assbot: Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23076 @ 0.00080552 = 18.5882 BTC [+]
    
    thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307140 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1307 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16458311240.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.25228
    
    moiety: whoops well the doge community does not like being told "fuck you".... i'm in the doghouse
    
    Vexual: boingo brain u genius
    
    mthreat: !up mjr_
    
    mthreat: <mircea_popescu> mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << sure, do you have the logs for the first year?
    
    Vexual: lol
    
    mthreat: <benkay> linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work << i'm shit at CSS; feel free to suggest changes, with css/html code if possible
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat drop me your email, ill send you what i got.
    
    mircea_popescu: lemme see here
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080559 = 13.0103 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: Azelphur FabianB mod6 punkman mind sendinmg your early logs to mthreat too ?
    
    mircea_popescu: up until july 2013 if memory serves.
    
    mircea_popescu: may actually.
    
    mthreat: log.b-a currently goes back to 26-4-2013 I believe
    
    mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9997 @ 0.00080506 = 8.0482 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
    
    mthreat: ^ that is the oldest day, and the first entry has id #1.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10820 @ 0.00080464 = 8.7062 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 894 @ 0.00080255 = 0.7175 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00080255 = 13.523 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00080574 = 6.8488 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.067 = 1.206 BTC [+]
    
    Vexual: yo smidge, -1 me for effectiveness
    
    Vexual: :)
    
    benkay: ;;ident Vexual
    
    gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne
    
    benkay: is this real life?
    
    Vexual: can i haz job now ben10?
    
    benkay: ;;gettrust assbot muXne
    
    gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
    
    benkay: well if this aint a how d'you do
    
    benkay: i don't hire markov chains, Vexual
    
    benkay: but play some music i might send you a bitcent or two
    
    Vexual: shit got lippy, i deleted it
    
    Vexual: now i forget what you like
    
    benkay: well i enjoyed this a lot today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-QRw9Pl5WI&eml=2014June19/1644059/6011909
    
    assbot: Seeed - Cherry Oh 2014 (Animatic) - YouTube
    
    benkay: peeeeete
    
    benkay: m'lad
    
    bitcoinpete: lol hey benkay
    
    bitcoinpete: just came across this gem: https://twitter.com/coin_artist/status/480574910515789825
    
    assbot: Portrait of /AmirTaaki and /Radomysisky. Let the decrypting begin. Victor takes all. /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/art?src=hash /hashtag/hiddentreasure?src=hash http://t.co/JmrjfROEWO
    
    
    
    assbot: "I Always Smile Kid"  BL-DUB BEATS - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: ହିନ୍ଜଡା << this is a word
    
    Apocalyptic: in Sumerian maybe
    
    mircea_popescu: some indian language
    
    Vexual: sanskrit?
    
    moiety: what does it mean?
    
    Vexual: ^
    
    moiety: is it just me that it looks like a row of people to?
    
    moiety: well, heads
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah.
    
    moiety: XD
    
    Vexual: i met a girl that knew sanskrit once
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat sent to april 27th
    
    mircea_popescu: there are prolly holes in it tho
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.067 = 1.005 BTC [+]
    
    mthreat: ok
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pigeons hey you got old -assets logs ? 2012 to 2013 ?
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    mircea_popescu: Aug 10 08:04:15 *patrickharnett (cb4f5ec0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.79.94.192) has joined #bitcoin-assets
    
    mircea_popescu: days of yore heh
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;seen bitfoo
    
    gribble: bitfoo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 14 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 46 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <bitfoo> +1 for informative titles
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03847462 = 0.7695 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00080485 = 12.4752 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;seen oneeyed
    
    gribble: oneeyed was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <OneEyed> Oh, I thought I had read an IRC transcript on bitcointalk earlier today. Sorry for the confusion.
    
    mircea_popescu: what's jcpham's gay nick  these days ?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4438 @ 0.00080599 = 3.577 BTC [+]
    
    Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, rithm
    
    mircea_popescu: a yes ty.
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;later tell rithm hey you got old -assets logs ? dump em on mthreat
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    Apocalyptic: yw
    
    bitcoinpete: man the world cup wouldn't be 1/10th as interesting w/o bitbet
    
    moiety: imma get a couple hours sleep, night all :]
    
    bitcoinpete: having a huge amount of fun
    
    bitcoinpete: cheers moiety :)
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety sex weeks to you!
    
    moiety: XD
    
    bitcoinpete: the blackcoin "community" has been driving some traffic to my blog with the litecoin article
    
    bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/28nfvs/why_its_over_for_litecoin_this_is_great_for/
    
    assbot: Why Its Over For Litecoin (This is GREAT for BlackCoin!) : blackcoin
    
    bitcoinpete: there are some lulz in the comments
    
    bitcoinpete: "Peter Dushenski is a first class bellend who would attack blackcoin if it was in litecoins position. JUST REMEMBER THAT!"
    
    bitcoinpete: probably the best one there
    
    bitcoinpete: "Blackcoin definitely has what it takes to be competitive in today's market. A solid development team combined with a focus on real-world adoption will give us a bright future."
    
    Vexual: yarr
    
    bitcoinpete: "I don't necessarily disagree with the message, and I think advertising there a great idea. However, we should absolutely not stoop to coin wars type of posts. Blackcoin can succeed along with LTC."
    
    bitcoinpete: don't stoop!
    
    bitcoinpete: "My point is simply that honey attracts more flies than vinegar and we don't need to attack other coins or promote negativity. It turns people off."
    
    bitcoinpete: that dale carnegie...
    
    mircea_popescu: bellend eh ?
    
    mircea_popescu: wtf is blackcoin in the first place.
    
    Vexual: not atc\
    
    mircea_popescu: that's a point.
    
    bitcoinpete: ya… bellend… not even "m'lad"
    
    
    
    assbot: /hashtag/TeamBlack?src=hash just finished getting interviewed by /CoinTelegraph really awesome stuff! http://t.co/EObIGvkbYr
    
    bitcoinpete: there they be
    
    bitcoinpete: in all dat glory
    
    mircea_popescu: justusranvier you know if you made a point of cutting out tired cliches such as "By now everyone has heard of" your writing'd benefit immensely.
    
    bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: Fucking hashpower << this.
    
    mircea_popescu: "The origins of modern currencies started with gold and other precious metals." modern has an actual meaning. modern currencies start with the paper receipts used in england and then spread all over. premodern money starts with bronze and shells.
    
    Vexual: bronzing up is still a thing
    
    mircea_popescu: "Over time, as finance and commerce became more sophisticated, the concept of a unit of account emerge and gold generally became the default unit. Much has been written regarding why gold fell into this role, but for our purposes here its sufficient to note that it did." << seriously ?! what is this, insult the reader's intelligence club ?
    
    Vexual: ;;ud bronzing up
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bronzing%20Up | "They smeared themselves with their own waste, but the protest (known in jails as bronzing up) proved futile when they were later told they were not required at ...
    
    mircea_popescu: that thing needs a complete re-write
    
    mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqrvF4qCQAAEmtE.jpg << that's the solid dev team that defvinitely "has what it takes in the market" ?
    
    mircea_popescu: also in the news, cointelegraph needs a bubble level
    
    bitcoinpete: that yellow tie does wonders to obscure the gender of its bearer
    
    bitcoinpete: sorta reminds me of the italian model cum nun
    
    bitcoinpete: in the "well that's unexpected" way
    
    mircea_popescu: not like there's any women in these solid teams anyway
    
    bitcoinpete: despite their "fairly distributed" motto
    
    bitcoinpete: i bet you their "community bounties" aren't all they're cracked up to be either
    
    bitcoinpete: Cosmos: I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive << i want to sense sarcasm but i'm just not seeing it
    
    bitcoinpete: o there it is
    
    bitcoinpete: subtle
    
    mircea_popescu: "They are beyond question the loveliest of all their sex...In the United States, of course, where natural selection has been going on, as elsewhere, and where, much more than elsewhere, that has been a great variety to choose from. The eventual American woman will be even more beautiful than the woman of to-day. Her claims to that distinction will result from a fine combination of the best points of all those many race
    
    mircea_popescu: s which have helped to make our population."
    
    mircea_popescu: someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago.
    
    bitcoinpete: never saw walmarters coming...
    
    mircea_popescu: beauty does not coexist with convenience.
    
    mircea_popescu: only the knuth and starvation makes beautiful girls.
    
    mircea_popescu: apparently it's spelled knout
    
    bitcoinpete: ;;google knout
    
    gribble: Knout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knout>; Knout - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/knout>; knout - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/knout>
    
    bitcoinpete: myeah
    
    bitcoinpete: googling "knuth" brings up this http://xkcd.com/163/
    
    assbot: xkcd: Donald Knuth
    
    mircea_popescu: flogger and famine. there, it even alliterates.
    
    bitcoinpete: starve and strap too
    
    Vexual: hmmmmmmmm
    
    
    
    assbot: Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: OnDubGround - NoNoNo RMX - YouTube
    
    bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. << added to the growing list
    
    bitcoinpete: decimation: 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox << following the leader instead of trying new shit like this is guaranteed to screw over the entire industry
    
    bitcoinpete: just end up racing to the bottom on cost and process efficiency
    
    bitcoinpete: and logged up and... ready for bed. golf in the morning!
    
    mircea_popescu: nighty dear world.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00080963 = 12.2659 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    
    
    assbot: An audio illusion by WHYY The Pulse on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
    
    punkman1: morning guv'nor
    
    Vexual: morm'm got that sans flash?
    
    
    
    assbot: Daft Punk - Teachers - YouTube
    
    punkman1: try this https://ec-media.soundcloud.com/nOGV3YdxVaIA.128.mp3?f10880d39085a94a0418a7ef69b03d522cd6dfee9399eeb9a522019f6bfabf3fa1507fb8f4c1c7664b20f98a253a4cf99c459385527def42fa82ef5f49968df33e2860fbc6&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJNIGGLK7XA7YZSNQ&Expires=1403421391&Signature=iHJ%2FXd9SWVqXYX%2FhuSBLM8ly0B0%3D
    
    Vexual: yeah i got it, thanks
    
    punkman1: makes me think of how I got no idea what some song is saying until I read the lyrics
    
    Vexual: allow me
    
    
    
    assbot: Bad Joke [PARAZITII] - YouTube
    
    Vexual: kennilworth on da mic
    
    Vexual: thanks for the landcruisers
    
    Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyS9M8T03A following you home since forever
    
    assbot: George Clinton - Atomic Dog - YouTube
    
    punkman1: hello, this is dog
    
    
    
    assbot: Pueblo Cafe - Todo Mi Vida - HD - High Quality - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00080981 = 2.065 BTC [+]
    
    punkman1: ;;rate muXne 1 #b-a dj
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
    
    Vexual: ;;rate pynkman1 1 sexy wit da curses
    
    gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
    
    Vexual: ;;rate punkman1 sexy wit da curses
    
    gribble: Error: 'sexy' is not a valid integer.
    
    Vexual: ;;rate punkman 1 sexy with curses
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user punkman has been recorded.
    
    
    
    assbot: Siriusmo "Itchy / Cornerboy" - YouTube
    
    Vexual: wait
    
    Vexual: are you punkman?
    
    Vexual: yes
    
    Vexual: take it back to the shack
    
    
    
    assbot: Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 69 @ 0.18968827 = 13.0885 BTC [-] {5} 
    
    
    
    assbot: DJ Hell - Wonderland - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: FKA twigs - Water Me - YouTube
    
    Vexual: hehe
    
    
    
    assbot: Johnny Cash - Hurt - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: Fever Ray 'When I Grow Up' - YouTube
    
    Vexual: as the sun comes up over latvia
    
    benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date
    
    benkay: <mircea_popescu> someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. // there are some gems. some.
    
    benkay: ;;later tell Vexual <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlZD1PJKU_k << never again
    
    assbot: Brooke Candy - Henny Pop (double) 2.0 - YouTube
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.066 = 1.518 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    benkay: <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc6CQNI2x8 // la cumbia!
    
    assbot: Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube
    
    benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2014&bots=true#728328 // i take it back this is clearly our own dear Vexual
    
    assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
    
    benkay: <Vexual> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzpOUwiLkc // i bet one or two of 'em is interested in becoming an actual sexopt
    
    assbot: Nightcrawlers - Push The Feeling On - YouTube
    
    benkay: sexpot
    
    
    
    assbot: Nightcrawlers (band) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 602 @ 0.00229842 = 1.3836 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00087109 = 2.6568 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00087109 = 6.5332 BTC [+]
    
    muXne: I forgot how to do it
    
    Vexual: like dat?
    
    Vexual: punkman u like lyrics?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00087013 = 6.7 BTC [-]
    
    Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI check the date
    
    assbot: Bob Dylan - Thunder On The Mountain - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: New York - Alicia Keys  "Empire State of Mind" [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10001 @ 0.00086986 = 8.6995 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500022 = 0.65 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0650001 = 0.65 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Patience - YouTube
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10083 @ 0.00086686 = 8.7405 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    
    
    
    
    assbot: Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Set Up Shop - YouTube
    
    Vexual: BLEND IT
    
    
    
    assbot: The Herbaliser - The Blend - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06363571 = 0.8909 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Cypress Hill x Rusko - Can't Keep Me Down (Feat. Damian Marley) - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.06286572 = 6.2866 BTC [-] {11} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.0298998 = 1.495 BTC [+] {6} 
    
    Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTGrfs5TXM dear reader, your war doesnt exist
    
    assbot: War - Low Rider (HQ Audio) - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03022011 = 1.511 BTC [+] {5} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Kelis - Milkshake - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06007957 = 1.1415 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1704 @ 0.00087075 = 1.4838 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0649999 = 1.495 BTC [+]
    
    Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbW1srpjZc hopper oz you thought deniro was a thing
    
    assbot: AC/DC if you want blood + Hell Ride - Tribute - YouTube
    
    Vexual: deniro is not a thing
    
    
    
    Vexual: how goes the estonian tailors?
    
    []bot: Bet placed: 2.9544 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 73(Y):27(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.57721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,589.
    
    fluffypony: Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night
    
    
    
    assbot: Easy Rider - Jack Nicholson, Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper[Best quality] - YouTube
    
    Vexual: i tried to go to hong kong
    
    Vexual: demeanour fine famability too high
    
    Vexual: i wont mentio the airline;i'm xhanging
    
    
    
    assbot: Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider - YouTube
    
    Vexual: eat  a dick kako https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo
    
    assbot: Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
    
    Vexual: fine as in accepable
    
    
    
    assbot: Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube
    
    Azelphur: mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards
    
    
    
    assbot: Jennifer Lopez - Jenny from the Block - YouTube
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00087085 = 9.5794 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Billy Bunks - Strumpets - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06479972 = 0.7776 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Raw Aussie Hip-Hop with Cairns MC Wilba rapping live on Boom Bap FM - YouTube
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0008675 = 16.4825 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26640 @ 0.0008725 = 23.2434 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    
    
    assbot: Hermitude - Ukiyo - YouTube
    
    
    
    assbot: Flight Facilities - Crave You (Adventure Club Dubstep Remix) - YouTube
    
    Vexual: sup TAT
    
    ThickAsThieves: sup
    
    Vexual: to adventure, and beyond
    
    ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=269740803
    
    assbot: Steam Greenlight :: VoidSpace - The Dogecoin MMORPG
    
    Vexual: how many kid would wanna be you??
    
    ThickAsThieves: kids don't even know about me
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's how you stay cool
    
    fluffypony: you're so hipster
    
    Vexual: kids pick up on shit
    
    fluffypony: werd
    
    ThickAsThieves: flashback! http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/banana1015.com/files/2012/07/gngft.jpg
    
    ThickAsThieves: intersting, i didnt know steam sold non-games, they also have the greenlight program for non-games too http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765§ion=software
    
    assbot: Steam Greenlight
    
    ThickAsThieves: mostly software you might use to make games...
    
    ThickAsThieves: vexual, gimme a good song, nothing dubstep or redneck
    
    Vexual: wait
    
    
    
    assbot: Blondie - Call Me - YouTube
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    Vexual: lofi
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's weird to have such a rock song with no band in the video
    
    ThickAsThieves: she's all pretending to be Aretha Franklin when she should be Joan Jetting
    
    Vexual: the band is tied to the radiator back at he hotel
    
    ThickAsThieves: i wonder how much coke she did that night
    
    ThickAsThieves: she looks pretty drunk
    
    Vexual: yeah i think shes on nubbins herbs
    
    ThickAsThieves: this guy is drunk too "Yea, these are nice. I want the gold one but I will probably wait since bitcoins are way undervalued and gold is somewhat over valued in relation."
    
    
    
    assbot: Blondie - The Tide Is High - YouTube
    
    ThickAsThieves: The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
    
    Vexual: yeah ppYgrdJ0pWk
    
    ThickAsThieves: I have 7 reddit karma!
    
    xmj: I have 20!
    
    xmj: My bad. 13.
    
    Vexual: how to reddit?
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's hard getting karma without agreeing with and pumping everything
    
    xmj: ThickAsThieves: just post interesting links.
    
    ThickAsThieves: for varying values of interesting...
    
    xmj: well du
    
    xmj: h
    
    Vexual: pWhj4sVeVS0
    
    Vexual: no?
    
    ThickAsThieves: i dont speak that language
    
    Vexual: pWhj4sVeVD0
    
    xmj: Vexual: posted his root password into irc. let's hack him. his ip is 127.0.0.1
    
    Vexual: 10 tons of honey pot for fools xjm
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 133 @ 0.06000085 = 7.9801 BTC [-] {8} 
    
    xmj: Vexual: apologies. i'm mildly bored.
    
    Vexual: comment things on your way past
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 488 @ 0.05333757 = 26.0287 BTC [-] {21} 
    
    Vexual: too late for that or you work in the garden
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00086529 = 2.5959 BTC [-]
    
    Vexual: ill gibe you a tip var is called vex
    
    Vexual: but your fail will cascade to fertiliser
    
    Vexual: mext years limes if you care
    
    mircea_popescu: lol hi there
    
    Vexual: PBCJWJXeFzk
    
    Vexual: hey
    
    ThickAsThieves: i wonder if vexual could pass a turing test
    
    Vexual: ;;rate mircrea_popescu 1 sexy
    
    gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
    
    Vexual: +d
    
    Vexual: TAT o can't chess
    
    Vexual: or see the kb
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves probably. turing test mostly verifies predictability.
    
    Vexual: well thats a fail, bring it
    
    
    
    assbot: Michael Bubl - Feeling Good [Official Music Video] - YouTube
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [+]
    
    ThickAsThieves: it's interesting learning the signs of deception in stock TA articles, charts, etc, to try to influence the market to buy at tops, sell at bottoms
    
    ThickAsThieves: you pretty much cant trust shit
    
    Vexual: tat you know more about me than i do
    
    mircea_popescu: exactly.
    
    ThickAsThieves: like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/20/options-play-for-tapping-into-strength-of-netflix/
    
    assbot: Options Play For Tapping Into Strength Of Netflix - Forbes
    
    ThickAsThieves: i thought it'd be an article saying NFLX is going down
    
    ThickAsThieves: nope!
    
    ThickAsThieves: it just double-topped and she says buy!
    
    Vexual: i never knew netflix was tradable
    
    mircea_popescu: you have to understand how propaganda works.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i wonder how these things go IRL, like does her boss say "Please write a bullish NFLX article"
    
    mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press.
    
    mircea_popescu: no, generally it's not. goebbels didn't go "please write me a bullshit anti-jew speech again"
    
    Vexual: meanwhile australia is rocking private trackers and not caring
    
    Vexual: nrst belive im writing the bitcoin tax law too
    
    ThickAsThieves: "Bitreserve’s tagline is ‘the end of bitcoin volatility’. "
    
    mircea_popescu: what's bitreserve lol
    
    Vexual: ^
    
    mircea_popescu: o the cnet guy
    
    mircea_popescu: ya ya.
    
    mircea_popescu: read the guy's personal history sometime btw. it's quite instructive.
    
    mircea_popescu: patron saint of all neobees.
    
    Vexual: h,h,how to be cool?
    
    ThickAsThieves: cnet never really seemed interesting to me
    
    mircea_popescu: well basically guy sold out for about half a bn (back when us dollars were still worth something)
    
    mircea_popescu: then went on a spending spree, which left him bankrupt last year.
    
    ThickAsThieves: perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then
    
    mircea_popescu: now he thinks himself a bitcoin expert, without having spent his year humbly reading here.
    
    mircea_popescu: right. this can only end in tears.
    
    mircea_popescu: "Bitreserve is Minors way to address the problems and opportunities he sees with Bitcoin. He says most people will never be comfortable holding the volatile digital currency"
    
    ThickAsThieves: it irks me that bigger media now calls Ver Bitcoin Jesus
    
    mircea_popescu: i mean think about it. so many sorts of wrong in so little space...
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: too much irony for me
    
    ThickAsThieves: i guess i need to stop caring about idiots that trust the media
    
    mircea_popescu: i'll tell you, it's your emotional investment in said media, and more generally the notion that the whole establishment is a positive thing "taken together" that irks you.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's an evil empire, chiefly because it's made by stupid people to promote wrongness and error.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i guess itll at least yield drama fuel
    
    
    
    assbot: Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: dubious. who cares about ver now that he's poor ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: well the media will be happy to report his failures
    
    ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin Jesus Crucified
    
    mircea_popescu: im wondering if they have a pedo story in the drawer about him too. i wasn't able to find one.
    
    ThickAsThieves: nah he has a real undertone of lack of confidence
    
    ThickAsThieves: probly has micropenis or something
    
    Vexual: fuck i spilled my shisky then
    
    ThickAsThieves: i guess those are probly higher % pedos...
    
    
    
    assbot: If you like pina coladas - jimmy bufett Lyrics - YouTube
    
    bitcoinpete: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307218 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1229 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16646758858.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.65207
    
    bitcoinpete: 129 ph...
    
    ThickAsThieves: wow
    
    ThickAsThieves: i guess ASICMINER is delivering
    
    Vexual: ph is so 2014
    
    ThickAsThieves: Estimated Next Difficulty:16,947,623,526 (+25.89%)
    
    bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: knc too
    
    mircea_popescu: and to cap the previous discussion : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Beckwith_James_Carroll_Portrait_of_Evelyn_Nesbitt.jpg
    
    mircea_popescu: woman is 16 and a half.
    
    mircea_popescu: o damn.
    
    
    
    assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more :: 3.81 B (81%) on Yes, 0.87 B (19%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 47`543 (100`000 to 6`000)
    
    ThickAsThieves: just got interesting
    
    Vexual: recent pic?
    
    mircea_popescu: ya srsly.
    
    mircea_popescu: Vexual not more than coffee.
    
    []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 491.17953373 BTC. Current weight: 42,265.
    
    
    
    assbot: Paul Simon - 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover + lyrics - YouTube
    
    xmj: how fast is the rate of change?
    
    Vexual: variable
    
    xmj: approximately, per week
    
    Vexual: difficulty? its a thing unto itself
    
    Vexual: miners of ol' say price drives mining
    
    Vexual: i say bitcoin is bunta
    
    Vexual: ;;ud bunta
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunta | The chief told the explorers they had two choices: death or bunta. The first, saying he has a wife and kids, easily chose bunta. The whole tribe bends him over ...
    
    bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: "On June 5th Friedcat's update mentioned the close to 60PH that was finishing up production. When asked how long that was from an inventory standpoint, he indicated 1 to 1.5 months from that day to sell everything plus the fiat to BTC conversion. 1.5 months from June 5th puts us around July 20th, a solid month from now."
    
    ThickAsThieves: apparently it's pretty hard to make a bitbet that difficulty can't satisfy
    
    bitcoinpete: from forumz
    
    Vexual: bitbet gets scary close to diff
    
    Vexual: months out
    
    kakobrekla: <Vexual> bitbet gets scary close to diff < take an unimaginable number and it will end up scary close.
    
    mircea_popescu: yup.
    
    mircea_popescu: exactly.
    
    ThickAsThieves: punkman should do another datamine: What if you bet .1 btc on Yes for all bets including "difficulty" and No for all others
    
    ThickAsThieves: probly $1m
    
    ThickAsThieves: hehe
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    kakobrekla: nah, he just makes to make a bet that over next N bets the outcome will be positive
    
    kakobrekla: and bet on that.
    
    mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny, all these wanna-bes and have-beens trying to get involved into bitcoin with dysfunctional, nonsensical business models
    
    []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 91(Y):9(N) by coin, 86(Y):14(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.67721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,541.
    
    mircea_popescu: when all they'd really need would be to forget all the wallets and whatnot and just you know, bet yes on this and no onthat
    
    
    
    assbot: Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (HQ with lyrics) - YouTube
    
    xmj: mircea_popescu: like those hedgefunds that put up bitcoin funds?
    
    Vexual: everything is all
    
    ThickAsThieves: “Cybercriminals acting in late 2013 installed a malicious computer program on the servers of a large hedge fund, crippling its high-speed trading strategy and sending information about its trades to unknown offsite computers.”
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    Vexual: >>low speed
    
    mircea_popescu: there you go asciilifeform
    
    ThickAsThieves: Because of this systemic risk, the SEC recently announced it “will be conducting examinations of more than 50 registered broker-dealers and registered investment advisers, focusing on areas related to cybersecurity.”
    
    mircea_popescu: and diametric. naggum was wrong.
    
    ThickAsThieves: SEC gonna need a bigger boat
    
    mircea_popescu: people doing "navy manuals" and whatever the fuck use decent software stacks for a limited time only.
    
    Vexual: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: in general, once corruption becomes fashionable, holdouts last  ageneration or less.
    
    mircea_popescu: and obviously, there's no prize for the people that ran safe stacks. there's a prize for those who didn't, who now get to a) bundle a lot of unrelated responmsibility and blame it on this known cause and b) ask for more money.
    
    mircea_popescu: sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her.
    
    mircea_popescu: in this sense, you don't want either democracy or strong government, because neither democracy nor strong government are capable of acting differently from the weak spirited but rich parent of an estranged daughter.
    
    bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: spot on analogy
    
    bitcoinpete: "According to the analogy theory, it’s because making analogies requires thinking across traditional mental categories. In fact, some cognitive scientists have proposed that the farther the analogy—that is, the farther apart the previous experience and new situation—the more likely it will lead to a radically new idea." << hocus "science" but a point
    
    
    
    assbot: Where Do New Ideas Come From? – Phenomena: Only Human
    
    mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete there is something to the afieldness theory i think.
    
    mircea_popescu: i certainly use a lot of sex analogies in work fields specifically because people [english speakers] so deliberately compartimentalise the two
    
    mircea_popescu: it's a process much akin to inclusive franchise - more likely to yield better ballot results.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00087778 = 8.8656 BTC [+]
    
    bitcoinpete: it's definitely hard for native english speakers to come up with our own sex analogies
    
    bitcoinpete: because of how compartmentalized all such notions are
    
    mircea_popescu: nude workday ftw.
    
    Vexual: i win
    
    bitcoinpete: we understand them, just generate them with difficulty
    
    bitcoinpete: i really shouldn't say "we"
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah.
    
    bitcoinpete: eh it's a skill to be worked on
    
    mircea_popescu: english jesus pete :D
    
    bitcoinpete: lol pete is already one of those bible doods
    
    bitcoinpete: i've been using a lot more analogies in irl conversation since hanging out here
    
    bitcoinpete: with pretty exceptional results
    
    
    
    assbot: Forest Swords - Thor's Stone (Lee 'Scratch' Perry Remix) - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: watch out, you'rte gonna start picking up women and whatnot
    
    bitcoinpete: you shoulda seen me at the club on friday night
    
    bitcoinpete: lol
    
    bitcoinpete: wife was in las vegas for a friend's birthday
    
    mircea_popescu: (yes, it is my considered opinion that the one sine qua non condition for successful flirting is the device of analogy. anything else people insist upon, such as looking good, being funny, having money or w/e is piss)
    
    bitcoinpete: analogies tie in to "being funny"
    
    bitcoinpete: or they can
    
    mircea_popescu: woman may enjoy to laugh, but proper analogy brings this innocent sense of wonder forth
    
    mircea_popescu: which is how people fuck anyway.
    
    bitcoinpete: at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden
    
    mircea_popescu: mjr_: what a treasure trove of fun memories << werd.
    
    bitcoinpete: so people fuck by analogy…
    
    Vexual: carvel
    
    Vexual: fit fucks
    
    mircea_popescu: lol yeah
    
    Vexual: the undeniable
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman that's a direct (ie, word-for-word, idiom-blind) translation of a highly tensed romanian text.
    
    mircea_popescu: basically, sung google translate.
    
    
    
    assbot: When I say 'most confused fan at the World Cup', I obviously mean after Columbian Nazi Weed Pope. Obviously. http://t.co/TXPVYcvHyo
    
    
    
    assbot: kymani marley - warriors - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: lol that's pretty good.
    
    mircea_popescu: i doubt the guy's confused per se. looks more like, we're lulzy to him.
    
    mircea_popescu: " In the next 2 days 18 indie bands in Shoreditch will name themselves Nazi Weed Pope."
    
    thestringpuller: lol i had a dream about bitcoin-assets
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ?
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller did it involve vigorous copulative movements ?
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay: there are some gems. some. << well of course. but the guy didn't say "there's going to be A total knockout born somewhere in the US"
    
    
    
    assbot: EEK A MOUSE BITTY BONG - YouTube
    
    bitcoinpete: "It is highly unlikely that most Americans feel the current rise in prices as noise. Inflation has a way of eating into every penny that you have especially when the market is flooded with debt."
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: <<< well... "going to", anyway.
    
    
    
    assbot: Message From Yellen: Let Them Eat “Noise” | David Stockman's Contra Corner
    
    punkman: ThickAsThieves: that gives an extra 0.23 BTC
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu: who wrote it?
    
    mircea_popescu: wrote what ?
    
    mircea_popescu: don't say "it" to me like it means something bish!!! i'm eighteen lines deep
    
    punkman: the tensed romanian text
    
    mircea_popescu: oh. lessee
    
    punkman: your "it" was the Bad Joke song, right?
    
    mircea_popescu: ya
    
    mircea_popescu: so it's mostly Cheloo (Cătălin Ștefan Ion), Ombladon (Bogdan Ionuț Păstacă) thyat write teh text thy play
    
    mircea_popescu: most of the stuff they write is practically chinese (ie, doesn't follow romanian topic conventions (as in most latin languages you can order the words either plainly or meaningfully in romanian), they layer an abundance of cultured reference in between common metaphor (which is a process of significating that goes one step further than the idiom, roughly used to be known in english as conceit back before the us was a t
    
    mircea_popescu: hing))
    
    mircea_popescu: and so trying to translate it mostly yields word salad
    
    mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete well she actually does have a point. the shreds of data people are making a big deal about are likely statistical noise.
    
    mircea_popescu: the systemic problems however... nobody wants to talk about those.
    
    mircea_popescu: lol that blondie vid is the tits. by her face you'd think she thinks she's singing inside a huge churning blender.
    
    BingoBoingo: OMG a recipe for word salad, where's dotcoin?
    
    Vexual: wait
    
    bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: myeah
    
    
    
    assbot: Blondie 1975 A Girl Should Know Better CBGB. - YouTube
    
    bitcoinpete: to use an analogy, fighting over a lifted toilet seat is easier than addressing the broken marriage
    
    mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxpe1oSp_sg << anyway, here's blondy back before she had fucked a truck and snorted a barge
    
    assbot: Blondie - Heart of Glass  1979 Video TopPop  stereo  widescreen - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: back when she had only fucked a regimen and snorted a pail
    
    mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-fabulous-baker-boys/ << the pfeiff plays something very akin to blondy in that. kickass filmn too
    
    assbot: The Fabulous Baker Boys pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
    
    penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-one-more-cut-before-the-big-show/
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 599.24, Best ask: 600.29, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 599.24, 24 hour volume: 4127.55171453, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 597.461641604
    
    bitcoinpete: and i'm off to the course. ciao!
    
    thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG.
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self)
    
    mircea_popescu: so he came ?
    
    thestringpuller: ^- was talking about the dream not RL
    
    thestringpuller: (if that was directed at me)
    
    
    
    assbot: Elizabeth Hurley and Patsy Kensit in "Kill Cruise" (1990) - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google pemphigus
    
    gribble: International Pemphigus Pemphigoid Foundation | a common hope ...: <http://www.pemphigus.org/>; Pemphigus Definition - Diseases and Conditions - Mayo Clinic: <http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pemphigus/basics/definition/con-20025041>; Pemphigus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemphigus>
    
    []bot: Bet placed: 5.01 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin incremental difficulty to increase by 3B or more" http://bitbet.us/bet/783/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.68721769 BTC. Current weight: 47,522.
    
    
    
    assbot: Daft Punk - Da Funk - YouTube
    
    BingoBoingo: %book
    
    atcbot: 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160
    
    mircea_popescu: lol that thing was even odds for a while
    
    Vexual: %diff
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 452941.55 in 146 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -36.68
    
    Vexual: fuck 6 months
    
    Vexual: :D
    
    BingoBoingo: %ticker
    
    atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
    
    Vexual: mmmm, the other satoshi
    
    Vexual: ican't belive it's not bitcoin
    
    
    
    assbot: ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube
    
    mircea_popescu: "A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found that 20% of heterosexual men had only one partner, 55% had two to twenty partners, and 25% had more than twenty partners."
    
    xmj: mircea_popescu: des the study list the median?
    
    mircea_popescu: those 5% lied and it's a neat 25-50-25 i bet
    
    Vexual: and mp had a speadsheet
    
    mircea_popescu: Vexual i have no idea how one can go through a lifetime and fuck less than a coupla dozen people.
    
    assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WGPF1R.txt )
    
    BingoBoingo: !b 4
    
    mircea_popescu: for that matter, i don't know how one can go through highschool thus.
    
    Vexual: i delete my logs weekly
    
    mircea_popescu: but it'd prolly be pretty sad, rather frustrating and quite boring
    
    Vexual: ;;calc 18/23
    
    gribble: 0.782608695652
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.04963532 = 2.9285 BTC [-] {27} 
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust muXne
    
    gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user muXne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=muXne | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=muXne | Rated since: Sun Jun 22 00:11:14 2014
    
    ThickAsThieves: fwiw the Bitcoin Foundation still hasn't provided the free membership they noted all Bitcoin2014 conference attendees would be eligible for
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;rate muXne Markov chain
    
    gribble: Error: 'Markov' is not a valid integer.
    
    ThickAsThieves: not that i want it
    
    ThickAsThieves: but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting
    
    Vexual: bastards.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00087364 = 37.1297 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: uh. how would they provide it ?
    
    Vexual: harry potter wand
    
    Vexual: hermione touches you and youre in
    
    ThickAsThieves: by making a account on their website of course
    
    ThickAsThieves: maybe getting added to some email list
    
    mircea_popescu: oh
    
    ThickAsThieves: then i can bitch at them in their forum
    
    mircea_popescu: i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list
    
    ThickAsThieves: it
    
    mircea_popescu: once you're on list X and they say list X got membership that's it, you got it
    
    Vexual: i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane
    
    ThickAsThieves: 's not really anything
    
    ThickAsThieves: i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :(
    
    mircea_popescu: lol so don't.
    
    Vexual: i want my 3 bc back
    
    ThickAsThieves: This Website is Not a Member
    
    mircea_popescu: btw, do we have any earl of dorset/rochester / pre-"glorious" revolution experts in attendance ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: no, that guy is busy filling out a survey about how many people he's slept with
    
    mircea_popescu: lol wut
    
    ThickAsThieves: sorry, vexual is contagious
    
    mircea_popescu: i wonder how many privately retained vexual interpretation experts exist so far.
    
    Vexual: im not one
    
    mircea_popescu: i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer.
    
    ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> im not one /// ha! i was gonna day 'does Vexual count?'
    
    Vexual: ive heard my trust clients are happy
    
    mircea_popescu: he can't count, no.
    
    Vexual: i can count
    
    Vexual: for a minute or two
    
    
    
    assbot: Rochester, "A Satyr against Reason and Mankind"
    
    Vexual: i prefered the one about the crow in the swamp
    
    Vexual: prettuer
    
    
    
    assbot: The Ballad Of Mabel Clare -  Henry Lawson - Poem - Australian Poetry Library
    
    mircea_popescu: australian poet ? seriously ?
    
    mircea_popescu: what is this, the future ?
    
    Vexual: yeah they have to have a punchline
    
    BingoBoingo: !jd mpif
    
    assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.40505278 BTC; +0.42724399 BTC (+0.2484%) since last check 1d 23h 33m 35s ago.
    
    mircea_popescu: look kako, jdice put mpif ahead. quick, do something!
    
    kakobrekla: rm -rf wallet.dat
    
    kakobrekla: ops wrong window.
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: usagi backups ?
    
    kakobrekla: no, i upgraded to no backup at all
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google no pok
    
    gribble: NO POK - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieDXIhci7o>; RK House - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDA_4DKrbM>; No Pork At All - Seven years and comment is non-stop! - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdguyMJprsA>
    
    BingoBoingo: !up cowloon
    
    asciilifeform: does somebody still have log gaps? i've got a nearly continuous ~90MB turd starting at oct. 2012
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can cut off the part past 1st of may 2013, mthreat can prolly use more copies for coherence.
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;rate muXne 1 Markov chain
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user muXne has been recorded.
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;later tell moiety What did you do to the Dogers nao???
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06192108 = 0.6192 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307234 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1213 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16615191009.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.41758
    
    BingoBoingo: What... the... fuck!
    
    mircea_popescu: ikr
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ba-turd.txt.gz
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat ^
    
    asciilifeform: ^ note that my clock is set to american east time
    
    mircea_popescu: danke
    
    BingoBoingo: !up bocobit
    
    asciilifeform realizes he did not perform the traditional 'year of lurk'
    
    BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition
    
    asciilifeform: when did btca materialize anyway ?
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform roughly speaking april 2012.
    
    mircea_popescu: but i only started using it seriously in august
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.77524885 BTC to 9`505 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7543 @ 0.00087 = 6.5624 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00086374 = 17.8794 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    dignork: Technocracy step I : http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1820&re=1
    
    assbot: Shtetl-Optimized  » Blog Archive   » Eigenmorality
    
    punkman: "So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject?  I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions.  The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how."
    
    mircea_popescu: lmao
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman who's this ?
    
    punkman: dignork's link
    
    mircea_popescu: o yea
    
    mircea_popescu: dignork maybe suggest this chan to the author ?
    
    dignork: I don't know him personally, will throw a comment
    
    mircea_popescu: !up ak__
    
    mircea_popescu: incidentally his definition is both a) quite strong and b) what i actually use
    
    mircea_popescu: the proposition that it's borne by history seems also quite defensible
    
    
    
    assbot: Morality Play
    
    
    
    assbot: Morality Play
    
    mircea_popescu: lol funny fit
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press. << OMG Trilema's jig is up!!!
    
    mircea_popescu: it's not teh press omg.
    
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    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.053 = 1.325 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10157 @ 0.00086735 = 8.8097 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.056 = 0.504 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: "So for example, even if someone is unfailingly nice to you, if that person is an asshole to everyone else, then the eigenmoses moral code would demand that you return the persons cooperation with icy defection."
    
    mircea_popescu: lol such bs.
    
    mircea_popescu: the model needs ego.
    
    mthreat: <+Azelphur> mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards  << myeah that'd be great
    
    ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> ThickAsThieves: You sure do use the disclaimers /// pretty pro, huh?
    
    thestringpuller: lol everytime MPOE goes below 800000 there is a buying frenzy
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah bro
    
    thestringpuller: 80000 sastoshi*
    
    thestringpuller: ugh
    
    mircea_popescu: Even though the measures acquit themselves well in this particular tournament, its admittedly easy to construct scenarios where the prescriptions of eigenjesus and eigenmoses alike violently diverge from most peoples moral intuitions.  Weve already touched on a few such scenarios above (for example, are you really morally obligated to lick the boots of someone who kicks you, just because that person is a saint
    
    mircea_popescu: to everyone other than you?). << dpends if you're aiming to lead or to follow.
    
    mircea_popescu: does anyone feel like putting some work into python simulation ?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05699475 = 0.6269 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    thestringpuller: python for simulations...? sound like it'll be running a long time...
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller academics, what do they know.
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman1 what are you doing these days ?
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28l0pf/most_blatant_extortion_ive_ever_seen_on/
    
    assbot: Most blatant extortion I've ever seen on localbitcoins.com forums : Bitcoin
    
    dignork: ThickAsThieves: the guy obviously doesn't know that LBC trades are going through escrow, so he can only damage some ratings. That is, unless buyers are clinical idiots, and release funds first.
    
    mircea_popescu: let's run through this dignork
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05699467 = 1.1399 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: you (D) want to buy LTC. Seller (S) and scammer (X) and escrow (E) are the other players.
    
    mircea_popescu: d contacts x, x contacts s, sets up deal with e, obtains bank acct.
    
    mircea_popescu: x sends bank acct to d, d pays to account, s receives it, s says so to e
    
    mircea_popescu: e releases ltc to x
    
    mircea_popescu: x disappears.
    
    mircea_popescu: escrow deals are easily defeated by triangulation, which is why wot is still a thing where escrow is a noob toy.
    
    mircea_popescu: rather than vice-versa.
    
    dignork: x will have to show his escrow balance, otherwise d won't pay
    
    mircea_popescu: d doesn't know to ask.
    
    mircea_popescu: x has a multitude of ways to fake it, too.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05592064 = 1.4539 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    dignork: this is d assumed to be an idiot, or x have non-trivial ability to impersonate e
    
    mircea_popescu: both are true to sufficient degree for the practical needs of the swindle in question.
    
    mircea_popescu: think of it, this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by the power rangers a) gave half a million btc to trendon shavers and then b) gave half a million btc to silk road
    
    mircea_popescu: thus creating a one million btc headache for me and everyone else seriously comitted to making btc the end of western style government.
    
    dignork: well, so e would be able to fight it in court, but e doesn't want to get into court in the first place, so yeah, it has some merits
    
    benkay: <ThickAsThieves> perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then // bitcoin crucifixion
    
    mircea_popescu: dignork for that matter, x can simply convey d's request for proof to e
    
    mircea_popescu: e has to satisfy it.
    
    mircea_popescu: x now can prove to d.
    
    mircea_popescu: now how many "escrows" on the "market" have the sense to include a "Issued for use of X" thus defeating this mitm ?
    
    mircea_popescu: yes, they have to be clinically brain injured, as you say. guess what ? they fucking are
    
    mircea_popescu: and they think this is fine and "a community"
    
    dignork: mircea_popescu: LBC can divert this attack, by making e submit bank details
    
    mircea_popescu: and fuck you for being mean and dispariging them
    
    dignork: then x won't be able to open a trading account with duplicate details
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe
    
    mircea_popescu: that's the most you get here, a sort of up and down and all around maybe.
    
    mircea_popescu: and by now yuour defense has reduced to trying to implement a broken sort of wot anyway
    
    dignork: it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache
    
    asciilifeform: dignork: whenever you see a field where it seems as if 'cryptography never happened' - answer is always a misallocation of 'skin in game'
    
    asciilifeform: e.g. bank doesn't eat the loss from fraud
    
    benkay: <mircea_popescu> sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her. // my favorite is the one who gets her own condo and a photo studio to play with and raise her kid in
    
    mircea_popescu: hey, mine too.
    
    mircea_popescu: dignork even if you take the banks out of it, the escrow model is still weak to distributed identity attacks
    
    mircea_popescu: which is a degenerate form taken by sybil attack in the degenerate wot that escrow is
    
    benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete <bitcoinpete> at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden // whence the startle?
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    mircea_popescu: and for that matter, this scam has a history older than steam. entreprising young american fellows used to canvass old world ads for girls looking to marry, then forward the details to old rich american to pay for thepassage
    
    mircea_popescu: and pick the girl up himself.
    
    mircea_popescu: women being a... consumable commodity, which once consumed has very strong incentives to stick
    
    asciilifeform: this scam will never die. every so often around here you hear of somebody caught stealing packages from doorsteps. same idea.
    
    asciilifeform: the thief may or may not have 'insider' tip on who just ordered new laptop, gold bar, etc
    
    mircea_popescu: and in principle, to make the point whole, for all those who wish the "good old days" were to return : they can not. they have been defeated in the field, through being weak to such things.
    
    mircea_popescu: i know for one i would never marry in other way than through making some old fart pay for it thus, were i living in 1814
    
    mircea_popescu: as a matter of principle.
    
    mircea_popescu: and so you can't have any sort of "conservative morality" predicated on anything in the set of ("women not being sluts", "god fearing", "wealth and power by age rather than with and connection")
    
    mircea_popescu: s/with/wit
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah maybe I can do a simulation
    
    asciilifeform: simulation of what ?
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman i would be very interested to see what happens if someone were to take the guy;'s idea, clean all the crap off it, and then add what's missing.
    
    mircea_popescu: by crap i mean, i suspect the academic used WAY TO FEW bots. use 100s of each type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar things.
    
    asciilifeform: ah that
    
    asciilifeform: ;;google social learning tournament
    
    gribble: Social Learning Strategies Tournament - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament1/sociallearning.html>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament II - The Laland Lab: <http://lalandlab.st-andrews.ac.uk/tournaments/tournament2/Social_Learning_Strategies_Tournament_II_Rules.pdf>; Social Learning Strategies Tournament | Facebook: (1 more message)
    
    mircea_popescu: and by what's missing, i mean ego. the bots must consider themselves equally important to the whole world.
    
    dignork: mircea_popescu: what kind of data do you want to use, current WoT is tiny
    
    mircea_popescu: which is, if this switch can either kill me or kill the world, throwing it is even odds.
    
    mircea_popescu: dignork random generated.
    
    asciilifeform: (think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids')
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall we discussingsomething similar months ago
    
    
    
    assbot: axelrod
    
    mircea_popescu: here we go
    
    mircea_popescu: omfg i love mthreat
    
    asciilifeform: the laland tourney is considerably more interesting imho
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu, I'll give it a look, see how much I grok
    
    mircea_popescu: works.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which one was that ?
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman prolly also drop the guy a link to the logs
    
    mircea_popescu: multiple sources can't hurt :p
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.055 = 2.145 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    assbot: Why Copy Others? Insights from the Social Learning Strategies Tournament
    
    asciilifeform: ^ paper on winners from Tourney 1
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman also, the bs "nice" has to be thrown out, it's meaningless. just count who starts wars.
    
    mircea_popescu: (which approach probably would improve the original paper a lot too, just re-do it but not counting totals, merely counting cases of backstabbing)
    
    mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part i find the lulziest about these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in the field, defeated by hundreds if not thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies.
    
    asciilifeform: the gods of spam - always win
    
    mircea_popescu: it's almost as if being a scientist consisted entirely of beating the cheap boarding houses and asylums to select out of the pox ridden old hags "the paragons of beauty"
    
    mircea_popescu: that perhaps they were, twenty years prior, back in their flap days
    
    mircea_popescu: (for the esl folk, a flap is an affectionate term for a prepubescent prostitute, also used for uppity, vivacious girls in general, as a testament to the traditional positive social view on tween prostitution)
    
    asciilifeform: seniority-based structure will do that.
    
    mircea_popescu: quite.
    
    asciilifeform: obligatory:
    
    asciilifeform: ;;google tarver decline and fall
    
    gribble: Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: <http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm>; my pdf copy: <http://babel.ls.fi.upm.es/~pablo/Jumble/decline.pdf>; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: <http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-05-28/news/39587015_1_first-degree-murder-second-degree-murder-former-hcc>
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1943 @ 0.00087151 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
    
    asciilifeform: 'You can routinely find lecturers with more than a hundred published papers and you marvel at these paradigms of human creativity.  These are people, you think, who are fit to challenge Mozart who wrote a hundred pieces or more of music.  And then you get puzzled that, in this modern world, there should be so many Mozarts - almost one for every department. The more prosaic truth emerges when you scan the titles
    
    asciilifeform: of these epics. First, the author rarely appears alone, sharing space with two or three others.  Often the collaborators are Ph.D. students who are routinely doing most of the spade work on some low grant in the hope of climbing the greasy pole. Dividing the number of titles by the author's actual contribution probably reduces those hundred papers to twenty-five. Then looking at the titles themselves, you'll see
    
    asciilifeform: that many of the titles bear a striking resemblance to each other.  "Adaptive Mesh Analysis" reads one and "An Adaptive Algorithm for Mesh Analysis" reads another. Dividing the total remaining by the average number of repetitions halves the list again. Mozart disappears before your very eyes.'
    
    mircea_popescu: i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms".
    
    benkay: "For wits are treated just like common whores:
    
    benkay: First they're enjoyed, and then kicked out of doors."
    
    mircea_popescu: how're enjoyin' the logs mr vulpes ?
    
    mircea_popescu: lol derp goes right into how "they've won the scientific debate on climate change"
    
    mircea_popescu: except "deniers make phony think tanks"
    
    asciilifeform: where's this
    
    mircea_popescu: same article above, with the bad model for evaluating bots.
    
    mircea_popescu: by now im quite thankful for this entire global warming scam. it saves me so much reading.
    
    asciilifeform: it's a scam of the desperation/starvation variety. armies of folks conned into burning their lives for 'degree' want to eat.
    
    asciilifeform: want to stave off Butugychag.
    
    mircea_popescu: in a sense their intuition is quite correct : the world is in fact ending.
    
    mircea_popescu: just, their world isn't really THE world. but then again who knows this ever.
    
    benkay: "Adore those shrines of virtue, homage pay,
    
    benkay: And, with the rabble world, their laws obey.
    
    benkay: If such there be, yet grant me this at least: [220]
    
    benkay: Man differs more from man, than man from beast."
    
    mircea_popescu: goatfuckers had a point all along huh
    
    benkay: log challenge doesn't grow less with the ability to parse it quickly - now all the time saved reading quickly and ignoring the noise goes into reading the things herein linked.
    
    benkay: particularly good reading today, mircea_popescu, ty to yourself and asciilifeform
    
    benkay: and i think punkman
    
    benkay: mmm. search engines.
    
    mircea_popescu: i think the deal is kako gets the praise for the logs,
    
    mircea_popescu: i just get the arguments
    
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    benkay: pfhah
    
    mircea_popescu: ha! now this may be a good formalisation of the vc problem. birdy whispers in my ear : "all those guys trying for financial dominance without intellectual dominance ? ya, that'll work..."
    
    mthreat: <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ?  << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file.  But I'm not sure what format kako wants.  search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results.
    
    mircea_popescu: ah
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what format would you want ?
    
    thestringpuller: !mpif
    
    assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021754 BTC (Total: 435.09 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat the linking is particularly useful tho. is the crawl inefficient ?
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: not really, it's pretty easy.
    
    mircea_popescu: cool
    
    mircea_popescu: past days don't change anyway so you do once a day as it were ?
    
    mthreat: once Iset up the cron, yeah something like that :)  Maybe twice a day, whatever.
    
    mircea_popescu: cool.
    
    benkay: this eigenmoses and eigenjesus stuff is interesting in that sir thomas moore follows the eigenjesus strategy
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay how do you figure ? and it's more
    
    mthreat: kako may choose to renumber the ids (used for the <a href> anchors) since he'll be backfilling prior to his current "epoch" day
    
    mthreat: if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0589999 = 1.711 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.0008669 = 18.5517 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: can just use negative
    
    mircea_popescu: seems more... apt.
    
    mthreat: heh... like 300 BC
    
    mircea_popescu: yup
    
    mthreat: we'll call it "BMT" before mthreat
    
    mircea_popescu: hahaha
    
    benkay: well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest
    
    mircea_popescu: you are not humble and therefore can not be given a ton of power.
    
    benkay: "Imagine, for instance, that 98% of the players are unfailingly nice to each other, but unfailingly cruel to the remaining 2% (who they can recognize, let’s say, by their long noses or darker skin—some trivial feature like that).  Meanwhile, the put-upon 2% return the favor by being nice to each other and mean to the 98%.  Who, in this scenario, is moral, and who’s immoral?  The mathematical verdict of both eigenmoses and eigenjesus is
    
    benkay: unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil.  After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone.  Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds.  But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay you read what, the book ? saw the movie ?
    
    benkay: i've only seen the movie.
    
    benkay: i'm referring to the character in the play/movie.
    
    mircea_popescu: yes well. more is a loyal subject of the king.
    
    mircea_popescu: what do you mean "work against" ?
    
    benkay: yeah, good question.
    
    mircea_popescu: what is this revolutionary scandalous licentiousness where a subject may be allowed to pass himself as moral agent equal to his sovereign ?
    
    benkay: i mean i need more coffee and a caning.
    
    benkay: but if the sovereign is demonstrably immoral and god sayeth otherwise?
    
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    mircea_popescu: a sovereign can not be demonstrably immoral tho is the problem
    
    benkay: my loyalty is first to god - and then the king.
    
    decimation: benkay: is that quote from the play?
    
    benkay: decimation: my tortured imagination.
    
    mircea_popescu: what quote
    
    asciilifeform: bus driver can demonstrably suck (machine careens of a cliff.) it does not follow that bus should be rebuilt with a steering wheel for each passenger - etc
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except what is a cliff ?
    
    benkay: divorce ;)
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass can not be distinguished from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes upon the monarch by loyal subjects
    
    mircea_popescu: this is yet again the degenerate form of the sybill attack for a degenerate wot
    
    mircea_popescu: there's very little difference between feudalism and escrow
    
    mircea_popescu: in fact, feudalism is a means of working land held in escrow.
    
    mircea_popescu: lemme try for proper english over here.
    
    benkay: it boils down to he who may destroy is the sovereign?
    
    mircea_popescu: loyal subjects can not distinguish the situation where the sovereign is a dumbass from the situation where evil people are prevailing with their treason and schemes.
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay you will note that more only forms a moral judgement once he is no longer subject to his king
    
    mircea_popescu: ie, once they get that schmuck to lie under oath and convict him of treason
    
    decimation: indeed, giving those loyal subjects universal sufferage solves nothing
    
    benkay: that's when he discloses it. it's clear he's had the opinion for a long time.
    
    mircea_popescu: no such thing is clear.
    
    benkay: hm
    
    decimation: that very point was the climax of the movie (man for all seasons)
    
    kakobrekla: mthreat dunno, csv, mysql, what have you got ?
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation nah, the climax was when he shows himself an eunuch
    
    mthreat: kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end.
    
    mircea_popescu: up to the point where he rebuffs roper you may entertain the notion more is a whole man. but after he admits he will grant the other's safety for his own safety's sake you know he's not.
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat ever got mine ?
    
    mthreat: belgium beats russia 1-0
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: yeah but asciilifeform's overlaps
    
    mircea_popescu: mine starts earlier im pretty sure ? or not ?
    
    kakobrekla: my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that.
    
    mircea_popescu: ideally this should be done once and cover the whole shjebang
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ship them to him ?
    
    mthreat: yours only had march/april 2013 I think
    
    mircea_popescu: 2012. look again.
    
    kakobrekla: but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
    
    mircea_popescu: and also ever got Azelphur's version ?
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: not yet
    
    kakobrekla: my logs are more work than worth
    
    mircea_popescu: kako a ok
    
    mthreat: kakobrekla: also you'll have to figure out how to number entries before your current entry #1 (April 26, 2013)
    
    kakobrekla: into negative ofc
    
    mircea_popescu: here's an interesting if unrelated point : what characteristic of classical english theatre, cca 1600s, was shared by both classical french and italian, but not ever since ? so that 99.x% of all good plays, all good actors and all good performances have this one thing in common, that's not been seen again ?
    
    mircea_popescu: (and the same holds for opera)
    
    decimation: exquisite set-making?
    
    mircea_popescu: mnope
    
    decimation: well, I don't have french or italian, but Shakspeare's plays were ... poetry
    
    mircea_popescu: turns out, it's that they were all produced for a small audience of the same people.
    
    mircea_popescu: consequently the producers were forced to iterate a lot and fail fast
    
    mircea_popescu: and the audience knew the craft better than any debutante.
    
    mircea_popescu: such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing.
    
    decimation: Thomas Carlyle on the wisdom of crowds: "Your ship cannot double Cape Horn by its excellent plans of voting. The ship may vote this and that, above decks and below, in the most harmonious exquisitely constitutional manner: the ship, to get round Cape Horn, will find a set of conditions already voted for, and fixed with adamantine rigour by the ancient Elemental Powers, who are entirely careless how you vote." http://books.google.com/
    
    assbot: Google Books
    
    decimation: books?id=5OsNAQAAMAAJ
    
    mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are
    
    mircea_popescu: "lo and behold, we should be affraid that democracy is now in peril of falling out of the box and revoting cape horn"
    
    decimation: the Patagonian cliffs care not for word-smithing and spinning
    
    benkay: i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla.  Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
    
    mircea_popescu: benkay problem is that approach contradicts the "world peace" approach. not burn anytihng at hand but clothe and feed anyone at hand ?
    
    decimation: one can simultaneously believe global warming is a scam and also consider the coal plant down the street to be ruinous
    
    mircea_popescu: would you rather have soot or shit ?
    
    decimation: plutonium for me
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ?
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation no no, "we should tax everything and put the money into '''research'''"
    
    mircea_popescu: only THAT is the correct way to solve all the world's p[roblems
    
    mircea_popescu: in other words, two mice disagreed once on how to split a chunk of cheese they had found. so the cat ate the cheese, and the mice.
    
    decimation: actually, at least one of the mice was probably on the cat's side
    
    decimation: after all, it's better to have no humans at all than to have kulaks etc
    
    mircea_popescu: yes. one of the mice was oi the cat's left side
    
    mircea_popescu: while the other in the right
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: yah you were correct.  But as you said, your log has gaps, so hopefully Azelphur's logs are more complete.
    
    mircea_popescu: hopefully ya
    
    mircea_popescu: to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
    
    mircea_popescu: let it not be said that irresponsible laziness has not made nice things
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is one of those weirdos who actually turns his computer on and off ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: yea
    
    decimation: well, one can be certain of its state when power is not applied
    
    
    
    decimation: save wake-on-lan nastiness
    
    mircea_popescu: no such thing
    
    asciilifeform: someone actually uses wake on lan !?!
    
    decimation: well, impi, remote access, all the same kind of thing
    
    asciilifeform: who the hell has impi on a 'human' box ?
    
    decimation: I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
    
    mircea_popescu: Instituto Mexicano de la Propiedad Industrial. Registre su marca hoy.
    
    decimation: but yeah, not on a workstation
    
    decimation: I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise
    
    asciilifeform: i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
    
    decimation: well, to me the major attraction beside the ip-kvm is the power cycle feature
    
    decimation: but that can be had for even less money honestly
    
    asciilifeform: the high-end kvm have power relays
    
    decimation: interestingly, old dell RAC cards had a feature where you could actually "view" the monitor over ssh
    
    asciilifeform: is ipmi one of those 'may as well hang for a sheep' affairs, where folks use intel cpu, etc and know they're already owned anyway
    
    asciilifeform: e.g. whore with aids might as well contract syphilis
    
    decimation: yeah you are right ascii, but you do realize that nearly all public and private entities in the US fall into that category
    
    decimation: here's how the SEC put it: http://investor.gov/news-alerts/investor-alerts/investor-alert-bitcoin-other-virtual-currency-related-investments
    
    assbot: Investor Alert: Bitcoin and Other Virtual Currency-Related Investments | Investor.gov
    
    decimation: "Not insured. While securities accounts at U.S. brokerage firms are often insured by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) and bank accounts at U.S. banks are often insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), bitcoins held in a digital wallet or Bitcoin exchange currently do not have similar protections."
    
    decimation: why would you want to live outside the benevolent "protection" of USG?
    
    decimation: honestly that "alert" is a pretty good pitch for Bitcoin
    
    thestringpuller: how would you even insure bitcoins and who would insure them?
    
    thestringpuller: only MP has the capital to actually insure anyone...
    
    thestringpuller: (insure anyone worht insuring)
    
    mircea_popescu: nobody can insure bitcoin in the sipc/fdic sense, because nobody can print them.
    
    mircea_popescu: that type of insurance is typical manufacturer insurance, "that the product be free of defects or replaced"
    
    thestringpuller: what about the sense of car insurance?
    
    mircea_popescu: and so in this sense, it's not that bitcoin isn't insured in that way. it's moreover that bank deposits etc aren't, and the continuance of the fraudulent pretense to the contrary promulgated by various usg agencies among which the sec above strictly depends on it not being needed.
    
    thestringpuller: wow
    
    thestringpuller: profound...
    
    thestringpuller: (cause it's true)
    
    decimation: mircea_popescu: Indeed, which is why this "alert" is so amusing.  "Seizing or freezing bitcoins. Law enforcement officials may have difficulty seizing or freezing illicit proceeds held in bitcoins. Bitcoin wallets are encrypted and unlike money held in a bank or brokerage account, bitcoins may not be held by a third-party custodian."
    
    decimation: Don't use Bitcoin because we can't take it away from you, at our option
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: but that's exactly the concept. my slavegirl might not want to visit you in a room you can lock at your option.
    
    decimation: so to be clear, it used to be the case that in order for someone to seize "your" money, they had to show up at your house and take your physical coins
    
    mircea_popescu: !up nerdfiles
    
    mircea_popescu: well yes, but this was before a time people expected the king pick up their apothecary bill.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05527325 = 2.7637 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    decimation: lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19735993 = 0.9868 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307250 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1197 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16522880011.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.7319
    
    mircea_popescu: decimation and so they have modified themselves. no man living with carlyle would regard the average existence of today's westerner as anything but the most abject imprisonment
    
    thestringpuller: ;;gettrust casascius
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user casascius: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=casascius | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=casascius | Rated since: Fri May 13 00:14:25 2011
    
    mircea_popescu: so... they've modified themselves, to take more cock with less fretting.
    
    moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    mircea_popescu: wait wut
    
    moiety: i upset the doge people last night
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0586998 = 0.6457 BTC [+]
    
    benkay: <zrobo> cryptsy.com: 1 dogecoin = 56 satoshis. coindesk price $0.0003. 24 hr volume: 310 megadoge
    
    
    
    assbot: celia basto | 100% art | 100% ART
    
    punkman: let there be blog http://extemporized.com/
    
    assbot: extemporized
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00087187 = 13.5576 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    chetty: moiety: don't you know women are not allowed to curse
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0586999 = 0.7631 BTC [-]
    
    kakobrekla: ;;later tell vexual log would be better off without your jewtube links.
    
    gribble: The operation succeeded.
    
    moiety: chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.0586999 = 1.5262 BTC [-]
    
    penguirker: New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/introducing-bitbet-py/
    
    penguirker: New blog post: http://extemporized.com/2014/hello-world/
    
    ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing.  //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
    
    FabianB: mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so  unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there
    
    mircea_popescu: FabianB kk
    
    mircea_popescu: <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ?
    
    assbot: extemporized
    
    ThickAsThieves: sweet
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the smaller it gets, the harder it is to say
    
    mircea_popescu: "democracy" as practiced among a hundred that know each other is no democracy anyway
    
    ThickAsThieves: understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
    
    ThickAsThieves: i also wonder if age is a factor as well
    
    ThickAsThieves: probably on a curve
    
    chetty: ThickAsThieves,avg life in the time frame was short, if you lived very long you likely had more wisdom (which is why you lived)
    
    ThickAsThieves: i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever
    
    chetty: not sure age counts for much anymore
    
    ThickAsThieves: age of the group
    
    ThickAsThieves: not the individual
    
    ThickAsThieves: maybe inextricable
    
    chetty: I think closed is kinda relative tho, more like the semi-permeable membrane
    
    ThickAsThieves: like #b-a
    
    chetty: exactly
    
    chetty: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_JURORS_SOCIAL_MEDIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-22-11-58-35
    
    assbot: News from The Associated Press
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00086737 = 1.4312 BTC [-]
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://btcoracle.com/index.php  is this OneFixt?
    
    assbot: BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading
    
    ThickAsThieves: !up OneFixt
    
    OneFixt: yup
    
    OneFixt: wait, no
    
    ThickAsThieves: lol
    
    OneFixt: not me, misread
    
    OneFixt: lol
    
    ThickAsThieves: good to know
    
    ThickAsThieves kinda misses btc options
    
    ThickAsThieves: coindesk has to articles about people offering bitcoin options, neither mentions mpex
    
    mircea_popescu: well it doesn't offer them anymore
    
    mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm. the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large.
    
    Mats_cd03: i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00086529 = 35.6499 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: there's little incentive for it yet.
    
    ThickAsThieves: look at that boner https://icbit.se/WebTrade/Trading.aspx
    
    assbot: ICBIT Web Trading
    
    mircea_popescu: OneFixt you got teh logs ?
    
    OneFixt: which logs?
    
    mircea_popescu: of here.
    
    OneFixt: some, why?
    
    mircea_popescu: ah. well we're trying to make a canonical version of 2012 - april 2013
    
    mircea_popescu: if you got usable stuff dump to mthreat
    
    OneFixt: ah
    
    OneFixt: mine is not at all easy to dump unfortunately
    
    mircea_popescu: kay.
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.1, Best ask: 598.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.05000, Last trade: 598.15, 24 hour volume: 4096.67247212, 24 hour low: 587.82, 24 hour high: 605.05, 24 hour vwap: 598.315804175
    
    FabianB: $traded
    
    empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
    
    penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/unii-sunt-putin-luati-da-altii-saracii-sunt-luati-rau-de-tot-mai-frate/
    
    []bot: Bet created: "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/
    
    []bot: Bet created: "Facebook stock to close at over $70 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/957/
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00086276 = 5.4785 BTC [-]
    
    Namworld: Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
    
    mthreat: split 7-to-1
    
    []bot: Bet created: "Haruki Murakami to win lit Nobel" http://bitbet.us/bet/958/
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0560047 = 0.56 BTC [+]
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: have you managed to find good pizza in this town?
    
    mircea_popescu: mthreat american good pizza or romanian good pizza ?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05597559 = 1.1195 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    mthreat: mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza
    
    mthreat: #1, HAS tomato sauce
    
    mircea_popescu: it's kjinda it's own thing. imo better than italian.
    
    mthreat: here it's mostly bread and cheese
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D
    
    mthreat: magic
    
    mircea_popescu: but yes, tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu: <punkman> let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? << yes
    
    assbot: extemporized
    
    punkman: I think I should make a special feed for penguin though
    
    mircea_popescu: seems it picks it up jus' fine
    
    punkman: lest there be two dozen recipes posted one day
    
    punkman: did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog
    
    mircea_popescu: nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@!
    
    mthreat: There was this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was  called "Dracula".
    
    []bot: Bet created: "Anyone other than Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez to win the 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or" http://bitbet.us/bet/959/
    
    mircea_popescu: surprisingly.
    
    punkman: so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions?
    
    assbot: Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books
    
    punkman: "upon the time" ftw
    
    punkman: feeling russian
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all the math one could ever want.
    
    mircea_popescu: if it doesn't DO something it's not math anyway.
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: 'All the Mathematics You Missed' (Garrity) if impatient/american
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: otherwise what mircea_popescu said
    
    mircea_popescu: wow someone agrees ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: i thought that's like, my most heretic view.
    
    asciilifeform: the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text
    
    asciilifeform: i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers
    
    asciilifeform: also ask yourself, which mathematics
    
    
    
    assbot: Course of Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    
    asciilifeform: l&l is geared to methods of theoretical physics (landau's famous 'minimum' exam)
    
    asciilifeform: punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman
    
    asciilifeform: http://faraday.fie.umich.mx/~rrusiles/Fie/Horizontal/Hopcroft_Introduction_to_Automata_Theory_Languages_and_Computation.pdf
    
    asciilifeform: ^ unfortunately not the edition with the hot chick on the cover
    
    asciilifeform: but full text
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05300046 = 0.583 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    punkman: I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/
    
    thestringpuller: punkman: bitbet.py is dope
    
    
    
    assbot: Iraq, oil markets, and the U.S. economy | Econbrowser
    
    thestringpuller: I'll have to see how you did colorization
    
    Mats_cd03: and... http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/3-reasons-Iraq-conflict-isn-t-driving-up-gas-5569945.php
    
    assbot: 3 reasons Iraq conflict isn't driving up gas prices (yet) - SFGate
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman that is a point
    
    mircea_popescu: by now the research paper journals are little more than blogs anyway.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.01735 = 1.3533 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public,
    
    mircea_popescu: on it goes. 5 reasons why fucking up is okay and starvation isn't imminent.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8353 @ 0.00085902 = 7.1754 BTC [-]
    
    thestringpuller: 5 conspiracy theories that are actually real
    
    thestringpuller: more at 11
    
    punkman: heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while."
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05699603 = 1.1969 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    decimation: thanks for the book asciilifeform
    
    BingoBoingo: %diff
    
    atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 450695.27 in 113 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.00
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00084838 = 28.2171 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    punkman: BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet
    
    BingoBoingo: punkman: Yeah, it's going to be tricky. Wonder how much hash is going to arrive after the diff change
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24 * 3600  / 512
    
    gribble: 168.75
    
    punkman: so we must be doing like 100 a day now?
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;calc 168.75 * .63
    
    gribble: 106.3125
    
    punkman: mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop.
    
    mircea_popescu: so make 400 bots, 20 of each type, meet everyone 500 times and play for n where the probability is .95
    
    Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: forgot the '(yet)'.
    
    mircea_popescu: 0.995 is bullshit, 200 rounds average ? wtf.
    
    mircea_popescu: but, importantly, give them ego.
    
    punkman: if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it
    
    Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307282 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1165 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16351547351.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45924
    
    mircea_popescu: let's.
    
    
    
    assbot: IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master  tscizzle/IPD_Morality  GitHub
    
    mircea_popescu: specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot.
    
    mircea_popescu: b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type
    
    mircea_popescu: c) each bot has idem 0 to 20 of their type and also 0 to 5 of all types.
    
    mircea_popescu: all bots know the adversary's hitory with themselves
    
    mircea_popescu: now, on this information, each both has an ego, defined as the balance between the weight they give their own history vs the collected world history
    
    mircea_popescu: a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego.
    
    mircea_popescu: the bot that only cares of its own history has max, and the bot that ignores its own has min.
    
    mircea_popescu: these are also per-bot factors
    
    mircea_popescu: then let them play.
    
    asciilifeform: just one thing missing here
    
    asciilifeform: what's a tourney without... a prize.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the prize is their life.
    
    asciilifeform: lol
    
    Mats_cd03: lol.
    
    punkman: they get bigger number when they win
    
    punkman: they like number
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: and srlsly, ditch the dumbass "total wot score" model they use
    
    mircea_popescu: just count betrayals.
    
    mircea_popescu: how people pretending to be in math and philosophy can be this fucking dumb is beyond me.
    
    mircea_popescu: next they're going to count the holes in the mains socket to get the voltage.
    
    punkman: the bots only know past moves during the current round as it is
    
    mircea_popescu: yes but from what i've seen, as a sum
    
    mircea_popescu: not as the all-crucial "he y'd you you n'd him"
    
    punkman: no it's a list of all previous moves
    
    mircea_popescu: a is it ?
    
    mircea_popescu: that's ok then
    
    punkman: (in the current round)
    
    punkman: no knowledge about world/environment
    
    mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart
    
    mircea_popescu: you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one
    
    mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it.  A special class was laid on for stu
    
    mircea_popescu: dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term.  It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students.
    
    punkman: " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make  a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account."
    
    punkman: "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides  the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy."
    
    mircea_popescu: moves can be used as a ticker
    
    mircea_popescu: todo seems spurious.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: other screeds by tarver: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog
    
    assbot: Popular Essays
    
    mircea_popescu: If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content.
    
    mircea_popescu: i actually read this before.
    
    punkman: I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant
    
    punkman: *fork
    
    asciilifeform: ^ tarver does not shit gold, not all necessarily worth reading
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman not bad. ICBE
    
    mircea_popescu: soon you'll get investors.
    
    punkman: from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that  one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either  player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what  he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag."
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares.
    
    punkman: yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament
    
    mircea_popescu: punkman for that matter, let people handpick lol
    
    mircea_popescu: human bot impersonators, that's epic
    
    mircea_popescu: hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie.
    
    mircea_popescu: this, quite very much.
    
    mircea_popescu: western women aspire to the respect of men, while living their western lives ?! lolk.
    
    mircea_popescu: i'd rather respect indian hajira.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.05201126 = 1.9764 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05201145 = 0.5201 BTC [+]
    
    asciilifeform: from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html
    
    assbot: A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types
    
    mircea_popescu: "et in arcadia ego" dumbass.
    
    asciilifeform: shoddy troll is shoddy, 'longcat is long,' news at 11
    
    mircea_popescu: no dude. legolas, definiely legit.
    
    mircea_popescu: - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I dont know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thors Hammer on it.
    
    mircea_popescu: should be on reddit.
    
    asciilifeform: (some weirdo actually sent me the link)
    
    mircea_popescu: " The Dark Enlightenment allegedly has millions of dollars of money to play with."
    
    mircea_popescu: orly.
    
    mircea_popescu: what, like almost 1k btc ?
    
    asciilifeform: i think that was meant to imply mr. thiel
    
    mircea_popescu: Different forms of formal attire were required for each day (tuxedos, 3-piece suits, etc)
    
    mircea_popescu: dude!
    
    mircea_popescu: ah this is great lol
    
    asciilifeform: ('island' - obvious tipoff)
    
    mircea_popescu: "For the initial oath taking, everyone must swear on a copy of Darwins Origin of Species, just to show their fidelity to HBD"
    
    asciilifeform: (thiel actually exists, is said to hang out with 'moldbuggerers')
    
    mircea_popescu: ahgagaga wait, wait what
    
    punkman: I put on my robe and wizard hat
    
    mircea_popescu: i keep waiting for the biscuit already
    
    mircea_popescu: they're doing the sweaing on the ilyad and drinking out of specially made pornoi cups
    
    mircea_popescu: - They also have all their own secret handshakes, and their own terminology [like the Cathedral ("political correctness"), thedening ("re-establishing ethnic group identity"), genophilia ("love of one's own race"), NRx ("neoreaction"), etc.].
    
    mircea_popescu: well i guess we gotta ipo it now
    
    mircea_popescu: "But of course, cannibalism is not PC either and embracing something simply and solely on the basis that it is a reaction is one of the stupidest things humans can do. You cant build a life on protest and reaction." <<< ahahaha
    
    mircea_popescu: the entire fucking left is built on reaction, from the 60s onwards.
    
    mircea_popescu: i would guess that yeah, you can't.
    
    BingoBoingo: %ticker
    
    atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222
    
    BingoBoingo: %bok
    
    BingoBoingo: %b
    
    BingoBoingo: %book
    
    atcbot: 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160
    
    moiety: i sensed biscuits. i should have an IPO of bear biscuits
    
    mircea_popescu: moiety you can't possibly be privy to what i meant by biscuits ?!
    
    moiety: i don't think i am at all
    
    moiety: hence my leaps to shortbread in bear form
    
    mircea_popescu: ah yeah.
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google cum biscuit
    
    gribble: Soggy biscuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soggy_biscuit>; Urban Dictionary: cum biscuit: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cum%20biscuit>; Urban Dictionary: soggy biscuit: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soggy%20biscuit>
    
    moiety: oh!
    
    moiety: well then, i'll be shutting up now
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008496 = 4.5454 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 307288 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16357998925.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.50716
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0008431 = 34.82 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.05037493 = 2.1157 BTC [-] {9} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.04647775 = 2.9281 BTC [-] {14} 
    
    moiety: !up chax
    
    moiety: hello
    
    chax: Howdy!
    
    moiety: :] what brings you here?
    
    moiety: lol kbai
    
    benkay: chax is working on a bitcoin-api-as-a-service thinger
    
    moiety: !up chax thought i scared you there XD
    
    moiety: thanks benkay
    
    benkay: hey chax
    
    benkay: slow sunday?
    
    Mats_cd03: :(
    
    benkay: such connection issues...
    
    benkay: and from a SaaS vendor rep...
    
    Mats_cd03: that title seems premature
    
    Mats_cd03: is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today
    
    benkay: wallet api?
    
    benkay: nah
    
    benkay: don't think so
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04105652 = 0.9443 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04056994 = 0.6085 BTC [-]
    
    moiety: i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along
    
    moiety: have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour
    
    benkay: miserable.
    
    kakobrekla: bnc
    
    Mats_cd03: use a bouncer.
    
    Mats_cd03: or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud
    
    kakobrekla: yeah, you also get a nice free nsa backups with that
    
    mircea_popescu: !up Yoko__
    
    moiety: i thoughti had a bouncer built in with this and thats why i didnt timeout, will investigate
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.035793 = 1.7897 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.035 = 1.505 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082942 = 8.0039 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.033 = 5.115 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03283 = 3.283 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00082811 = 20.6199 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02200002 = 0.836 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.022 = 1.122 BTC [-] {4} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.02131429 = 0.746 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    thestringpuller: ;;ud cray
    
    gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray | No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets people going.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.02775205 = 0.7771 BTC [-] {9} 
    
    thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :(
    
    mircea_popescu: maybe.
    
    thestringpuller: maybe is better than never lol
    
    benkay: gotta have a price signal first
    
    thestringpuller: should just open up an exchange in antarctica
    
    thestringpuller: or on the moon
    
    moiety: i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually
    
    Mats_cd03: http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081766 = 13.0826 BTC [-]
    
    benkay: tardigrade, but close
    
    benkay: tardi gribble
    
    benkay: late bots
    
    moiety: ergh! Mats_cd03! ok so maybe not that one, he looks angry! imeant this one http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01247/gribble_1247958c.jpg
    
    moiety: !up extra
    
    moiety: !up pennies
    
    moiety: !up Lycerion
    
    extra: thanks
    
    pennies: thank you
    
    moiety: you're welcome :]
    
    Lycerion: thanks
    
    moiety: np :] welcome to -assets?
    
    moiety: assets*
    
    moiety: what do you do?
    
    extra: mostly lose money trading
    
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    benkay: !b 2
    
    benkay: ;;gettrust extra
    
    gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user extra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=extra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=extra | Rated since: never
    
    pennies: so what is this place?
    
    benkay: a house of ill repute
    
    pennies: i want to be apart of this lovely place
    
    pennies: i am a seeker of lovely places
    
    benkay: ;;ident pennies
    
    gribble: Nick 'pennies', with hostmask 'pennies!423790bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.55.144.187', is not identified.
    
    benkay: i don't think apart means what you think it means, pennies
    
    pennies: why?
    
    benkay: well if one is apart from a thing one is not a part of it
    
    benkay: ;;google define apart
    
    gribble: Apart | Define Apart at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apart>; Apart - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart>; Apart from - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart%20from>
    
    benkay: to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride.
    
    benkay: but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust
    
    benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust
    
    gribble: #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>; #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>
    
    pennies: i feel unwanted
    
    Mats_cd03: benkay is a semantic asshole, don't take it personally
    
    benkay: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mashed-potato-spillage-closes-yorkshire-road-for-five-hours-9554812.html
    
    assbot: Mashed potato spillage closes Yorkshire road for five hours - Home News - UK - The Independent
    
    benkay: well pennies why would anyone want you?
    
    benkay: gotta d that h v
    
    Mats_cd03: moiety: heh
    
    moiety: lol extra
    
    extra: sup moiety
    
    benkay: semantic asshole
    
    moiety: how do people find here without knowing what it is
    
    moiety: or looking at topics
    
    extra: who says I didn't read the topic
    
    moiety: not you extra, i meant pennies
    
    moiety: !up chax
    
    extra: pennies is just a retard
    
    extra: but we love him
    
    moiety: welcome back chax
    
    moiety: oh you all know each other? how so?
    
    extra: random btc trading channels
    
    Mats_cd03: what do i look like? a poet? shit
    
    moiety: lmao at the mashed potato benkay, reminds me of the overflowing pizza dough
    
    benkay: Mats_cd03: wouldja put that in my rating pplease? "semantic asshole"
    
    benkay: i thought you'd appreciate that moiety
    
    Mats_cd03: as it is in heaven
    
    moiety: well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :]
    
    moiety: i did benkay :D
    
    moiety: also updated guide is in the wiki
    
    moiety: hi peterl
    
    peterl: hi moiety and everybody
    
    benkay: how've you been sir
    
    benkay: !up extra
    
    moiety: kakobrekla, Mats_cd03 .. is psyBNC ok enough to use?
    
    moiety: !up Lycerion
    
    nubbins`: pbbt
    
    thestringpuller: nubbins`: what's da stats on dat shirt
    
    benkay: oh holy hell logsearch is great
    
    thestringpuller: no rush
    
    thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added?
    
    mthreat: benkay: thanks!
    
    thestringpuller: yea mthreat gangsta shit
    
    benkay: mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front
    
    mthreat: oldest trick in the book
    
    benkay: ;;rate mthreat 1 knows who to pay off
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.0008182 = 3.5093 BTC [+]
    
    Mats_cd03: got bored, thought I'd read last year's logs from this day
    
    Mats_cd03: bitcoin935:voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life
    
    Mats_cd03: bitcoin935:voorhees is going to get whats coming to him
    
    Mats_cd03: where is your god now
    
    thestringpuller: HOLY SHIT
    
    thestringpuller: that's funny as fuck
    
    mthreat: benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right
    
    mthreat: (from the http log, i mean)
    
    mthreat: or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field
    
    benkay: yeah that's weird
    
    benkay: glad that shit's not my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    
    thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money...
    
    thestringpuller: lol
    
    Mats_cd03: moiety: ya i have heard good things about it
    
    
    
    assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
    
    dub: didn't it hit close to 5?
    
    benkay: no but don't get me wrong mthreat - it's awesome and i'm quite thrilled to have it
    
    thestringpuller: lol...history...fuck...gettin' old
    
    benkay: but from's behavior is totally weird
    
    Mats_cd03: meanwhile goat brags about 4M in fiat to random
    
    Mats_cd03: cute
    
    mthreat: benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right?
    
    thestringpuller: whatever happened to goat? Do I have to just read or can someone give me tl;dr ?
    
    nubbins`: not sure
    
    Namworld: He's living the good life in thailand I think
    
    nubbins`: still on the forums
    
    Mats_cd03: ;;seen chaang-noi
    
    gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> might have to sue em
    
    thestringpuller: i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that...
    
    Namworld: Pops around ever other month
    
    Mats_cd03: lol.
    
    
    
    assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
    
    
    
    assbot: #bitcoin-assets log