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BingoBoingo: We all float on alright
BingoBoingo: Du hast
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Oh Chicago PD tonight... Why do all of the feds have stainless steel lockers...
assbot: Meet KeySweeper, the $10 USB charger that steals MS keyboard strokes | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2UAHR )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I assume that is every charger
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your new router seems to be getting mad props nao.
asciilifeform: 'charger' was just the furniture used as mask.
assbot: Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/155u4Ro )
BingoBoingo: Coffee pot works as well, yes. /. thread proposing new router as single oard computer for the wrong reasons, mad lulz
assbot: Tiny Fanless Mini-PC Runs Linux Or Windows On Quad-core AMD SoC - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/155uK9k )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty
asciilifeform: that's an x86 box
BingoBoingo: Almost liek they want to poison the rep of the decent if not good
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You router is mentioned downthread
BingoBoingo: Endorsers endorse it for bad/wrong reasons
asciilifeform: not seeing it
BingoBoingo: "no karma" on mentioning posts
asciilifeform: not that many vendors to choose from - if you want a fanless non-x86, non-arm box with >256M ram.
BingoBoingo: mentions appear... clackholed
BingoBoingo: *blackholed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually ima write that up for qntra.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Go for it.
BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty
BingoBoingo: !UP DreadKnight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: add keyserver to the list of things la serenissima wants its own of, eh? << heh sure, eventually.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: <BingoBoingo> A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine << I like it << kinda how it has to work anyway
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. I got that much from the convo. asciilifeform Was totally right about the thing living as streams of UDP piss
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: and now you found out that altcoin extremist are also bad ? << dude... you people are so hard to troll i swear. what sort of a cult are we running here out of this much internet savvy and genre savvy and whatnot! i think we're supposed to fall over backwards every time some random lolcow wanders in and says something nice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor. << OTP ? :D
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty << it finally dawned on me what cazalla wanted with domme chicks.
mircea_popescu: get a busted lip, bust out 50 qntra articles in a rage.
BingoBoingo: Seriously
BingoBoingo: I'm not so picky. Just B cups and a big fat butt... I'm good on that.
BingoBoingo: I bleed... She bleeds... that's just logistics
BingoBoingo: Seriously looks like Obummer is going to push the E-patriot act though which sucks
mircea_popescu: if a shit suddenly farts, is it shittier than before it farted ?
BingoBoingo: No, It is just a shart, an awkward compromise
BingoBoingo: #bitcoin-otc right nao: <BingoBoingo> Any thoughts or interest on order #21899
BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> Well, possible there's a niceguy stevepn out there that FF took the name of for his dirty deeds. If he's authed, it's FF fo sho :P
BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> ;;view 21899
BingoBoingo: <gribble> #21899 Wed Jan 14 21:58:43 2015 BingoBoingo BUY 40.0 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor @ 1 BTC (Serious Inqueries only)
BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> Why so cheap, BingoBoingo, is it a power hog?
BingoBoingo: <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: that's ONE buy? what a weird combo. :)
BingoBoingo: * Newyorkadam has quit (Quit: Newyorkadam)
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Dizzle: Not cheap. I price BTC at fair market value. None of this roulette on whether Bitstamp can deliver bullshit.
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: Makes perfect sense. Naval reactors are reliable. Basically free electricity for 20 years
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Also for cooling, weld some fins on and... ocean
BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> ohh, you're buying, thought you were selling for a second. :D
BingoBoingo: * ctx` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Nah, I want the boat and hardware to fill it.
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> I'll buy higher than 1 BTC for what I want... But... I'm not gonna get Jew'd on this shit.
BingoBoingo: <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: can civilians GET a working reactor? :P
mircea_popescu: dude srsly...
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: WHy not. I didn't personally sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
mircea_popescu: pastebin wtf.
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BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> And I will be Damned if Obola tries to negate my second amendment rights with treaty agreements.
BingoBoingo: Eh, I know what I want to buy.
punkman: http://italiastartupvisa.mise.gov.it/ "The Italian Government policy to attract innovative entrepreneurs from all over the world"
assbot: Italia Startup Visa | main page ... ( http://bit.ly/1yeHHLo )
punkman: "a KPMG report recently stated that “Made in Italy” is the 3rd best known brand in the world."
mircea_popescu: they probably just intend to pickpocket them.
punkman: big time
punkman: "certified incubator"
mircea_popescu: well, rome, capital of the rroma people.
assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9OTFV )
fluffypony: [09:06:09] <@Stalker>I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT
fluffypony: [09:06:17] <@Stalker>Cosplay is modelling for the ugly girls
fluffypony: !bash 2
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony they're more often fat than ugly, to put a... fine point on it.
punkman: they hire professional models to cosplay in all the conventions these days
mircea_popescu: howrysheeit look at it! mom, i made the papers!
mircea_popescu: "Sometimes, rom and romani are spelled with a double r, i.e., rrom and rromani. In this case rr is used to represent the phoneme /ʀ/ (also written as ř and rh), which in some Romani dialects has remained different from the one written with a single r. " << actually, this is incorrect.
mircea_popescu: the source of the double r in writing is that right at the time gypsies decided to yet again rename in the early 90s, there was circulating on romanian TV a reading of a caragiale novel (romani verzi) mocking a very nutty sort of nationalism current in his time, that was being read in a particularrrrr manerrrr by a certain comedian.
mircea_popescu: this was immediately and universally applied to what was perceived as a silly and pompous notion of the minority in question.
BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski
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assbot: It’s time for post-post-modernity to mature or perish. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9RVtO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: contravex: now sporting new quippy comment thingies on the sidebar!
BingoBoingo: !up qntranet
BingoBoingo: Hello qntranet
mircea_popescu: so mucxh voice.
BingoBoingo: How are you?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski funny how scoopbot dies half hour before you come in lol
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu lol well scoopbot and i never really saw eye to eye
pete_dushenski: just ask peterl
pete_dushenski: the thing refused to recognise my extistence
mircea_popescu: mebbe it has a crash on oyu.
pete_dushenski: which is fine by me, i don't need no stinkin' bot taking my job!
BingoBoingo: O.o PeterL does scoopbot want to fuck other Pete???
pete_dushenski: it's all out war
assbot: An Undercover Agent Was Making $1000 a Week in Bitcoin as a Silk Road Admin | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2Fzpt )
fluffypony: 'Dread Pirate Roberts, or DRP, used the username “dread,”'
fluffypony: because acronyms are hard
mircea_popescu: iirc saw that in teh logs.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu for no other reason than that i've observed it, i have to say that your blogs have been kinder and gentler of late
mircea_popescu: apparently one admin was actually undercover agent, the official story now goes
BingoBoingo: That's been they story for well over a month nao
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the fact that i can't tell if you're straight or sarcastic is telling
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but not originally.
pete_dushenski: so, so telling
mircea_popescu: so which was it ?
pete_dushenski: i'm being straight!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well originally in law Defense lawyer could have said no legally observed evil, but... evil judge...
pete_dushenski: i can probably attribute a chunk of this to the acclimatisation process
pete_dushenski: my lungs have adapted to the air up here
pete_dushenski: the shock has worn off perhaps
pete_dushenski: just as the "oh noes how come the education system never taught us xyz and instead pulled the wool over our eyes" reaction is weakening
mircea_popescu: "The men who murdered Virginia's original twenty-six cemetery-occupants were never punished. Why? Because Alfred the Great, when he invented trial by jury and knew that he had admirably framed it to secure justice in his age of the world, was not aware that in the nineteenth century the condition of things would be so entirely changed that unless he rose from the grave and altered the jury plan to meet the emergency, i
mircea_popescu: t would prove the most ingenious and infallible agency for defeating justice that human wisdom could contrive. For how could he imagine that we simpletons would go on using his jury plan after circumstances had stripped it of its usefulness, any more than he could imagine that we would go on using his candle-clock after we had invented chronometers? In his day news could not travel fast, and hence he could easily find
mircea_popescu: a jury of honest, intelligent men who had not heard of the case they were called to try—but in our day of telegraphs and newspapers his plan compels us to swear in juries composed of fools and rascals, because the system rigidly excludes honest men and men of brains."
BingoBoingo: "Laws, not men" bas birthed more evil than any other construction
mircea_popescu: srsly, twain was complaining of it.
BingoBoingo still finds "failed" tagalog a potentially more fruitful endeavor than that Chicom pidgin
BingoBoingo: !up moldysnizz
moldysnizz: hey bingo!
moldysnizz: How's it been?
BingoBoingo: Not bad
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00042219 = 19.3363 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: GoFundMe Tops Kickstarter as World’s #1 Crowdfunding Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8O0Jf )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 31(Y):69(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,836.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1750 @ 0.00058 = 1.015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1750 @ 0.00058 = 1.015 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00041483 = 9.3752 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5900 @ 0.00058605 = 3.4577 BTC [+] {6}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8980 @ 0.00041483 = 3.7252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65800 @ 0.00040988 = 26.9701 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56820 @ 0.0004091 = 23.2451 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68970 @ 0.0004061 = 28.0087 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19477 @ 0.00040227 = 7.835 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63234 @ 0.00042192 = 26.6797 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63234 @ 0.00042192 = 26.6797 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 23(Y):77(N) by weight. Total bet: 39.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,811.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37534 @ 0.00042072 = 15.7913 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22027 @ 0.00044004 = 9.6928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2049 @ 0.00058467 = 1.198 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3490 @ 0.00058356 = 2.0366 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymScZX )
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yea it'll be on the editor's desk today sometime. no use fighting sleep debt, which has been paid in full.
BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/1yfICLG )
BingoBoingo: !up viorels
davout: BingoBoingo: hah
mats: http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf The Mathematics Community and the NSA
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: kid has a lot to learn eh?
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
BingoBoingo: !up sinetek
BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW
gabriel_laddel: from The Mathematics Community and the NSA "Mathematician are leading the way to design and implement the algorithms that create this rising tide. Here we share many common interests with industry: e.g., big data analytics, cloud computing, machine learning and advanced search. So-called metadata (intelligence information that can be ascertained without examining the actual content of a communication) plays a big ro
gabriel_laddel: le here, as our governing rules generally do not permit deep inspection when the apertuse into our data set widens. Getting this right is paramount: the average NSA mathematician takes fourteen courses each yer to be up-to-date on the procedures that govern these activities."
gabriel_laddel: Because that is how you go about attracting the best mathematicians, big data and boring classes to keep up to date on the law.
davout: lol
gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14.
gabriel_laddel: I've got to wonder if they draw straws and a few poor bastards get stuck taking all the classes.
Apocalyptic: mats, thanks for the link
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041109 = 11.3461 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd?
BingoBoingo: Seems to be the case
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: It seems to be the case that we're waiting?
BingoBoingo: I didn't say that.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: Well I'm not sure how else to read that.
BingoBoingo: Well, there's the other clause in your question.
davout: wasn't kakobrekla working on sthg?
gabriel_laddel: well yes, but you're response doesn't clarify.
davout: i would clarify if i had clarity :)
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BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Because I lack clarity too. But a something seems to be happening.
kakobrekla: yeah its almost complete.
jurov: eta 2 weeks
assbot: some gripes about nacl ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCvRbi )
davout: jurov: you forgot the (tm)
davout: kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D
kakobrekla: asswot
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BingoBoingo: !s bitcoin
assbot: 23025 results for 'bitcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoin
BingoBoingo: !s ass
assbot: 1135 results for 'ass' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass
BingoBoingo: Huh, I thought that might be flipped
TomServo: Can you share any details?
BingoBoingo: !s ass*
assbot: 280758 results for 'ass*' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass%2A
BingoBoingo: Ah, much better
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: AMIA prosecutor accuses CFK, Timerman of 'covering up' Iran's involvement in bombing - BuenosAiresHerald.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCD8bk )
thestringpuller: you get my reply mircea_popescu :P
thestringpuller: via da logz
mircea_popescu: didnt look yet
mircea_popescu: mats >> it's on qntra even.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14. << i expect it's just a shortcut to pay them better.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd? << kakobrekla has been, for a while now
mircea_popescu: davout: kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D << wot capabilit yintegration into assbot!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller ic!
mircea_popescu: news waits for no man, mr.
mircea_popescu: @ ethereum reddit.
assbot: An Extortionist Has Been Making Life Hell for Bitcoin's Earliest Adopters | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCIS4M )
mircea_popescu: lolwut ?! finney was dead wasn't he ?!
davout: mircea_popescu: that was before he died
mircea_popescu: wow. i thought i had read eulogies and everything
mircea_popescu: ty for that made my head spin for a minute
mircea_popescu: "Roger Ver, another early bitcoin adopter, believes he was victimized by the same person the week before the Finney family was swatted. That’s when someone using the names Nitrous and Savaged hacked into Ver’s email accounts and demanded that he cough up 37 bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: lmao roger ver is such an exercise in tramp
davout: mircea_popescu: x.eur pl0x
[]bot: Bet created: "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/
assbot: Swiss central bank shocks markets with currency 'tsunami'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCKYla )
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/ Odds: 0(Y):100(N) by coin, 0(Y):100(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,998.
mats: i wonder how they plan to manage domestic deflation
mircea_popescu: by not caring.
mircea_popescu: if you mean the swiss
davout: mats: in what way would it be a problem? exports?
mats: for the swiss, inflation is 0%, some interbank rates are negative, oil is falling, and this move will probably drop imports 10%+
mircea_popescu: they're too well integrated with euro to actually care.
assbot: I know, I know, /hashtag/firstworldproblems?src=hash, but flying coach just blows. Thanks /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash. (Then again, Miami awaits!)
mats: lol
assbot: Transaction Fees and the Future of Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCNPuq )
assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCO9JL )
TomServo: Does scoopbot need to be replaced? It seems to often be MIA.
mircea_popescu: davout shoulkd be there.
davout: tyvm
mircea_popescu: TomServo well ideally it'd have to be fixed,
mircea_popescu: but if that doesn't woirk i guess it'll have to be replaced.
mircea_popescu: ivreally wish people were a LOT more open with the problems they have. if there's one time to be all over this place, it's then.
mircea_popescu: the alternative of "it dun work and i'm mia" pretty much the worst possible approach.
TomServo: Oh - I thought it was working (aside from contravex), but just having trouble staying online.
mircea_popescu: i dunno anymore than you do on the topic.
mircea_popescu: just what i see in logs.
TomServo: If it just needs a more stable home I can probably help.
mircea_popescu: yeah but we dunno what it needs or what's going on, and so can't help.
TomServo: I forgot who ran it, but reach out if I can lend a hand!
mircea_popescu: i will next i see 'em.
assbot: Denmark mulls new EU-defying session-logging law • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCTIb2 )
davout: TomServo: peterl runs it iirc
BingoBoingo: Now the Danish Parliament looks set to reintroduce the obligation, despite an evaluation of its effectiveness showing only one case out of around 24 trillion registrations where it had actually helped police
BingoBoingo: ^ lulzy shit
mircea_popescu: this pretense that shit like "denmark" even have the power to legislate.
mircea_popescu: gtfo, you're a municipal council. stick to peeling chewinggum off the sidewalk and debating what uniform to put the parking meter chicks in.
assbot: The NBA’s Golden Age of Innovation Is Coming -- NYMag ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICxmui )
mircea_popescu: you know, the ironic bit here is that... ceausescu called his epic fail "epoca de aur". teh golden age of ballooning.
mircea_popescu: SNB Chairman Thomas Jordan denied at a news conference that the move amounted to a "panic reaction", saying the cap had been scrapped because it was unsustainable. "If you decide to exit such a policy, you have to take the markets by surprise," Jordan said. << quite.
mircea_popescu: one can't maintain arbitrary caps like that.
TomServo: davout: Thanks, I'll drop a line.
mircea_popescu: one shouldn't even try, but hey.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 151 @ 0.00689999 = 1.0419 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 172 @ 0.00689999 = 1.1868 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: ""I've never seen such a drop in one go, it's huge. People will probably be buying euros, but also dollars and other currencies," said one UBS teller, after selling euros to a Russian client."
mircea_popescu: orly ? people are goinmg to BUY dollars because they're worthless ?
mircea_popescu: and are going to SELL stuff like RUB ? what "people" are these people ?
mircea_popescu: "Fitch's managing director of sovereign ratings Ed Parker said the move would not affect Switzerland's top-grade rating." ahahahaha jesus fucking christ.
mircea_popescu: tell me if it's going to affect the us's top rating, derps.
BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski
BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW
davout: BingoBoingo: the third's face is creepy
pete_dushenski: guten morgen!
davout: ohai
BingoBoingo: davout: Deer probably find your "I'm fucking" face creepy too
davout: i never really had the occasion to make a butseks-a-guy-who-sekses-up-some-chick face so i guess that's an unknown for now
BingoBoingo: Well...
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BingoBoingo: !up bigtip
BingoBoingo: !up viorels
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/un-mic-exercitiu/ << so if anyone feels like delving into romanian, this is me doing journalism school in 2010. comments moar valuable htan article as per usual.
assbot: Un mic exercitiu. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xtmeas )
davout: mircea_popescu: at first i was like 'Be that as it may'
davout: but then 'Be that as it may, consider ca am cam obtinut ce am dorit prin comentariile(adevarat, exasperant de incalcite) prin care autorul completeaza sau clarifica unele sectiuni mai gri.'
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mats: i have recently discovered grocery delivery
mats: it is amazeeng
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mats preps a pound of walnuts for roasting with honey and cinnamon
mircea_popescu: davout it's right.
mats: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.23, vol: 91288.38996660 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.0, vol: 54412.72426 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 209279.78459044 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 219.71, vol: 41.24919397 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 211.4035, vol: 354868.10020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 210.22177, vol: 158.71142587 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 222.738329988, vol: 180.853045 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
ben_vulpes: buenas terroristas
mircea_popescu: "An individual who owned twenty feet in the Ophir mine before its great riches were revealed to men, traded it for a horse, and a very sorry looking brute he was, too. A year or so afterward, when Ophir stock went up to $3,000 a foot, this man, who had not a cent, used to say he was the most startling example of magnificence and misery the world had ever seen—because he was able to ride a sixty-thousand-dollar horse
mircea_popescu: —yet could not scrape up cash enough to buy a saddle, and was obliged to borrow one or ride bareback. He said if fortune were to give him another sixty-thousand-dollar horse it would ruin him."
mircea_popescu: check it out! kako's golf used to be a horse.
ben_vulpes: riding bareback's not *so* bad...
ben_vulpes never did it for more than a few hours tho
ben_vulpes: and i did have a blanket thinger
mircea_popescu: it's not feasible long term.
mircea_popescu: run both you and the horse bloody.
ben_vulpes: not good capital equipment maintenance.
ben_vulpes: man i want some horses!
ben_vulpes: that's capital equipment that makes more capital equipment.
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mircea_popescu: talk to davout iirc he was looking to start a farm.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}
ben_vulpes: davout: doing it in france
ben_vulpes: in other news, i have to put up a notice to my employees that my company bears unemployment insurance. this is all standard practice, but it irks me that the responsibility for educating people about their rights falls to me.
ben_vulpes: it's this sneaky tax, basically.
ben_vulpes: "we're going to pass a law, and then make the people who actually get shit done teach the proles about it."
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what you imagine the point of a company is if not educate its workers.
ben_vulpes: er, worker's compensation. not unemployment.
ben_vulpes: we educate plenty!
ben_vulpes: but being told to educate on a thing of such triviality and irrelevance to the business is loathsome.
ben_vulpes: i must hang a poster.
mthreat: i think i've seen those in the bathroom
ben_vulpes: a vile red and blue poster.
mircea_popescu: so you're really after the political statement that it is a business owner's own right and privilege to educate whatever he sees fit, and the intermeddling of some "state" is at best unwelcome ?
mircea_popescu: how goes mthreat ?
mthreat: not bad
ben_vulpes: i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster.
mircea_popescu: saw teh flood ?
mthreat: not sure, in BsAs?
mircea_popescu: yeah, libertador was under a foot of water coupla days ago
mircea_popescu: suddenly the car was afloat lol.
mthreat: oh.. no I hadn't
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster. << sign under it that says "Do not deface poster" should both result in defaced posted while still counting as a reasonable precaution
mthreat: ya.. i've seen minor versions of that. drainage FTW
mircea_popescu: it can really pour here.
mthreat: flash floods are fairly common in central texas too
mthreat: people always trying to drive through it and drowning
mircea_popescu: lol. "o, there's a problem ? let's ignore it maybe it goes away".
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mircea_popescu: college was not for naught!
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ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] mebbe it has a crash on oyu. << ouch.
ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: what's up with your keytuation?
pete_dushenski: uh nothing much
pete_dushenski: just waiting for assbot
pete_dushenski: that'll show those holiday-takers!
assbot: Target To Exit Canada « CBS Minnesota ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2Lm2p )
pete_dushenski: there's no room in this town for a retailer that hangs its hat on faux francais pronunciation of its name
pete_dushenski: you don't see simon's pulling the nasal "n" card
pete_dushenski: anyone read bruce bueno de mesquita ?
pete_dushenski: he was recommended by a commenter on contravex and his writings looks to be pretty on point
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pete_dushenski: Some $12 trillion in new money has been created since the global financial crisis by the major central banks in a broad attempt to bolster hobbled banking systems, ease debt service and revive a damaged global economy. << deflation, surely, is right around the corner
mircea_popescu: terrorist redpiller pedophile racist
pete_dushenski: sounds aboot right
mircea_popescu: are you threatening me ?!?!
pete_dushenski goes to order some future contraband
pete_dushenski: me? never!
mircea_popescu: i need progress for my bunghole
pete_dushenski: ya, it's smearing everywhere
pete_dushenski: quite the mess you've made
asciilifeform: http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf << required reading for all shitgnomologists. 'we're not sorry, but we're sorry we got caught.'
pete_dushenski: A man who portrayed himself as a member of a wealthy Pakistani family and was often seen driving luxury cars including a Ferrari faces sentencing in a multimillion-dollar investment scam involving three former Miami Heat players and the team itself. << as if the donald sterling shmozzle wasn't embarrassing enough for the nba
pete_dushenski: it's the the major pro sports in the us are trying to out-retard each other
pete_dushenski: "no our players and fans our stupider!"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo writing up this one ?
assbot: Crowti Cryptowall 3.0 Ransomware Moving in I2P Network | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6yEpQ )
pete_dushenski: Zafar convinced Miller to give him $2.6 million, Lewis to give him $4 million and Jones to give him $1.5 million, all for an investment opportunity that Zafar said would "quickly obtain a significant return." But rather than reimburse the Miami Heat or three individuals, Zafar used the money "for his personal use and benefit,"
pete_dushenski: Zafar's attorney has said his client pleaded guilty to accept responsibility and move forward with his life. << he'd better. it also ties into this week's pleabargain convo
assbot: Sentencing scheduled in multimillion-dollar Miami Heat fraud - Yahoo Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6z6EJ )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: de rien
pete_dushenski: through the first 11 months of 2014, Prius sales were down nearly 16% compared with the prior year.
pete_dushenski: but global warming!
pete_dushenski: "What happened? The short answer is: cheap gas prices."
pete_dushenski: "with $2 gas being commonplace, the Prius is only viewed as a smart financial choice by drivers “who stink at math.”"
pete_dushenski: " among other reasons, its fuel efficiency advantage over the competition has shrunk substantially, and Tesla has emerged as the green car of choice that’s not only environmentally friendly, but stylish and a rip-roaring hoot to drive as well."
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pete_dushenski: "The cachet of the Prius has dissipated in the years since because,"
pete_dushenski: damn that shit's too funny
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: funny how clarkson called the prius out for being a poser's turd back in 07 or whatever
pete_dushenski: and pointed out that the battery required rare earths from all over creation and was therefore, cradle to cradle, less enviromentally conscientious
pete_dushenski: and now, go figure that clarkson is all wooed by the i8
thestringpuller: oh lookie lookie a pete_dushenski
thestringpuller: having fun at degrassi jr. high?
thestringpuller: !up bigtip
assbot: BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller me and drizzy ;)
thestringpuller: oh yea canadians do have drake
thestringpuller: i say he makes up for justin bieber
thestringpuller: so this chick was down here in the studio my friend interned at
thestringpuller: some 15 year old chick polow da don was trying to pimp (of throw's some d's on it fame)
thestringpuller: anyhow she was at one of Drake's parties and Bieber was there
thestringpuller: and Drake really doesn't like Bieber, but somehow kid shows up anywas
thestringpuller: So Drake starts rolling a blunt and won't pass it to Bieber
thestringpuller: and Bieber has a straight up temper trantrum
pete_dushenski: men only
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: ^amhash1 getting pretty close to 50% of ipo value.
pete_dushenski: has it been 6 months already?
thestringpuller: should be a metric of how quick Mining bonds depreciate in value
thestringpuller: or maybe there just shouldn't be mining bonds at all ~_~
pete_dushenski: so it looks like sony doesn't want to be the hardware company that goes down in horrible flames racing to the bottom
pete_dushenski: they're releasing a $1200 walkman!
pete_dushenski: 150mb songs
pete_dushenski: for supah megah qualité
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller there is a metric, see trilema
pete_dushenski: 50% in 6 months
thestringpuller: which trilema
thestringpuller: as trilema is a library with no dewey decimal
pete_dushenski: mighta been pmb's
pete_dushenski: (perpetual mining bonds)
thestringpuller: that 1200 dollar walkman just looks like a glorified flac player
thestringpuller: wut 4. audiophiles rip vinyl to walkman?
pete_dushenski: i mostly just like that it's at least trying to be premium
pete_dushenski: and not just in an lv gucci prada way
pete_dushenski: and why not rip vinyl to walkman?
pete_dushenski: not like you have a vinyl player in your camry
pete_dushenski: or at the coffee shop
pete_dushenski: or out on a walk
kakobrekla: in case you missed it
assbot: Defense's alternative theory seems to be that MARK KARPELES OF MT GOX and one other were the real DPR. /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash
fluffypony: Karpeles getting blamed for errthing
assbot: To be clear, everyone, defense has NOT made the argument Mark Karpeles was DPR, instead got a DHS agent to admit he was a suspect
TomServo: wat, nowai
ben_vulpes: <mats> [] i have recently discovered grocery delivery << i like it too, except i just have lady v do it
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thestringpuller: stop being a sexist ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: baby girl's on payroll
ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker
mats: you're cool
ben_vulpes: i ain't sexist
ben_vulpes: i'm an employah
kakobrekla: me too
kakobrekla: even got her a no-show job.
thestringpuller: what is a no show job?
mats: being on payroll without working
thestringpuller: so communism?
ben_vulpes: well it's my personal payroll as opposed to the company payroll, assholes
thestringpuller: so ben_vulpes lets his wife indulge in socialism?
ben_vulpes: but as soon as i figure out the non profit hustle in the states i'm going to get myself a lobbying job
mats: wat
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: more like, i indulge in capitalism
mats: how much does a gigolo cost these days?
ben_vulpes: this involves buying what i want.
asciilifeform: lol, we all keep pets ?
ben_vulpes: husbandry, right up there in the list of ancient professions.
assbot: vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/17Ms6ad )
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes swiss franc
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2015 20:12:53; kakobrekla: https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png
davout: good evening!
kakobrekla: ^^ re chf, a few folks committed suicide today cause of it.
kakobrekla: and a few banks will close in the following months.
kakobrekla: they will try to hide it first.
kakobrekla: also some fx brokerages closed.
kakobrekla: like a nuke fell.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug << aww that';s so cute
davout: kakobrekla: dat swan. such black.
mircea_popescu: but is it driving adoption ?
davout: there was antonopoulos' ama on the driving adoption side
davout: :D
kakobrekla: well, there will be more orphans so i perhaps more adoptions
mircea_popescu: "our plan to drive adoption is twofold : first, make a lot of people off themselves. their thus orphaned offspring, will, necessarily, be adopted. we will endeavour to drive as many as possible, but some might have to walk."
davout: first question: "waddaya think about block size"
mircea_popescu: davout this because clearly the fork won't fail, but contrairiwise
davout: he said things should be fixed when they actually become a problem
mircea_popescu: not bad for a dead man.
davout: aka "next question please"
mircea_popescu: so what, o'reilly smelled the gunpowder and is splitting from the scam foundation ? or are they actually yielding in corpore but still trying to protect gavin's head from my platter ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: pretty lulzy if true << not as much a matter of true as a matter of holy shit, that trial will be a coin toss. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#976369 still curtious on that point.
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2015 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.
davout: meanwhile, bitcoin foundation's executive director on twitter... https://twitter.com/virtuallylaw/status/555829864075243521
assbot: /petertoddbtc got it. I'd take it with many grains of salt. That would be nuts...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker <<< burlesque dancer, escort ?
ben_vulpes: does escort me around myeah :D
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assbot: The Failure of a Past Basic Income Guarantee, the Speenhamland System | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE1wNB )
assbot: Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2b1u )
assbot: X.EUR January 15th 2015 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2dql )
davout: so far the best investment in january: +64%
asciilifeform: ^ again repeats the 'no inherent value' crock of shit
kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy.
kakobrekla: no article about that eh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]
assbot: NSA employee will continue to co-chair influential crypto standards group | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE5DcG )
kakobrekla: o looks like ukto/ukyo is in jail
kakobrekla: twist: not for bitcoin fraud.
assbot: Bitcoin Trader Accused of Murder Says He Was Tied Up, Forced to Sell Stocks - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE8rGJ )
jurov: ^ that's about ukyo?
kakobrekla: afaik not
thestringpuller: where is the utko news then?
joecool: ;;gpg info ukyo
gribble: No such user registered.
thestringpuller: ;;gpg info utko
gribble: No such user registered.
thestringpuller: ;;gpg info ukto
gribble: User 'ukto', with keyid 61D2F81E4BFEEF11, fingerprint 004467FBE2285A57978AA34A61D2F81E4BFEEF11, and bitcoin address None, registered on Tue Jun 14 22:19:01 2011, last authed on Sun Sep 4 11:57:45 2011. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=ukto . Currently not authenticated.
assbot: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEbYEK )
kakobrekla: a month old.
kakobrekla: anyway bbl.
jurov: "After taking the rate into negative territory last month for the first time since the 1970s, it cut another 0.5 percentage points on Thursday to -0.75 percent"
jurov: "it cut"
ben_vulpes: first
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mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/OEC7s6Y.jpg << check out "the man responsible" lolz
mircea_popescu: lol gotta love the forum derps. "o hai we're here in the swamp isolated from the goings on in bitcoin. how come we have nfi what's going on ???"
mircea_popescu: uh i dunno...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not << depends on the definition of guaranteed job. guaranteed payments are always inflationary - that's the very definition of inflation : payment without a counterprestation. jobs however can be guaranteed in such a way that prestation is at the same time guaranteed, at least theoretically.
mircea_popescu: consider my alt economy where the currency is teeth. every person can be guaranteed a job as selftooth extractor, paying 30 teeth over their lifetime.
mircea_popescu: now, irl the cow's not spherical nor does it live in a vacuum, but hey.
mircea_popescu: washington post article is especially niggardly, which is what one'd expect from the vanguard of us socialism. "o noes, if you look at just this portion of the graph, bitcoin has been falling".
mircea_popescu: guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.
assbot: GHC Interactive Stock Chart | Yahoo! Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3cj0q )
mircea_popescu: Matt O'Brien is a reporter for Wonkblog covering economic affairs. He was previously a senior associate editor at The Atlantic. He is also an idiot soon to be permanently unemployed.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy. << well... that's a point there, canada totally is a ponzi scheme.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, in what sense is CFRG/ietf influential ?
mircea_popescu: gavin isn't quitting the scam foundation either, and obviously the msm would present it as "influential". what's it influence, reddit ?
cazalla waves fists at scoopbot
assbot: It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3d8Xc )
mircea_popescu: easy, but unproductive.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg << 'influential' in the sense of perfect position for slow and subtle shitgnomification of various protocols
assbot: Active IETF Working Groups ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dxZs )
assbot: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3dJbg )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know anyone is actually using their protocols for serious work anymore than anyone'd be using the foundation crapolade for any serious work.
assbot: xiando +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
thestringpuller: Dr. Popescu
mircea_popescu: It was a driving, vigorous, restless population in those days. It was a curious population. It was the only population of the kind that the world has ever seen gathered together, and it is not likely that the world will ever see its like again. For observe, it was an assemblage of two hundred thousand young men—not simpering, dainty, kid-gloved weaklings, but stalwart, muscular, dauntless young braves, brimful of pus
mircea_popescu: h and energy, and royally endowed with every attribute that goes to make up a peerless and magnificent manhood—the very pick and choice of the world's glorious ones. No women, no children, no gray and stooping veterans,—none but erect, bright-eyed, quick-moving, strong-handed young giants—the strangest population, the finest population, the most gallant host that ever trooped down the startled solitudes of an unp
mircea_popescu: eopled land. And where are they now? Scattered to the ends of the earth—or prematurely aged and decrepit—or shot or stabbed in street affrays—or dead of disappointed hopes and broken hearts—all gone, or nearly all—victims devoted upon the altar of the golden calf—the noblest holocaust that ever wafted its sacrificial incense heavenward. It is pitiful to think upon.
Apocalyptic: cazalla, "That that article"
mircea_popescu: It was a splendid population—for all the slow, sleepy, sluggish-brained sloths staid at home—you never find that sort of people among pioneers—you cannot build pioneers out of that sort of material. It was that population that gave to California a name for getting up astounding enterprises and rushing them through with a magnificent dash and daring and a recklessness of cost or consequences, which she bears unto
mircea_popescu: this day—and when she projects a new surprise, the grave world smiles as usual, and says "Well, that is California all over."
mircea_popescu: check it out! i found what vc's are trying to live off today! a ~150 year old corpse!
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cazalla: Apocalyptic, reads OK to me
mircea_popescu: PeterL ppl's be bitching bout scoopbot all day. wha happened ?
PeterL: dunno, seems it lost its connection to irc
PeterL: TomServo here?
Apocalyptic: myeah, altought it's not the most fortunate sentence construction
assbot: Silk Road Trial: Defense Says Mt. Gox CEO Is the Real Drug Lord  ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5JTnh )
mircea_popescu: they revolutionized the www
mircea_popescu: such lulz
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Apocalyptic: "Der-Yeghiayan testified that his own investigation had found that Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered silkroadmarket.org as a means to publicize the site further."
mircea_popescu: Something very important happened. The property holders of Nevada voted against the State Constitution; but the folks who had nothing to lose were in the majority, and carried the measure over their heads. But after all it did not immediately look like a disaster, though unquestionably it was one I hesitated, calculated the chances, and then concluded not to sell. Stocks went on rising; speculation went mad; bankers, m
mircea_popescu: erchants, lawyers, doctors, mechanics, laborers, even the very washerwomen and servant girls, were putting up their earnings on silver stocks, and every sun that rose in the morning went down on paupers enriched and rich men beggared. What a gambling carnival it was! Gould and Curry soared to six thousand three hundred dollars a foot! And then—all of a sudden, out went the bottom and everything and everybody went to
mircea_popescu: ruin and destruction! The wreck was complete.
mircea_popescu: The bubble scarcely left a microscopic moisture behind it. I was an early beggar and a thorough one. My hoarded stocks were not worth the paper they were printed on. I threw them all away. I, the cheerful idiot that had been squandering money like water, and thought myself beyond the reach of misfortune, had not now as much as fifty dollars when I gathered together my various debts and paid them. I removed from the hot
mircea_popescu: el to a very private boarding house. I took a reporter's berth and went to work. I was not entirely broken in spirit, for I was building confidently on the sale of the silver mine in the east. But I could not hear from Dan. My letters miscarried or were not answered.
mircea_popescu: what a fortunate thing it is that in bitcoin, unlike in the united states, men with no means have no vote.
thestringpuller: stop disenfranching the poor mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: im not disenfranchising them. i merely don't value their arbitrary enfranchisement more than i value a paper fixing new orbits for the solar system.
thestringpuller: but don't you want more adoption?!?
PeterL: when they adopt bitcoin they gets some say
TomServo: PeterL: Allo
PeterL: allo
PeterL: you say you might be able to help with hosting scoopbot?
TomServo: Sure
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assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3AZFKA2.txt )
assbot: "Some people think I'm nice & are shocked when they find out different. I'm not a nice person, & I don't care about you." --Linus /hashtag/lca2015?src=hash
mircea_popescu: guy gets it.
mircea_popescu: o wb scoopbot
mircea_popescu: PeterL wha was the issue with it ?
PeterL: I'm still trying to figure out
PeterL: yesterday my host went down, not sure why bot stopped today
PeterL: I'm going to try hacking in an autorestart again
mircea_popescu: if you can use cpanel i can set you up momentarily.
PeterL: oh?
mircea_popescu: all you gotta do is ask and generally, explain what the problems are you know.
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: seems to work better as time goes on and more resources are available :P
thestringpuller: except sleep
thestringpuller: can't seem to get enough of that
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thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: i'm addicted to docker
thestringpuller: trying to learn how to run supervisord
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asciilifeform: 'fun' discovery of the day. freebsd 'tmpfs' created under kernel built with gcc will not be mounted by kernel built with llvm.
asciilifeform: this is (almost certainly, i did not check but it seems like a no-brainer) on account of those parts of c which are not in fact standardized in any meaningful way (e.g., 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout)
asciilifeform: ergo llvm is a piece of shit, though it works and is internally consistent (presumably) - by the same logic, i would argue, as 'gavincoin' is a spurious turd
asciilifeform: in that it presents as meeting a certain set of expectations, which are violated six times every morning before breakfast, and rest assured the authors will say 'no matter'
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is an issue first documented in (afaik, at least as early as) 2011, and remains unpatched. because actually fixing would require that one side 'surrender'
asciilifeform: i.e., accept the layouts of the other.
asciilifeform: very interestingly, there is scarcely any discussion of this matter on the net, besides two or three single-paragraph forum posts.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: no!
ben_vulpes: no supervisord
ben_vulpes: one process per container
ben_vulpes: docker run -d to daemonize the proc in container
BingoBoingo: !up moldysnizz
moldysnizz: Well, hi there.
BingoBoingo: !up mike_c
mike_c: down, down! first time in forever i can auth myself :)
BingoBoingo: !down mike_c
mike_c: ah, nice to have all the robots back.
assbot: I have black on white proof of Mark Karpeles making multiple death threats against an ex-employee. So does Japanese police. /hashtag/RossUlbricht?src=hash
ben_vulpes: (black and white, but whatever)
BingoBoingo: Make be the proof really is black on white.
Apocalyptic: funny thing
Apocalyptic: "<mtgox555> [03:19:56] Ashley Barr is a guy who worked at MtGox who lived in (White Rock) Vancouver. DPR is quoted to wanting a guy in White Rock murdered"
Apocalyptic: ben_vulpes, he's french
ben_vulpes: shitty excuse if you ask me
Apocalyptic: probably a literal translation of "noir sur blanc" as the idiomatic expression goes
ben_vulpes: no but you see american english is the only english
Apocalyptic: you're a language terrorist nao ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, sent each of you an email
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout << struct fo sho
mircea_popescu: cool deal cazalla
mircea_popescu: PeterL: X-Failed-Recipients: peter-at-btcscoop.com
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) hQQOAy/yVjmzb - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bzjw9R )
assbot: By the way, here's my 2013 interview with Silk Road's DPR that the DHS told a judge "sounds very much like Karpeles" http://t.co/ZFOtAXLbXL
BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski
thestringpuller: yay for canadians
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: south park-ified would have an egg head lol
thestringpuller: "canadian head" like ike
pete_dushenski: the ponziest of lands!
pete_dushenski: stupid chf! thx for blowing our cover guise!
mircea_popescu: well... you got a pension system right ? just like the us ?
mircea_popescu: that's a ponzi right there.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller now there would be a caricature :)
pete_dushenski: pension and then some
assbot: Linus Torvalds on why he isn’t nice: “I don’t care about you” | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3rRp )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu so naturally the fees on canada's pension scheme have been escalating of late. it was once 1% of income, now up to 4% or something
mircea_popescu not about to click on more arstechnica etc. qntra or bust.
joecool: BingoBoingo: put it up again in a week when buzzfeed gets it
assbot: Knowing when to head for the exits is how the rich stay rich. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3Int )
BingoBoingo: !up btcgrok
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski best header so far.
mircea_popescu: make VEX allcaps ultrathick.
mircea_popescu: and get rid of that idiotic one inch white atop the header.
pete_dushenski: the colour pops eh? but ya, the "vex" is too quiet...
decimation: asciilifeform: what does it mean that Dr. Wertheimer decided to post his 'apology' in the AMS journal?
asciilifeform: decimation: nsa is the largest employer of folks with any type of maths degree in usa.
asciilifeform: decimation: whether this constitutes 'meaning' - i do not know.
decimation: so this is a tacit admission that they can't hire anymore?
assbot: SpaceX Problem Falcon9 Crash Landing - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub4fWp )
asciilifeform: decimation: unlikely
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes bad gaskets ?
assbot: /alankerlin Hydraulics are usually closed, but that adds mass vs short acting open systems. F9 fins only work for 4 mins. We were ~10% off.
ben_vulpes: if you have to carry the shit use on the way down, why...
ben_vulpes: perhaps the add'l costs of sealed systems?
ben_vulpes: grid fins are interesting.
decimation: actually if the rocket lands 'face up', won't the fins be facing the 'wrong way'?
decimation: seems like you would want vectored thrust
ben_vulpes: these fins are at the top of the stage.
decimation: ah interesting
ben_vulpes: passively stable control problem.
ben_vulpes: decimation: i think they *do* have vectored thrust, but the relight operation is risky and adds complexity to reentry trajectory.
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: docker is like being a kid at christmas all over again
thestringpuller: what base image do you use for python apps?
ben_vulpes: debian:6
ben_vulpes: (hue)
ben_vulpes: ubuntu, typically.
ben_vulpes: if biting off the braindamage, why not eat all layers of the cake.
decimation: ben_vulpes: ah, it seems they also have external retrorockets
decimation: probably solid fuel
ben_vulpes: decimation: "probably" << based on what?
ben_vulpes: SRBs are not (afaik) extinguishable, relightable or throttleable.
ben_vulpes: this leaves you with vectoring which is...not really enough for the task at hand.
decimation: from your article: "In September 2013, SpaceX successfully fired boosters as the rocket fell to Earth, slowing it down so it could land softly."
decimation: so I interpret 'boosters' as 'external retro packs'
decimation: but the guy who wrote it could be a 'tard
ben_vulpes: decimation: which link?
decimation: the businessinsider article
ben_vulpes: i'm only seeing two occurences of the string "slow" and neither in the context you quoted.
assbot: SpaceX Reuseable Falcon 9 Ocean Landing - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub56X3 )
mircea_popescu: of course that'd be exactly opposite of boosting.
ben_vulpes: hush you, it's a sign change.
decimation: indeed
mircea_popescu: npw i finally understand what they mean by boosting the economy.
mircea_popescu: busting.
decimation: http://www.spacex.com/news/2013/10/14/upgraded-falcon-9-mission-overview < that link describes the actual relight sequence for the inital test
assbot: Upgraded Falcon 9 Mission Overview | SpaceX ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub5apI )
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ben_vulpes: read the linked article, decimation
ben_vulpes: business insider is, unsurprisingly, unable to parse straightforward rocket engineering reports.
ben_vulpes: a) not a booster
ben_vulpes: b) leave britney alone
mircea_popescu: i dunno why you ppls keep reading/linking this crud, srsly. they're broken, we know they're broken... i guess it's decent comedy
ben_vulpes: who's broken? what's broken?
mircea_popescu: business outsider.
mircea_popescu: arsderpica.
mircea_popescu: faker. whatever.
ben_vulpes: they do quote reddit as sources now
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: https://github.com/urbit/sample-apps
assbot: urbit/sample-apps · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub5xk5 )
decimation: lol. yeah I wish I knew wtf this 'leaking fluid' stuff means
ben_vulpes: decimation: i don't think it's "leaking" so much as it's not a traditional "closed" hydraulic system.
ben_vulpes: cursory research indicates that pressurization during powered flight comes from the onboard turbopump and that when not under powered flight there's some pressure reservoir.
ben_vulpes: turns out, pv=nrt is tricky in practice.
decimation: okay so there's a pre-pressurized tank that is at the top of the rocket, it runs out of pressure after pissing out its fluid
decimation: make seense
mircea_popescu: 10% is skill kind-of a lot.
mircea_popescu: seeing how you could overfill.
decimation: well, the problem is that every ounce of that tank costs $$$
mircea_popescu: generally you can overfill any tankb y 10%
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the urbit samples seem to consist of 'hello world'-style toys
mircea_popescu: what's it gonna do, write its senator about it ?
decimation: asciilifeform: moldbug hasn't make something 'useful' of urbit yet?
undata: what a terrifying syntax
decimation tried to run urbit after it was publicized, got tired of the entire world collapsing every other day
asciilifeform: decimation: he made something very useful, from own point of view: a few $mil usd.
decimation: heh. from some theilite?
asciilifeform: decimation: andresen horowitz, iirc
undata: holy operator hell
undata: then you'd have to memorize their goofy names for things too
undata: reminds me of the ruby ass-dungeon
ben_vulpes: why this obsession with new programming languages
undata: ben_vulpes: scoreboard bro
asciilifeform: undata: it works quite like, e.g., haskell.
undata: asciilifeform: seemed it was some kind of functional environment, but I can't read it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mr mold's interest in programming language design, somehow, did not extend to any attempt at self-hosting the apparatus. the bulk of his code, iirc, is in straight c.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> why this obsession with new programming languages <<< same reason every us chick has had three prior sex partners.
mircea_popescu: even the ones that fuck the whole bar.
undata: it's all about getting your goofy pile of shit on HN
asciilifeform confesses that he was immediately responsible for getting mr mold's shit onto HN
asciilifeform: the public repo was initially 'secret'
undata: demerit!
undata: heh I don't know, there could be interesting ideas in there; I haven't looked
asciilifeform: there were, in fact, interesting ideas in there. i quietly followed his work for more than a year.
assbot: Firearms Philosophy of Ivan Chesnokov ... ( http://bit.ly/1KP5xkl )
decimation: really, moldbug 'needs' at least a few $bil to make hardware
undata: "MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE" << ahahaha oh god, my sides
undata reads the rest
mircea_popescu: WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR RIFLE? STUPID HICK AMERICAN WITH TEN GALLON HAT AND GIANT PICKUP TRUCK LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE SIMONOV KARBIN AND SAYS "NO, RIFLE NEED MORE DUMB SHIT ON IT"?
mircea_popescu: WHAT IS REASON FOR PISTOL GRIP?
mircea_popescu: that's a good fucking question lmao. sks fired from the hip by teenage boys in rural texas ? no wonder people can't land fucking rockets.
undata: the guy's right about the mosin
undata: mine's still in incredible shape
mircea_popescu: SURE, IS ONLY YUGOSLAV COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF SERGEI SIMONOV. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY SERGEI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!"
mircea_popescu: i'd like to hire this guy
mircea_popescu: do reddit mpex pr.
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: hey ivan chesnokov : apply will you. all you need is a gpg sig, you can sit behind 7 proxies for all i care.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin buys many daughter thumb!
BingoBoingo: "YUGOSLAV TYPE HAS SPECIAL GAS TUBE LEVER AND GRENADE SPIGOT ON END OF BARREL. I THINK LIVE GRENADE FOR CIVILIAN IN AMERICA IS PROBABLY ENOUGH REASON FOR GULAG, SO IS PROBABLY NO REAL USE FOR GRENADE SPIGOT TO YOU. "
BingoBoingo: "YOU LOOK FOR NICE SHINE AND GOOD SMOOTH SURFACE. YOU LOOK FOR SHARP EDGE ON RIFLING OF BARREL. YOU NOTICE AND AVOID BARREL IF HAS POCKMARKS LIKE ASS OF FAT GIRL. "
mircea_popescu: he has a good point re the light tho
mircea_popescu: that's how you buy an unknown rifle.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, so much wisdom here/
mircea_popescu: IN RUSSIA WE ALSO HAVE RULES OF COURTING. DO NOT BRING SIDEARM TO FIRST TIME WITH GIRL. SENDS WRONG MESSAGE, THAT YOU ARE BAD CONSCRIPT WHO WILL RAPE GIRL.
mircea_popescu: somehow it seems to me he uses conscript as transliteration of ciolovek
BingoBoingo: ON SECOND TIME MANY DRINKS OF VODKA TO MAKE GIRL WANT FUCK; MATCHING ENOUGH DRINKS MAKES DANGEROUS TO CARRY SIDEARM.
mircea_popescu: dude check it out, the only extant country he actually mentions is romania
mircea_popescu: since no more yugo or motherland.
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decimation: my dad recently had his kitchen floor rebuilt. the wooden floor carpenters were apparently all romanian
mircea_popescu: i can see it.
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asciilifeform: decimation: mr mold said to be (publicly, iirc) that he is not interested in making hardware.
decimation: that doesn't mean that hardware isn't interested in him!
mircea_popescu: generally the paper revolutionaries looking for a little "investment" tend to make it clear they don't actually wish to rock the boat.
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 216.9, Best ask: 217.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 217.0, 24 hour volume: 73997.24940145, 24 hour low: 189.47, 24 hour high: 233.9, 24 hour vwap: 211.842718099
asciilifeform: *said to me
decimation: thestringpuller: you posted http://bitcoinobituaries.com/ a few weeks ago, it's quite amusing
assbot: Bitcoin Obituaries: Following Bitcoin While It Dies & Goes Up in Price ... ( http://bit.ly/14GuTzB )
assbot: sacred cows, the second serving. | the munchkin wrangler. ... ( http://bit.ly/14GuWvb )
assbot: Queen of Feminism — Be Careful of "Switch Rape" ... ( http://bit.ly/14Gv3qB )
mircea_popescu: "So I think I was raped last night…. Or sexually assaulted. I was hooking up with this guy I regularly hook up with since the break up, but I’m not really into him and just kinda want him to satisfy me u know? So we were having sex like usual…. But then he turned me around and began penetrating me from behind “doggy style.” He kept going. Not ONCE did he ask if it was ok to change positions. What should I do
mircea_popescu: ??! I don’t want him to hate me because I have a crush on his hot friend, but rape is not ok. I let him continue and we both came, but it’s natural to have sensations even when raped. I can’t even think straight anymore idk what to do. Thinking about posting his Facebook here."
mircea_popescu: problem with idiots is that even middlingly executed parody is indistinguishable from their actual creeds.
asciilifeform: 'Twice the recoil of the 9mm for 10% more muzzle energy.' << physics???
mircea_popescu: energy is mv**2 ; impules is mv
mircea_popescu: i imagine he means recoil = impulse
mircea_popescu: thus it's more productive energy-wise to use faster bullets, not larger slower ones.
asciilifeform still waiting to hear of man-portable 'light gas' gun.
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley-antitrust-case-settlement-poaching-engineers.html << lol "To head off a trial and the exposure of reams of incriminating emails, Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe — the four remaining defendants — are offering to pay $415 million, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations." "Last spring, the two sides agreed on $324.5 million. After legal fees, that would
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPaLfO )
decimation: have amounted to a few thousand dollars for each of the 64,000 class members."
mircea_popescu: lol. only half a billion ?
mircea_popescu: but they can spend A TRILLION for a shitty plane, those people ?
decimation: of course, esteemed professors in USG law explain how this is good: Ms. Lobel said. “But it’s a good result in that there has been much media attention to the illegality of such retention practices, real monetary consequences and promises to cease all such practices in the future.”"
mircea_popescu: how come the disparity ?
mircea_popescu: why's google, apple and etc not pay a trillion ? it's just bezzlars anyway.
mircea_popescu: but they're suddenly NOT the same thing if they leave the circuit, are they.
asciilifeform: especially not this way.
decimation: hey little engineer derp! here's $5k for us supressing your wage for a decade - it's cool because the newspapers have said google is bad
mircea_popescu: especially not.
asciilifeform: if apple, google, spend 1000 usd, publicly - think of the stock value
mircea_popescu: yet it was ok for bp to be assessed a trillion.
asciilifeform: think of the punctured illusion of fat industry.
mircea_popescu: because it went from bezzle pocket t obezzle pocket.
decimation: well, bp is bad because oil is bad
mircea_popescu: these magical money that make anyone rich up to the point where they'rer to be spent...
asciilifeform: 'gnomish gold'
mircea_popescu: x company sells for 100 mn. you talk to the founders... they made 50k off the deal.
asciilifeform: or what was the legend.
mircea_popescu: "yreah, my gf sells romance novels, it was like 3 of her books"
mircea_popescu: "well i guess that's fair, they also sell for 20-30mn"
decimation: mircea_popescu: conversely, it makes 'total sense' for the management of apple or whoever to buy back stock
decimation: curiously they are all compensated directly in stock options & equivilents...
mircea_popescu: buffett explained this scam back when he was still you know, possessed of himself.
mircea_popescu: hire some derp to work your company, pay him by share price, next thing you know he;'s buying up your stock.
mircea_popescu: with your own moneyt
mircea_popescu: and making the %.
decimation: exactly. in the us system it's even worse, given the pervasive nature of index-fund investing by derps with retirements
mircea_popescu: socialistoids of all flavours praise this system of "dilute ownership"
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, it gives no one actual power.
xiando: that bitcoin in commieland is starting to look like a wedge don't it http://btccharts.everdot.org/2015-01-16/wedgey.jpg oh well
decimation: mircea_popescu: it makes the little people feel like they are getting their money's worth, as their stock valuation rises, while the management cashes out
decimation: it's a brillant scam if you can run it
assbot: If you go on a Bitcoin fork, irrespective which scammer proposes it, you will lose your Bitcoins. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KPbAFD )
mircea_popescu: decimation it's as fucking unbriliant as a lump of coal. at the end of the week, instead of having a decent steak and a game of bridge with intellgient people,
mircea_popescu: you're stuck hiding in your gated compound from imaginary niggers.
xiando: I do not speak chinese so sorry
mircea_popescu: oh ? hm, i guess i got confused.
assbot: Judge Forrest ended the first week of the Silk Road trial by reminding the jury not to watch the Princess Bride over the weekend.
mircea_popescu: lol wut ?!
BingoBoingo: The Silk Road Aministrator title is a reference to the plot of that film.
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