mircea_popescu: anything, no matter the circumstances, whitebread ustard can be RELIED ON not to do.
mircea_popescu: but ballas' point is fundamentally sound : the "fridge logic" moment on ~the absence of which~ the whole multi-mn attempt rests is... it WILL NOT occur to you to propose to her.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ad in question seems to have vanished ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 16:36 asciilifeform: but you also gotta be able and willing to lift the throne ( old houses in usa have no cleanplug ) etc.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thinks this is "technology" ?! it's not fucking technology, it's elaborate psycho-orthopedics.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 16:19 asciilifeform: there are other fluoroplastics , that are easier to work / other desirable parameters tweaked
mircea_popescu: but they fucking are. can not act. gotta elliot. "WHY NONE OF THESE GIRLS TALK TO ME!!1" "did you talk to them ?"
mircea_popescu: the whole time im sitting there going "Wtf why not just walk her to her god damned car, all this management for 10 steps, what are these dudes, planets moving by immutable laws ?!"
mircea_popescu: ed her to be a symbol of value chose to be near you, your brain couldn't figure out what to do next? In which case her decision to leave you for another umbrella was astutely correct, odd how she and the commercial knew that. All men are good for is an umbrella because she cannot rely on men to act like... men."
mircea_popescu: ped up in what it all means and power imbalances that you couldn't just... behave? Ok, forget about chivalry-- out of sheer selfishness, a hail mary longshot? Sure, no expectations, but what the hell, let's see where it goes, maybe she'll ask you out for a Guinness? Were you so insulted by her "entitlement" that you couldn't just try? Or so flustered because a woman that you have stripped of her ordinary humanity and forc
mircea_popescu: "There's a gigantic error in the ad, yet to most people the ad is totally believable, like this is a hidden camera vid, this error is invisible to them; and if this error was corrected this ad would have never been possible. Do you see it? Why didn't one of these "men" just walk her to her car? Three guys, not one thought of this? She's under your umbrella and your natural instinct was not to protect, to help? So wrap
mircea_popescu: (and in lulz of all time : laid bricks in, leaving space to pour reinforced concrete pillars later. not the other way around. because... EASIER THIS WAY!!!)
mircea_popescu: cuz these people WILL NOT FIX, anything, ever, until it literally breaks.
mircea_popescu: can change periodically, can change on the basis of heatmap...
asciilifeform: hence the q. how often can it be expected to melt down. and how recoverable after meltdown.
mircea_popescu: these got disk-fixed tho. so conceivably years.
asciilifeform: hey phf what do you suppose is the mtbf of a present-day bolix 'xl' ?
asciilifeform: ain't that the whole 'female' strategy in compact algo ? 'guaranteed catch of bag of tiny fishes, in return for 0 chance of whale'
mircea_popescu: "it works sorta-better for the above average and so what if i 100% miss out on the high sigma events!!!"
mircea_popescu: the obvious similarity to the above-discussed coy behaviour entirely hush hush in the fem-bois.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, erryone's going to continue in this "i will wait until the world conforms to my webpage and sends email according to my own bureaucratic misrepresentations" elliotism until they fall over.
ben_vulpes: was that predicated on stopping in at the vintage museum?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-02 22:44 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz : i just brokered a deal whereby we could in principle get candi to run off vintage iron, as a hosting deal :D
asciilifeform: i dun expect to find ns src for the cpu, but could theoretically find pinout or even data re pcb , which is almost as good
phf: i suspect the sources in question are just dumps from iso, i.e. the high level stuff. i'm positive that he doesn't have the bits that you actually want (i.e. the bedrock code)
mircea_popescu: but since we've done all the talking about it that could be done that's that, i take it ? nuts.
asciilifeform: console had equiv. of workstation cpu at the time ~just for sound~ etc
asciilifeform: it was possible to actually program the fep tho
mircea_popescu: (but -- very much yes. the reason "glories of the past" are glories of the past is that they were killed before grew teeth.)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 17:01 phf: asciilifeform: i thought maybe the design was some historic artifact, but no, none of the cads i looked at (including fucking cmu's NS, which is probably first or second cad in existence) had that split.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-23 03:09 asciilifeform: well, starting with the crown jewels , and down :
asciilifeform: they did own chip layout , pcb, mechanicals, glass, etc.
asciilifeform: 'ns' was their in-house cad thing, 100% lisp
asciilifeform: lispm had a board dedicated just to bringing up the lispm proper on boot. had equiv. of sun workstation of the time, in there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the classical cd shipped with sources, but not for some of the more interesting items (e.g. 'ns' chip and pcb layout cad; systemolade of various sorts (e.g. fep) etc )
asciilifeform: i'ma see if they match mine some time later when i can be arsed.
mircea_popescu: and in other great antiques from known sources, https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/09/real_men_want_to_drink_guinnes.html
asciilifeform: the one dks gave out to all junk buyers. it is also on warez ( on 'piratebay' to this day afaik )
ben_vulpes: what is "the cd"?
ben_vulpes: (assuming they are source code)
ben_vulpes: sounds interesting, is that a commonly shared thing, the sources?
asciilifeform: but the rest -- yes, variously interesting
asciilifeform: i meant the bolix
asciilifeform: sadly most of it is stuff that was on the cd set
mircea_popescu has credible oak desk, can pound to satisfaction. improves the furnioture in the process
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi, could be theatrical
mircea_popescu: jesus they make shitty tables now
mircea_popescu: aite then.
mircea_popescu: https://chiliproject.tetaneutral.net/projects/tetaneutral << is my search broken or are you not in there ?
mircea_popescu: so basically the more active folks took off and made their own corp ? is it still in business ?
ang-st: 2 different area, 2 different problematic and the wish to go "for profit" ie build a company on top, create billed jobs
mircea_popescu: ang-st incidentally, what happened on march 2015 ? pretty much broke the organisation, what was it, the usual "colectif socialiste" internal quarrel and split ? who left ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://lesplanade.org/ that link of liaisons isn't that maintained is it ?
mircea_popescu: ang-st most of those would be best recruited in a cafe in toulouse neh ? 80% or more of whatthey do being physical presence
asciilifeform: otherwise any derp can 'hey mail me this machine'
asciilifeform: and needless to say none of these happen unless valid pgpgram
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very, very basic 'support' can't really be gone without -- 'pull disk #5 and put this-here that i mailed you in', 'tell this new box its ip', 'yank the box and mail to me, i'm going home' etc.
mircea_popescu: also support is not sought, i don't think, if by support you mean manpower as opposed to you know, cooling. (if the latter, there's really 0 interest in a "best effort dc / someone's house".)
mircea_popescu: at this phase, interdicting the socialist mind's self-misrepresentations is quite sufficient.
mircea_popescu: ang-st protection from whatever soi-dissant "government" or whatever is not being contemplated at any point. what is being contemplated is not protecting the pretend-government itself from its own actions. so if it steals a box, that's fine, we shall say "the so and so illegitimate criminal gang stole so and so republican property" and that's that. no us-style "secrecy" is the whole story.
ang-st: we alreeady forked as the structure was to big
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:32 mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online,
ang-st: if it works for them, i'm fine with it, anyway i would not follow their architectural advises, that's it :)
mircea_popescu: limon is thereby a neighbourhood with a different coutume, which is to say eating huge platters of badly done teriyaki and thinking "hotel" is "i built some rooms atop the garage myself and will permit vagabonds to crash there".
mircea_popescu recently went to limon, on the basis of one chick observing "Hey, most of the local girls we fuck are actually from limon! maybe check out the source ?" then couldn't find either an acceptable restaurant or hotel, so turned the capsule back and returned home.
mircea_popescu: sure. but im not going there.
ben_vulpes: doesn't make the scytale an acceptable cipher
ang-st: well consider them neighboor with different coutume :)
mircea_popescu: working with the republic is entirely dependent on working ON republican methods.
ang-st: mircea_popescu: question@tetaneutral.net it you want to put a box there
asciilifeform: i have currently 3 boxen for pilot plant. all 3 contain 32cores of 'opteron 6376'. 2 of them contain 256M of ram; 1 currently has 24G ( can hold up to 256 ). each has 2 x G/sec nics, 2 x (reduntant) 700W ps .
mircea_popescu: well, also a cheap explanation as to why there's "flat earth" believers to this day. but we digress.
asciilifeform digs in log. could've sworn i posted the specs
ang-st: sorry dunno the reference
mircea_popescu: ang-st my point, conversely, is that the general public is as human as the population of holstein cattle. nobody cares nor ever will.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: me ? i have the 3 pilot boxen as prev. catalogued. or you meant him
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you wanna send one box on an adventure to these folk ?
ang-st: how long beetween the seminal RSA paper and it's widespread use ?
mircea_popescu: i don't know yet, there might be something here.
mircea_popescu: ie the makers of the endless september, the " a burden if mandatory or simply ignored".
mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online,
mircea_popescu: or is the idea here that user=partner
mircea_popescu: but your partners ? not tech savy either ?
ang-st: might work if most of our users were tech savy, but tbh the way it goes actually it would be a burden if mandatory or simply ignored beside some folks in any other cases
mircea_popescu: consider also the whole WoT infrastructure ( http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ and say http://wot.deedbot.org )
mircea_popescu: as it happens we're right in the middle of building republican infrastructure, in principle at least as to what meets the eye very similar to whart you have there.
mircea_popescu: also : any interest in moving your associates registration to the already existing and well developed deedbot WoT infrastrcture ? payments via same system, in bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: any interest in getting a rack or two in a similar squat somewhere in the colonies, algerie, morocco, whatever ?
mircea_popescu: what's that, like the old style interchange room ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes funny thing, i read a r in there.
deedbot: davout rated ang-st 1 << didn't run away screaming in the first ten minutes
davout: !!rate ang-st 1 didn't run away screaming in the first ten minutes
mircea_popescu: basically it's a whole pile of "how could i reinterpret the world through my firmly held notions of biblical truth". this is nice and good, provided a large solid comedy goldmine for the whole 1800s, "darwinism debate" still ongoing in particularily protected corners of the swamp.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735297 << ah, are you the dev.to guy ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735296 << studiously ignored the "nobody holds any title to any bitcoin" portions of http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/#selection-129.0-129.311 final and dispositive ruling on the matter.
asciilifeform: 'how many divisions has the pope?' (tm)(r)(iosif vissarionovich)
mircea_popescu: of course, the original pope trying for this ended up going around barefoot in the snow to beg forgiveness.
mircea_popescu: if all the "here's the usg-bitcoin, accept it in exchange" doesn't work as it hasn't with ripple/ethereum/bitcoin-core/crash/whatever, the only remaining avenue is the idly papal claim to "all the bitcoins".
asciilifeform: if 'all land belongs to the crown', and 'sea belongs', and 'radio spectrum belongs', etc. why not also bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: but yes, one'd fully expect pretend-sovereigns of the fiat ilk to arbitrarily assign themselves title in bitcoin. why the hell not, they've assinged themselves "representativity" of "society" and "justice" and "the environment" and so forth.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:42 ben_vulpes: in other "random conversations": https://mechanicalmarkets.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/bitcoin-nemo-dat/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735296 << studiously ignored the "nobody holds any title to any bitcoin" portions of http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/#selection-129.0-129.311 final and dispositive ruling on the matter.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:43 ang-st: i guess the random guy having this random convo with me was davout
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735275 << hey, they traded in the frigates for "litteral completely sunk"s, somehow missing entirely the sad irony of blue-sea-unworthy frigate.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:33 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in any case it hasn't applied to generals ever since they stopped being expected to lead men on horseback into attack
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sorta was the impetus for asciilifeform's entire q -- can haz transoceanic radio that scales down to, e.g., suitcase
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 20:01 asciilifeform: observe, the problem dun exist if you already have your own pyongyang and can happily put a megawatt station there and invite whoever objects, to pound sand up his arse
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733631 << it occurred to me that the fortification model is entirely unsuited for war against the megastate. correct approach here is "we can deliver munitions anywhere within $city, even to a mobile individual."
ang-st: will rtfm the stuff
ben_vulpes: good idea to do that sooner rather than later; provisional ratings are easy to come by for the newcomer who registers quickly, less so for the obstinate/self-important
ben_vulpes: ang-st: anyways, the way this place works is that you register a gpg key with deedbot, and then maybe someone gives you provisional membership in the list of folks that can give themselves speaking privileges
asciilifeform: ang-st: asshole in C << koch, drepper, et al. but they're old and they ain't making more, for some reason.
ben_vulpes: gotta say, i've never seen the perfect asshole
ben_vulpes: > because its authors are who they are
ben_vulpes: you know, the sort of thing that web pages do normally, but that js idiots can't figure out how to do
ben_vulpes: ang-st: the other day i observed 'slack' fail to inline a 7.4 meg gif because its authors are who they are
asciilifeform: 'if you’re worried you possess stolen coins and want to sell them, you may want to consult a lawyer first. The National Stolen Property Act could apply to intangible goods' << lol!!
ang-st: i guess the random guy having this random convo with me was davout
ben_vulpes: in other "random conversations": https://mechanicalmarkets.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/bitcoin-nemo-dat/
ben_vulpes: ang-st: there are logs at http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema and btcbase.org/logs for the idling
asciilifeform: ang-st: how about link to the 'random conversation' ?
ang-st: a random conversation in the internet
asciilifeform: ( 1940s-era propeller fighters also would. but these cost moar money, and you gotta train somebody to fly, etc )
asciilifeform: actually very closely resembles nazi army . yes, somewhere there is dr von braun with wunderwaffen. but mostly it's d00dz with old rifles.
asciilifeform: the fancy hardware that exists, is largely circa 1980s.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in any case it hasn't applied to generals ever since they stopped being expected to lead men on horseback into attack
asciilifeform: there was even some interest in usa, 'learn the game that built the strategy of the enemy!11' lulz
asciilifeform digs, but fails to find link , re incident where jp attaches taught go to the german general staff, and they actually played, until the house with the boards was destroyed in bombing raid
asciilifeform: ( and in many of these 'great leaders' , head was not the strongest organ to begin with )
asciilifeform: sadly the head gives out 1st.
mircea_popescu: it's inexplicable, to me at least, how virility is not part of the army qualifying list, btw. "this dude does not look hot naked and therefore can no longer be an army general. retired." seems perfectly mandatory for a fucking army.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect the logical conclusion would be to say old men revert into dysfunctional womanhood.
mircea_popescu: now, the generals are similar : for the benefit of "oh, it's directly readable" they lose out on the all-important, paramount consideration, "but not by the enemmy"
asciilifeform: ( in the 'detonate' case, it isn't clear what enemy gets from reversing your die if you used correctly-built publickeytronics )
mircea_popescu: on fails to overshadow the fact that individually speaking if you're going to sink nine months of blood + three of fat into the project, you totally fucking want the very very best available.
mircea_popescu: to explain ourselves : the coy behaviour is defined as the spurious pretense of sexual disinterest put forth by a universally-interested machine ; and it is counterproductive because while it does in fact increase (somewhat) the success with above-average value partners, it entirely ruins any perpsective of success with the highest value partners. that this may (arguable, and i doubt it) sum to positive over a larege populati
asciilifeform: senile old brezhnevs insisting on using plain vs crypto pnoje , yes. tho i was thinking of crypto in weapons systems and other unattended 'get magic packet, detonate' items.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why or wherefore, it's about as counterintuitive as the coy behaviour in females.
mircea_popescu: somehow crypto discipline is impossible for military staffs. except for the okw, everyone has trouble with it, be the soviets talking to sub base or the ustards talking totheir "socialites" or w/e they call the tired old bags.
asciilifeform: they use plenty of 'crypto'
mircea_popescu: would matter a lot more if the us actually used crypto.
asciilifeform: hence the recent interest in 'what happens to crypto when single-event fault' etc
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 16:51 mircea_popescu: performance of the density kind is an anti-model for rocketry. on the contrary, large, wide edge process like the z80s much better fit for space usage.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735222 << returning briefly upstack, there's a 'seekrit' bit of hilarity : usg actually moving away from old, classic 'z80-style' dies, and into 'let's have modern density, so we can run javaturds, let ibm make 'space-grade' ppc , etc -- but that's ok, we'll use 8 in tandem '
mircea_popescu: they've no balls cuz they've no penis and vice versa, and ultimately because no testosterone so every bit of soy sauce they pick up from environment makes the titties sag a little hurtlier.
mircea_popescu: they had plenty of balls in 1990, if memory serves. even bombed belgrade.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so let me get this straight : you think beta loves his cock cage because "no balls", and NOT because "small cock" ? these are somehow different ?
mircea_popescu will use this henceforth to distinguish the item from europe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought it 'lost' because noballs ( rather than rockets-not-rockety-enuff )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they ARE looking for weaknesses. there's a reason usg lost south china sea.
mircea_popescu: finally, the zone.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it occurs to me, euroZONE is the perfect word for it, isn't it ?
asciilifeform: ( in almost every case i can think of, 'design from 0' is cheaper than 'logical reverse'. so the latter is ~only done when you are specifically looking for weaknesses or otherwise items present only in the original , vs the spec )
mircea_popescu: and in other adult women, http://78.media.tumblr.com/a27554aac9813b9b1975fef271f3a33e/tumblr_nl7z3wYWjR1tenemio1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: i'd expect. the trick is that almost no one has ever any reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the chinese have teh manpower to do it, if organized.
asciilifeform: in the 'logical' sense , original z80 was only ~recently~ publicly reversed
mircea_popescu: performance of the density kind is an anti-model for rocketry. on the contrary, large, wide edge process like the z80s much better fit for space usage.
asciilifeform: also gotta distinguish b/w the 2 types of reversing ( did we have thread ? ) -- sov-style clone is CONSIDERABLY easier than proper logical reverse
asciilifeform: ( rather than 'performance' or whatever nonsense )
asciilifeform: half the reason for the ultra-dense vlsi thing , i suspect, is to make reversing a headache
asciilifeform: at least in 1980s they were. nfi re nao.
mircea_popescu: the rocketry chips are made in like vermont at considerable expense
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 14:18 mircea_popescu: " The Saudis will not be able to link the S-400 with Saudis current (US and Europe-sourced) infrastructure, nor will they be able to connect the S-400 with US systems." << says who the everloving fuck.
mircea_popescu: scary enough as it is, the hopes of the us as to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722633 are entirely spurious. teh chinese have long reversed all us military chips.
asciilifeform: if yer thing is multilayered you'd ideally have the microscopy done in same house.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'd be pretty scary.
mircea_popescu: communist consumer might have not been the end-all be-all, i find myself sometimes suspecting.
ben_vulpes: "i don't know much, but i paid attention in materials and machine design while everyone else was browsing facebook and copying homework out of the solution guide"
asciilifeform: i mean, the thing looks multiaxis-machined
asciilifeform: oh hm these look interesting, ben_vulpes , sorta like jet compressor
ben_vulpes: or maybe just maybe have a care for the final product and take minimal steps to minimize pre-cooking out of volatiles
ben_vulpes: but what, give up, sacrifice all efficiency because there's always more gas down the road?
ben_vulpes: not really possible to exist without producing waste heat either
ben_vulpes: also burr grinder does not cook the coffee while grinding it, ever notice how the bladed model leaves the grounds...warm?
mircea_popescu: he has a point, i hadn't thought of that. exactly like pepper mill, have two cones in each other, adjustable distance.
ben_vulpes: why, when the burr grinder is an excellent solution
ben_vulpes: also, blade pulverizes, burr shears. better extraction with the latter method.
ben_vulpes: ah well yeah, especially the bladed models are going to produce lots of high velocity particles
mircea_popescu: https://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-Fresh-Grind-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B005EPRFKO << the dead item, since we're doing this.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu earlier suggested , 'boltzmann distrib' of coffee speck velocities, almost certainly has high end that grinds pieces of your vessel into the output
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the burrs are steel in mine
asciilifeform: but you also gotta be able and willing to lift the throne ( old houses in usa have no cleanplug ) etc.
mircea_popescu: not the kind that turn dishes green, i'd have imagined ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most clogs happen metre or two from the arse
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that looks like a starbuckstron. which i always suspected has a part in explaining why their swill tastes like burned plastic
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform drain does 100m drop over a mile, calculate the force a column of water puts upon it, obtain higher value than kitchen garbage disposal unit applies
mircea_popescu: that's the counter-counter of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733641 : it is impossible to clog drain here.
asciilifeform: the joys of 'spend every penny you make, and owe maxint'
mircea_popescu: the joys of overcrowding.
mircea_popescu: the tub has no drain an' erryone looks pretty drained.
mircea_popescu: notrly the poles. more like proper reamings.
asciilifeform: they also had proper wars.
mircea_popescu: what good catholic didn't have a dozen kids then.
asciilifeform: the 1880s housewife didn't insist on existing in 1e9 copies.
mircea_popescu: takes a lot of effort to reproduce today the kitchen of 1880 middle class polish housewife.
mircea_popescu: the sadness of "modern technology" is that it fails miserably at things that aren't THAT technologically advanced.
asciilifeform: shinohai: they had exactly like this grinder in the timis 'museum of communist konsoomer'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didn't think of it. actually, had 0 expectation i'd end up with a dissolved-and-recombined surface of the inside of the thing, from smooth to matte.
asciilifeform: this was described in the altschuller b00k
shinohai: Yeah, 0 plastic parts. Had the thing like 5 years now
mircea_popescu: so wait, i got really good clovges and ima put them into a "make-them-like-the-walmart-ones" tool ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but general solution for this (salt) not usable. and i don't eat enough sugar for that alternative + i don't eat the white hygroscopic kind
shinohai: I have one of these, best one I have ever bought: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A6CP1HI/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1
asciilifeform: ( or is the juice necessary )
mircea_popescu: was the idea.
asciilifeform: incidentally why ground the thing in coffee grinder, vs blender ( with the glass bulb ) ?
mircea_popescu: it's what they used to do.
asciilifeform: so can haz kitchen bronze, then.
mircea_popescu: reason i even know "cuisinart" is that they used to make metal tools. except stopped.
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with a chunk of fucking bronze, 100 grams or so, for the inner housing.
mircea_popescu: let the dumps contain 1000 plastic re-instantiations of the same god damned object, what if i could afford to pay 3x the price and leave it to my grandkids.
mircea_popescu: now, it';d be nice if you could buy BRONZE interior. not fucking electrolysed, but SOLID. nevertheless, it is apparently usg-forbidden to use actual materials.
asciilifeform: there are other fluoroplastics , that are easier to work / other desirable parameters tweaked
asciilifeform: it's a fluoroplastic ( the su unbranding of it, naturally )
mircea_popescu: i'll stand by it : this then means that teflon is only marginally at best a plastic.
mircea_popescu: i suppose. so how does it polymerizwe then ?
mircea_popescu: it's the definition of plastic.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 05:05 mircea_popescu: ruined coffee grinder i had to import all the way from switzerland.
mircea_popescu: so basically speaking, for as long as the women will keep getting pregnant the schoolteachers will still have work to do.
mircea_popescu: in any population the majority will be insufficient, and therefore readily converge towards somesuch nonsense.
mircea_popescu: from this search of "the easier way" by people stupid enough to not be able to distinguish the workable from the unworkable, the scam ever emerges.
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling the generator is ambitious idiots. they don't "feel" their current social station is befitting for one such as them ; but they ALSO don't "feel" like they should have to do what has to be done.
shinohai: But how else will I know what the ants are doing?
asciilifeform: 'why dontcha stop sitting on anthill' 'wat' 'aha, get off the anthill' 'that's not possible, everywhere is anthill' etc
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735055 << this was the umpteenth 'i am beset with ants! and i heard you have an anteater here' wasnnit.
shinohai: Navigating to http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html and building that would be a far, far better use of one's time as well.
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling well... i'd say you have good cause to be concerned then.