mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. part and parcel of the great benefits romania derived from it's great loving western neighbour stealing all its shit.
mircea_popescu: tell you what : criminal lawyer either uses rsa or isn't.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:47 BingoBoingo: And in other SOPs Sopping slop: "Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia had agreed to allow Robert Mueller to use something called the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege to compel testimony from an attorney who formerly represented Paul Manafort and Manaforts onetime employee Rick Gates."
asciilifeform: they mega-sold, even to hobbyists in usa
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:19 asciilifeform: went, apparently, into the black, when absorbed into the reich machine.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731805 << romania sold arms independently in the 90s. extremely profitable. then "joined nato", extremely not profitable anymore, but hey, "we're all part of a greater thing" and other consolations.\
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:46 doppler: haha, the last list item is great
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 19:11 asciilifeform: and to shelve them right next to actuals.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731792 << hey, this is exactly how we got "out democracy". all dem experts with human rights, by virtue of turds that sat themselves right next to genuine article.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform eggoged internally, thought $link was to the primes thing on same day.
mircea_popescu: named in the linked item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's lately a bacchanalia of 'totally not phuctor'ism, i only linked a few representative turds
mircea_popescu: but, for they interested in ancient history, the phillip g potter dood was there at c1, trying to sell his stuff. it didn't take.
mircea_popescu: and other imperial halucinaria.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:34 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of 'totally not stolen from #t', https://archive.is/UuRQt
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731785 << no but the 2012 statement doesn't count because it was you know "unfairly" too soon. only the 2017 restatement counts, because CORRECT COLOR OF BITS!11
apeloyee: the third is to spread it over several tens of MHz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult to reason about 'was doing x to su +ev' -- sorta like you shoot a man, but he dies of fright first, and then ask whether bullet was wasted
mircea_popescu: in any case the untapping cost what, 50k ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731781 << you'll note that it's unclear whether the millions us spent to tap produced a net profit for the us or su side.
asciilifeform: another is to mimic a common source of crapola, e.g. defective electric motors.
asciilifeform: the q remains of how one might hide a 100kW transmission from hitler. 1 possible method is to mimic the noise of a natural phenomenon, like lightning strike.
asciilifeform: can deal with it same as with everything else, by lubycode-cum-rsa (i.e. distiller of signal from noise , followed by authenticator )
apeloyee: you will have to deal with multipath . narrow spectrum modes is just pretending problem doesn't exist, they just stop working on destructive interference
asciilifeform: ideally what one'd like is item that is not physically distinguishable from thermal noise to anyone without the key.
apeloyee: \read condition of shannon's noisy channel coding theorem, compare with what clssic modes do, and weep.
asciilifeform: every once in a while i find the dessicated corpses of folx who were doing evidently ~same thing i was.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: i dun think anyone here would seriously consider using the turd
asciilifeform: ^ per asciilifeform's current understanding, thing is untriangulable unless enemy knows the freq keying pattern, or is standing in the near field of your transmitter.
asciilifeform: cause it can often be decoded perfectly in the most poor signal-to-noise conditions, even when the human ear cannot discern the presence of the signal, and even when it cannot be easily seen on the conventional waterfall spectrum display'
asciilifeform: in other impressive-if-true tech, http://hflink.com/olivia >> 'Olivia is one of the most robust methods of text keyboarding, that can perform superbly for long distance communications in ionospheric noise conditions where other modes fail. It is possible to communicate worldwide using Olivia with as little as a few watts of transmitter power... Olivia is different from some other types of amateur radio digital keyboarding methods, be
apeloyee: it was only an idea for the same, not actual description
asciilifeform: btw iirc at one time apeloyee posted a newtonian divider, using secretbitcount and secretshift, but the paste got gc'd and it seems i dun have a copy...
apeloyee: the division in ffa is slow
asciilifeform: (that is, naive gcd with muxed output rather than the ordinary conditional termination)
asciilifeform: nonobvious i found the aspect where it's supposed to be faster than naive gcd
asciilifeform: problems closing the 'and here we omit' holes
asciilifeform: currently puzzling over the one apeloyee posted
asciilifeform: apeloyee: it's <1s already on just about any comp the readers are likely to have. 2s on my 2009 opteron.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform did not touch ffa/p at all other than on airplane, in past wk
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:10 asciilifeform: incidentally if this were me, i'd make a voyage-only wot key, rate it +1, then at the end, when getting back to home, sign statement 'my voyage key was uneventfully used N times and then incinerated' or 'pygmies stole my voyage key K and signed audacious forgeries F1, F2...' depending on how it went.
apeloyee: because that's the only thing it accomplishes here << how did you come to this conclusion
asciilifeform: ( incidentally there will be no crtism in ffa . )
apeloyee: would need to check the no-crt version
asciilifeform: because that's the only thing it accomplishes here
mircea_popescu: there's such a thing as a classification of insanity loci.
apeloyee: not really, but then fantasies don't need rigorous definition
mircea_popescu: a perfectly valid alt-approach would be to say "transhumanist" is how the new generation of idiots (that call themselves socialists) call "the new man".
apeloyee: fwiw, I understand "transhumanist" as "fantasising about entities which are non-human except in the ways dear to me (which in practice will mean they're either impossible or are just broken humans)" work?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the folx with custom rsa-bruting silicon , i expect are pissing themselves as we speak
mircea_popescu: also it will have the interesting side effect of exposinbg the shit quality of the imperial hardware/software stacks whenever they try to use our keypairs.
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537" <- this
diana_coman: asciilifeform, guess my next run will have to be with an fg-generated exponent as well; it's not a big deal to add that now; but this was very first run of the very minimal thing
asciilifeform: the only thing you can prove is that it dun cost you nuffin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537"
mircea_popescu: (kinda why historically these were "secrets", from eleusis to scientology. the less material, the easier the complexity load)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in ffa world, you don't lose anything by using a W-bit prime for the public exponent.
mircea_popescu: the advantage of small batshit cults is that there's not enough of them to discover where they self-contradict.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cables also work well in another context: cuckolding. if you know what yer doing you can ride signal on top of , e.g., cable tv lines, or whatever derperies of the landscape
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have not yet managed to find the 1 ton of earthworms required to put through the blenders so as to extract the definition of any of these nuts' terms.
mircea_popescu: the rationale is that there ~might~ be some approaches based on pre-established exponents. this is vague, but still, why magic number.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's spamology tho, not broken modem, generally there's some consistency neh
asciilifeform: because this was in the tentative 'standard' as a variant
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:18 asciilifeform: they are imho an intrinsically usgistic item -- costly, fragile, vulnerable, conspicuous.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731778 << cable comms work well in some situations, with spools and runners as deployed in ww2. yes cable can be cut -- by the time it is you're gone anyway.
mircea_popescu: on a side note, if you ever wondered whence the "transhumanist" etc-rationalistrs come from, check out this little gem teh loney uncovered in my absence : http://trilema.com/2010/calea-spre-idiotenie/#comment-123389
asciilifeform: defo apeloyee has better reading comprehension. i entirely missed the line where diana_coman clearly wrote, she used 65537
mircea_popescu: !!rate apeloyee 2 might be the smartest guy here, actually.
apeloyee: asciilifeform: don't be silly, the discrepancy is due to using low public exponent
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, so far the ~only part iffy is perhaps choice of timer basically
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 17:54 BingoBoingo: Rewrite in works http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731666 << No good reason. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731667 << No, attempting to list the advance as a debt by recreating necessary TMSR accounting out of log fragments http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731682 << Will try not juggling network topology in forebrain when rewriting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731687 << There will be rug
asciilifeform: i see no obvious explanation for the oddity...
diana_coman: asciilifeform, possibly I managed to screw it up in an even more basic way; here's the test function itself (this one gets called repeatedly for each key and each message)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to rule out timer artifacts, can make item that, e.g., carries out 1,000 decrypts, timed with ordinary unix time cmd; then same where 1,000 encrypts
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. you will notice that public_rsa mallocs if it finds that the output buffer is same as input
diana_coman: asciilifeform, they are not; moreover the log shows clearly that encrypted stuff is different basically
diana_coman: mod6, I couldn't find some that are directly comparable aka only the rsa ops as such
mod6: could then compare your results to that and see.
asciilifeform: but i still have the feeling that this is red herring
asciilifeform: on some boxes the output for short intervals is essentially random
diana_coman: from the post: Durations are given as CPU time in seconds, as reported by the clock() function (time.h) and calculated as ( (double) (end – start) ) / CLOCKS_PER_SEC where end is the value returned by clock() right before starting the RSA operation and end() is the value returned by clock() right after returning from the RSA operation
diana_coman: the private thing basically holds anything anyway
diana_coman: ah, yes, that's just because the public key is a local var filled with the stuff from private
mircea_popescu: now on the other hand, BABY crocodiles are universally fodder, birds eat them, fish eat them. huge infant mortality among crocs.
diana_coman: honestly, it's prolly faster to go through it again and then post it all and then take it from there
asciilifeform: because i see a public_rsa(out1, msg, &pkey) but then a secret_rsa( out2, out1, skey )
diana_coman: yes but after recording the time
asciilifeform: diana_coman: didja actually verify the decryptions' equality to the original input to encrypt ?
mircea_popescu: they lurch see.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu,I know it to be uber-fast in water; dunno on land; either way, never saw one in its habitat
mircea_popescu: whereas the only sort of snake that'd bother it even conceivably is constrictor ; definitionally slow.
mircea_popescu: i know it doesn't look it, but, crocodile is one of the fastest predators ; apex predator everywhere it exists.
mircea_popescu: we're ~the first group with something to actually say.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 16:30 phf: scussions, but also any kind of attempt at crypto communication. there was nothing to say all along.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 16:21 asciilifeform: asciilifeform finds it more than a little puzzling how little of past 30y of cheap cpu, has been put to use in advancing illicit radio -- where is the dc-to-daylight cryptospreadspectrum pirate ? why idjits still on fixed frequencies, like it were 1930s today ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, this is literally the bit counting : http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/7G7XM/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this tradition still lives, with the postcards
diana_coman: well yes, basically at rsa stage all I had to change was at generating keys aka source of random bits; the rest was just identifying the relevant parts and nothing more
mircea_popescu: it was a whole subculture, you'd try and talk to people then send postcards as a sort of early deedbotting
asciilifeform: ( i dun see any invocations of secret_rsa in there )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this looks almost virginal, the oddity is prolly in wherever you invoke it
diana_coman: asciilifeform, this is the ugly rsa.c used fwiw http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/W42GS/?raw=true
diana_coman: <asciilifeform> >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DrA3R/?raw=true << for n00bs : rsa-cum-crt , as seen in koch's gpg-1.4.10 <- aha, that's what I use, yes; anyways, will comb the thing again a bit later today and then get back with something concrete
BingoBoingo: Using the time waiting for people to people to clean up and condense physical plant here for greater portability
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how's the brazil thing going
asciilifeform: also the expected speedup from crt is ~4-fold, not 100-fold...
asciilifeform: now perhaps diana_coman replaced the thing with mpi_powm( output, input, skey->d, skey->n ) or equiv. -- but then speed of encrypt and decrypt ought to be ~equal~
asciilifeform: ( though i would very much like to see how the seemingly backward decrypt/encrypt time cost diff came about )
asciilifeform: 1+ sec is moar in ffa ballpark than heathentron's
diana_coman: makes sense to post the code too though it'll end up in that annoying cycle of versioning since it's far from any final state
diana_coman: hmm, I'll check again all the way; at a first look it is as stated but will look and get back on this
diana_coman: I gotta run now for a few hours but I'll be back later if there are any obs/comments on it
asciilifeform: ( tldr : mexico in 1940s had no radio gestapo. this was used by folx in usa to circumvent the fcc racket, until quashed by fdr decree. )
asciilifeform: Brinkley in... the Brinkley Act, still vigorously enforced today, banning any cross-border studio-transmitter links originating in the US, including Doc's phone lines. From this point on, border blasters had do do it all from their side. A Mexican station was run off the air for this as recently as the 1990s.'
asciilifeform: in quite other vintage lulz, http://www.ominous-valve.com/xerf.html >> 'The United States lost this war, after Brinkley veered off into Nazi politics. He became a Hitler sympathizer, dropping the good-doctor act for a different kind of mass psychology... ...The US government had put up with goat glands, but those didn't sabotage FDR's efforts to swing pre-war, public opinion over to the Allies. This was way more serious stuff. It did
lobbes: anyways, for the wotpastes specifically, I plan to download and store those myself from the get-go (and NOT route them through archive.is), seeing as those are easily 'flagged' due to the predictable url. To alf's point, even if archive.is stays up, diddling is always a threat. Any bits I can do without it now is +ev imo
lobbes: I've always admired the 'keep data and code as separate as possible' approach you take trinque. From what I can grok, that is
lobbes: ultimately, my plan is that lobbesbot will just store urls to-be-archived in a database. A separate process will do the submitting/downloading of zip to/from archive.is. Whenever a better www-to-zip comes along I can just switch out the later process with it
lobbes: anywho, that was the piece of the puzzle I needed to solve for this 'stop-gap' archive solution. I'ma start putting these pieces together. Will keep everyone posted
lobbes: while probably elementary to most here, I just discovered that I can send POST requests with curl. One single line! The simple joys of n00bdom.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's: State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-November/000277.html
mod6: jurov: thanks for posting the October report!
asciilifeform: i'll let the actual ro-boriginals settle this one, lol
davout: not understanding the lyrics might actually help i suspect
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:30 asciilifeform: meanwhile in the world of rotaku kitsch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX9TRiFaS6c
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rogue states are all quite alike, whether they use 'crime-fraud exception' or 'soldering iron up yer starfish exception' to 'compel testimony'
asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform spotted $subj playing in one of the restaurants in timis
BingoBoingo: And in other SOPs Sopping slop: "Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia had agreed to allow Robert Mueller to use something called the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege to compel testimony from an attorney who formerly represented Paul Manafort and Manaforts onetime employee Rick Gates."
doppler: haha, the last list item is great
asciilifeform: and to shelve them right next to actuals.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:34 asciilifeform: 'how Bitfinex themselves ran arbitrage with other exchanges, and displayed orders from other exchanges as their own, as if it was their own order book' etc.
asciilifeform: 'how Bitfinex themselves ran arbitrage with other exchanges, and displayed orders from other exchanges as their own, as if it was their own order book' etc.
BingoBoingo: Other Sue once again, too passive
asciilifeform: or for that matter the current ones from regular nsa-authored 'oopses'
BingoBoingo: Well, figure they get saved for ability to say Ghandi's trademark line: "Our words are backed by nuclear weapons"
asciilifeform: they're rather like fields of wheat -- practically an invitation for mountain horsemen to come and rape.
asciilifeform: they are imho an intrinsically usgistic item -- costly, fragile, vulnerable, conspicuous.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 17:57 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave"
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 14:36 asciilifeform: it strikes me as the archetypical 'dividing the skin of an unkilled bear' , BingoBoingo
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 14:36 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731660 << i must confess that this did not make proper sense to me. is BingoBoingo's isp exists ? or 'hoped to exist' ? how operated ? none of this is clear from the linked txt
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 13:14 mircea_popescu: moreover, it's impossible to read through the wordage. are you saying that you sold bitcoin at 6.05kusd ?
BingoBoingo: Rewrite in works http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731666 << No good reason. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731667 << No, attempting to list the advance as a debt by recreating necessary TMSR accounting out of log fragments http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731682 << Will try not juggling network topology in forebrain when rewriting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731687 << There will be rug
asciilifeform: asciilifeform finds it more than a little puzzling how little of past 30y of cheap cpu, has been put to use in advancing illicit radio -- where is the dc-to-daylight cryptospreadspectrum pirate ? why idjits still on fixed frequencies, like it were 1930s today ?
asciilifeform: and unless you have artillery salvo with which to answer these questions, adventure will be short.
asciilifeform: there was a fly in my house earlier and also didn't get squashed.
trinque: point's less the efficacy of the approach but rather, loud point source didn't get squashed
trinque: sure, there was a guy in highschool cruising around in a pirate radio van
a111: Logged on 2016-09-22 14:31 asciilifeform: 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card.
asciilifeform: either that, or make use of past 100 yrs of tactic re anti-triangulation : e.g. a) radio doesn't live next to your earthly carcass, controlled remotely b) radio is not 1 emitter, but synchronized chorus ( see saddam's jammer thread) c) radio dun look like a radio, but like 'defective' appliance plausibly d ) use imagination
trinque: bother. I suppose I'll walk around reciting hex from a paper, turn my arrest into an art project
asciilifeform: trinque: does 0 good re subj. you're a pirate, yarrrr, right off the bat, because crypto
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also, ima jungle today, might not have the patience to cut up patch for sat dish. << cool!
asciilifeform: ( all he can do, is pull you into the water, and rotate himself like propeller to tear off $chunk )
mircea_popescu: they actually have a sort of team-chew implemented.
mircea_popescu: at all points duct tape can keep it shut. the opening muscles are very weak indeed. the closing muscles however... 50kN, like fucking metal press.
asciilifeform: it 'winds' for as long as 20-30sec, before it can be 'sprung'; and during this interval, theoretically a man can hold it closed and prevent the 'spring' from winding, with one hand. but asciilifeform was not permitted into the crocodilarium to verify this truism.
asciilifeform: i find it interesting how the apparatus of the crocodilians is mechanically put together
asciilifeform: i did ! but will nitpick, i indeed have stared in the mouth of a living croc
asciilifeform: give my regards to the ocelot.
asciilifeform: it strikes me as the archetypical 'dividing the skin of an unkilled bear' , BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: also, ima jungle today, might not have the patience to cut up patch for sat dish.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731660 << i must confess that this did not make proper sense to me. is BingoBoingo's isp exists ? or 'hoped to exist' ? how operated ? none of this is clear from the linked txt
mircea_popescu: sorta how the survival of the inept imperial bureaucracy was called "the church" in the orclands.
mircea_popescu: the entirely of the usg-i-cant-believe-its-not-bitcoin is the orc colonized lands. there, they actually believe the shit they read in bad localized versions of the ny times.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. not a 'cookiated' or otherwise specifically contaminated item )
asciilifeform: virginal vm with heathenware
asciilifeform: ( what kind of sense this could have made, is question that i will leave to the pro entomologists )
asciilifeform: to pile on the lulz re subj, asciilifeform saw ethertardium adcrapolade on a filterless comp in ro
mircea_popescu: because he has this option, in his dumb head, he may pick and choose. and this alternate strategy of "picking winners" in the sense of "i'll only condescend to be defeated if i like the idea, and otherwise pretend nothing happened" totally works! it's a viable alt-strategy that leads straight to personal importance and relevancy!!1
mircea_popescu: but THEN the fucktarded imbecile with thoroughly unwarranted delusions of relevancy and independence somehow magically omits to spend the intervening six months sucking the cock of the winning camp.
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/R55fd << check it out, peter surda is "saddened" by "the great bitcoin blocksize debate". you know, the march 2017 version of it, that is pre the fucking of bitcvoin crash and post the fucking of usgavin. somewhere in between.
mircea_popescu: moreover, it's impossible to read through the wordage. are you saying that you sold bitcoin at 6.05kusd ?
BingoBoingo: I was still only working step 1 back then.
mircea_popescu: aww, anjie quit umlauting too. which "distributed multiuser platform" bla bla lasted exactly as long as she kept pushing the idiots.
mircea_popescu: in other "closer ties", usg managed to get samsung's boss convicted for "corruption".
mod6: Good Evening TMSR~, the State of Bitcoin Address from The Bitcoin Foundation should be out tomorrow.
BingoBoingo: This has been a good run of meetings these past couple days. Yesterday the speaker was a "jackpot victim", tonight two newcomers came in one fresh outta rehab.
mircea_popescu recalls the openssh census lulz
mircea_popescu: we're in the process of setting up a republican isp because non-republican isps are 100% shit.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ancient lulz, http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/
BingoBoingo: Yet another "lawyer dog" because SOPs https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfit-behind-pirate-site-reincarnations-171028/
BingoBoingo: "The driver then stepped from the vehicle, brandishing what appeared to be firearms and shouting. Witnesses described hearing him shout "Allahu Akbar," a phrase that's used in a variety circumstances but which is also frequently yelled by Islamic extremists committing acts of violence. "
BingoBoingo: In other news, the fake news media is misgendering a Home Depot Load-n-go truck as a "uhaul" in their reporting on a NYC aloha snackbar
BingoBoingo: Anyways, this is very bullish for the problems of altcoin
BingoBoingo: Hey, the glass must crack up as safely as possible http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731557 << the endearing derpitude. srsly, these schmucks think anyone gives a shit about their bitcent dead fork ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:43 BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the courts decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that the defendants ambiguous and equivocal reference to a lawyer dog does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
felipelalli: Ok BingoBoingo! Just wait some minutes, I'll finish the dinner.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 19:28 BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731532 << i really dun follow the idiocy. they can say whatever, in the end what matters is what matters and the jews are not on the voice list.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: tudo ótimo! :) send me an email telling more details about your project / business and goals, and I can introduce it to any of the accountant companies I told you.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 18:39 asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731527 << it's on trilema, they decided to destroy the proper, sewage-connected items and replace at significant cost with ustardian boxes like for concerts etc.
shinohai: Rackspace + Residency, then Revelry
BingoBoingo: In other news, Peru's girls of OKC are very helpful.
shinohai: We win when lulzing, then continuing about our bidness
davout: (speaking about folks... encrypting their comms)
davout: "The assumption among these parties and organizations is largely that the potentially enormous adverse consequences are not their problem, and there are no legal consequences to their actions."
asciilifeform: 'upgrade is designed to stabilize the problematic difficulty adjustment algorithm' << lol!!
trinque finally gave in and put the IRC node back on a server.
BingoBoingo: From other tropics: "Justice Scott Crichton penned a brief opinion concurring in the courts decision not to hear the case. He wrote, apparently in absolute seriousness, that the defendants ambiguous and equivocal reference to a lawyer dog does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mosquitos exist here to. Sao Paulo is decently far south. Anyways, the white man is programmed to respond to climate aversity through colonization.
BingoBoingo: Nah, Brazil does to would be visitors to what others do to would be visitors from. This is why Peru is becoming interesting as other place with fiber so long things needing fiber stay in Lima.
asciilifeform: maybe BingoBoingo finds that he cannot abide the mosquitoes, whoknows.
asciilifeform: at any rate in his place i'd find a way to go there, prior to proposing marriages / corp shenanigans etc.
BingoBoingo: If go to consulate still takes ~1-2 weeks of passport in their hands. Brazil is very serious about reciprocity.
asciilifeform: oh another phunphakt for BingoBoingo : timis and bucharest both, appear to run on smoke. as in, ~everybody is smoking ~all of the time.
BingoBoingo: Passport back, round trip to interesting places costs ~2.5 kilo. For Brazil in particular it costs extra 2-4 weeks of passport in mail and their hands, because reciprocity.
asciilifeform: iirc they gave yer passport back, neh
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: out of curiosity, ever actually been to the tropics ?
asciilifeform: for some reason the city hall locked most of the working public latrines. though i found that they had unlocked the ones in the marktplatz.
asciilifeform: now on the outskirts of the old town there is an abandoned communist-era latrine, where the fixtures have been removed, but folx still come and piss on the floor.
asciilifeform: mod6: i did see a d00d pissing over one of them habsburg bridges. but he was no moar hobo than i.
asciilifeform: but i did enjoy the absense of 'people with no indoor voice', hollering, barfing, smashing public fixtures, etc
asciilifeform: ( where they put the bums ? i do not know. possibly all hiding inside the abandoned machine shop. )