mircea_popescu: like, a logotron is maybe a day's work to stand up and then maybe a hour monthly to maintain and such.
mircea_popescu: ok, but put out a figure. how many man hours does the concern take a year ?
concernedscaling: You know, it's actually pretty strange. I just buy and hold, but given the substantial amount of money, I rely on being current with the bullshit going on, because I chose to not underestimate the power of the idiots and how much harm it can do
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling for my curiosity, if you were to calculate the total hours you spent with " I need to take part to see how the market reacts" to date, what'd it come to ?
concernedscaling: "Moreover, my budget to sink this scam exceeds the budget of everyone involved on the supporting side"
concernedscaling: I don't want to underestimate the dumb money being thrown around. I dont want all of these idiot users to crash my BTC holdings because some fake satoshi is spewing political nonsense on redditard/twitter to control people.
concernedscaling: a cesspool of ideas and spam, just a tool for controlling people. The fighting about core vs bcash vs seg2x vs miners vs blahblah is entertaining. Sad that I need to take part to see how the market reacts
mircea_popescu: what's this, like another digg/reddit ?
concernedscaling: Creator/founder/webmaster of https://dev.to (@ThePracticalDev). Mount Allison grad, coder, buddhist, feminist, Batman.
mircea_popescu: lol notbad. who's the author ?
concernedscaling: Thanks, I will try and not get caught up in the shit that doesnt really matter
mircea_popescu: old will was right, "the world's a stage". what he omitted to point out is that the hall only goes a yard whereas the stage goes on for miles. out of the building, and into the mists.
mircea_popescu: yes, in the strictest of senses, the obscure masturbatory activities of desocialized youths "exist". but they do not socially exist, and for a very good reason : they're asocial to begin with.
concernedscaling: haha, I see. I do remember max keiser, and I see him still very involved in the bitcoin scene to this day
mircea_popescu: has toyota "mutated" or wtf is the argument here. aftermarket modifications are marginal by their fucking definition. the people involved wouldn't be involved otherwise.
mircea_popescu: you ever seen one of those old toyota trucks people deleted bits off so they read YO ?
concernedscaling: Segwit is on the real bitcoin, no?
concernedscaling: At what point can the real bitcoin continue to mutate until something bad happens
mircea_popescu: you're probably too young to remember max keiser, and his amusing "expertises" in bitcoin years ago ; nevertheless a good helping of http://trilema.com/2017/cezar-petrescu-file-dintrun-caiet-de-amintiri-mateiu-i-caragiale/#footnote_25_75738 woul;d probably help.
mircea_popescu: this is not the real situation. bitcoin exists. "bitcoin cahs" DOES NOT EXIST. the various people that talk about things similarily do not exist.
mircea_popescu: you see some labels, and take out your chinese set, and lay out the pawns, these red ones to label1, these blue ones to label2 etcetera
mircea_popescu: right. so this is also the problem here : you keep trying to make sense of the situation left after a division by 0.
concernedscaling: Thanks. I guess I am just trying to make sense of all of this, and couldnt find it in the logs. Instead of bcash forking from bitcoin, what was stopping them from just mining and rejecting segwit transactions on the the real BTC?
mircea_popescu: the stubborn insistence of the "reading public" to read old newspapers is very much the chief ideological point of the journalist "profession", as it keeps them in print.
davout: concernedscaling: i don't think there's much to be said about this whole "issue" that wasn't said in 2014/2015
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 17:30 davout: so apparently the segwit2x derps finally yielded https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.html
concernedscaling: g it was a fork (it's like Litecoin in my mind, which "scales" as well). But even more concerning is Bitcoin with segwit, and my current BTC on this upgraded protocol. I have not seen much talk about these issues in here lately, is there a reason for this? It seems like most are underestimating the threat of this fake bcash and segwit.
concernedscaling: Hi everyone. I'm trying to make sense of all this scale talk and I want to keep my BTC safe. My first mistake is probably getting information from twitter and redditard. We have Dr Craig W going on (and quite convincing) about BCash being the real bitcoin as it is able to scale like satoshis vision. However, this makes no sense to me considerin
mircea_popescu: i can almost see the local charge d'affaires, "if you don't get taller hookers ima have your hotel del ray added to index!"
shinohai: Likely, so "we gotta make sure and ban you 'muricans from these 80 hotels, just to be sure"
mircea_popescu: shinohai did it come alive at night and fuck their wife ?
shinohai: This whole US/Cuba row over the "sonic wavez" thing gets more ridiculous by the day: http://archive.is/Xhr6w
mircea_popescu: ruined coffee grinder i had to import all the way from switzerland.
mircea_popescu: and in other "god fucking damn it", i used coffee grinder to grind down some clavo de olor, which was so fucking juicy and fresh it ACTUALLY DISSOLVED the god damned plastic.
mircea_popescu: anything but suck the cock of your betters, it is teh modernity after all, french revolution relevant 4evar!!1
mircea_popescu: anyway. mildly amusing that in 2017 rando still don quixoting with the same windmills as in 2014. who knows, maybe if he wastes his ENTIRE life at this, "how he thinks normal debates work" will matter.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the lulzy tim swanson has a blog, on which he uses trilema notes, and derps insistently. i'm taking a bet nobody ever heard of it.
asciilifeform: 'The Commission has determined not to pursue an enforcement action in this matter based on the conduct and activities known to the Commission at this time' << lol!
mircea_popescu: aaand in other "united states government what ? who are these schmucks nobody heard of ?" https://www.sec.gov/litigation/investreport/34-81207.pdf
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> neither is a toyota's worth of orcland << Toyota's worth of orland in Thailand will lack any centrality
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> bits of rural costa rica look nice, was briefly looking at chile before i realized i'd probably end up at the same miserable latitude << The problem with Chile is poor internet transit capacity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734945 << not terrible choice in the 40s, the damage roosevelt was doing was neither obvious nor its staying power clear.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 02:40 trinque: oughta do it somewhere you can see yourself staying, or do without. or so the logic goes
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack, the other side of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734943 medal -- asciilifeform's ancestors, had fruit trees. but asciilifeform does not get to have fruit trees, and it makes him slightly sadder.
mircea_popescu: i say tis all in teh relationships. otherwise, ownership is illusory.
asciilifeform: and in the swamp.
trinque: tell you where, shitty real estate in florida with hair on their backs
asciilifeform: how did 'air dissolvd their wot' ? plenty of italians famiusly preserved their wot in usa
trinque: oughta do it somewhere you can see yourself staying, or do without. or so the logic goes
asciilifeform: no moar then my current one objects, lol
trinque: it's the kind of work that stays behind, too
asciilifeform: ( and even him i seem to recall cursing the air conditioner people in b-a )
ben_vulpes: lol mhm, just this month i had the gutters cleaned, various blinds replaced, wiring performed and all at zero cost to self
asciilifeform: neither is a toyota's worth of orcland
asciilifeform: but not 'married' it either
asciilifeform: you don't lease the chair you sit in, neh
trinque: haven't, but it's on the list
asciilifeform: have you been there yet, ben_vulpes ?
trinque: diameter of accountant suggests he's finding something to get fat on over there
asciilifeform: but i'd be genuinely surprised to learn that there are, say, multitude of quality icecream vendors, in thailand.
asciilifeform not yet been in person there, cannot speak to the practical acuteness of said problem.
mircea_popescu: other than that, cr oceans are indeed warm.
trinque: guy might be able to help there
mircea_popescu: then again understandable, very inept drivers.
mircea_popescu: personally went across the whole thing in a day. quite doable. especially if going at night. locals are pretty nuts with the timings, crowd within the same hours, are apparently petrified of driving at night
mircea_popescu: then again whole country can be walked across.
mircea_popescu: mountain cr kicks ass but obviously no subs there
ben_vulpes: you know i have objected to skinny dipping more and more of late on the grounds that i will get cold and grumpy within five minutes so why don't you just strip and get in and i'll make a fire up here and catcall
asciilifeform: then all water will seem warm.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: where i'm from there's a layer of maybe 6 inches of warm water in the summer
ben_vulpes: arstan had thicker rain than portland, but i heard that it was not the soul-killing constant grey fog.
ben_vulpes: bits of rural costa rica look nice, was briefly looking at chile before i realized i'd probably end up at the same miserable latitude
ben_vulpes: congrats on the new project
asciilifeform: ( ftr it ain't as if asciilifeform had a thing to move into yet. but may as well get all of the parallelizable balls rolling. )
asciilifeform: most of my earthly goodz dun merit the cost.
asciilifeform: may as well sell for fiatola, or leave for the vultures.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, simply buy them passage in a container. though that more reasonable when going to kekistans, i guess
asciilifeform: buncha other various ( laser printers, photo equip, etc ) also , but really belongs at junkyard
asciilifeform: and i think this completes the list of items somebody in l1 might actually want.
asciilifeform: other notable junk includes.... cnc milling machine ( asciilifeform-built controller , brand-new steppers )
asciilifeform: 2 dec alphas remain, plus a megatonne of other yet-uncatalogued .
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734821 << You want in on the alf firesale?
asciilifeform: the lispm is finally gone tho.
asciilifeform: any idea what the thing weighs
BingoBoingo: You're leaving the LASER!
ben_vulpes: in other news, vancouver washington elected a dead man to city council
asciilifeform: how much does the workingset weigh, BingoBoingo ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734789 << for that matter would work even better on a 'pcengines' or other small machine with GB nic + ssd .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is not such a thing as a sane fiatolistan. but otoh it is difficult to do worse than usa.
BingoBoingo: davout: And hence not Brazil parallel search becoming very attractive. Brazil is slow. Anyways the reason BingoBoingo has been condensing physical plant is that there are many compelling anti-reasons to operate ISP in US.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Depends on what I call the computer. Uruguay however has actual charts.
davout: aok, hence the .br residence permit talks
asciilifeform: what's the duty on an ancient comp anyway
asciilifeform: afaik if you make it externally baglike (i.e. with handle) and it fits in mass/dimensions given by carrier -- they'll carry it
BingoBoingo: And if wrapped in nylon and strapped together in 70 lb units, still bags?
asciilifeform: look in music 'dj' catalogue, they make cases
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ( say, 1024byte (n,e) ; then 512byte signature , of a message, e.g., 'please call me pile_of_cement' )
asciilifeform: or hm, the iso std says otherwise, it's 1 .. 4296 alphanumerics, but only max 2953 8bit bytes per iso-compliant qr.
asciilifeform: right off the lcd.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the two-diode crackpottery is definitely a favorite of mine
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: compiler for the former is at least useful, goes beyond 'meh adequate'
ben_vulpes: i'd rather write java than clojure
ben_vulpes: the thing predates my membership in thumbsdownforclojureclub
asciilifeform: ( re physical handling of pubkeys : another possibly interesting old asciilifeform crackpottery : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-01#1664335 )
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 19:15 asciilifeform: one of the interesting recurring motifs in dalrymple (british dude who worked for decades as prison doctor) re addicts is that they are not 'could be just anybody'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 23:32 mircea_popescu: who invented the redditard ? charles baudelaire described it cca 1863.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 17:10 mircea_popescu: stopping smoking doesn't reduce cancer, because the sort of shameful shitsacks that GET cancer will get it, whether from smoking or not. if not from smoking -- they'll find a different stressor.
mircea_popescu: before opium caught on there was a brain there upon which opium will have caught on later on.
mircea_popescu: this is what "anonimity" is hoped to provide to the online tard of 2010s.
mircea_popescu: feeding the self the impression of being in the center of the world while at the same time remaining invisible to the world.
mircea_popescu: who invented the redditard ? charles baudelaire described it cca 1863.
mircea_popescu: in other utter lulz : "La foule est son domaine, comme l'air est celui de l'oiseau, comme l'eau celui du poisson. Sa passion et sa profession, c'est d'épouser la foule. Pour le parfait flâneur, pour l'observateur passionné, c'est une immense jouissance que d'élire domicile dans le nombre, dans l'ondoyant, dans le mouvement, dans le fugitif et l'infini. Être hors de chez soi, et pourtant se sentir partout chez soi ; v
mircea_popescu: i'm aware, but it works better there than here.
asciilifeform: this was in old thread, re provably-fair pokerators , mircea_popescu shared the algo.
asciilifeform: ( when submitting url, can throw in optional value that gets xor'd with the server-generated . )
asciilifeform: can at least avoid applying the obviously deadly , incorrect one.
mircea_popescu: and the problem is also general, nobody can apply our correct solutions.
asciilifeform: ideally the paste magick comes from s := get-string-from-FG followed by see-if-unexpired-paste-with-s-exists
mircea_popescu: ie "today is the 5th so all paste urls will sum to 05ff" or "this item is long therefore the paste will have more caps than small letters" etc
mircea_popescu: in the sense that third party can predict (by eliminating some as impossible) future urls in whatever manner.
mircea_popescu: ideally the url is not breakable*. (*limits apply)
davout: "how dja generate key paste URL?" "just SHA1 the key" :D
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how is it implemented btw ? not something directly breakable like "hash the microtime, put through base64 and truncate" is it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 13:31 asciilifeform: thing is, there is NO sane (i.e. o(1)) way to index without demanding unique global txid.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of wisdom we ended up baking into teh whole paste thing.
mircea_popescu: right. doing something like "fp is http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ququq/?raw=true" instead of "fp is FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4" has the advantage that the ad-hoc, by time of request hash does not purport any sort of relation with the contents.
asciilifeform: can reference by anything convenient. so long as not entertaining the seductive but very dangerous notion that the reference ~is~ the item.
mircea_popescu: i suppose necessarily we'll reference them by eg bpaste ids, thereby going right back to the hash.
asciilifeform: i must say even sadder noose, i dun have an rsatron that fits in irc line either...
mircea_popescu: now to the saddest part of this all, whereby N being 512 bytes long, we can't actually fit them in irc lines.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a compromised key by definition, two people have the pq
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 22:39 asciilifeform: incidentally , if trinque at any point imports the collision-key, it will overwrite the old, silently
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734650 << this is very much a koch-gpg problem in the vein of "lobbes warning people not to rely on the "control dials" as provided by koch-gpg, for being unreliable" and probably the most important example thereof.
asciilifeform: and it's sufficient index until, i suppose , 5000 yrs pass and there are two old sages, each called himself mircea_popescu and each used modulus N, each left great body of alchemical works, but they had different, see, pub-e's.... lel
mircea_popescu: and the fact that BOTH e and comment are arbitrary is not concerning.
asciilifeform: returning to the exponent thing, seems that mircea_popescu is right, nothing particularly interesting can be done by distributing a pub with e' . ( other than 'believe me , his e is 3' and then messages ~to that pub~ are breakable if padding is broken. but that' sit . )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, n without e is not a complete pubkey, hence the e,N,comment standard. nevertheless, N is a sufficient index of the e,N,comment line that properly constitutes a pubkey.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom, 'parody horizon' -- https://archive.is/cQItH >> 'Facebook tests fighting revenge porn by asking users to file nude photos first'
trinque: *the new item
trinque: yep. and so the thing will never do so. anytime someone lets his key expire I've grunted through the item with pgpdump
asciilifeform: incidentally , if trinque at any point imports the collision-key, it will overwrite the old, silently
trinque: what happens to the interactions with deedbot if a collision occurs?
asciilifeform: the 2 aren't in any way similar.
asciilifeform: mechanically linked 'this fp IS the key' item, however, is more insiduous.
asciilifeform: if tomorrow i sign a message with my key ' asciilifeform fleanode nick was compromised 2ks ago, ignore what the idjit said' -- also stands. names are clothing.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 22:23 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 << seems entirely related. asciilifeform says no names because can't derive name from the math.
davout: sounds to me as the same fundamental problem re hashes
asciilifeform: that's what bothers me, that i can't yet prove.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may well be right incidentally, re the impossibility of somebody lying about the e in a key, doing any damage . but i cannot yet prove.
mircea_popescu: whoever wants to decrypt will either know it or not decrypt.
mircea_popescu: so what's the problem ?
asciilifeform: ( same exact op, but different colourings depending on whether encrypting or decrypting )
asciilifeform: for completeness, let's also note the rsa op :
mircea_popescu: trinque well yes but the illiterate approach (which is what this is) rapidly devolves into orcdom.
asciilifeform: 1) we plug in the FG. p, q are primes. n = pq.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 << seems entirely related. asciilifeform says no names because can't derive name from the math.
asciilifeform finds that the l0gz do not currently contain a full description of rsa
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu know a proof that i cannot choose an alternate e that will result in a pubkey that 1) verifies some or all of the existing signatures made with his genuine e + 2) verifies another, which he did not produce ?
mircea_popescu: that's unrelated to this conversation. N is not a hash, it's the modulus.
mircea_popescu: they're just words denoting a certain pubkey.
asciilifeform: the use of a hash ( i.e. item guaranteed not to be 1:1 mapping ) to 'reference unambiguously' to something, is a fractionalreserveism.
mircea_popescu: well, and having "asciilifeform" or "17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7" is having no portion of the pubkey.
asciilifeform: if e is free variable ( vs. '65537 4evah 4all' ) then having n is having half a pubkey.
mircea_popescu: in any case. there's no requirement that you be able to use the word "car" to go shopping in it ; and similarily there's no requirement that you be able to use a key's fingerprint to sign, or check signatures with it. the intention of the fingerprint is to permit you to reference a specific key unambiguously to a third party, such as when asking for it.
mircea_popescu: but this dun include es, pictures, nicks, other comments. it includes N.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can't take 32 chars you don't belong here.
mircea_popescu: well, at first it was about lobbes warning people not to rely on the "control dials" as provided by koch-gpg, for being unreliable ; then you wanted to talk about fps and then at some point and without warning anyone apparently pivoted to talking about pubkeys and signatures.
asciilifeform: what then, instead, about fram, ursul polar ?
mircea_popescu: what's signing got to do with the discussion ?
asciilifeform: you can't sign with either.
mircea_popescu: how do you even put up with "asciilifeform" in the first place ? shouldn't it be stanisalvborninodessaandflownbyparentsacrossseaatcostofsellingitemsfromhouseandalsodoesntlikewashingtondcandhasagirlandahouseblablabla ?
asciilifeform: crypto sigs are to be unambiguous. is the entire point of'em.
trinque: all deedbot is offering up is an identifier within its own namespace for the - yes - full key
mircea_popescu: the fact that we're still using a what was it, 400 char line protocol has some bearing on what we call things.
asciilifeform: however they don't use hashes, so no collisions
BingoBoingo: The cool ones four, at some point six+
asciilifeform: ( they die faster than born , so no shortages )
asciilifeform: the ham radio people still have iirc what, 5 letter names
mircea_popescu: them 04YcZ or w/es are working splendidly well
mircea_popescu was rather toying with the idea of standarizing ben_vulpes 's identifier thing across teh republic.
asciilifeform: dun matter for how long it was state of the art in my chukchistan.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're evidently buying, seeing how, let's do it the third time...
mircea_popescu: the four letter, base 26 hash works remarkably well.
asciilifeform: the historic 'it wasn't visible broken in my face' can justify any kind of shitcrypto, the use of winblowz, whatever customary syphilis . i ain't buying.
mircea_popescu: but somehow commerce hasn't come at astandstill by the fact that you can call a folded sheet of paper as well as a 100`000 ton transport item "boat"
mircea_popescu: $0 usd gets you a "boat" in the sense you contemplated back at http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-21#1672940
asciilifeform: you build bridge for 500 tanks, not for the wheelbarrows crossing river to date.
asciilifeform: that nobody saw it fit yet to do this in front of asciilifeform's face, is neither here nor there
asciilifeform: 20-50k usd gets you another 17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7-sha1 but diff modulus.
mircea_popescu: if the above read, like ben_vulpes 's paste, five letters in base64, we'd be none the poorer.
mircea_popescu: the detriment has yet to materialize.
mircea_popescu: this isn't something to be bruteforced through protocol. people can keep cabbage in pots labeled sugar all they want.
hanbot: mircea_popescu> i am (i guess?) proud to say that ro pron party included womenz to my knowledge. wtf is the point without, they jack off on the zacusci ? << issat a typo or is a jacuzzi fulla zacusca a thing?!
mircea_popescu: so trinque gets a notification that hey, you got the wrong ITEM stored under reference X.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's key with altered pubexp is a valid key, and not mechanically distinguishable from the original's in the absence of sigs.
mircea_popescu: that this reference is not functional, which is to say does not substitute for the thing it references, is a trivially true and entirely spurious observation.
mircea_popescu: there can be no doubt as to which key is being referenced if the reference consists of modulus.
asciilifeform: it is relevant to the screaming wrongness of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734499 statement.
mircea_popescu: much like whether fps are or are not useful wasn't discussed by anyone but yourself. the original problem was that gpg unreliably reported "key doesn't expire" to lobbes , when in fact it did expire.
mircea_popescu: whether e is or is not part of pubkey was not at any point discussed by anyone other than yourself ;
mircea_popescu: NO, this doesn't explode to where everey possible PROPERTY of the item is now also going to be detailed in the name.
mircea_popescu: yes, koch fps are ineptly chosen names. yes there's value in having a biunivocal name-item relation by default.
mircea_popescu: but a third party asked for N knows WHAT key is being discussed. which is the point of labeling keys.
asciilifeform: so they are both rightfully part of a pubkey.
asciilifeform: just same as if you did not know the n.
asciilifeform: review the algo.
mircea_popescu: this complete identification may not include automatically the irc name, or the exponent, or the user's dog's picture
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 21:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no need to include the exponent. if ppl don't know what exponent to use for a certain modulus, let them find out.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734480 << how are they to find out ? by same argument you could as easily say 'post first half of modulus, let'em look for other half'
mircea_popescu: on which topic, i suppose also related http://trilema.com/2015/and-then-she-went-splat-on-the-asphalt/#selection-413.0-413.67
mircea_popescu: sure. but more generally, the names of things respect the rules of grammar, not the rules of mechanics.
mircea_popescu: which reduces to "there ARE practical limits to labels for things ; and they are unrelated to the sizes of the things, i expect the WORD for ant, dick, car and aeroplane to all fit the ~5.6 characters rule as universally enforced in alphabet"
mircea_popescu: but if you come up with the idea that "you know what, alf can have whatever kilometric hash and in my deedbot implementation ima use the first 100 chars and that's that" im not gonna bitch.
mircea_popescu: trinque the argument is that check this out :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform unless the fucking fp can fit in irc, we're stuck building gossipd before using this "Actual thing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no need to include the exponent. if ppl don't know what exponent to use for a certain modulus, let them find out.
ben_vulpes: and if it's not important enough to push a valid key through the cracks of the sybil wall, i guess it wasn't actually important enough.