas comes from ~other~ people’s tailpipes! in traffic jam, in tunnel, etc !
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 00:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729077 << in some archive somewhere. was going to auction it off but then got annoyed with something in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714557 and simply tabled it instead.
asciilifeform loaded up on quality clothing, shoes, etc unavailable in usa. funnily, exactly like his father did 30y ago in ro !
mircea_popescu: and in other good behaviours, http://78.media.tumblr.com/e7b02d41647a73e28b36a7a0d591d8d8/tumblr_nm3fyroZta1tjnnm5o1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2015-12-24 19:04 mircea_popescu: "We hired a local operations manager in Denver (Sasha Juliard) and soon launched at Shotgun Willies (the highest-grossing strip club in CO) and two other bars. We made about $1,200 on each deal (50% went to DexOne, we spent $800 on each launch event and we had $500 in hardware costs), this was the only sales revenue Flowtab ever made. We were tightening up our sales process, but it was hard to market ourselves prope
lobbes: mircea_popescu, it really is a wonderful tool in the serenity belt.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 15:53 mircea_popescu: incidentally : someone writing a tex processor for serenity (ex mp-wp) themes that shinohai can then just import as a standard would be pretty epic.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-07 01:11 mircea_popescu: meanwhile i fished out vintage "classic" and "default" themes : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/classic-themestar.gz
mircea_popescu: lobbes that's what they get for not using teh wot.
trinque: lol, travels were fine. got to shake ben_vulpes' hand in the flesh for first time in too long.
BingoBoingo: And this explains why the feds were in town yesterday: http://www.bnd.com/news/local/community/highland-news-leader/article180810441.html#navlink=SecList
BingoBoingo: In other microaggressions on campus: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Ay8Lw/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: So, it looks like the next thing to come out of Hollywood is pedophile expose.
BingoBoingo: Well, tmsr bar is still higher. It is the Republic of Smart people after all.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-07 22:41 phf`: give it another 6 months before "puerto ricans are unfit for living"
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 20:42 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and nowhere in usa is there so much as a small town that's 100% people. << There's one of those nearby. Breese, Illinois. A bit further Pinkneyville, Illinois.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729064 << I'd wager there is no such town on the planet. Spend enough time anywhere and you'll find plenty of subhumans. I'm reminded of mini-thread: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-07#1652720
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728918 << 'Tis insanity, indeed. Some hobbyist cheese-makers / real-milk enthusists near Amish lands have been known to engage in 'black market' raw milk transactions. FDA regularly sets up sting operations to crack down on the 'contraband': http://archive.is/nfrox
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 22:48 asciilifeform: this place is maybe the size of 4 typical u.s. university campuses
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 21:57 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729056 << where didja bury it, mircea_popescu ? i didn't bring my spade but can get at the shop next to jooanathecow!1,
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729077 << in some archive somewhere. was going to auction it off but then got annoyed with something in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714557 and simply tabled it instead.
BingoBoingo: In other lols, D-Wave claims Higgs Boson find
BingoBoingo: The 40s
asciilifeform: various back alleys included , they tend to contain interesting items ( e.g. abandoned synagogues )
asciilifeform: this place is maybe the size of 4 typical u.s. university campuses
BingoBoingo: What about the back alleys?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at this point i've been around all the major streets at all hours of the clock
asciilifeform: other items seeming to be absent entirely: screaming or otherwise detectable drunks; barf puddles; spent syringes; signs of breaking and entering; police actually picking anyone up
BingoBoingo: Well, you aren't operating on their schedule
asciilifeform: none of these, at least not where naked eye can see'em. though i finally saw a bum. 1.
asciilifeform: like there isn't on a greyhound or a wild fox
asciilifeform: other phunphaktz : here ~everyone smokes; and entirely, fully nobody, is fat.
BingoBoingo: Chronic anoxia more likely related to smoking and being too fat to breathe among USistanis
BingoBoingo: Not necessary for planned uses like tree cutting, but very important when things go bump in the night
BingoBoingo: Easy starting also important, so synthetic 2-cycle fuel pre-mix is a must.
BingoBoingo: Or they may try hiding behind wall while not leaving premises
BingoBoingo: Ah, the japs over at Echo seem to be doing that better. More aftermarket exhaust availability to rice it up.
asciilifeform: speaking of ethnic suicides, these folx, apparently , aint having one, they're walking with strollers, playgrounds full of chillunz, typical face on street is not older than asciilifeform , etc
asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo will enjoy the husqvarna shop.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1729056 << where didja bury it, mircea_popescu ? i didn't bring my spade but can get at the shop next to jooanathecow!1,
BingoBoingo: In other news, worst case for a company address in Brazil is renting a private office in Paulista neighborhood which runs... $435/month.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They don't have walmarts with USian drive distances
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hungary is wahabifying << I thought they were the reaction to they point one can have such so close to Prussia.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and nowhere in usa is there so much as a small town that's 100% people. << There's one of those nearby. Breese, Illinois. A bit further Pinkneyville, Illinois.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, how's the "meet chicks by offering free bed and breakfast" thing going alex__c ?
mircea_popescu: not sure why anyone'd bother, but anyway.
diana_coman: I'm quite sure it would be rather easy to get the main old timers back in there to start with too; not that the problem really; good linguistic project too :D
mircea_popescu: im sure i stillo have the dumps somewhere.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ahaha, judging by activity there might be...lotus next!
alex__c: gotta triple check I have the password saved somewhere
asciilifeform: so there we go. asciilifeform is not immortal god, does not have mircea_popescu's engineering constraints!11
asciilifeform: fwiw if usa can be put in a drum and buried with other toxic waste in next decade, europe will grow back.
asciilifeform: there are no permanent futures.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, the meta-discussin is more about "i want to move there", cognate of "this has a permanent future"
asciilifeform: and if it cannot come back -- bring on the asteroid.
mircea_popescu: in the contrary, very exhaustible and not in any sense natural.
mircea_popescu: this is doubtful. the us prohibition / post ww2 eu/jp have shown us the sad truth that manhood is not in fact an inexhaustible, natural supply.
asciilifeform: whip grows as naturally as the sprouts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a fact : no one works the field without a whip.
mircea_popescu: who's gonna pay so that the lake of wine can continue.
mircea_popescu: well, narrower than that : london no longer wishes to be taxed ; the eu will survive as a bureaucracy, sure, but what else.