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CryptoConsultor: you got post secondary ed before then?
CryptoConsultor: I did a few years at NAIT, but IRC taught me more then any classroom
benkay: CryptoConsultor: what pays the bills for you now?
benkay: what is this 'industrial' you mention - word means a lot of things in a lot of contexts.
CryptoConsultor: Industrial Electrician with specialty in PLC work
benkay: ah ha
benkay: production line installations and programming etc?
CryptoConsultor: Industrial - Mining
benkay: gotcha
CryptoConsultor: Yea automated coal processing plant and Diesel Electric drive controls
benkay: so what do you plan to do with yourself in btc?
bitcoinpete: !up CryptoConsultor
CryptoConsultor: I gotta work out this gribble stuff to keep my voice eh?
CryptoConsultor: BTC has captured my soul and I am now it's slave for life
benkay: great attitude lol
CryptoConsultor: If you know my background you'd say it was unavoidable
CryptoConsultor: I'm pretty good at anaylizing complex systems
CryptoConsultor: And this stuff give me a huge nerdgasm
CryptoConsultor: It gets my nerdglaze all over the place
CryptoConsultor: I was stunned when I went to the Calgary Comic Convention and NOBODY was talkin Bitcoin
CryptoConsultor: I'm gonna change that
CryptoConsultor: My nerd brethren let me down
bitcoinpete: comicers like their little imaginary boxes
bitcoinpete: finance is to real
TheNewDeal: they are the yesternerds
CryptoConsultor: they sure gave up on computer science
bitcoinpete: they're nerds, we're geeks
bitcoinpete: geeks can function in the real world
CryptoConsultor: well if I have to set up in convention center I will. they seem the best crowd to jump on the bandwagon next
bitcoinpete: and more than function, geeks can own the world
CryptoConsultor: I'm well aware of that
bitcoinpete: comicnerds aren't the next anything
bitcoinpete: bitcoin is going to the upper crust and/or making its own
CryptoConsultor: Your attention on wall street pretty hard?
bitcoinpete: my attention is here and needn't be elsewhere
bitcoinpete: it's wall street's attention that will follow
CryptoConsultor: You guys notice when their movements with ease?
CryptoConsultor: Well let's back up first...
TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network?
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel << gonna say no
mike_c: TheNewDeal: mergemining
CryptoConsultor: gotta grab a quick refill
TheNewDeal: I understand that it is mergmined, but the fact that a coin is mergmined does not guarantee anyone considers it worth mining, no?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. << à la kyle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 216 @ 0.003001 = 0.6482 BTC [-]
mike_c: TheNewDeal: true.. but i am seeing the same numbers as you. 45 ph/s
bitcoinpete: TheNewDeal: 45.239 Phash/s… but how?
TheNewDeal: methinks that people must believe it is worth mining
TheNewDeal: judging by the numbers, half as worthy
CryptoConsultor: isn't namecoin tied to decentralized DNS?
CryptoConsultor: or do I got wires crossed?
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: pretty mucho
TheNewDeal: they are crossed correctly
bitcoinpete: there's a fantastically intense couple's fight going on in the apartment next door
TheNewDeal: I'm actually just beginning to read about it now, after it being mentioned yeshterday in the lawgs
bitcoinpete: these late 19th century brick buildings don't shield sound like newer ones
TheNewDeal: if you swoop in at the right time, you could get some revenge sex
peterl: TheNewDeal: I think it was me you are thinking of with the gpg signed letter
CryptoConsultor: I can ident on gribble with a bitcoin address too?
TheNewDeal: ahh, so few petes, so easy to confuse
bitcoinpete: peterl: right!
peterl: hey, I'm peter, he is pete
bitcoinpete: forgot about that...
TheNewDeal: they're all petes to me
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: myeah
peterl: and MP did not force me to write it, he just made a friendly suggestion
TheNewDeal: half of what I say is gibberish, and must be taken for granted
TheNewDeal: bc, stats
cazalla: almost all of you are named either peter or paul
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 304597 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11643866275.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.95849
TheNewDeal: oh my gribbles this has been a slow start to the diff change
peterl: cazalla: don't forget the marys
peterl: isn't there a bitbet about difficulty dropping?
TheNewDeal: I'm going to put out TheNewDeal's current prediction of 6.9% increase
cazalla: i think you mean marie but i get confused myself
bitcoinpete: []bot: Bet created: "Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion" http://bitbet.us/bet/888/ << pretty much no other choices
assbot: BitBet - Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`893 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: yes and it pays out 1.32 at 1 BTC with a timeweight of only 6,000
TheNewDeal: but you would be betting basically that one of the next two diff changes is going to be negative
TheNewDeal: crawling over bitbets is my second job
bitcoinpete: ok, i'm crashing
bitcoinpete: thanks for dropping by CryptoConsultor
CryptoConsultor: Yea cheers pete
CryptoConsultor: I'll keep reading up on this gribble guy. He's a lot more fancy than the eggbots I used to know
CryptoConsultor: Thanks for the invite too
TheNewDeal: gribble's a boss, but he's notorious for underpredicting diff increases
TheNewDeal: ;;rate gribble 1 notorious for underpredicting difficulty increases
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user gribble has been recorded.
peterl: !up CryptoConsultor
CryptoConsultor: ok I think I got reg with gribble now. Is that assbot going to stop -v me?
mike_c: ;;ident CryptoConsultor
gribble: Nick 'CryptoConsultor', with hostmask 'CryptoConsultor!~Hoodmin@S0106000f66a91966.hn.shawcable.net', is not identified.
peterl: you also have to be in assbot's L2 trust to voice yourself
peterl: ;;gettrust assbot CryptoConsultor
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CryptoConsultor: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CryptoConsultor | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CryptoConsultor | Rated since: never
BingoBoingo: dooglus: I assumed you paid him as he claimed, because soon afterwards his confessional went missing (Kingofsports that is)
BingoBoingo: CryptoConsultor: Probably part of the reason is that gribble isn't an eggbot, forked supybot
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
dooglus: BingoBoingo: I don't remember, but I don't think i would have given him anything
dooglus: BingoBoingo: I published his piece on the blog, and allowed him to put up a donation address
BingoBoingo: dooglus: His confessional may have mentioned Deb instead. I only remember the matter because I at one point sold him some single bitcoins until he got pissy I wouldn't sell him tens and send first at the same time.
assbot: Just-News @ Just-Dice: Gambling Addiction - KOS
dooglus: assbot: that'll be 1 mBTC for reading that post please ;)
Vexual: now theres a man who knows how to gamble
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? << intel ?
Vexual: gambling rehab should teach mathematics
dooglus: and paragraphs
mircea_popescu: isnt .1 cent a bit expoensive ?
peterl: expensive for what?
mircea_popescu: for assbot
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete:
mircea_popescu: other_mp: you should see the jewish section btw.>> like so? http://wander-argentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WA-jewsinba-kosherMcDs.jpg << nah, like 1930 warsaw.
peterl: does assbot pay for trilema credits?
Vexual: no, the header is free
peterl: MP gives head for free?
mircea_popescu: mike_c: the blonde bomber better win << don't hate halep just because she is young and eager and in better shape and scrappy
mircea_popescu: and going to win
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" << that ain't gonna work.
Vexual: id hope not
asciilifeform: mike_c: you couldn't find one example of ascii promoting s.nsa shares << well, let's be fair, i never said 'don't do it' - hence, wagen.
asciilifeform: decimation: GHz 7400 parts: ECL?
asciilifeform: decimation: ECL easily gives you 50-80 GHz
asciilifeform: decimation: no exotic chemistries, either - ordinary Si.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 were you going for norway << that was diametric
mircea_popescu: !up jborkl
mircea_popescu: well so ave him read taleb
jborkl: Thank you
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? < it's mergemined
mircea_popescu: the correct construction is that "about half bitcoin miners also merge namecoin"
jborkl: That sounds correct
asciilifeform: Vexual: gambling rehab should teach mathematics << what'll they teach in mathematics rehab ?
mircea_popescu: how to chase skirts.
peterl: didn't John Nash have a big breakthrough in math while chasing skirts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764989 = 0.3825 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: peterl: in the american film, where he was straight
peterl: what, you mean the film does not stay true to the original story? I'm shocked /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all for me. tomorrow!
jborkl: Mircea if you have not been by the site lately. I just finished the diff calculator.
jborkl: And a whole bunch of other shit
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I forgot about ECL. The point is, discrete logic need not be slow. However, at high speeds propagation delay is going to be a serious issue, which implies distributed clockless dataflow design.
asciilifeform: decimation: which is why the 'real fun' would be muller's 'c-gate', which doesn't care about delay
asciilifeform: and needs no clock
asciilifeform: 'How long can something be held as wrong before its practice is discontinued? A long, very long time, much longer than we think.' << from mp's taleb page. in our case, synchronous logic.
asciilifeform: it's just braindamaged.
asciilifeform: c-gate is known since '58.
asciilifeform: (no, not a typo)
asciilifeform off to bed
decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.02599264 = 0.5718 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07573307 = 0.3787 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.01981674 = 1.1296 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.0238 = 0.6426 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253969 = 0.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29 = 1.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28600498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17105 @ 0.00085348 = 14.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253995 = 0.254 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07648301 = 0.2294 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07648302 = 0.4589 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07461028 = 1.0445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00085346 = 10.3269 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02392685 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07431252 = 0.5202 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0258 = 0.1032 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0743 = 0.5201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00085292 = 20.1289 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [-]
dub: so much trollin in the btc
assbot: Remember the guy who gambled 50.25 BTC away 1 week ago? : Bitcoin
fluffypony: that is so sad
fluffypony: that dude needs help stat
fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00085216 = 23.8179 BTC [-] {4}
dub: help is only a bullet away
cazalla: how would that stop them gambling
cazalla: they had an inquiry on gambling addiction here in australia due to all the degenerates spending their kids lunch money on poker machines
cazalla: result was counselling was a waste of time and money
fluffypony: cazalla: I dunno, I've never known anyone in that situation, so I'm not sure how you stop them
fluffypony: besides a swift kick to the balls every time they want to gamble
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07399999 = 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0742654 = 1.1882 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0201997 = 0.2828 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.02736326 = 2.7363 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07461733 = 1.4923 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074699 = 0.1494 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
assbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: "@fluffyponny @jurov @davout @pankkake please stay out now from this postings, everyone know now that only 4 or 5 guys from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ IRC chat only claims problems with us how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more, each forum member looks to your profile history can see that the only people accuse others of scam are a small group talking 24
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
fluffypony: hours in a IRC chat and think about who is next they can accuse of shit things! Poor very poor!"
pankkake: this is actually accurate. but after all, most things are a scam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16543 @ 0.00085078 = 14.0745 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming
pankkake: I have a wide definition of scam :) claiming competence while you don't have it = scam
danielpbarron: how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more << the false teachers make an identical claim; not much difference when it comes to scammers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00248735 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: Central Bankers Argue Digital Currency Requires Institutional Control
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0024 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank"
Apocalyptic: missed the entire point, sadly
pankkake: it's the coindesk/reddit thinking that bitcoin is only about payments, forgetting the digital gold
fluffypony: ;;gettrust frankenmint
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: never
fluffypony: ;;rate frankenmint 1 OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses << english propaganda is generally not to be taken seriously.
mircea_popescu: there's genuine anti english sentiment here, much like there's genuine anti-muslim and anti-indian sentiment in the uk.
mircea_popescu: the governments generally do the best practicable to manage it, the opposition generally accuse the government of pandering
mircea_popescu: then pander when in power.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? << what's that to help ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I feel bad for the guy
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
fluffypony: lol Usagi - "You are not capable of doing work on the projects I am working on -- you're not qualified."
mircea_popescu: the vacant stare of the parents, or in other words " the worst thing that could ever have happened to your children is having met you."
mircea_popescu: anyway, *you* don't stop them. you just stop your wife and children from being thesort of retards, and then make *them* live in the most abject conditions available.
fluffypony: agreed
assbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: what's even better is that Usagi quoted BitcoinBourse as a defence
mircea_popescu: "only four or five people that happen to matter in btc finance say im a scammer, because the rest can't be bothered, and so please ignore everything bad you ever hear (about me)"
mircea_popescu: next post, anon guy "fu you owe me money since last year"
mircea_popescu: so much win.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming << seems credible.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic:
mircea_popescu: "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" <<< in the dreamland they inhabit, where saying makes it so, central bankers can issue currencies which will matter because they say so, and the sec can matter because it's the sec and nobody has to cut a deal with me first or anything.
mircea_popescu: should be fun to see how this works out in the end.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11877 @ 0.00085348 = 10.1368 BTC [+]
fluffypony: pankkake: I don't get "13991b1bd4d0c6f1c77954128922cb80bda602a7e8c893772e321dd6d6fdfba2"
fluffypony: (just saw it now)
pankkake: no real reason, it's a hash of the old post contents
fluffypony: ah ok
pankkake: ;;view
gribble: Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=pankkake to see the list of matching orders.
pankkake: ;;view 20705
gribble: #20705 Sat Jun 7 07:18:31 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Bitcointalk script @ 0.1337 BTC (Script to remove or mass edit your bitcointalk posts, comes with unlimited support or can run it for you)
fluffypony: but they stay on bitcointa.lk forever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00085232 = 14.1485 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: yes, which isn't bad at all
mircea_popescu: pankkake expensive no ?
mircea_popescu: .1337 is more thanthe entire forum software costs
fluffypony: does that take you to the image directly
fluffypony: or to the imgur page?
fluffypony: that's bizarre
pankkake: price is based on my support time costs
fluffypony: not working here
mircea_popescu: who's chinny ? :D
fluffypony: oh weird - works in Opera, but not in Firefox or Safari
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: wife - if you zoom in you see your messages on IRC
fluffypony: you're in blue
mircea_popescu: im just trying to bother her :D
fluffypony: heh heh
pankkake: there seems to be no rule of editing old posts on .lk either by the way. so if interested, I can write it too
mircea_popescu: pankkake forums are kinda doomed imo.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [+]
assbot: MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges | Page 9 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: they are however quite lulzy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00239829 = 0.4797 BTC [-]
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.5, Best ask: 655.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 653.5, 24 hour volume: 8869.22193161, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 662.0, 24 hour vwap: 0
fluffypony: pankkake: what's he talking about?
pankkake: interestingly the only one I accused of deleting posts was Goat
mircea_popescu: not much of an accusation that
mircea_popescu: pankkake what purpose do you suppose adding a hash serves ?
mircea_popescu: he whocan modify the post can modify the hash
mircea_popescu: proper solution would be to make a gpg key for the forum and sign everything
mircea_popescu: sorta like proper mailing lists work
pankkake: the main purpose is that people wonder what it is :D
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: epic shit.
mircea_popescu: Sydboy said: ↑ What does it feel like to be so stupid you lose money, or other people money ?usagi : I don't know.
pankkake: the few posts of Goat that were archived show how much he trusted pirate wasn't a ponzi. If you're looking for lulz.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I think Usagi threatened him and he backed down
pankkake: and many other guys that have nice great trust and VIP status
pankkake: green*
fluffypony: he's suddenly apologised for being so mean or whatever
mircea_popescu: pankkake well i was there, i remember it.
mircea_popescu: the sec is too bitchy to work towards actually putting the guilty in the can tho.
mircea_popescu: better waste time/taxpayer money on idle pretense.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00085073 = 12.4207 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: !up deanclkclk
Apocalyptic: !up deanclkclk
Apocalyptic: deanclkclk, you have to be voiced to talk
deanclkclk: ok what was wrong before?
deanclkclk: @ Apocalyptic
Apocalyptic: noting, you need someone to give you voice
Apocalyptic: *nothing
deanclkclk: ok thx
Apocalyptic: unless you're in assbot's L2 trust
mircea_popescu: it won't last either
mircea_popescu: !up Swadq
Swadq: Thanks :o
deanclkclk: so I'm in the process of setting up a crypto exchange in the Caribbean
deanclkclk: i need some advice
mircea_popescu: what, without a wot ?
pankkake: fiat/btc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27671344 BTC [+]
deanclkclk: fiat trading currencies are USD, CAD, Bahamian Dollar, Trinidad Dollar and Jamaican Dollar
deanclkclk: BTC and LTC
deanclkclk: I'm trying to go through OKPay system for my setup but, they are extremely slow. Anyone knows of an alternative payment processor which gives an Bank Account for wire transfer?
deanclkclk: and also...how can I get trusted by the community ?
deanclkclk: I am aware that there is a trust issue going on here with most exchanges
mircea_popescu: a) get in the wot ; b) spend the next half year to a year reading hte logs
mircea_popescu: by then you'll be trusted
deanclkclk: in case anyone is interested and want to know the services I offer...feel free to ask
assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
pankkake: "We learn the most from our mistakes (myself included!)"
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27671344 = 0.5534 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2767 = 0.8301 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00231546 = 0.1297 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: How Bitcoin Helps Afghan Girls Achieve Financial Freedom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27670064 = 0.5534 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: for the love of the stupid seed!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27670054 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
assbot: How Kim Dotcom's $5m Whistleblower Bounty Will Work | TorrentFreak
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: Hoping for the crazy
deanclkclk: question mircea_popescu so I have a WOT account..how does it even work in respect to irc chats?
deanclkclk: you recommended this to me around Nov last year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0024 = 0.1752 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ident deanclkclk
gribble: Nick 'deanclkclk', with hostmask 'deanclkclk!~deanclkcl@bas10-toronto01-845463865.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: you identify.
pankkake: !up deanclkclk
mircea_popescu: you ony get it for half hour.
pankkake: !up deanclkclk
deanclkclk: ohh ok
deanclkclk: why so short?
deanclkclk: so yeah you did the ident thing and it said I'm not indentifed?
deanclkclk: but, as I said..I have my WOT account
mircea_popescu: so identify to gribble.
deanclkclk: gribble? an alternative to freenode?
deanclkclk: I identify myself to freenode FYI
fluffypony: deanclkclk: an entirely different set of identifications
deanclkclk: ok so I'm lost
assbot: Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki
fluffypony: start there
deanclkclk: do I need to have a rating to be known by gribble?
deanclkclk: not sure but, I have this account since last nov
deanclkclk: deanclkclk
pankkake: ;;gpg info deanclkclk
gribble: No such user registered.
deanclkclk: wtf girbble??!!!
pankkake: you registered with gribble?
Apocalyptic: probably not, he's talking about the nickserv account
Apocalyptic: -NickServ- Information on deanclkclk (account deanclkclk):
Apocalyptic: -NickServ- Registered : Oct 13 01:14:40 2012 (1 year, 33 weeks, 6 days, 13:53:39 ago)
Apocalyptic: as fluffypony said, this is entirely irrelevant to gribble's auth
deanclkclk: yeah I heard you Apocalyptic https://www.mywot.com/en/signup
assbot: Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust)
deanclkclk: that's were I sign up
Apocalyptic: that's also irrelevant
deanclkclk: where*
Apocalyptic: look at the link fluffypony gave you
pankkake: that's not the same web of trust
fluffypony: deanclkclk: I sent you a link, follow it and read it.
deanclkclk: no need to laugh at a novice gribble novice fluffypony
fluffypony: I'm laughing that you didn't even bother to open the link and read it
deanclkclk: I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance
deanclkclk: but, yeah I spend the time and read ti
assbot: Naming and shaming the AGW fraudsters
deanclkclk: by no means I'm a fraud or came here to defraud anyone pankkake
fluffypony: deanclkclk: that link he posted has nothing to do with you
deanclkclk: plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol
deanclkclk: did you forget?
deanclkclk: yes you did
Apocalyptic: dat mircea
pankkake: yeah, read the article :D I'm just dumping my daily read
mircea_popescu: more productive than rethorical questioning.
deanclkclk: only if irc is smart enough to log chat between two nicks
mircea_popescu: irc is a network.
deanclkclk: and I am not kidding
pankkake: #bitcoin-assets has public logs
mircea_popescu: pankkake im too lazy to read that, past the chuckle that deanclkclk thought it is about him somehow
deanclkclk: I'll rummage through it one day but, not now. Will get back to you mircea_popescu
fluffypony: maybe he offered to have your code put down at the vote?
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk well as a general rule don't make statements you don't have backing for at the ready.
mircea_popescu: failure usually results in silence, but i guess im in a good mood.
deanclkclk: that is true
danielpbarron: <+deanclkclk> I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance << what BTC address should I throw my money into! Your company sounds amazing!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
deanclkclk: thought you would have remember though if I said it
pankkake: mircea_popescu, that's how I feel towards some of your blog posts :)
fluffypony: deanclkclk: I would expect that too - after all, mircea_popescu only has 1 or 2 conversations a year
mircea_popescu: pankkake i can see that :D fluffypony tops.
deanclkclk: danielpbarron: you're free not to throw money at my company
mircea_popescu: ;;google log.bitcoin-assets ibm
gribble: NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014>; Is Bitcoin Going to Change the World? | Banking industry: <http://insights-on-business.com/banking/is-bitcoin-going-to-change-the-world/>; Decentralised Digital Asset Registers – Concepts | Richard Gendal ...: <http://gendal.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/decentralised- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets ibm think
gribble: No matches found.
mircea_popescu: eh google you're useless.
pankkake: ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com ibm think
gribble: NEXT: 10-01-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2014&bots=true>; NEXT: 04-02-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014>; NEXT: 17-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2014&bots=true>
deanclkclk: if you guys are looking for the log it's found around November-December last year
deanclkclk: but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"
Apocalyptic: heh, sounds legit
davout: 'but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"' <<< surprise surprise
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0238 = 0.1666 BTC [-]
fluffypony: I'm truly shocked that anyone here would say such a thing
fluffypony: that certainly doesn't sound eponymous for #bitcoin-assets
davout: ;;later tell mike_c i want a picture of your warface
gribble: The operation succeeded.
deanclkclk: surprised that the responses I've gotten today are anything but, unfriendly
mircea_popescu: so i have survived the largest shock in my adult life.
mircea_popescu: do you know what is remarkable about rubbing alcohol here in buenos aires ? the sort sold in pharmacies ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's not really alcohol ?
mircea_popescu: it's not DENATURATED.
mircea_popescu: it's not denaturated to the degree that the label lists as indications : for rubbing,
mircea_popescu: and for making drinks.
davout: !down deanclkclk
mircea_popescu: cromatographically tested too, they say.
davout: mircea_popescu: do you mean you can get a simple chemical without being infantilized away?
mircea_popescu: alcohol, dude! the original fucking statal assholery
mircea_popescu: i mean you could also get it in romania, liter bottles of triple distilled grain alcohol. but in specialist shops.
punkman: yeah pure alcohol is pretty fucking handy
punkman: can get it in supermarkets/pharmacies here, but it costs 9 eur for 250ml now with all the new taxes, ridiculous
mircea_popescu: it's actually a much better (safer) fire starter than gasoline
punkman: I use the denatured stuff for that
mircea_popescu: well that's slightly unhealthy
punkman: which is like 1eur a liter
punkman: why is it unhealthy?
mircea_popescu: i don't recall whatexactly burn product of methylen blue is dubious but there was something
punkman: don't need much if you got kindling, burns off in like a couple seconds
mircea_popescu: don't need any if you got clean alcohol
punkman: they actually label the denatured stuff as "lamp/lighting" alcohol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-]
Naphex: sup
mircea_popescu: ah i found a good one
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/rationamente-paraeconomice-sau-despre-saracie/ << this is me telling romanians they suck, prolly one of the harshest.
assbot: Rationamente paraeconomice, sau despre saracie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76322672 BTC to 8`244 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
Naphex: so what is the best cure for rage?
fluffypony: alcohol
fluffypony: at least for me
Naphex: doubt it
fluffypony: I don't get booze-aggressive
fluffypony: I get really mellow and giggly
Naphex: that will turn me on a killing spree
Naphex: lol
fluffypony: Naphex: what's making you rage?
Naphex: women doh! i got everything else on lock lol
fluffypony: oh lordie
fluffypony: chick logic
Naphex: bored in vienna
Naphex: shit weekend
fluffypony: don't worry
fluffypony: this too shall pass
pankkake: %tslb
pankkake: %lastblock
danielpbarron: <+Naphex> so what is the best cure for rage? << if The Bible ain't your thing, try cannabis
pankkake: %diff
pankkake: okay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1904 BTC [-]
Naphex: danielpbarr
Naphex: danielpbarron: only some crappy marocan brown available
Namworld: cannabis wouldn't work for me. I'm kind of relax naturally. Give me anything that alters my mind and I'm no longer going to be happy.
Naphex: and it isnt workin :p
danielpbarron: Naphex, won't find sympathy from me; the cannabis in my local is probably worse
punkman: Naphex: how about a walk
Namworld: Not that it doesn't have any effect, but because anything that alters my mind and makes it hard for me to think clearly tends to enrage me.
pankkake: walks work for me. last time of great stress I walked around for a few hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00250616 = 0.2757 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: Walking is nice. Or cycling. Unless you're downtown in a place with no cycling accomodations. Then no cycling.
punkman: pff cycle accomodations
punkman: can barely keep the streets paved
mircea_popescu: Naphex> doubt it << sex ?
punkman: but it's nice when the 4x4 don't try to run me over
Namworld: I wend to Denmark once... so much cycling space, so few cars.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah going for a drive around vienna
punkman: yeah denmark and the netherlands are rather wonderful for cycling
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
Naphex: gonna check it out maybe i fins a nice puff place
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02511077 = 0.2511 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, generally speaking physical exhaustion. i guess walking can be the same as a spirited bout of skanko-roman wrestling.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085318 = 2.7302 BTC [+]
Namworld: Reading trilema can be fun. Am I the only one who had some actual success trading shoddy shares? Who else in here managed to trade a profit?
fluffypony: Namworld: I'm too scared to even buy in to shoddy shares
Namworld: It's not too bad when you don't hold large amounts over extended period but flip shares on the large price difference.
Namworld: There's not a lot of that since GLBSE/BitFunder/etc tho
mircea_popescu: Namworld a question a little like "am i the only one who won the lottery"
mircea_popescu: prolly not.
kakobrekla: early day of glbse, whatever you put your money in was a winner after a week and a complete lose after two.
Namworld: No, of course, but I only hear of failed funds. Certainly some people in here did it with some kind of success? They're just not as public since investing for themselves. Was looking to hear about any such person.
Naphex: google now sends bitbet updates
Naphex: not bad
mircea_popescu: there's people doing this thing with ponzis (politely known as "hyip") where they send money and try to take it back out before everyone else.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, this is actually an offense in the western world.
kakobrekla: yup, except it wasnt a ponzi it was bubblescam
mircea_popescu: Namworld ^ that'd explain to you why they tend to be quiet.
mircea_popescu: always at risk for civil clawback + penal proceedings.
mircea_popescu: "As for substance abuse I'll admit I like to have a few beers, But for the most part I stay off the drugs as of late."
kakobrekla: anyway, people had too much coin at the time
kakobrekla: still do.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but then too much was 5mn
Namworld: I wouldn't mind seeing that.
mircea_popescu: now, too much is 10-50k
mircea_popescu: it'll get shaken out.
mircea_popescu: 99% to 99.8% complete already
Namworld: Too bad I sunk most of those profits into BitVPS which needed servers and everything to no avail. BTC price rose too much afterward.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02369589 = 0.237 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
[]bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 464.9239018 BTC. Current weight: 46,470.
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1120.86 B (86%) on Yes, 186.18 B (14%) on No | closing in 8 months 1 week| weight: 75`215 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: funny how the wall of no let way to a wall of yes.
pankkake: but that was a "sure win"!
pankkake: Namworld: I had more success trading shit on btctctc than on havecocks
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 652.58, Best ask: 654.3, Bid-ask spread: 1.72000, Last trade: 654.88, 24 hour volume: 8329.40537220, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 660.25, 24 hour vwap: 0
thestringpuller: ;;calc 193000/652
gribble: 296.012269939
thestringpuller: isnt it currently yes?
FabianB: "24 hour vwap: 0"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: your cookie shipment is far cheaper now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.27999995 = 7.84 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2799999 = 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021714 BTC (Total: 434.28 BTC)
thestringpuller: !ticker m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC)
Namworld: That's why I say there hasn't been as much good arbitrage opportunity. Havelock ain't much good.
Namworld: Funny thing, arbitrage is normally between 2 markets. For BTC, there's a large price difference on a single market.
thestringpuller: am1 - am100
benkay: <deanclkclk> plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol // that'd have been me.
benkay: or was that dotcoin...
pankkake: I think it was you and him yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02500205 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: http://www.istorage-uk.com/documents/iStorage-datashur-User-Guide.pdf <= So, I bought it. full of lulz, at least it's pretty clear you can't trust it against three letter agencies
pankkake: apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas
pankkake: and silly PIN requirements
pankkake: the most secure part was the package, crappy plastic shell
pankkake: the key itself is nicely built, perfect for a keychain
pankkake: the other secure part is how you need tiny fingers to enter the PIN :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0198202 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
pankkake: this serves my intended purpose though, making tampering with it harder
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: security through obscurity is a legit layer of defense
Mats_cd03: i hope its not the only one though
thestringpuller: fluffypony you around?
fluffypony: does the pope wear a funny hat?
pankkake: I don't have anything that is not software encrypted
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
Namworld: Paint it black too
benkay: hey tokyopotato
benkay: !up tokyopotato
tokyopotato: hey man, thanks
benkay: figure out the web of trust yet?
tokyopotato: i could use a little help i think
tokyopotato: i tried registering... used multibit wallet address... but gribble wouldn't recognize the authentication
tokyopotato: so, i was going to try it another way
benkay: well i'm having breakfast with a babe atm, so i can't help atm
benkay: later ;_
tokyopotato: disfrute
tokyopotato: la chica
tokyopotato: y desayuno tambien
BingoBoingo: tokyopotato: Which version of Multibit?
tokyopotato: 0.5.18
BingoBoingo: WHY????
BingoBoingo: 0.5.11 is the last version I can stand, before too many unfeatures got tacked on...
tokyopotato: i really just needed to have a pubkey for the authentication
BingoBoingo: What's so wrong with GPG?
tokyopotato: is that your preferred client?
tokyopotato: nothing is wrong with GPG
tokyopotato: that's what I have to do now
tokyopotato: GPG4win decent?
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas << herp
mircea_popescu: zulu military.
mircea_popescu: lmao cryptovest. im waiting for the cryptopants
BingoBoingo: tokyopotato: If you have an extra hard drive or machine giving a *nix a try might be useful. I've heard a lot of complaints of GPG4win just not... working...
tokyopotato: ya, i do have ubuntu on my other laptop
mircea_popescu: i have no idea where gpg win gets its entropy from
diametric: microsoft
mircea_popescu: fluffypony Do you have any concept of the moral high ground? You think you've won some kind of game here -- but you have no idea what you lost, do you?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I know, right?
mircea_popescu: whenever some wild eye enthusiast extols "free market" to me ima link them to usagi.
mircea_popescu: in a free market anything goes, right ? including that paralyzing nonsense.
mircea_popescu: soon enough the expense of distinguishing becomes prohibitive, and the society is split : the very rich, who can afford freedom
mircea_popescu: and the not rich enough, whoi can enjoy ipads.
fluffypony: "I HAVE SO MANY PLANS. SECRET PLANS. AMAZING BUT HIDDEN PLANS. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. YOU. DON'T. EVEN. KNOW. AND YOU COULD'VE HAD A PIECE OF THE ACTION BECAUSE I AM A BENEVOLENT GOD AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU BUT I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A PIECE. AND NOW YOU FUCKED THAT UP. SO SORRY FOR YOU!" - Usagi, 2014
mircea_popescu: that's not the construction i see
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more like "you show yourself to be a bad person by arguing with usagi"
fluffypony: there's that too
benkay: filter the market with capital barriers, then.
fluffypony: you know how they bitch about smoking and they're like "every pack takes 2 days off your lifespan" ?
tokyopotato: Usagi = Jed McCaleb?
fluffypony: I feel like arguing with Usagi has taken 2 days off my lifespan.
mircea_popescu: !up sedeki
sedeki: thanks
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I swear the most useful side effect of recommending a 6 month reading and waiting period is to sort out the fucking Dice addicts. << on the first tier fo sho.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: See, I can respect certain kinds of gambling like picky sports betting and BitBet. I can't comprehend people who bet against RNGs though. Seems like the fastest way to provide someone else a steady income.
mircea_popescu: you know im like 10 or 20 btc ahead on jd do you ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. You bet though tto prove a point.
mircea_popescu: well sure
BingoBoingo: There's a difference between that and the forumer seeking a fortune.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Also, sorry about Halp
BingoBoingo: *Halep
mircea_popescu: a shelost ?
mircea_popescu: i been out on the town
BingoBoingo: Looks like it.
mircea_popescu: a well. good show anyway
BingoBoingo: http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/ << Can't think of many less likely candidates for that award...
assbot: BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (45%) on Yes, 0.09 B (55%) on No | closing in 5 months 1 day| weight: 99`454 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: Hamilton excels at the running game, but no one cares about that. Can't hit.
BingoBoingo: Exciting player for sure... Just not in the right way.
BingoBoingo: !up tokyopotato
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.52, Best ask: 656.16, Bid-ask spread: 2.64000, Last trade: 655.59, 24 hour volume: 6612.05823318, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 656.84, 24 hour vwap: 0
pankkake: fluffypony, this is probably true. force yourself to log out!
pankkake: and accept that some people are beyond saving
assbot: Cryptovest Financial Services (CVFS) Stock IPO 0.5-4% dividends p/m
davout: fluffypony: arguing is only useful if both participants are mature enough to accept that they might have to change their position
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: As someone who argued on the forum for quite some time you are tilting against this sort of inevitability: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/06/pharmacists/
assbot: Its Time for a Change; Pharmacists Tired of Being the Last Stop in a Patients Day | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
fluffypony: davout: I keep forgetting that I am not worthy to argue with The Great Usagi
fluffypony: ho. lee. fuck.
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Seriously this miracle is more ikely http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/03/fibromyalgia-cure/
assbot: Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
pankkake: guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency"
mircea_popescu: well sure
mircea_popescu: universally unsecured cyrpto currencies
mircea_popescu: "By that point I imagine internet bounty hunters finding your whereabouts are the least of your worries.
mircea_popescu: Checkmate!
mircea_popescu: You have 2 options:"
mircea_popescu: the forum hath spoken!
BingoBoingo: If you diversify a bit EMunie guy can be Kumala
mircea_popescu: the guy now has two options, including comandeering the idiot's accountand posting his masturbatory selfies
mircea_popescu: wait, 3 options
mircea_popescu: and also the option to send the internet provider a contract cancellation form
mircea_popescu: FOUR OPTIONS
davout: but wait, there's more !
mircea_popescu: internet riding unicorn hunterbunterS!
davout: !up mdev
mdev: thanks
BingoBoingo: !up sedeki
mdev: pankkake> guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency"
mdev: what is that?
mircea_popescu: "What awaits you is an existence where you dare not raise your head above water, for the fear of someone, somewhere waiting with a golden axe. I am a calculated man with resources, who can be cunning when needs to be, and I will use all resources that I have to track you down, and I will start with those gold axe's."
pankkake: mdev: look at the bitcointalk link
mircea_popescu: ahahaha this is kumala and uppity tortilla's son
assbot: Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
mdev: ?
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
mdev: oon after these attacks the assailants gained access to several online services I control, and most certainly had some form of access to 1 or more machines on my home network and also our remote servers.
mdev: i don't get how flooding gives someone access
mdev: makes no sense
fluffypony: pankkake: the "next step" they refer to is "giving everyone access to our funds"
BingoBoingo: mdev: Fibromyalgia is a famous diagnosis of "we can't find anything wrong" that many medical professionals assume to be malingerers and drug seekers.
mircea_popescu: mdev it's the forum. it doesn't have to make sense, words connote feeling and feeling is all ambitious young folk need.
mdev: he's talking about 600 BTC stolen being "spilled milk"
mdev: whatever, that's a trmeendous amont of coins
mdev: over 300k worth
mircea_popescu: a) it's peanuts for an actual business ; b) he never had 100 let alone 600.
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
CheckDavid: BingoBoingo: that can only be a joke
CheckDavid: It is right?
mircea_popescu: no, actually, fibromyalgia is non specific pain sundrome
mircea_popescu: so pretty much "guy is either insane, addicted or annyoing"
fluffypony: mdev: 300k of what?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Some people with the diagnosis move to actual diagnoses. But yeah, the use of the label makes it worthless.
mdev: $300k
mdev: worth of bitcoins
mdev: he just brushed off like "spilled milk"
BingoBoingo: !up tokyopotato
tokyopotato: ty, almost have pgp setup
BingoBoingo: tokyopotato: Ur welcome
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot enky
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user enky: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=enky | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=enky | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: ;;rate enky 1 FX guy
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user enky has been recorded.
fluffypony: !up darlidada
mircea_popescu: !up Enky
mircea_popescu: now you can self-voice.
fluffypony: darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project?
Enky: Hi, thank you
assbot: #bitcoin-assets [GLBSE/MPEX] now or IRC
mircea_popescu: 2 years!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.02699967 = 0.243 BTC [+]
FabianB: ;;isitdown mpex.co
gribble: mpex.co is down
mircea_popescu: it pings...
mircea_popescu: but it dun web anymoar!
FabianB: hm, coinbr proxy works for me
mircea_popescu: a, smartass ddos kid.
FabianB: lol, why are they even still trying?
fluffypony: boredom I suppose
tokyopotato: ill be back later to finish this battle
mircea_popescu: !up grahvity
mircea_popescu: well, kids are born poor but by the time they reach adolescence they become (at least in their estimation) strong.
mircea_popescu: somehow this inequity has to be resolved.
mircea_popescu: this being the long version of "boredom"
mircea_popescu: !up TarMi
darlidada: <+fluffypony> darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? --- yes i'm sitll up for it
fluffypony: ok cool
mircea_popescu: that's a load.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I know
fluffypony: he doesn't have 8 hours a day right now, but he'll get there
fluffypony: and I'll fund him till he's done
mircea_popescu: pretty cool
mircea_popescu: darlidada what's your degree in
fluffypony: imho the collection of knowledge is worthwhile
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darlidada: mircea_popescu: i've done 3 years in philosophy so far; a bit of accounting/economy before but i wasnt really into it so i forgot most of it. i'm one of these brain-damaged kids you write about. i'm doing my best to cure myself though
fluffypony: so you cure yourself through accumulating knowledge :)
mircea_popescu: sounds pretty good.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The only accomplishment of feminism this year was this shitty comic by a dude http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2086
assbot: Shortpacked! by David Willis - Oy Vey Sex Toy
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo don't sel them short, feminists accomplished some spectacular blowjobs this year.
BingoBoingo: darlidada: Which is your favorite of Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibitz
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the dude feminist explained the clit exists...
mircea_popescu: what is this, handicapping philosophers ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Like racehorses. Also getting a feel for what someone feels most comfortable reading.
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fluffypony: my favourite philosopher is Douglas Adams
fluffypony: I wonder if pankkake's ramblings count as philosophy
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: With that question I take two answers as meaningless, one as a suggestion the answerer should be sent to the LISP mines
BingoBoingo: Because in three decades if I get a pacemaker I'll be damned if it runs unix
mircea_popescu: one of the best things about open space style office and these chairs on rollers they do nowadays
mircea_popescu: is that you can play boinking chairs with people.
mircea_popescu: also run over chicks in open toe sandals, but hey. no pain no gain.
BingoBoingo: offlining
davout: mircea_popescu: "also run over chicks in open toe sandals" <<< ouch
fluffypony: danielpbarron: I replied to the fucktard on that thread as well
darlidada: BingoBoingo: it would be spinoza, but I dont know him that well; its the joy of reading Plato's logos and the joy of reading nietzsche psychological depth that really brought me into philosophy; nowadays it is more political philosophy and logic that i am interested in, the first because it helps me understanding the world i live in, the second because it cures my mind from the
darlidada: contradiction the era i grew up in
fluffypony likes darlidada's worldview
Apocalyptic: Nietzche was a great discovery
Apocalyptic: (for me)
darlidada: i read the 3rd chapter of "On religion" by schopenhauer yesterday. It was a nice discovery from reading mircea_popescu blog:)
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: see! he's perfect for this project.
darlidada: Nietzsche has the same view than Schopenhauer on books too. I think I read too much for my own health.
darlidada: I need to do a blog ahah
mircea_popescu: davout well what, they should wear platforms like decent sluts.
mircea_popescu: lol you two.
mircea_popescu: but yes, schopenhauer is under rated because "romantic"
fluffypony: ok darlidada - I will make sure you have a platform to start your work by Wednesday, sound good?
mircea_popescu: why not just reuse the wiki ?
darlidada: fluffypony: I wont truly be available before the 1rst of july b
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I want daily synopsis + dictionary
mircea_popescu: so wiki pages can't do that ?
fluffypony: darlidada: I know, no need for major commitment till after 1st July
mircea_popescu: imo the fewer platforms the better, as a general philosophy.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: not nicely; I played with mediawiki a bit, not happy with it
mircea_popescu: the very concept of "platform" is predicatred onm there not being many of them. imagine if there's 500 platforms, the whole thing looks about as flat as chinatown
mircea_popescu: !up PedjaT
fluffypony: !up darlidada
mircea_popescu: dude srsly ?!
pankkake: I read Schopenhauer for the insults, and Douglas Adams for the philosophy
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: remember, though, I'm throwing money at this in the hope that at some stage someone will go "oh shit, tome of all knowledge, take my dogecoin plc"
fluffypony: I can't monetise wiki.b-a
pankkake: TarMi!~3d3d@5.79.71.195 has quit: Quit: MIRCEA POPESCU IS AN ASSHOLE! < for those who hide quits
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so you seriously expect to monetize PUBLISHED summaries of assets ?
pankkake: I would buy a Trilema book
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I expect to monetise tl;dr's :)
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, this isn't communist Romania
Apocalyptic: monetize all the things !
pankkake: but I'll probably eventually ebook it myself
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2086 << as hanbot points out, who the hell would want to have sex with someone with that attitude ?!
assbot: Shortpacked! by David Willis - Oy Vey Sex Toy
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mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic no but i mean... so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what.
mircea_popescu: pankkake you mean on paper ?
Apocalyptic: mircea, good question, I was being sarcastic
davout: "so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what." <<< same goes for trilema
mircea_popescu: davout but i have clear title to the material.
mircea_popescu: he does not.
fluffypony: logs.b-a is different, though
fluffypony: there's no title
fluffypony: and in any case
davout: indeed, that doesn't really change the point
fluffypony: ongoing analysis can reference logs
mircea_popescu: moreover, wouldn't it perhaps be more productive to come up with some sort of way of monetizing the wiki if that's the point ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, merely the monetization issue is not in fact a good answer to "why make moar platforms"
davout: you did not refrain from implementing credits because someone could theoretically come up with freelema, right?
mircea_popescu: davout i happen to have this comfortable situation where if someone pisses me off i can actually bury them in legal paper.
mircea_popescu: !up TarMi
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: but surely it depends on *what* you're monetising
mircea_popescu: dude what's your major dysfunction
TarMi: Mircea is an asshole!
fluffypony: TarMi: I know, right, he's a real cock head
mircea_popescu: fluffypony which is why i said, trilema and ba summaries aren't really thesame thing
mircea_popescu: you'd think he caught me while i was doing his mom or something
davout: mircea_popescu: that sounds like it'd be much more costly to the target than to the attacker
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so analysis of Trilema articles would be open, right? it doesn't preclude credits to the source
mircea_popescu: davout i didn't parse.
davout: i mean burying someone in legal papers would be costly to you, and it would be easy to work around
mircea_popescu: only if you're a bum.
mircea_popescu: but if you're a bum, i don't care in the first place.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony well, original content is generally one thing, derivative content is generally iffy.
davout: or on tor, or whatever, we're digressing here, my point is that monetizing convenience is something i think can make sense
mircea_popescu: definitely, but then making a myriad platforms is anti convenience
davout: fluffypony make a blog with summaries, use credits
fluffypony: yeah but fuckit - I'll host it somewhere and kakobrekla can cname analysis.bitcoin-assets.com
fluffypony: davout: exactly
mircea_popescu: cause you know, everyone's gonna make one, cause there's nothing easier in the world, exactly the sort of busywork unemplyed webcoders love, and then they'll compete and then before you know it you won't be able to be friends anymore.
mircea_popescu: just bad incentive structure.
fluffypony: my thinking was WordPress with a "dictionary" plugin that picks up words in posts and links them to "definitions"
pankkake: that sounds like a wiki!
fluffypony: because easy to paywall
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall why the wiki wasn't wp in the end
mircea_popescu: iirc i said something then but i don't recall what or how itwent
fluffypony: pankkake: wiki links to other articles are not automatic tho
fluffypony: plus I fucking hate mediawiki
mircea_popescu: fluffypony automatic isn't such a benefit.
fluffypony: at least I can control WP
pankkake: it's not mediawiki
fluffypony: pankkake: either or - I still don't think that letting all-and-sundry edit is good
mircea_popescu: afaik ba wiki has a closed editor list
davout: call it assetopedia
mircea_popescu: ass-to-pedia
davout: or just penis
pankkake: asspedia, to compete with http://www.boobpedia.com/
assbot: Big Tits - Boobpedia
mircea_popescu: o wow this is relevant to my ignorance & interests.
mircea_popescu: http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Category:D_cup << fucking name list wtf is wrong with people.
assbot: Category:D cup - Boobpedia - Encyclopedia of big boobs
assbot: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model
fluffypony: got distracted
fluffypony: anyway
fluffypony: I want darlidada to maintain a "guardian of knowledge" role
fluffypony: we can open it later
mircea_popescu: thinking about it, you basically want him to run a blog
fluffypony: yes - but the key here is analysis and synopsis
fluffypony: and it's not to give noobs a lurk-free path
fluffypony: but it's more as an ongoing reference
mircea_popescu: yeah. platform threw me, but srsly, yu just want to make a blog.
darlidada: its true that knowledge is disseminated everywhere, but to be fair trilema bitcoin section already does a very nice job
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yep - a blog post for every day that #bitcoin-assets has existed
fluffypony: plus the dictionary as an added bonus
fluffypony: once darlidada gets to like June last year he's going to have to dip into personal logs
darlidada: how should we sort the stuff that happens ? should we sum up everything even random fluff?
fluffypony: random fluff is the best
darlidada: even on #bitcoin-assets, there is a chat hierarchy, there are chat logs that are important to sum up and chat logs that are just fluff
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> random fluff is the best << except the mp theorem is that "bitcoin-assets is the shortest packing possible of all the information it contains".
mircea_popescu: so i bet you if you do all the fluff your summaries will exceed the space of the log, prolly 3x
fluffypony: buuuuut
fluffypony: there's a dictionary too, right
fluffypony: so the entry for "Mircea Popescu" won't be repeated per-day
mircea_popescu: and if you're notwilling to compromise some words will be book length
fluffypony: and it will grow as he gets through the logs
mircea_popescu: the original encyclopedists had the exactsame problem
fluffypony: for this I'd hope some entries are extraordinarily long
fluffypony: maybe one day we publish a book :-P
fluffypony: darlidada: I hope your book-writing skills are up to scratch :-P
fluffypony: !up darlidada
darlidada: fluffypony wants me to become a philosopher like the one from the french enlightment whereas i wanna become a free spirit like rousseau, though now that i am into bitcoin, im not sure about his love for the demos anymore ;<
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: on the contrary, I want you to become a cartographer ;)
darlidada: interesting, so you want me to map every person and every event within the bitcoin world
darlidada: bitcoin asset is our santa maria ;p
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c let me know once you approve my comment so i know it hasn't just been swallowed up by the machine and can erase the pasted version i've saved just in case.
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fluffypony: darlidada: yes - clever tags will provide a map
fluffypony: you need to be a curator, essentially
fluffypony: this needs a curator - multiple, disparate, dispassionate, uninterested curators don't work
mircea_popescu: well i'm sure that multiple passionate, disparate, interested curators will work too :)
darlidada: then its good that i've an obsessive personality, im maniac about trilema.com right now; i'm gonna finish reading http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ - and go to bed, gn:)
assbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm not against the approach, but I think this needs a more unified approach to prevent a more unified view
fluffypony: once everything is "there" it's different
fluffypony: but consistency is critical during the initial load
mircea_popescu: fluffypony no argument
Guest20889: mircea_popescu: The amazing thing about the unfuckable is the variety of ways they can inhere that property.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: this is instructive
mircea_popescu: could be the net worth graph of pretty much any forum investment
mircea_popescu: . Just fucks me off when I see super rich fucks chuck their money around like confetti. Fiat or bitcoin. ( and yes bit of jealousy, but if I was that rich I would share the wealth in a more meaningful way)
mircea_popescu: that's not how you get to be rich. rich people are hated, because they are supposed to be hated. No one has ever gotten elitist rich by following the rules or being nice.
mircea_popescu: all together nao... reeeeetardit!
mircea_popescu: !up sedeki
sedeki: thanks
sedeki: mircea_popescu looking for a python developer?
mircea_popescu: not specifically
sedeki: all right
mircea_popescu: someonewaslooking forsomething but i forgot who. fluffy maybe ?
mircea_popescu: !up alecpap
alecpap: mircea_popescu: thanks
sedeki: mircea_popescu i have a hunch you follow interesting blogs. do you want to share?
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Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
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mircea_popescu: "I leave aside the confusion absence of evidence/evidence of absence--and the misunderstanding of the very notion of "empiricism". It is a fact that in the real world of our daily decision-making 1) we do not have much evidence of most relevant things, yet we need to take action; 2) in most situations, "true/false" is never symmetric (one side is more harmful than the other), so the burden of evidence is one-sided. Which
mircea_popescu: kes "doing science" lose their tenures after the endowments (and charity) run out of funds, they will be barely fit to do anything in the real-life ecology. I wonder what you can do with an unemployed, say, academic orthodox economist. You could do better with non-post-academic cab drivers. Clearly those the most fit at dealing with "just evidence" will be idiot savants outside their evidence domain."
mircea_popescu: i absolutelylove taleb
mircea_popescu: this guy is like me, except older and givingmore of a shit.
mircea_popescu: "So let me take this into more interesting territory, and express my anti-social-planner views. Even more that in Hayek's days, the ecology of the real world is becoming too complex for Aristotelian logic: very, very little of what we do can be safely formalized, meaning asymmetries matter more than ever. Which puts the Western World today at the most dangerous point in its history: unless we get the Bernanke-Summers cro
mircea_popescu: ill eventually be destroyed by the machinery of arrogant, formal-thinking civil servants, and Ivy-league semi-retards."
mircea_popescu: "Finally, beyond the current mess, I see no way out of this ecological problem, except through that tacit, unexplainable, seasoned, thoughtful, and aged thing crystalized by traditions & religions --we can't live without charts and we need to rely on the ones we've used for millennia. Le 21e siecle sera religieux, ou ne sera pas!" << someone needs to shout bitcoin at him in such a way that he understands wtf we do here.
mircea_popescu: "We prohibit under anathema that murderous art of crossbowmen and archers, which is hateful to God"
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mircea_popescu: wait, wut ?!
mircea_popescu: !up chainey
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 46 @ 0.02367122 = 1.0889 BTC [-] {3}
Mats_cd03: youre intent on world domination huh
mircea_popescu: if at all possible.
mircea_popescu: !up bitcoinhtx
mircea_popescu: "So, by tinkering, I figured out that I fare best under the following conditions: no breakfast, working out randomly (but in a lumpy way: long walks & intense weight lifting without a scheduled time limit), "working" randomly, fasting when working out, avoiding modern carbs (and modernized fruits), avoiding contact with economists and finance idiots, taking red eye flights & fasting during episodes of jet lag and similar
mircea_popescu: we even fucking do things similarly in many places.
mircea_popescu: "Having a risk number is not trivial. It does lead you to do foolish things, even if you knew that the measure was wrong. If I can show that, many people [who offered quantitative risk measures in finance] will have to be held accountable –& I can show that! One of Fannie Mae director’s, a quack & proponent of “Modern Finance” charlatanism, kept promoting “scientific” risk measurement methodologies that do not measure ri
mircea_popescu: ately, but lead people to TAKE MORE RISK foolishly thinking they know something. [This is the reason I singled out Fannie Mae in The Black Swan as a firm sitting on dynamite & the International Association of Financial Engineers as a society of snake oil vendors harmful to society]. After > 1 trillion in losses I can safely say that my statement that the banking system has been taking more risks than they thought SHOULD
mircea_popescu: SERIOUSLY."
mircea_popescu: or, "why forum rating agencies are stupid and people will fucking hang for it"
mircea_popescu: "So I hold that giving someone a bad risk measure was just as CRIMINAL as giving someone the wrong medicine. For a long time nobody sanctioned doctors who poisoned their patients. Why don’t we take on the proponents of quantitative risk management, put them in jail so they stop harming us?"
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mircea_popescu: Un vieil homme du nom de Chunglang, qui signifie « Maître des rochers », possédait un petit lopin de terre dans les montagnes. Un jour, il perdit l’un de ses chevaux. Des voisins vinrent alors lui exprimer leurs condoléances pour ce malheur. Mais le vieil homme leur demanda : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un malheur ? » Et voilà que quelques jours plus tard l’animal revint, suivi d’une horde de chevaux sauvages. À
mircea_popescu: au les voisins apparurent, pour le féliciter cette fois-ci de cette aubaine. Mais le vieil homme leur rétorqua : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un aubaine ? » Les chevaux étant devenus très nombreux, le fils du vieil homme se prit de passion pour l’équitation, mais un beau jour il se cassa la jambe. Alors, encore une fois, les voisins vinrent présenter leurs condoléances et à nouveau le vieil homme leur rétorqua :
mircea_popescu: uoi pensez-vous que cela soit un accident malheureux ? » L’année suivante, la commission des Grands Flandrins arriva dans la montagne. Elle recrutait des hommes forts pour devenir valets de pied de l’empereur et porter la chaise de celui-ci. Le fils du vieil homme, toujours blessé à la jambe, ne fut pas choisi.
Mats_cd03: !up mdev
Mats_cd03: !up mdev
mdev: thanks, is the auto-devoice necessary? seems like it'd make more sense that if you temp voiced another user could devoice you if needbe
mdev: majority of the channel has no voice currently
mircea_popescu: !up mdev
mircea_popescu: mdev you're not in thething even already you're improvingit ?
Namworld: Well that's a nice little story and all. Although it's true, odds weren't in favor of those outcomes.
mircea_popescu: odds are taleb wouldn't think much of your understanding of odds tho
mdev: mircea just seems like an obvious problem
mdev: and obvious solution
mdev: nothing to be afraid of, big channels don't have anywhere near as locked system like in here, and they don't get spammed much/ever and if they do it doesn't last long
mdev: besides nothing stopping a spammer from joining, asking for voice, and do their thing
Namworld: The little story just seems to point the obvious, aka a good/bad event could end up being a curse/good outcome, respectively.
Namworld: Not that I disagree with what came just before the little story.
mircea_popescu: mdev spammers have very little to do with it.
mdev: then why?
mdev: seems inconvient when majority of the channel can't talk
mircea_popescu: teaching ignorant snots that out of the [their ideas, their shit] set, the shit element is the more valuable however is central.
mdev: inconvenient rather
mircea_popescu: Namworld for full context you gotta look at http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/notebook.htm tho, it's a little disconcerto of cvasi-nonsense
mircea_popescu: mdev how is that inconvenient ?
mdev: because if they want to speak they have to voice themselves, which to even do that have to join some tricky WOT thing, and if they haven't done that they have to burden another user for voice
mdev: versus just talking...where's that web of trust?
mdev: lettintg users talk, without jumping through hoops, and if they get out of line then can devoice or what have you
mircea_popescu: methinks you'll have to spend some time reading the previous discussion on this topic first.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im going out. later all.
Namworld: Well WOT ain't all that tricky. Took me a little while. Once done I was set.
BingoBoingo: knotwork_: You still survived Vircurex?
Namworld: What's vircurex again?
mdev: well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Kumala's runaway scam
BingoBoingo: Vircurex was money untl it wasn't
assbot: NBA writer /JeffZillgitt for the win with his quote sheet as if California Chrome was playing in the NBA Finals http://t.co/PpJsvFG4pP
BingoBoingo: Halep was so close
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mike_c: mircea_popescu: comment published.
dub: that reminds me, still need to get nxt out of vircurex
dub: wich would be easier if the client worked
mike_c: ;;later tell davout if you want to see my warface you have to try and flip the switch on my computer's power strip after i've told you FIFTY TIMES to stay away from it.
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dub: %book
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benkay: <mdev> well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate // "all" sucks.
benkay: !up mdev
benkay: ;;later tell mdev logping
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assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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BingoBoingo: !up bloctoc
BingoBoingo: So, just called out the complaintant on my Disorderly charge on twittter. Their choices are forgive or fade into irrelevance.
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BingoBoingo: I will resolve this disorderl charge this weekend
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.274 = 1.918 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have started the push for a return of the passport
BingoBoingo: Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Do you have one?
benkay: fuck no
TheNewDeal: 4 pack of Polish beers and an empty bitcoin-assets room... the start of a fantastic saturday night
Vexual: did yah double down on the diff bet yet?
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
TheNewDeal: no that diff bet is going sideways the last couple days
TheNewDeal: I'm currently scouting a fine petroleum opportunity
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I dun feel good about in anymore.
Vexual: ive been playing with turning waste mining heat into distilling power, I wonder how long until crude oil is an option
Vexual: I couldn't find uranium
Vexual: make your own pretroleum jelly
Vexual: its a pickle jar stuck to a peltier stuck to an r-box
TheNewDeal: ahhhh
TheNewDeal: piece of shit hotel connection, not sure why I even tried in the first place
TheNewDeal: couldnt even load gmail
Vexual: waiting is the best part
Vexual: i get mathanol for the first 12 hours
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Halep was so close << yeah, sucks you know when you bet on a wild horse, and she does 1000 but you needed 1050
mircea_popescu: anyway. it was a bitcoin for her good fortune.
TheNewDeal: that shit will fuck you up!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu I didn't make that bet, but I understand the sweat involved from making similar bets.
Vexual: TheNewDeal: quick as you like
TheNewDeal: which bet are you talking about?
Vexual: halep to win
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence? << not anymoar.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just trying to follow up on an interesting idea from the lawyer
TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu I'm looking for information about the WTI Jan 2015 > $200 because it spoke hedge to me from the beginning
mircea_popescu: im sure it was.
Vexual: wizzen
BingoBoingo: All that is happening is I am asking forgiveness, since after more than a year the prosecution has been incapable of making a case
mircea_popescu: so why'd you ask for anything ?
mircea_popescu: sue for vexation or w/e it's called
mircea_popescu: ill send you a signed letter saying that your failure to show up in timisoara cost you a million dollah.
Vexual: thats what i said, look em in the eye
mircea_popescu: vexualation lol
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because they offer forgiveness nao or are drafted to blowjobs later.
mircea_popescu: here;s free advice : blowjobs from idiots suck
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Actually... I think Mr. Drivethrough J.D. could do a lot with that letter...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00085715 = 24.3431 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what's your irl real name again ?
BingoBoingo: I think though missing Timisoara cost me much more than one million dollars
Vexual: tread lightly
TheNewDeal: Frankie D.
Vexual: and look confused
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: PM'd with public key
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Only the uninitiated may tread lightly, be aren't we both initiated?
Vexual: i really don't know
mircea_popescu: well no but i mean if ima gonna publish this...
BingoBoingo: Vexual: We are initiated.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, This is still live through Monday.
BingoBoingo: Eh, what can the feds do, my peace offering under the IRL name https://twitter.com/aaronrogier/status/475467740778881024
assbot: /DallasCookIL I can offer a juicy reslution, but only if you offer a GPG public key. Like http://t.co/iPs8juiF98
TheNewDeal: whats going on?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Imma trying to get a passport
Vexual: ahh you know about the good satay
BingoBoingo: The thing is @DallasCoolIL fancies himself a conservative...
TheNewDeal: aren't passports relatively easy to get?
Vexual: i think he wants his back
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Not if there is a pending case against you that just won't quit...
TheNewDeal: ahhhh
BingoBoingo: And let us make this clear. I am never pleading any guilt on this case.
TheNewDeal: just as bad as having your nuts in a vise
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I nearly lost my nuts to trauma and infection in May, this is a minor problem by comparison.
Vexual: tell em you need your passport for a nut infusion
BingoBoingo: Having a testicular torsion manually reduced, now that is pain.
TheNewDeal: jeeeezus
TheNewDeal: I was talking about straight compression
BingoBoingo: Being on the edge of founeir's gangrene because docotrs don't understand bacteria, that is pain.
BingoBoingo: I make this fuss over the misdemeanor now, because a reasonable person on the other side can by 8:00 CDT on Tuesday decide to drop this issue for their great benefit.
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: If, however they don't want to drop this... Maybe I would like to be county clerk or whatever their fake bezzel job is...
Vexual: well if you lost your million dollar job because of someoneelses incopetence, it might be their cheapest option
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not even on that scale yet, but... of my blogs that didn't go viral http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/14/the-failure-of-urbit-and-the-bitcoins-future-of-computing/ was probably the most popular for a reason.
assbot: The Failure of Urbit and Bitcoin's Future of Computing | Bingo Blog
TheNewDeal: BB, you and I area on the opposite side of this Bas?tilleday bet, no
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I am on the no side
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 304736 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1695 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 33 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11712402881.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.37553
TheNewDeal: indeed, I am on the Yes
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: You seem to be on the more likely side now.
TheNewDeal: true, but the last two days have been quite skittish
BingoBoingo: Days are small, weeks are more
TheNewDeal: most definitely
mircea_popescu: fascinating how every.god.damned.diff.bet ends up such a waffle
TheNewDeal: this has been one of my heaviest bets to date
TheNewDeal: not true MP, some people don't know how to do basic calculations
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I wonder what your tke is on the difference between myself and Tat
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 3 weeks 6 days ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00085715 = 3.2426 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what diff is that ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno myself beyond he feared mpif an I signed on.
mircea_popescu: well link or somthin ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just your recent article on what composes a jail
mircea_popescu: well then i dunno
assbot: An inventory of a prison pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00085851 = 14.7664 BTC [+] {2}
TheNewDeal: MP are you relocating to arhentina?
mircea_popescu: already done.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14821 @ 0.00085513 = 12.6739 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: whats the rent like for a mediocre place? like without AC, but with running water and electricity
TheNewDeal: I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D
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