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BingoBoingo: Gracie is an ugly cat though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 297 @ 0.00500236 = 1.4857 BTC [-] {4}
moiety: i am officially in love. those cats are amazing, they havent changed!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
moiety: seriously, this thing just gets better: "When it is threatened it raises and quivers the upper lip, Elvis like, revealing a large canine tooth."
mircea_popescu: sooo pirate named names huh.
Duffer1: vegas conference attendees as far as i saw /didn't read the whole thing though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00553604 = 0.238 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04279995 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: some preferential treatment disclosed.
ozbot: BitBet - James Gibson aka gigavps to be named as Pirate ponzi scheme fraudulent beneficiary
benkay: hey mircea_popescu is Vandroidy still around?
mircea_popescu: that should be quite interesting.
mircea_popescu: benkay sort-of.
benkay: sort-of?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell jborkl shocking, i tell ya.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gigavps how's it going scammer boy ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Just think, time machine and you could have killed BTCST in November 2011
mircea_popescu: you mean april.
BingoBoingo: Maybe even April 2011 for 500BTC
mircea_popescu: o 2011. heh.
mircea_popescu: you know i wasn't even there ;/
BingoBoingo: But then you'd miss Harnet
mircea_popescu: what do you want from me, i only showed up that summer
mircea_popescu: takes someone A FEW MONTHS to catch up and spread the roots you know ?
mircea_popescu: kinda how i ended up with "6 months". if it took me ~3...
BingoBoingo: Oh, if only S.TimeMachine was a thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, BingoBoingo : if i HAD done that, for all the laurels and glory (which no noobs can be bothered to even know about, so... it doesn't help THEM) the "community" of fucktards would have actually fallen for a much bigger ponzi much later,
mircea_popescu: that i'd have been equally powerless to do anything about
BingoBoingo: Eh, much later ponzi might have taught more
mircea_popescu: because the scammer would have said "this time it's different", and the way the primate brain works that'd have been enough.
mircea_popescu: so... ironically it'd have been a lot worse for everyone.
BingoBoingo: These are the reasons I drink to consult my lizard brain
benkay: oh, there won't be any more ponzi's in bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: benkay yes, there will be. just copumpkin won't be whitenighting them.
mircea_popescu: which obviously i mean in a general manner. well meaning but naive geeks will know to defer that time
mircea_popescu: as they didn't previously.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39711 @ 0.00082727 = 32.8517 BTC [+]
benkay: if not last season's socks, a new seasons. what's the actual difference?
mircea_popescu: no, there's a difference.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is non inflationary. this makes early things dwarf late things in importance.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, funny how this guy's brain works. so he gets summoned, and he responds. *then* he feigns to ignore further proceedings.
mircea_popescu: which, as you pointed out, is real fucking smart. and now he actually responds.
mircea_popescu: possibly worst legal strategy of the century award.
benkay: twitter 'strategy'
Duffer1: that and going it without representation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]
benkay: mircea_popescu would have you believe representation is for the weak of mind, Duffer1
Duffer1: and admitting to not reading the subpeona where it asks him to retain certain information..
mircea_popescu: benkay wait what ?!
mircea_popescu: o o nm i read it backwards. yes, it is. and yes, he is. so...
mircea_popescu: ahahahaah o jesus god, "do you know reeses_ name ?" "art. a-r-t" "and last name ?" "i have no idea"
mircea_popescu: "and do you watch seinfeld ?" "yes i do!" "do you understand anything ?" "well as much as anyone on the forum ever understands of what's going on before their eyes
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It took the SEC dude to throw out Giga's last name
mircea_popescu: what was it, "llc" ?
mircea_popescu: hay folks my name is james llc, for srs. let's do some business which then i'll pretend is covered by the company named after me.
benkay: didja get to "business cognition"?
mircea_popescu: because that is totally how limited liability works, you hafta not disclose it and misrepresent it to be shielded.
mircea_popescu: benkay i'm not reading that shit, just got some parts sent over
mircea_popescu: why, is it that good ?
benkay: it's what he owes his father or uncle some money for
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mircea_popescu: you know it makes you wonder aboput the united states.
mircea_popescu: in that you know, twentysomethings end up in troubkel all over the world, by virtue of being kids
mircea_popescu: but they customarily hide their stupidity from family and esp senior male relatives
mircea_popescu: in the us tho, it's backwards, they do it as a joint venture. so are there no males in that country over the mental age of ~17 or what the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: i mean i used to think it's only the case for poor black people, lil wayne and whatnot. then i thought it's only the case for poor people generally. now i'm starting to think its simply what the murican male is. the us culture, if you will.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 700 @ 0.0001865 = 0.1306 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Of the two parts of the Pirate at 40 shit, part one is definitely the lulzier one
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo or whoever feels like it : why not make a curated version on yer blogs ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is too old for me to provide solid context.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.004041 = 0.101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: (the hidden benefit here is this : through curating it you expose your unknowledge to scrutiny, ie, if you cut out something that turns out to have been important you get to learn it was, and so fix your head)
benkay: i've published some bits.
BingoBoingo: I really haven't found unimportant bits yet.
mircea_popescu: benkay ya but it has to be exhaustive for the thing to work, otherwise the narcissist self always cops out to "Well it was just some bits". and besides, weren't you coding ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0428 = 0.2568 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004041 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well then that's also illustrative :D
benkay: should be yeah
BingoBoingo: There's stupid from both Pirate and the SEC stooge
BingoBoingo: Eastern District of Texas is a BTC no mans land
chetty: hmm I wonder, the SEC seems to be trying to imply that BigOne and #2 were the same person, wonder if they have somethiing there? If either one actually existed of course
benkay: there's a pretty hilarious interchange where Shavers says something retarded and the stooge asks "you're getting a job at support dot com, right?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC
joecool: benkay: when i saw that i remembered noted other OTC scammer aethero works at support.com
BingoBoingo: chetty: I think SEC is trying to trap that BIg One and Number two are figments of Pirate's imagination
joecool: those two are probably BFF's
BingoBoingo: joecool: They might be the same
joecool: aethero sure had a lot of figments of his imagination
HeySteve: I linked to MPOE-PR's Bitcoin Foundation thread, I think it's good they get called to account
joecool: aethero still has great trust :P
joecool: ;;gettrust aethero
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user aethero: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 3 via 18 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by the way, an important point : the reason the "media" sucks is not that they've sold out or follow external policies or w/e. it's that they are writing WITH THEIR READER IN MIND. the former then flows from this naturally, but it does not make a difference if you write with the reader in mind so as to advertise to it, or save its soul or merely inform it. it's all the same, and it's wrong.
mircea_popescu: write for yourself, as your own thing. think of it as picking up women : you don't puick up women by picking up women, you pick up women by doing *any other thing*
mircea_popescu: joecool course in fairness aethero is more like noted lunatic.
mircea_popescu: and he doesn't seem to have that great trust neh ?
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust aethero
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user aethero: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 17 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well it turn out this n00b sports betting guide is turning in to a bunch of parts I need to organize for my own benefit.
BingoBoingo: A good portion of it is already in the logs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.004041 = 1.2446 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: a ok, that works too.
benkay: heh i saw EV- and moved on
BingoBoingo: It's just the machine language of the lizard brain I consult for bets is rather dense.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00082658 = 5.91 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay: SOme bets can be plus EV, It is just there is a 2+ month wait between those.
benkay: i'm already long bitcoin
benkay: seems crazy enough for this decade
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.004041 = 0.2142 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Gambling as entertainment and Gambling as pseudo-investment are very different things.
mircea_popescu: it's like he's on a roll
BingoBoingo: As a mentioned a while ago the best reason to bet on an outcome is to make the watching it more enjoyable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 459 @ 0.004041 = 1.8548 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Yeah asciilifeform has been so quatable today
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: even linked http://i.imgur.com/hKk5a77.jpg
mircea_popescu: im totally stealing this and publishing it myself.
mircea_popescu: it's too good.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00082727 = 1.9027 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: cads so ask.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.004041 = 0.2182 BTC [-]
ozbot: Project Abro
Duffer1: "Whatever I talk, I do with you, for you must benefit you. Further, the funds you spend on my way to be purposefully utilized."
benkay: ABROOOOOO
benkay: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Namworld: Buzzword cesspool?
Duffer1: omg
Duffer1: i can't even describe that post
Namworld: High as fuck?
cads: haha, I like it
Namworld: Mental institute fugitive?
cads: I"m reading it in alec baldwin's voice.
Duffer1: lol
benkay: Most of the time people can't express their feelings. It has to be thrown out. Once it is thrown out, he/she feels light and refreshed.
benkay: This is the kind of service I'm offering here.
benkay: Consider me representing the one who troubled you, or I'm the situation that made you into trouble.
benkay: You might have to throw out all your frustrations, feelings etc.
mircea_popescu: maybe we're finally seeing markov chain ipos
benkay: I will get in touch with you in skype.
benkay: Scold me, spit at me, and express all of your feelings. Use all the filthy words as you can. Once you have done, your mind is filtered out with all the frustrations.
benkay: Your life will become beautiful. You get enormous energy. You will succeed in all your activities then.
benkay: Still, again someone will trouble you. Come again, take my skype session and spit at me. You will feel better.
benkay: While chatting if your feelings are very strong, I may scream for you. Don't stop, continue till the session ends.
Duffer1: it's an ipo for a pyramid scam that's also a futures bond and a cult
benkay: If you are not in a desire to spit at me, you may even let your neighbor/friend or anyone to utilize the service and spit at me.
benkay: i think this is something the forum needs to be chumpatron'd with
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 sounds just about descriptive of the moss that's in between average joe's ears.
Duffer1: i can't agree this time, this is a special kind of fail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.004041 = 1.2123 BTC [-]
cads: hahaha
Namworld: Abro is love, Abro is life. All praise Abro.
Namworld: Is he ipoing the universe? He's ipoing the universe.
ozbot: Twitter / RealCarrotFacts: Carrot taste good even if you ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.004041 = 0.8082 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00082658 = 5.4439 BTC [-]
benkay: abro akbar
BingoBoingo: Anyone else see SVU tonight?
moiety: wtaf is that post?! i like the mandatory note for "the service"
moiety: the btctalk one ^
Duffer1: the whole thread so far is fucking brilliant
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.004041 = 0.1212 BTC [-]
benkay: i just realized that we have b-list feline internet celebrites
BingoBoingo: benkay: We do indeed
benkay: okay i get it mircea_popescu a penny from every human on earth makes for pathological everything
mircea_popescu: waitwat?
benkay: pennies from everyone and spears and such
mircea_popescu: i think you all've been cooped in here too long, and you're approaching some sort of mystical breakthrough of which i'm sadly left out :(
benkay: britney spears
moiety: how has there been a webz cat i didn't know about :o
BingoBoingo: Eh, in about 8 hours I'm driving 200 miles for a decent lunch. Well, maybe a bit more than 8 hours from nao. Depends how long I am passed out.
moiety: 200 miles :o
moiety: its not icy is it?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Not icy atm, just driving 200 miles for 15 minutes of errand and lunch.
moiety: oh god have you seen arscoin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004041 = 2.0205 BTC [-]
ozbot: Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency | Ars Technica
moiety: wut
benkay: old nooz
benkay: also webwallet onry i hear
BingoBoingo: Premined scam
moiety: but but you can buy a gold username!
moiety: wtaf
moiety: is the GnuTLS bug old news too? im so slow
benkay: mhm
benkay: hey moiety have you heard about the multicoin wallet?
benkay: they herd u liek crypto and obfuscated the source so they can steal your coins while you doge
moiety: i heard they were wanting to make one but i didn't know it had come to fruition
ozbot: MultiCoinWallet: Considered Harmful
benkay: not to imply you yourself are a thick sucker
benkay: you're in -assets, after all.
benkay: an assette!
moiety: lol i like it
moiety: the wallet not so much, good article. i wouldn't have touched it with someone else's anyways
moiety: ha i like the next one too
moiety: you need a subscribing list
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58999999 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay is good at turning out the really pointed messages
moiety: he is very to-the-point, which = win
moiety: that lol
mircea_popescu: benkay ah ah yes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0040401 = 0.404 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.00089005 = 2.6702 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Massive Linux security flaw dwarfs Apple’s cryptography problems of just last week | ExtremeTech
mircea_popescu: yeh was here last week but worth repeating.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1717 @ 0.00396239 = 6.8034 BTC [-] {10}
moiety: i just heard of it today too
BingoBoingo: Oh, Archer mentioned Bitcoin this week
mircea_popescu: which archer
Duffer1: tv show
mircea_popescu: "Allowing drunk patrons to gamble and serving obviously intoxicated patrons are both illegal under Nevada law. Johnston's lawyer says his client's story is bolstered by surveillance video and eyewitness testimony."
mircea_popescu: this is actually a bit of a problem, people can sit down at their computer drunk as fuck and think hye, gamble my whole wallet on dice!
mircea_popescu: obviously not the dice site's problem, but also kind-of dangerous for the random idiot.
BingoBoingo: And this is why Dice suck.
mircea_popescu: well maybe.
mike_c: because you've never blown money on sports while drunk ;)
mircea_popescu: tbh i think dices have a future, but as backing for other services. they're currently exposed to the general public becaus e whatever, we're in the pdp and vax days over here.
mircea_popescu: but generally speaking, the dice model is the engine that can power a lot of cool applications down the road.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.00089 = 1.335 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00386019 = 0.7875 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Actually totally plaster in sports have offered much better returns than sober and axious
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the same is true of the players.
mike_c: it is at least more fun
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0038518 = 0.1502 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i wonder if superbowl/whatever advertising sports will eventualyl run out of money so bad they'll add new rules such as "each player must drink twelve shots of vodka before going on the field"
BingoBoingo: I've only had one huge gambling loss totally plastered.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 390 @ 0.00385512 = 1.5035 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They might. For football it might be necessary. Actually the biggest PED among handegg players I've seen is the ganja.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: can i put that mention on my resume? seriously though, there is much to learn here for someone like me
mircea_popescu: cazalla lol sure.
mircea_popescu: whatever you do to your resume it can't end up worse than that exchange expert guy from a while back
BingoBoingo: Seriously, baseball's saving grace is it mixes the randomness of dice with the potential for talent
BingoBoingo: Hashtag! DangerZone
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.57191533 = 18.3013 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0039 = 1.17 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: please allow me to spam :
mircea_popescu: Q: Next account, Gigavps, is this a true and accurate reflection of Gigavps' account history with Bitcoin Savings & Trust from on or about April 3rd, 2012 through on or about August 22, 2012 ?
mircea_popescu: Q: What stands out at you as being incorrect?
mircea_popescu: A: I'll just know I used it a lot.
mircea_popescu: Q: For what?
mircea_popescu: A: For moving transactions.
mircea_popescu: Q: Meaning for Bitcoin Savings & Trust Investment transactions?
mircea_popescu: A: Yes. And he had a separate account that was a hidden account.
mircea_popescu: Q: A hidden account?
mircea_popescu: Q: What do you mean by that?
mircea_popescu: A: Just an account used for basically his own lending account. They borrow coins real quickly to make cash transactions and stuff.
mircea_popescu: Q: From you?
mircea_popescu: A: Correct.
mircea_popescu: Q: What was his user name on that account?
mircea_popescu: A: I guess Gigavps, but it wasn't on Bitcoin Savings & Trust.
mircea_popescu: Q: Why doesn't it appear in this raw data?
mircea_popescu: A: Because it wasn't on there. It wasn't on this database or on this website. It was tracked through a - what was that - not Sales Force. I can't remember the name of the website. It was something we just worked out together. And it has a lot of his transactions. This account looks mostly like my stuff.
mircea_popescu: Q: Meaning --
mircea_popescu: A: 2002 --
mircea_popescu: Q: What do you mean by "my stuff"?
mircea_popescu: A: And then $500 deposit from Imsaguy?
mircea_popescu: Q: What do you mean "my stuff"?
mircea_popescu: A: Core stuff. This isn't all --
mircea_popescu: Q: You mean Bitcoin Savings & Trust investment activity?
mircea_popescu: A: This isn't all of the transactions there.
mircea_popescu: Q: Next account, Goat.
BingoBoingo: Oh, and copumpkin was the doxxed one
mircea_popescu: what, you didn't know his name ?
copumpkin knew his name
mircea_popescu: he fucking sends email with his name on it, what's not to know.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I knew it, but not in a court filing.
copumpkin: get with the times
copumpkin: lol, you google my nick my name is the first result
mircea_popescu: i guess.
copumpkin: I'm not exactly secretive
BingoBoingo: I mean Pirateat40 know copumkin's full name, but only James for GigaVPS
mircea_popescu: yes, but then pirate was an idiot.
copumpkin: he's also muddying things by lying
copumpkin: all over the placE :)
mircea_popescu: copumpkin no ?!
copumpkin: believe it or not!
mircea_popescu: i thought fraudsters never lie in court.
mircea_popescu: all this comes as news to me.
copumpkin: there was no way for pirate to think that goat's name is chaang noi :P
copumpkin: that's just retarded
copumpkin: I was amazed at how much crap he spewed in there
BingoBoingo: Pudgy white kid named Chaang Noi
mircea_popescu: actually... he only came up with chaang noi after his 6 months of laying low for the bst to blow over.
copumpkin: I think he got himself into more trouble there than he would be in if he'd just admitted it
mircea_popescu: well actually... i think in his case the meth defense cuts in
mircea_popescu: (ie, there's an absolute lowest limit a judge'll allow for self-critting idiocy, otherwise anyone from the inner cities would be doing >9k years)
BingoBoingo: Well this is just a civil case
mircea_popescu: this is really the reason prosecutions are so successful in the us. it's not really some sort of nefarious police stat
mircea_popescu: e/nasizm thing as some suggest. it's simply that most defendants are too stupid to live
copumpkin: and the guy is getting the SEC to drive him there in a car cause he doesn't have a car anymore
copumpkin: kind of sad
mircea_popescu: and if they were taken seriously they'd be just... you know, off to soylent plant
mircea_popescu: wait, no lambo ?
mircea_popescu: sec should buy a lambo.
copumpkin: apparently not!
copumpkin: they should ask the FBI for some of those SR coins and buy that mclaren that went up recently
copumpkin: fuck lambos
mircea_popescu: mclaren HONDA ?
BingoBoingo: Oh, the reasons I found a drive through miracle maker for my disorderly conduct misdemeanor, allegedly
copumpkin: you should get it
mircea_popescu: i don't drive
copumpkin: high five
copumpkin: I get driven
mircea_popescu: i also don't care for sportsters.
copumpkin crosses arms smugly
copumpkin: mircea_popescu is too cool to drive, walks around with an open shirt on the street
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: (and my zipper's not done in that shot, either)
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll keep driving the shitty family sedan. No one suspects...
copumpkin: oh I wasn't checking
B007: how do you have money and not drive?
B007: or at least own cars
BingoBoingo: B007: Well Mircea has slaves, and copumpkin something?
copumpkin: I don't have a license
copumpkin: I get by without :)
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=Mercedes-Benz+E+230+(W210)&complete=0 << that, for instance, is imo one of the best cars ever made.
mircea_popescu: B007 i have cars, sometimes. i had dozens at some point. i jus' don't drive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59098897 = 2.364 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59098898 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Pirate: And when I find that information, I will give you the updated information and show you that this was not a Ponzi scam. Just give me time. I promise you."
mircea_popescu: that's some epic shit right there.
copumpkin: I liked the bit where they said "so wait, your company folded and you're in trouble now because someone screwed you out of 202k coins, and you forget who that someone is?"
BingoBoingo: Document one was the lulzier doc
mircea_popescu: i pity that moustakis guy.
copumpkin: that was a long-ass interview
copumpkin: must've been exhausting for both of them
mircea_popescu: it's like you sign up to be a chiropractor, and you end up sent to practice in the loony bin
copumpkin: moustakis had to stay focused to catch all the crap the guy was saying, and I'm sure pirate was in overdrive trying to crank out more crap
BingoBoingo: Eh, looney bin ain't bad
mircea_popescu: copumpkin no, not for both of them. romanian expression is "nu te pune cu prostu' c-are mintea odihnita"
mircea_popescu: which says, don't mess with the stupid, his brain's well rested.
BingoBoingo: Get crayons
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I dunno, there were several pretty awkward moments when it was clear he'd been caught in a lie
mircea_popescu: so i take it you read this whole thing ? carefully ?
copumpkin: I'm sure he was freaking out and trying to come up with more convincing crap
copumpkin: well, I read the whole thing, not sure carefully fits
mircea_popescu: how about you make a full length treatment of the whole thing, with notes ?
mircea_popescu: i'd read it.
mircea_popescu: are you under counsel to stfu or anything ?
copumpkin: I'd rather sleep
copumpkin: no, not at all
mircea_popescu: fuck sleep.
mircea_popescu: srsly, it's the best thing you can do right now.
mircea_popescu: for "the community", or w/e you call it.
copumpkin: fuck that
copumpkin: sleep :)
mircea_popescu: irsrs tho.
joecool: store your passwords with him
copumpkin: I'm sure you can find someone with less valuable time to summarize the shit
BingoBoingo: copumpkin: The veggies need their prison tomorrow. When you wake...
copumpkin: joecool: you've made that joke before, it's getting old
mircea_popescu: copumpkin you're in a very good position because you have the skill and the experience.
mircea_popescu: what, you think i just sprout this shit randomly cause i'm bored on irc
BingoBoingo: copumpkin: My time is probably the least valuable, but your insight is probably the most.
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copumpkin: I'm sure if this goes anywhere serious they'll call on me to testify
joecool: copumpkin: :( cranky
copumpkin: not that I'll really want to
copumpkin: given how much the fucker talks about me
mircea_popescu: if that does happen, this write-up will be a great thing to have.
copumpkin: it seems almost inevitable
BingoBoingo: copumpkin: DO a writeup in the next couple weeks, GPG sign it
copumpkin: I don't see what the benefit would be
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for this purpose publishing beats signing.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Given the nothingness published pre-August2012 publishing means little. "Shall be delivered"
mircea_popescu: copumpkin the usual benefit. a furthering of human knowledge on a topic.
BingoBoingo: Volume of text versus affirmed text
mircea_popescu: seeing how rthis topic is bitcoin, it kind-of trumps any other topic, even if some other topic may offer the illusion of importance.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I'm not opposed to it, but am not in a huge rush to spend my time on it either :) and would rather it be done in a formal setting so someone else can take care of summarizing/transcribing it :P
BingoBoingo: Of course.
copumpkin: it doesn't trump that I have to get up for work in a few hours and need my beauty sleep
mircea_popescu: if you note, i said "full length treatment, with notes"
mircea_popescu: that does not map on "summarize"
copumpkin: pfft
BingoBoingo: I honestly am beneath this project
mircea_popescu: anyway. sleep well.
copumpkin: but anyway, as I said, I'm not opposed to doing that at some point :) thanks
BingoBoingo: I got the /. twice, but I am beneath the background necessary to treat this right
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i just went through the list of names there, which remarkably i had pretty accurate to begin with. crossing out the outright liars, like psychological compulsive sort, and the idiots, you're left with maybe 2-3 names
mircea_popescu: and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My list is comprable, but I the weight the "testimony" offer weighs so little on names I've assumed more guilty.
ozbot: Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around Lyrics | MetroLyrics
BingoBoingo: You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs. And you think if you save poor Catherine, you could make them stop, don't you? You think if Catherine lives, you won't wake up in the dark ever again to that awful screaming of the lambs.
BingoBoingo: All those delicious lambs.
mircea_popescu: anyway this shit is pretty epic, it wasn't that zeek rewards went under, it's just that he can't remember who had 200k btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00385 = 1.5092 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Did anyone have 200k BTC?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 614 @ 0.00385 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: First principles, Simplicity. Read Aristotle. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00385 = 0.2888 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Oh, NeoButt is crashing
mircea_popescu: GNULinuxGuy did you end up buying in ?
mircea_popescu: lol moiety
BingoBoingo: This spring it takes what? 2 BTC to kill Harnett's bankerness? AAA-???BBQ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07634752 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: well no cause there isn't one.
mircea_popescu: it's free!
mircea_popescu: so basically all the aurora crap ACTUALLY WAS strictly intended to win the bitbet bet.
mircea_popescu: qed, fuckers.
BingoBoingo: BitBet needs better submissions
mircea_popescu: someone was doing futures i saw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59079997 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Mystery futures market maker
BingoBoingo: Making serious markets
BingoBoingo: While maintaining serious mystery
mircea_popescu: sounds like a coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07634753 = 2.2904 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59079997 = 5.3172 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: I know a bunch of -assets people's Bitbet payout addresses and this bettor isn't obviously one.
BingoBoingo: Especially since BTC taint is not a thing.
BingoBoingo: Bitbet marketing must be good.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5974257 = 4.182 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: well ok, but "i know" means i know some not i know all in this context neh ?
mircea_popescu: "like, i know my wife's husband and he happens to be me"
mircea_popescu: sure, if you say so. last night she said differently.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60949995 = 1.8285 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Well in this case I know a wife was active. My wife was missing. I however do not know that any wife of mine was involved with any of these activities.
jcpham: half truths mircea_popescu
jcpham: it's atangled web
BingoBoingo: Lovely things about BTC
mircea_popescu: "Law Office of Clifford Lloyd"
mircea_popescu: if someone ends up disbared over pirate's dumb ass that'll be the lol of all time.
BingoBoingo: Pirate seems to have months of lols left
BingoBoingo: And in a civil suit.
BingoBoingo: Only in Bitcoin-exile is such a thing possible
B007: and this is how you pump & dump http://s29.postimg.org/z0dwcl4rb/bitcoin.png
B007: I made 78 in a day
B007: im so proud
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B007: huh
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dunno where you get the "civil proceedings" notions from.
mircea_popescu: guy just gave himself a criminal contempt count.
B007: is that guy fuked ? I think so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43124 @ 0.00083231 = 35.8925 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: that is oral culture at its finest. this guy is not part of contemporaneity, or even modernity. he finds himself in a roughly feudal time. back before literacy.
mircea_popescu: further proof that teaching kids to read and write is not either sufficient or particularly related to literacy.
B007: ofc you can't make people read if they dont want to
mircea_popescu: you can make people do absolutely anything they should be doing, provided you're comitted to beating them to death if they do not, and start before they're 5.
B007: but will they continue after the person that would beat them is gone?
chetty: yeah, it becomes habit
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mircea_popescu: hey D : someone over there ain't doing their job of reading properly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.04282717 = 0.9422 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0008336 = 10.295 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: B007 yes, it will continue. not even strictly of habit, as chetty says. take washing : once you get used to your smell when you're clean, you're not likely to stop washing.
mircea_popescu: but if you're used to your smell being filthy, you'll just keep on doing that because... whatever.
mircea_popescu: "whoever loves you loves you as you are" and all that.
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mircea_popescu: so it's habit, but it's also that once you know things, stupidity appears quite different from how it appears back when you don't know things.
mircea_popescu: you gain what's called metacognitive ability.
mircea_popescu: and so you understand both why you had to be beaten, and why you'll be beating the shit off your kids, too. so they don't end up like the retarded us scum.
jurov: well, once you keep yourself clean other people can start to smell horribly (applies to stupidity as well)
mircea_popescu: which is why society naturally segregates. it's not that the upper class hates the lower class. it's just that the lower class... stinks.
chetty: I wonder if much of the animosity between tea party and occupy could be simply smell?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for a total lulz : check out sec's own version of pgp, the pse : http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/containers/fix064/891166/0000898432-05-000712.txt
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mircea_popescu: chetty most of it. politics is a sexual matter.
midnightmagic: children do better, perform better, respond better, and grow better when they aren't beaten.
mircea_popescu: you mean irl or in dreamland ?
midnightmagic: irl. There is virtually no evidence at all that beating children helps.
midnightmagic: There is virtually all the evidence that says that *not* beating them but maintaining discipline helps.
chetty: depends on the child, some actually need it
mircea_popescu: no, actually, there is an endless record of evidence that it does. what there's no evidence for is that not beating them is sustainable.
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary evidence abounds.
midnightmagic: No, there isn't.
mircea_popescu: we can move on to discussing how temperatures form a golf club pattern next
mircea_popescu: but as an exercise : consider whether you're randomly lumping together beating children with simple abuse, as a sort of strawman argument.
mircea_popescu: some random drunk randomly hitting some kid is absolutely not within the scope of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: children have to be beaten systematically, in which case most don't actually even need pyshical contact.
midnightmagic: I understand what you mean. Virtually all infant and child development research disagrees with you.
mircea_popescu: virtually all data fugded by post 1950 us pseudoscience on the topic says random stupid shit.
mircea_popescu: it's about as good as us epidemiological data, that crap.
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mircea_popescu: well, either that or magically all kids suddenly need ritalin.
midnightmagic: No, ritalin is over-prescribed. That's evil on its own.
mircea_popescu: but it is over prescrived on the basis of " virtually all infant and child development research"
mircea_popescu: the same pseudoscientific process created both notions.
midnightmagic: I'm just saying, as much as it's possible to know such things, physical pain or even physical discomfort versus non-physical discipline tactics: the physical discipline is not as effective.
mircea_popescu: indeed. but do you know why ?
mircea_popescu: because the group that responds to the former well is SELF SELECTED.
midnightmagic: No it's not. Research is not the basis of ritalin over-prescription. In fact the research states that it is over-prescribed.
mircea_popescu: ie, theyre the smarter kids anwyay.
mircea_popescu: problem is the entire system collapses once kids know nobody can ever get beaten.
mircea_popescu: much like the us nuclear weapons, which the us refuses to declare will never be used.
chetty: fear is a wonderful motivation
midnightmagic: fear is not the most effective motivation. fear is not a direct motivator, it is a motivator to game the cease of fear.
mircea_popescu: basically you're externalising a cost. when "kids get beaten" subset A1 gets actually beaten and subset A2 learns from their experience.
mircea_popescu: you then run studies showing that A2 responds better than A1
mircea_popescu: once "kids don't get beaten" everyone's ~A2.
midnightmagic: That is fundamental study design. They don't make those kinds of selection bias mistakes in the research on which consensus is formed.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic only in uncontrolled environments. in controlled environments, fear is a motivator exactly for education.
midnightmagic: Else someone else trying to make a name for themselves comes along and destroys it.
mircea_popescu: it's how the child brain works, for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic nobody is going t omake a name for themselves in the current us showing that not beating kids is a wrong thing.
midnightmagic: Yeeaaahh.. no. Sure it's a motivator. I'm just saying it's not the most effective.
mircea_popescu: it's not the most effective huh ?
mircea_popescu: it's the one to which kids can pose no resistence.
midnightmagic: I would say about half or more of the US actually agrees with you that beating children is the best way.
mircea_popescu: it's ultimate, not effectual.
mircea_popescu: it presents guarantees of success.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic yes, but not the 14% aspirational crowd that "makes" names
midnightmagic: Anyway, just pointing it out. If you have access to a research institute with fulltext, you should check it out. It's really fascinating and, for me at least, counter-intuitive.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i think the most we can arrive to is stating the respective positions.
midnightmagic: Here, yeah for sure.
chetty: no 'academic' would admit things like that, anymore than admit global warming is off. the wouldn't get their grants.
mircea_popescu: chetty presumably the free market still exists in the us, both financially and with regard to ideas, so such an academic would "make a name for himself"
mircea_popescu: somehow.
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reeses_: I ignore nothing. I just don't pay attention.
chetty: ha, hasn't been a free market in ideas for a very long time
reeses_: I love that he claims a ccie and ccna and doesn't know what ccie stands for
reeses_: and that he got the ccie in high school
mircea_popescu: hence "<mircea_popescu> and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore."
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reeses_: switch what I said, then, I was ignoring it
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic but on the topic of making a name for oneself, know who tried that ? a certain dr. gleason. he tried to make a name for himself as not being a contemptible piece of shit. he was convicted, eventually, and then killed himself.
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mircea_popescu: reeses_ well then read the discussion with mr pineaple above too.
midnightmagic: huh. Never heard of him.
mircea_popescu: kinda my point.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i'm stuck with an ever increasing intel dept
mircea_popescu: because nobody hears of anything anymore somehow.
midnightmagic has trouble getting "to the moon, alice" out of his head
reeses_: yeah, working my way through the docs right now as well
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reeses_: oh man this is so wrong
reeses_: I love it
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mircea_popescu: reeses_ he somehow omitted his cisco number
mircea_popescu: or did they stop giving out those ?
reeses_: yeah, I went to look it up
reeses_: :-)
reeses_: no, they're still numbered
mircea_popescu: yeah its still there
reeses_: but it's not as prestigious now, although it would still have been when he was in school
mircea_popescu: in 2000ish ? yea, it think it'd have been all over slashdot. "highschooler gets ccie!!1"
mircea_popescu: o wait. no slashdot yet.
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reeses_: yeah, /. was around then, no?
mircea_popescu: wasnt it 2003 ish ?
mircea_popescu: no nm, turns out its late 90s.
mircea_popescu: "news at eight : everything is older than you think."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
mircea_popescu: this shit's pretty good.
reeses_: my homework is here somewhere, I think copumpkin has it
mircea_popescu: Duffer1: big one and number two.. anyone taking bets one of those was goat? << yes. how much you wanna bet ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58000003 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i wonder wtf is happening there re missing txns
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 39 @ 0.0055 = 0.2145 BTC
mircea_popescu: this does not look toogood.
kakobrekla: they had an orphan in the list instead of the real block
kakobrekla: cause they were doing upgrades
kakobrekla: and were down for a bit
kakobrekla: and that happend.
dexX7: true, people were complaining about strange behavior for a few days now
dexX7: oh really? but the blockhash etc. was correct?
dexX7: well, good then that it's known
kakobrekla: well i dunno, thats the word i got and i dont think its made up
kakobrekla: except if this is a different thing.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 wait, what blockhash ?
mircea_popescu: you mean the hash of the block as reported then matches the hash as reported now ?!
kakobrekla: anyway, whatever it is its blockchain.info related, not bitcoin
dexX7: and everything was correct except the number of transactions + the missing ones were indeed not listed
mircea_popescu: dexX7 the logic here is as follows :
mircea_popescu: the validity of a block is not established until later. which is what orphans and chain reorgs are.
mircea_popescu: if a service like blockchain.info goes down (ie, stops listening to the chain) it may end up with the impression a meanwhile discarded block is still valid
mircea_popescu: this would necessarily result in them listing a different set of txns from the actual set as found on the actual chain
dexX7: a discarded block would have another hash
mircea_popescu: which'd be caught up once it reorgs
mircea_popescu: but yes, said block would have to have its own hash
mircea_popescu: so did it not ?
mircea_popescu: cause if it did not then the orphan theory is blown.
dexX7: the hash and merkleroot was the same
mircea_popescu: well then i suppose you'd better blog about it, or post or somthing.
mircea_popescu: (i don't keep much of an eye on blockchain.info since there exists blockr)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: thats what you get when retarded webdevs make exchanges, for the seventy fifth time << mpoe-pr sez https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4924847#msg4924847 but retards know better. as per usual.
mircea_popescu: re smickles : fwiw i knew he wasn't in vegas too.
dexX7: maybe blockchain receives the complete blocks from it's backend in some way and had a small blackout while post-processing and adding the txs to their db ... well, who knows. they seem to be aware though.
kakobrekla: afaik the txes listed there were from an orphan
mircea_popescu: dexX7 maybe, let cary explain it.
mircea_popescu: so far, the "orphan" theory has a prblm.
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kakobrekla: i havent checked anything but whats the problem
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that if they had an orphan it would show its own hash and root, not the correct block's.
mircea_popescu: if you go "block 200344, here's the hash (from block 200344') and here's the txn, from block 200344" you got a problem
kakobrekla: not necessarily, you dont know what the bug was
dexX7: there is no orphaned block listed for 288788, but i only have blockchain.info as source
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla which is why i say let cary explain it, how the fuck would we know.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did it actually say "Michael Marquardt" or theymos or what ?
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mircea_popescu: fucking bs impossible to grep
chetty: just Theymos I think
kakobrekla: two block appeared with same blockheight on blockchain info
kakobrekla: they had a fail and had to manually fix it thats why its not in the standard orphaned blocks page
kakobrekla: nothing to the story, move along.
mircea_popescu: same blockheight, same hash, diff txn set ?
mircea_popescu: some fail.
dexX7: but there was only one block in the network and two on blockchain.info due to the fail, right?
kakobrekla: afaik no
kakobrekla: 2 blocks on the network
kakobrekla: one is gone from bc records
mircea_popescu: so was this an evil block in some sense ?
kakobrekla: in the sense any other orphan would be an evil block to bc.info at the time
kakobrekla: as well
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: "realizing net proceeds of $164,758 from his net sales of 86,202 bitcoins" << epic.
mircea_popescu: some people buy in at a little over 2, some people sell out at a little under 2, life goes on.
Diablo-D3: has the ukraine nuked russia yet?
reeses_: mircea_popescu: it just means his average spread was $2, which was ok at the time :-)
reeses_: what a sad amount, though :-)
mircea_popescu: i fucking wonder, you know, what the thought process of the mentally impaired is.
reeses_: I mean, sure, that's real money in shitholes like texas and romania
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: look in the mirror! dohohohohoho
mircea_popescu: like shavers, like taaki, like maxwell, like you know, the lengthy list of idiots that were "involved" early on
mircea_popescu: and then sorta... fell off.
reeses_: the mentally impaired generally lack the ability for introspection
Diablo-D3: oh man
reeses_: it's tough
Diablo-D3: I remember taaki
mircea_popescu: i guess this is true. what a blessing it is, then.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: a lot of early people quit
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'd be all "o fuck me, 160k for 80k btc ? i did that ? srsly ? "
reeses_: ok I'm sure he is doing that now
mircea_popescu: i guess that's why the sec claiming the current price is a good thing
reeses_: yeah
mircea_popescu: basically the da exists to make the stupid introspect
reeses_: since they hold the coins, too
mircea_popescu: that's all it's there for. costs the rest of us a prett ypenny, too
mircea_popescu: ;;rated Vandroiy
gribble: You rated user Vandroiy on Sat Sep 1 23:00:35 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light..
kakobrekla: isnt taaki still herp derping around, why are you talking like he is history, i mean he might be, but he doesnt know that
kakobrekla: nor act like it
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cause no btc.
mircea_popescu: btc, tits. btc is the only thing that matters, the only thing that lasts. tara!
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kakobrekla: i bet we will see him on 'major' tv stations this year
kakobrekla: probably the next too
kakobrekla: present history
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mircea_popescu: actually correct quote : “The BTC is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for, because it's the only thing that lasts".
kakobrekla: only until the end of the universe :\
kakobrekla: so you might as well just fuck it
ozbot: As a European this is how I imagine Americans have breakfast - Imgur
ozbot: Is Bitstamp going the same way as Gox?
kakobrekla: oh my, a marketing director!!
kakobrekla takes his hat off
mircea_popescu: anyway, the one - pretty much the only one - barb for the sec in the pirate story is that indeed the facts seem to support pirate's allegation that he actually paid out the newest investors first.
mircea_popescu: moustakis tried to finesse it out of the testimony, and absent any sort of competent defese it will probably wash away just fine
mircea_popescu: but it is quite atypical for a ponzi
mircea_popescu: anyway, funny how goat got double paid, suckled something from pirate, suckled something from suckers buying debt...
mircea_popescu: ;;rated chaang-noi
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mircea_popescu: ;;seen chaang-noi
gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> might have to sue em
BigBitz: kakobrekla?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm is at least fucking ideologically bizarre. they represent electrification as this obscure political strategy move, when it's quite obvious the thing proceeded on economic rationale.
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dexX7: ^ satoshi found ;)
mircea_popescu: not nick szabo again is it ?
mircea_popescu: lmao newsweek beat the bushes till they found one guy named satoshi nakamoto that was within driving distance
mircea_popescu: herp derp dur dur durr.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the responsible tard being Leah McGrath Goodman
nubbins`: responsible enough to publish a photo of the guy's home, with number visible
nubbins`: poor man
mircea_popescu: at least gavin goes on the record saying that he doesn't need any money,
mircea_popescu: and a bunch of other retarded shit.
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mircea_popescu: Andresen responded: "Yeah, I'm not happy with the 'wacky pirate money' tone, either."
mircea_popescu: Then he told Nakamoto he'd accepted an invitation to speak at the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. "I hope that by talking directly to them and, more importantly, listening to their questions/concerns, they will think of Bitcoin the way I do - as a just-plain-better, more efficient, less-subject-to-political-whims money," he said. "Not as an all-powerful black-market tool that will be used by anarchists to ove
mircea_popescu: rthrow the System."
mircea_popescu: From that moment, Satoshi Nakamoto stopped responding to emails and dropped off the map.
mircea_popescu: as scummy as it gets.
nubbins`: thanks gavin!
nubbins`: okay, i just bought tickets to see neutral milk hotel in berlin
nubbins`: time to wake up pascale by smacking her in the face with them
ozbot: In the Aeroplane Over the Sea- Neutral Milk Hotel - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "If you come out as the leader of Bitcoin, now you have to make appearances and presentations and comments to the press and that didn't really fit with Satoshi's personality,"
mircea_popescu: kinda shocking how stupid this character is, seriously.
mircea_popescu: you gotta ? really ? how about the press and all that learns to irc instead. not like bitcoin is here to _adapt_ to anything now is it.
kakobrekla: irc lol is that even still a thing?
mircea_popescu: "He was the kind of person who, if you made an honest mistake, he might call you an idiot and never speak to you again," Andresen says.
mircea_popescu: yet he somehow magically doesn't understand why satoshi ain't talkin' to him no more.
mircea_popescu: i wonder. what could it be ?
nubbins`: "hey bru, know that disruptive technology you've been working on? well, i just got invited to speak with the cia about it! amazing, huh?"
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah, it's where the UK prime minister trawls for special assistants to help him get the best child pron
nubbins`: trawling decimated fish stocks here
mircea_popescu: anyway, enough loling at fucktarded english major chicks, back to rift crafting
mircea_popescu: the lyf and tymes.
ozbot: Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: yeah. sad.
nubbins`: almost one in ten newfoundlanders made their living doing that
nubbins`: unemployed overnight :0
mircea_popescu: that's nothing.
mircea_popescu: about two in three white people are employed working for the government.
mircea_popescu: comes to about 600mn to be unemployed overnight one of these nights.
ozbot: The end of the Cod - John Crosbie in Bay Bulls Canada Day 1992. - YouTube
nubbins`: federal fisheries minister to angry mob: "i didn't take the fish out of the goddamn water"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: we're only getting rid of white government? ;0
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only places with actual government are white majority population.
mircea_popescu: china i suppose is making some moves towards relevancy, but i know jack shit about china
nubbins`: planen... not holding breath ;(
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ozbot: Twitter / gavinandresen: I'm disappointed Newsweek decided ...
dexX7: "I'm disappointed Newsweek decided to dox the Nakamoto family, and regret talking to Leah."
mircea_popescu: total derp this guy.
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: do you think the article was an invasion of privacy?
mircea_popescu: i think the article was an ebullution of idiocy.
nubbins`: i just bought thirty-seven pounds of pork shoulder
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ozbot: When China's Food Runs Out - Forbes
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MisterE: finally someone gets it
MisterE: whats's a good non-Win bot?
MisterE: I run os x or Debian
mircea_popescu: irc bot you mean ?
asciilifeform: where is the proof that the old man had anything to do with btc? or even exists
MisterE: no trading bot
MisterE: for btc and alts
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asciilifeform: MisterE: i posted here about this a few days ago, look in logs if you're interested.
asciilifeform: MisterE: (re: china)
MisterE: oh?
MisterE: nice, ty
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MisterE: why mircea_popescu say Ukraine is not productive and that article says its where .ch wants to buy its land becouse produces a lot of wheat?
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asciilifeform: MisterE: the chinese have certain methods of farming 'disposable' (i.e. belonging to untermenschen) lands
asciilifeform: MisterE: they have demonstrated this in the russian far east, where they occupied various places, some legally (rented), some otherwise
MisterE: farming has got to go hydro and less land intensive
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: ua rebels now have... their own crematorium. (http://www.svpressa.ru/society/article/83339)
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somebody should teach these folks the virtues of seppuku.
mircea_popescu: but why ? if the cattle harakiri'd randomly wed have all these stale carcasses all over.
asciilifeform: ah, they just need to do it in a certified abbatoir.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "if there's a fire, don't do anything, call the fire people"
mircea_popescu: "if there's a robbery don't do anything, call the robbery people"
mircea_popescu: "if you feel like your time is up... don't... do anything... call the... "
asciilifeform: '1-800-SEP-UKKU' ...
mircea_popescu: facebukku
dexX7: "fiat style attack" ..?
mircea_popescu: lol i don't get it.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 yes. identity established not through the mechanism it is predicated upon, but through "the agreement" of "the people", specifically those who are too stupid to even understand what's being discussed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that cup is referring to a cheap sf flick, 'children of men', where there's an apocalyptic degringolade, and pill in question is a bestseller.
mircea_popescu: roughly equivalent to some kid trying to resolve his upset at bitbet by "getting votes"
mircea_popescu: oh. musta been before my time.
asciilifeform: i think
dexX7: ah and in contrast one would simply sign some genesis coins and that's it
mircea_popescu: dexX7 right ?
dexX7: yes
asciilifeform: well, they're pushing a picture of a 'go away, i won't admit the deed' satoshi
mircea_popescu: or whatever, send 1 bitcent from the genesis block to 1newsweak98759843
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mircea_popescu: about fifty different ways to go about it, all taking five minutes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if fake satoshi comes up with some derpage about how we should all love each other, feed africa and stop oppressing faggots it'll be just perfect.
asciilifeform: the real fun starts when we get a 2nd, 3rd... лжеsatoshi.
mircea_popescu: or whatever, fighting economic unequality and promoting the virtues of an unspecified, bug ridden codebase and the halfwits that nursed it to this day
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually there's already a dude claiming he's it
mircea_popescu: (also legally named satoshi nakamoto)
asciilifeform: but he wasn't anointed by nooseweak, was he
mircea_popescu: i guess that one had the disadvantage that the entire nonsense needed plane tickets, and newsweek wouldn't spring
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mircea_popescu: so the girl had to hitchhike to sonora or w/e
mircea_popescu: closer to home.
mircea_popescu: wherever a guy who "was deeply influenced by silicon valley" and also "uses prefix notation" could be found.
asciilifeform: 'uses prefix notation' ?!1!
pigeons: and two spaces after periods
asciilifeform: turns out i'm satoshi - who knew.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, yes. whatever you call it, polish ?
MisterE: 2 spaces is asian
mircea_popescu: no, you're just deeply influenced by silicon valley.
pigeons: i thought everyone did that
MisterE: well this side of the pond
MisterE: no not uS
mircea_popescu: like you know... i don't think you can find someone doing that in the vc circus if your life depended on it
MisterE: it seems I come across double spacing less often now though, maybe just me
mircea_popescu: MisterE it's really a leftover from typewriter days.
MisterE: or if its lazy good for nothing cheating students
mircea_popescu: makes 0 sense on a digital system
MisterE: oh yea totally fogotten
pigeons: omg, my husbandhas bad grammar too, just like satoshi nakamoto
mircea_popescu: wait, you have a husband now ?
mircea_popescu: AND a wife ?
MisterE: hah
mircea_popescu: what are you, the family dog ?
pigeons: depends what day it is
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ozbot: Putin | Ukraine | Crimea | Nobel Peace Prize | Nomination
asciilifeform: chetty: he'll get his right after snowden.
chetty: hahahahaha
asciilifeform: chetty: and it won't be a nobel pederasteace prize, but a Lenin prize.
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chetty: but then he and O could make a club or sumthin
mircea_popescu: well i dunno, the peace prize seems inappropriate.
mircea_popescu: putin could get the physics nobel for his crimeea contgributions
mircea_popescu: bernanke math...
asciilifeform: some joker ought to fund a 'fields medal' for... spam.
asciilifeform: Chumpatronics Medal
MisterE: hmm maybe a pot fund
MisterE: it's going to be huge cash when it sweeps america next 10-years
asciilifeform: MisterE: S.MOKE ?
MisterE: yup
asciilifeform: MisterE: see mp's essay on cattle-tronics technology to learn why this is not actually an idea.
mircea_popescu: actually this is pretty funny : The New Yorker's satoshi is Michael Clear ; Fast Company's satoshi is (Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry). Business Insider's satoshi is Nick Szabo.
mircea_popescu: there are also two individuals legally named satoshi nakamoto, one presenting himself as satoshi, the other being presented by newsweek as satoshi
mircea_popescu: there's also Shinichi Mochizuki, Gavin's wife, Jed McCaleb (judging by kraken... god help us)
chetty: Crimea votes to join Russia
mircea_popescu: there's of course also the government
jurov: chetty what, they finally moved the refendum to yesterday?
jurov: *referendum
jurov: it was supposed to be at 30th, then at 16th
chetty: Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days
asciilifeform: i'd really have to be in the place of a fellow 'getting satoshied'
asciilifeform: can already feel the rectothermal warmth just thinking about it.
asciilifeform: *really hate
jurov: nice freudian slip
chetty: well all the Satochies could get together and have a party
asciilifeform: 'skull of voltaire as a child'
mircea_popescu: party sounds good.
mircea_popescu: except no women ?
chetty: ok so Satochies and guests
asciilifeform: surely some could be found. the journarasts should work harder.
asciilifeform: at some point you'll have to demonstrate a cyanide tooth to be even considered a proper candidate for satoshidom.
mircea_popescu: satoshidom
pLambert: do we know that Satoshi is a male?
mircea_popescu: satoshidoms and satoshidommes, at the bcst!
mircea_popescu: pLambert i was merely commenting on the people held up for the role by the media so far.
mircea_popescu: we don't know jack.
asciilifeform: pLambert: how anyone can claim to know anything at all about s, is a mystery.
chetty: hmmmmm sounds like a great halloween costume :satoshidommes
asciilifeform: the best evident for nsatoshi, for instance, is the grungy cpp
asciilifeform: rather than anything posted under the name
mircea_popescu: TC: Does it matter? What would it change if it did, in your opinion?
mircea_popescu: SG: I think it’s very important to identify Satoshi at this point in Bitcoin’s history. The “agenda” behind Bitcoin, if there is any, cannot stay in the shadow if Bitcoin is to become a mainstream alternative currency, a challenge to the world’s monetary status quo. There has been speculation that Bitcoin may have been created by a government agency (the main employers of cryptographers of mathematicians) in
mircea_popescu: an attempt to make financial transactions easier to mine for interesting data patterns: we need to clear that up before we start relying heavily on Bitcoin in our lives.
mircea_popescu: no but check out the stupid.
mircea_popescu: people are incredible.
mircea_popescu: TC: How has your digging gone over in the BTC community? It seems like an unpopular topic at best.
mircea_popescu: SG: It has not been received well, many people are telling me to “leave Satoshi alone”. But when one starts having a huge impact on the world, one loses his right to anonymity.
mircea_popescu: i gotta stop reading on this topic jesus god they're offensive.
asciilifeform: ;;google sympathetic magic
gribble: Sympathetic magic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_magic>; Chapter 3. Sympathetic Magic. § 1. The Principles of Magic. Frazer ...: <http://www.bartleby.com/196/5.html>; Sympathetic magic - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sympathetic%20magic>
asciilifeform: ;;google ritual cleanliness
gribble: Ritual purification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_purification>; Ritual washing in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_washing_in_Judaism>; Tumah and taharah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumah_and_taharah>
asciilifeform: tomorrow's headline: 'vlad p signs message with satoshi's key, asking idiots to stfu'
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone who does so... will be satoshi
asciilifeform: or at least a fork.
mircea_popescu: actually this suggests a bet to me.
asciilifeform: i thought people didn't like 'geological' bets.
nubbins`: first shoulder trimmed and cubed
nubbins`: hands like claws
mircea_popescu: meh, too hard to specify.
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nubbins`: so i sent a coin to australia on january 14. it took nineteen days to get from here to vancouver, and finally arrived in australia today
nubbins`: what a wait!
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ozbot: Norway will cut through an island in tribute to massacre victims | The Verge
cazalla: that's quite a long time nubbins`
cazalla: maybe it was stuck at customs
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cazalla: with standard shipping, i usually get amazon orders to here in around 2 weeks
nubbins`: i've never had anything take so long -- wondering what shape the package will be in when it arrives
nubbins`: 19 days to cross canada is nuts :0
ThickAsThieves: maybe it was intercepted
mircea_popescu: inception
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, that's pretty striking
nubbins`: (re: link)
nubbins`: re: package, my guess is the express shipping label somehow got ripped off
nubbins`: and it went surface
ThickAsThieves: i can't recall a better memorial idea
nubbins`: at least the month and a half of panicking is over. guy paid 6btc for the coin inside, via escrow
ThickAsThieves: maybe have the guy photograph it before opening the package
ThickAsThieves: in case it was tampered with
nubbins`: yeah, conditions included hd video of unpackaging
nubbins`: can't be too careful
nubbins`: this buyer was the only person so far who took me up on the offer to extend the pgp chain of custody
dexX7: nubbins` you already used super slow shipping for the baked cat shirts, so i'm not surprised :p
nubbins`: well, that was more practicality than anything. nobody wants to spend $30 shipping on a $15 shirt
nubbins`: coins, i send express :D
dexX7: was it a redeemed one?
nubbins`: nope
dexX7: :)
nubbins`: i only ever peeled one casascius coin (0.5btc brass)
nubbins`: was thrilling
nubbins`: for about a minute
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KRS-One: You need to get out more nubbins`
ozbot: Bitcoin exchange First Meta CEO Autumn Radtke found dead - Technology & Science - CBC News
nubbins`: KRS-One: the problem is how to entertain myself while i'm in!
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mircea_popescu: dun dun dun
nubbins`: sadtrumpet.mp3
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dexX7: there are several headlines with "bitcoin ceo died" =D
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ozbot: Could bars open until 6 a.m. be in Montreal's future? - Montreal - CBC News
nubbins`: ^ HEH
nubbins`: cops are gonna love that
nubbins`: this will last until the first hockey game
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ThickAsThieves: Hearn keeps on giving
ozbot: Most Popular Bitcoin Apps Soon To Run On Tor Anonymity Network - Forbes
ThickAsThieves: ^ source
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benkay: *sigh*
nubbins`: forbes.com/sites/
nubbins`: is where i stopped reading
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ThickAsThieves: i dont think it's quite the same as CNN/sites/
ThickAsThieves: might just be where they keep their "columnists"
nubbins`: oh, i think you might be right
dexX7: the bci block has 693 txs
kakobrekla: yeah dunno
dexX7: *the real one has 693 (instead of 554)
kakobrekla: yes also the hash matches real hash on blockr
kakobrekla: interestingly enough dexX7 , tx fees match perfectly
kakobrekla: only 150txes missing
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dexX7: yea. the one from earlier was fixed on bc.info in the meantime
mircea_popescu: so is this coindesk basically a hand aggregator of the retarded press ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
mircea_popescu: some kid just sits and googles forbes, business dorksider etc all day ?
nubbins`: reading an article about Staples closing 225 stores and there's a quote from some asshole about "right-sizing" their retail footprint
nubbins`: fuck, i hate business speak
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nubbins`: back when i worked in a fabric-covered box, i walked past an office and overheard the woman inside talking about a "head count reduction"
kakobrekla: dexX7 well what can i say, blockr seems more reliable :)
nubbins`: nobody's getting fired, we're just going to count people, and if you don't get counted you're not getting paid
dexX7: indeed. i like the website
mircea_popescu: dexX7 this may be more or less the time one removes any large btc balances from blockchain
kakobrekla: dexX7 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 might be the problem
kakobrekla: and it seems its the tx that they made
kakobrekla: so it seems they have a prob with their own txes
mircea_popescu: hence my comment.
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dexX7: the note only means that the tx was relayed or broadcasted by bci
dexX7: the tx has actually 928 confirmations
ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4
mircea_popescu: "hypothesis on why I think the real Sotoshi was found"
mircea_popescu: defonituly.
ozbot: Female WestJet pilot posts passenger's sexist note on Facebook - British Columbia - CBC News
kakobrekla: yeah, its not 100% from them, but likely
nubbins`: "I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the 'cockpit,' (we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required), is no place for a lady. In fact, there are no places that are not for ladies anymore."
nubbins`: HAHAHAHA PLUS ONE
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mircea_popescu: out of the cockpit ?
ThickAsThieves: more of an i-told-you-so
mircea_popescu: "Too funny. Despite the incoherence of his blog post, at least MP has finally stepped up and conceded the incompetence of his former approach to options market making. For finally admitting that and quitting the business of options market making without being adequately prepared, he deserves a positive acknowledgement."
mircea_popescu: dude that moore idiot should have been shot.
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mircea_popescu: because the us failed to execute him, the entire country is now full of losers who imagine that if they somehow pour drivel which happens to contain references to GM's CEO they somehow gain relevance.
kakobrekla: dexX7 apparently it was fixed, perhaps they are reading assets logs or something
dexX7: hehe
ThickAsThieves: someone should poke them to explain why it happened and won't happen again
kakobrekla: but it will!
ThickAsThieves: ^ Cary ^
mircea_popescu: maybe they, you know, independently audit their own chainz
kakobrekla: the block was a week old
kakobrekla: or smth
mircea_popescu: 900 confirms huh
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess.
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kakobrekla: schrodingers blockchain
mircea_popescu: so today i woke up to the pirate sec deposition, and i had to interrupt my launch because some overqualified stripper went off the deep end in newsweek
mircea_popescu: the theory that three's a charm is kind-of giving me goosebumps atm.
mircea_popescu: s/launch/lunch
lnovy: mircea_popescu: i've just read mpoe february 2014 statement and I cannot hold myself to tell you this: Good job.
kakobrekla: are you like dr gregs evil brother?
lnovy: i have my own asshole brother :)
kakobrekla: luxury
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how these AUR are being "air-dropped"
ThickAsThieves: in the mailbox? to be stolen?
mircea_popescu: lnovy ty.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves prolly some website thing
ThickAsThieves: "MazaCoin is a fork of ZetaCoin and unlike Bitcoin, is inflationary, making it possible for new coins to be mined over time."
ThickAsThieves: what is Asicminer mining then?
mircea_popescu: old coins
nubbins`: heh.
mircea_popescu: what's an asshole brother lnovy ?!
lnovy: mircea_popescu: that was just a quick to-be-funny reaction
lnovy: i failed obviously
mircea_popescu: interesting concept nevertheless.
lnovy: indeed
ThickAsThieves: it's when you bump assholes with a guy, swapping anal cooties, making you asshole brothers
nubbins`: poop swap
nubbins`: like blood brothers
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ozbot: A Letter From Ray Jasper, Who Is About to Be Executed
ozbot: Safello launches complete redesign of website as it gears up for European expans
mircea_popescu: which one is this one ?
kakobrekla: >Safello announces a $600k investment round lead by prominent Bitcoin advocates Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver joined by Blockchain.info CEO Nicolas Cary and angel investors Victor & Victor. The Sweden based company also launches a complete redesign of their website to gear up for their European expansion as the safest way into Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that thing is beyond fake.
ThickAsThieves: the letter is fake?
mircea_popescu: unless you're telling me an unemployable black kid that supplemented his dole payments with robbery somehow went to vassar while in a texas jail.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: really badly written, too. "When I first responded to you, I didn't think that it would cause people to reach out to me and voice their opinions. I've never been on the internet in my life and I'm not fully aware of the social circles on the internet, so it was a surprise to receive reactions so quickly."
ThickAsThieves: not sure it matters
ozbot: Journalist Harrasses Man Believing Him to be Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto - CoinChomp
mircea_popescu: "here's what some libertard that's been on the internet all her lyf thinks a guy who's not would say"
ThickAsThieves: maybe he has a mentor, i dunno
mircea_popescu: yeah. a mentor that's never talked to anyone who's not online.
mircea_popescu: nor gives a shit about anything but how the story should read for maximal impact in the mouthbreather herd.
deadweasel: ^ this is what I saw in this and the first letter.
deadweasel: it's as if the anti death penalty league wrote it
mike_c: he slit the guy's throat. but the guy didn't die and his accomplice finished him off.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23003 @ 0.00087007 = 20.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.60181866 = 3.0091 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 124 @ 0.63307968 = 78.5019 BTC [+] {31}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+]
dexX7: boom
benkay`: dexX7: mystical buttcorns
ThickAsThieves: dats a lotta AM
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.64846153 = 8.43 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00574967 = 0.4312 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 730 @ 0.00435204 = 3.177 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00438863 = 0.6583 BTC [+] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00438915 = 0.1317 BTC [+] {4}
the20year2: RENT will start trading/non-IPO trading tomorrow around noon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07488998 = 0.674 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07489405 = 0.4494 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00574988 = 1.725 BTC [-] {4}
benkay`: how much of a selloff are you expecting, the20year2?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0863266 = 0.259 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 617 @ 0.00574993 = 3.5477 BTC [+]
mike_c: ;;calc (78534-24564)*0.0055
gribble: 296.835
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00444777 = 0.1557 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 635 @ 0.00574995 = 3.6512 BTC [+] {2}
benkay`: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (674 shares, 3.70700000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (11826 shares, 65.04300000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (53970 shares, 296.83500000 BTC)
mike_c: 300 btc. not sure what to make of that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00575 = 0.46 BTC [+]
benkay`: the20year2: are you willing to lend me some shares?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00579947 = 0.2958 BTC [+] {4}
the20year2: Depends on how much money you send me
the20year2: Benkay, i'm expecting price to rise to .006 or .007
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.0055 = 0.2585 BTC
benkay`: i'll put collateral on deposit with someone, not you
benkay`: maybe i just want to do a bitbet
the20year2: You were the one asking for handouts :D
benkay`: hey, watch your mouth.
benkay`: i will collateralize.
benkay`: ThickAsThieves: ping
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 16 @ 0.04399999 = 0.704 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00589 = 0.1414 BTC [+]
benkay`: the20year2: assume i have btc and can collateralize a position. are you willing to lend me shares?
mike_c: what are you going to do with them? you can't sell them until ipo is off. tough to short if it gaps down.
the20year2: I guess so? You'd have to send me more details
the20year2: IPO ends tomorrow at noon
benkay`: mike_c: pm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1088 @ 0.00446484 = 4.8577 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 912 @ 0.00449559 = 4.1 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.00089565 = 0.3583 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6466 = 1.9398 BTC [-] {2}
r3wt: ;;bcauth
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
r3wt: ;;bcauth r3wt
gribble: Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7022ce55a1580f78f4ef9c40738c3eb47ee2495c1571a59ea183aedd
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00589786 = 0.3539 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0059585 = 0.2383 BTC [+] {2}
B007: I wonder if people will start showing up at his house now asking for bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00449998 = 0.432 BTC [+] {4}
Phraust: or with $5 wrenches.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00449999 = 1.035 BTC [+]
B007: I'm temped to show up myself lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07000012 = 2.59 BTC [-] {4}
B007: ok
mike_c: no point. either he is the guy and deserves some respect, or he isn't and you're annoying some stranger
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.0055 = 0.1595 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 118 @ 0.00555319 = 0.6553 BTC [+] {3}
dexX7: at that time about 20-25k btc were on the books.. wouldn't have assumed that there was so much sleeping money/coins x.x
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07599992 = 0.608 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 72 @ 0.0055 = 0.396 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.07798294 = 1.8716 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 444 @ 0.0045 = 1.998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.66514997 = 21.2848 BTC [+] {14}
pLambert: what is S.MNKY going to be?
nubbins`: a barrel of fun?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 219 @ 0.0055 = 1.2045 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00598999 = 0.617 BTC [+] {6}
mike_c: s.mnky is going to implement the infinite monkey protocol.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4792 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: prolly ends up as reference RFC implementation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu: consider asking MPOE-PR to announce on trolltalk that S.MNKY is hiring :DDD
rithm: hi
nubbins`: jcpham was a better nick
rithm: yo mam
ozbot: Rhythm is a dancer - YouTube
mike_c: genius jurov. put the forum to good use for once.
rithm: satoshi convinced me
ThickAsThieves: sup benkay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00599999 = 0.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07999397 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 102 @ 0.0055 = 0.561 BTC
nubbins`: i forgot how much i like skinny puppy
nubbins`: some of their earlier shit is insane
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005999 = 0.12 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov lol maybe an idea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00449991 = 0.1665 BTC [-]
ozbot: BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014
mircea_popescu: today in "Bitcoin People Are Insane" :
mircea_popescu: guy that has no idea how to work cmegroup.com wants to bet on the oil price
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00449991 = 0.5175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00449991 = 0.3105 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Everyone who is involved in Bitcoin understands the strength of the design." do they?
nubbins`: depends on your definition of "involved" :D
ThickAsThieves: bleh, buncha hot air text
mircea_popescu: garzik trying to undo piles of piled idiocy.
nubbins`: twist: leah mcgrath goodman is satoshi nakamoto
ThickAsThieves: and married to John Goodman
Namworld: Well I hear government backing of a fiat currency gives value, but faith does not give innate value to a fiat like BTC. Apparently if I disagree and claim both are fiat, without innate value and purely faith based valuation, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Namworld: It's nice to know only faith in government counts.
mircea_popescu: you're preachin' to the choir.
ThickAsThieves: "Jeff Garzik is an engineer, blogger, futurist and entrepreneur. "
nubbins`: futurist!
ThickAsThieves: how do i become a futurisy?
Namworld: I know.
nubbins`: first step is to become a wizard
ThickAsThieves: can i also be a pastist
nubbins`: second step is to call yourself a futurist instead of a wizard
ThickAsThieves: or a presenist
nubbins`: pastists are called throwbacks
nubbins`: or codgers if they're really good at it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pastits are the guys who attack the pasties to the tits.
jurov: not 1337 enough.. should be phuturist instead
nubbins`: attack with scissors
mircea_popescu: or maybe a fartist
mircea_popescu: like a far seeing fart artist
nubbins`: god DAMN there are some good smells coming up the stairs
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1695879/plain/)
nubbins`: i've been boiling some pork bones for 4 hours now
nubbins`: i suspect p just lifted the lid to stir
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.0055 = 0.66 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00599 = 0.1198 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63000201 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04250006 = 0.1275 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: would wear
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 912 @ 0.00052059 = 0.4748 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 204 @ 0.0055 = 1.122 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07249999 = 0.725 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.0055 = 0.3575 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07260011 = 0.6534 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00519874 = 0.104 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Is S.MNKY hiring a futurist?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
benkay: it's your MNKY moment, BingoBoingo.
benkay: MNK(S.)Y
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
jurov: BingoBoingo: no, that would be X.MNKY
mircea_popescu: "i feel the need to add this otherwise lame alt exchange pre-announcement
mircea_popescu: thread to today's notes due to my distinct impression i'm watching signals
mircea_popescu: pass through a colony of penguins."
BingoBoingo: jurov: Ah.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw, any atc sold into your bid ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not yet
mircea_popescu: wonder what all the miners are doing with their loot.
BingoBoingo: Well, someone bought an ask.
ozbot: Bitcoin Discussion
mircea_popescu: kinda lovely how the spirit oif the discussion has changed.
mircea_popescu: from 5 threads hyping the OMG SATOSHI FOUND angle we're now on to "omg media lied".
benkay: mircea_popescu: cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/06_you-have-not-found-satoshi.html
dexX7: don't forget about all those "this poor guys life is scwered, people will murder him 1000 %" posts
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: going on 6 hours now
nubbins`: still not sure what i'm doing with it ;(
mircea_popescu: benkay pretty much
mircea_popescu: nubbins` add beans, bottle the gas.
rithm: lol
nubbins`: you can see the high water mark on the side of the pot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.00439999 = 0.4796 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: nubbins`: soak oats overnight in that shit
benkay: savory oatmeal
nubbins`: ehh, not a fan of oatmean
nubbins`: *oatmeal
benkay: steel cut oats?
benkay: the nubbly things?
mircea_popescu: "Yesterday the CEO of Bitcoin got bankrupt, today they found the founder...."
nubbins`: if i can find bean paste, i might make 감자탕 (gamjatang)
mircea_popescu: no srsly, i'm like fucking proud of the forum suddenly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0433988 = 0.1302 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it's like... +1000 points
nubbins`: only 8k short
rithm: yep
mircea_popescu: sometyhing like that
mircea_popescu: pirateat40 hey i hear pirateat40 repaid your bitxoinz
mircea_popescu: " @stacyherbert · 3h Great work by #KeiserReport regular @truth_eater. I had NO idea she was working on the story of 21st century!"
mircea_popescu: lol is there any shit keiser fails to taste ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63000201 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0433988 = 0.217 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i lel'd
ozbot: Dorian S. Nakamoto (DorianSatoshi) on Twitter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00087007 = 1.8271 BTC [+]
ozbot: Twitter / DorianSatoshi: Hypothetically speaking, how ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63899999 = 1.917 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63899999 = 1.278 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 547 @ 0.0055 = 3.0085 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07585076 = 0.6068 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: dat am1
nubbins`: HEADING STRAIGHT BACK TO 5
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.07450096 = 2.384 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0730001 = 0.73 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0434 = 0.3906 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "In the late 60's, Termen left spy work and got a university job doing acoustical research. One day a visiting Western journalist ran in to Termen, and unfortunately reported the fact that he was still alive in the New York Times.
mircea_popescu: This was too much for Termen's boss, who took all of Termen's musical instruments outside and chopped them up with an axe. “Electricity is only good for making electric chairs,” he explained. And that was the end of Termen's university career.
mircea_popescu: This is what oppression often looks like. No one called from Moscow and told this guy to destroy Termen's work. But he didn't care to stick his neck out, and took a proactive approach."
mircea_popescu: this is quite relevant for bitcoin. living in an oppressive, totalitarian regime does not mean obama orders your business destroyed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04345 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it simply means that you can't find a us bank that'' work with you.
mircea_popescu: because "aml", which is to say... didn't care to stick its neck out.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 22 @ 0.10885293 = 2.3948 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.005999 = 0.132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00087095 = 3.9628 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00087013 = 16.4455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6492121 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00086899 = 10.2975 BTC [-] {3}
gribble: Time since last block: 8 minutes and 16 seconds ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 215 @ 0.0055 = 1.1825 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07399999 = 0.37 BTC [-]
wao-ender: heh aml
wao-ender: I still wondering how I will evade it.
wao-ender: oh, co-operate, right.
B007: http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ someone needs to bet a bunch of bitcoin >1000
ozbot: BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD
mircea_popescu: that promises to be an interesting bet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 34 @ 0.005 = 0.17 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mike_c lol
mircea_popescu: im sure someone will eventually.
mircea_popescu: nice arbitrage op there anyway, the 10k bet shows 3:2, the 1k bet shows 100:1 ?!
ThickAsThieves: lol did you guys see the Satoshi free lunch thing?
ozbot: Instagram
mircea_popescu: yeah pretty good troll acct.
ThickAsThieves: for reals
ThickAsThieves: he chose one reporter
ThickAsThieves: to go to sushi
mircea_popescu: and started derping on twitter
mircea_popescu: makes perfect sens
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0055 = 0.1265 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 180 @ 0.0055 = 0.99 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13593 @ 0.00086856 = 11.8063 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: so, has the woman behind the satoshi crap gone to burn in the same hell jayson blair is in ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15276 @ 0.00087125 = 13.3092 BTC [+] {3}
dexX7: woah this is sick. so many cameras. the whole day i was thinking "pf.. who cares, as if one of the redditors and whosoever would ever leave his house" :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25524 @ 0.00087213 = 22.2602 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.624 = 1.248 BTC [-] {2}
cads: so we've allegedly discovered the identity of satoshi?
BingoBoingo: No, Newsweek just accelerated its slow death
asciilifeform: cads: might as well say that we finally learned that lbj had kennedy plugged.
BingoBoingo: I thought DeGaul plugged Kennedy?
cads: I don't understand what you guys are saying - do you guys think the man is the originator of BTC?
dub: yes
dub: undoubtedly
asciilifeform: cads: there is no reason whatsoever to think so.
mike_c: no way. there is extensive lexical analysis proving mp is satoshi.
cads: asciilifeform: I don't see how anyone could really reveal that they are in fact satoshi
asciilifeform: cads: signing with a known satoshi addr key might be a good start.
cads: oh yeah, I am an idiot
dub: or are you satoshi trying to throw us off teh scent!
BingoBoingo: Just as likely actual Satoshi disliked this Satoshi and chose his name to reserve that seat in the Gasenwagen
cads: the part that makes the article high entertainment is where they reveal that the man's name is actually satoshi nakamoto
cads: once you buy that this could be possible the rest of the article does down like a glass of water :)
dexX7: here is another close up picture http://i.imgur.com/GmNiee5.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47316 @ 0.00087417 = 41.3622 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: that poor guy
Duffer1: he's going to have newsies camped out on his lawn
dexX7: yup
asciilifeform: 'He might turn the speech into the usual denunciation of
asciilifeform: traitors and thought-criminals, but that was a little too
asciilifeform: obvious, while to invent a victory at the front, or some
asciilifeform: triumph of over-production in the Ninth Three-Year Plan, might
asciilifeform: complicate the records too much. What was needed was a piece of
asciilifeform: pure fantasy. Suddenly there sprang into his mind, ready made
asciilifeform: as it were, the image of a certain Comrade Ogilvy, who had
asciilifeform: recently died in battle, in heroic circumstances. There were
asciilifeform: occasions when Big Brother devoted his Order for the Day to
asciilifeform: commemorating some humble, rankand-file Party member whose life
asciilifeform: and death he held up as an example worthy to be followed. Today
asciilifeform: he should commemorate Comrade Ogilvy. It was true that there
asciilifeform: was no such person as Comrade Ogilvy, but a few lines of print
asciilifeform: and a couple of faked photographs would soon bring him into
asciilifeform: existence.
asciilifeform: Winston thought for a moment, then pulled the speakwrite
asciilifeform: towards him and began dictating in Big Brother's familiar
asciilifeform: style: a style at once military and pedantic, and, because of a
asciilifeform: trick of asking questions and then promptly answering them
asciilifeform: ('What lessons do we learn from this fact, comrades ? The
asciilifeform: lesson -- which is also one of the fundamental principles of
asciilifeform: Ingsoc -- that,' etc., etc.), easy to imitate.
asciilifeform: At the age of three Comrade Ogilvy had refused all toys
asciilifeform: except a drum, a sub-machine gun, and a model helicopter. At
asciilifeform: six -- a year early, by a special relaxation of the rules -- he
asciilifeform: had joined the Spies, at nine he had been a troop leader. At
asciilifeform: eleven he had denounced his uncle to the Thought Police after
asciilifeform: overhearing a conversation which appeared to him to have
asciilifeform: criminal tendencies. At seventeen he had been a district
asciilifeform: organizer of the Junior Anti-Sex League. At nine teen he had
asciilifeform: designed a hand-grenade which had been adopted by the Ministry
asciilifeform: of Peace and which, at its first trial, had killed thirtyone
asciilifeform: Eurasian prisoners in one burst. At twenty-three he had
asciilifeform: perished in action. Pursued by enemy jet planes while flying
asciilifeform: over the Indian Ocean with important despatches, he had
asciilifeform: weighted his body with his machine gun and leapt out of the
asciilifeform: helicopter into deep water, despatches and all -- an end, said
asciilifeform: Big Brother, which it was impossible to contemplate without
asciilifeform: feelings of envy. Big Brother added a few remarks on the purity
asciilifeform: and single-mindedness of Comrade Ogilvy's life. He was a total
asciilifeform: abstainer and a nonsmoker, had no recreations except a daily
dub: ccccombo breaker
asciilifeform: hour in the gymnasium, and had taken a vow of celibacy,
asciilifeform: believing marriage and the care of a family to be incompatible
asciilifeform: with a twenty-four-hour-a-day devotion to duty. He had no
asciilifeform: subjects of conversation except the principles of Ingsoc, and
asciilifeform: no aim in life except the defeat of the Eurasian enemy and the
asciilifeform: hunting-down of spies, saboteurs, thoughtcriminals, and
asciilifeform: traitors generally.
asciilifeform: Winston debated with himself whether to award Comrade
asciilifeform: Ogilvy the Order of Conspicuous Merit: in the end he decided
asciilifeform: against it because of the unnecessary cross-referencing that it
asciilifeform: would entail.'
asciilifeform: - the obvious place
asciilifeform: '... Comrade Ogilvy, unimagined an hour ago, was now a fact. It struck him as curious that you could create dead men but not living ones. Comrade Ogilvy, who had never existed in the present, now existed in the past, and when once the act of forgery was forgotten, he would exist just as authentically, and upon the same evidence, as Charlemagne or Julius Caesar.'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 363 @ 0.0055 = 1.9965 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00087604 = 7.4463 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62100002 BTC [-]
btclovernick: all my coinbase bitcoins have been stolen
btclovernick: can you hep me
asciilifeform: btclovernick: how could we possibly help you ?
btclovernick: i dunno
btclovernick: e to reclaim or retrieve these funds, as they've been sent outside of Coinbase and are irreversible transfers. Whoever withdrew these did leave a trail however, and logged the IP addresses 93.174.90.30, 212.227.102.198, and 37.221.171.236 in our system.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.621 = 1.863 BTC [-] {2}
btclovernick: can u pls help me
dexX7: tell about your security messurements, so at least you may learn something for the future
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07499799 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
mike_c: who is "our" system?
dexX7: 2fa enabled? mail account used for other services? did you reuse the password? windows, linux?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00087864 = 2.6359 BTC [+]
ozbot: AP Exclusive: Man denies he’s Bitcoin founder - The Washington Post
MisterE: I wish they would leave the old guy alone
MisterE: ffs they printed his house name of his whole family then go on to say he's worth 400 mil
asciilifeform: MisterE: there is exactly zero evidence that the man with the unlucky name had anything to do with bitcoin.
MisterE: yea they might even bothering the wrong guy!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07770001 = 0.3885 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.07899999 = 1.422 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07899999 = 0.553 BTC [+]
dexX7: http://imgur.com/2FvwEK0WC lol i never saw this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4864 @ 0.000187 = 0.9096 BTC [-]
diametric: I suppose his account could have been compromised, but thats pretty interesting.
diametric: How long ago was it he surfaced?
ozbot: Satoshi Nakamoto's Discussions - P2P Foundation
dexX7: woah
diametric: Thread on it
diametric: asciilifeform: when was the last time he surfaced?
dexX7: 2009
diametric: No I'm pretty sure I saw posts from him in 2010
asciilifeform: yeah that was the last i recall
cazalla: maybe someone at gmx did a password reset and accessed his email?
diametric: Its entirely possible
asciilifeform: maybe one of you with an account on btctalk should ask him to repost, signed
dexX7: on btctalk?
asciilifeform: on 'p2p foundation'
diametric: You guys heard about the car chase? hah
diametric: And the video of faux-Satoshi wanting his free lunch? I thought it was hilarious, I like him
dexX7: du dum... Your profile details must be approved by the Administrator before you can become a member of P2P Foundation
dexX7: it's much more likely that his account was not hacked and this post is legit, right?
diametric: dexX7: sort of.
diametric: hacking the account in less than 24 hours to make that single post is unlikely. The hackers sitting on the account for such a moment seems unlikely also. I'm thinking either its the real Satoshi, or the admins of p2pfoundation fucking with everyone.
diametric: the last bit is more plausible.
dexX7: lol
BingoBoingo: Probably the site admins, it isn't signed
BingoBoingo: No GPG signature, can't be authentic
diametric: Do we have record of his signature? My bitcoin history is bad
BingoBoingo: diametric: His public key is out there
diametric: happen to have a link? I'd like to have it on hand in case such a message surfaces
diametric: even more interesting is the guy that caught it
diametric: Mere minutes after the reply was posted
diametric: Literally two minutes after "Satoshi" posted, a reddit account surfaced and posted it to /r/bitcoin.
diametric: BingoBoingo: cool thanks
diametric: asciilifeform: So what do you think?
ozbot: Henry Kissinger: To settle the Ukraine crisis, start at the end - The Washington Post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 35 @ 0.00493748 = 0.1728 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00087821 = 22.8774 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: dexX7, diametric: 'Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32)'
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell asciilifeform, well Bitcoin was originally released as a Windows build and source
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0427 = 0.2562 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 665.09, vol: 10214.42164297 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 646.755, vol: 5297.68096 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 665.46260657, vol: 6973.2690937 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 663.55, vol: 28.99637523 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 645.71465, vol: 5259.74100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 670.0829, vol: 7.41631627 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 667.0125, vol: 42.51042954 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0875 = 0.2625 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Amazing Drama
BingoBoingo: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
ozbot: 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 1003 blocks | Estimated Change: 6.7063% in 6d 11h 50m 12s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10125 @ 0.00018799 = 1.9034 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0426 = 0.1704 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.04203929 = 0.9249 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07799999 = 0.156 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.042 = 0.294 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25813 @ 0.00087705 = 22.6393 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00087944 = 2.0227 BTC [+]
Duffer1: i'm surprised Gov has come out against aero but not magicjack...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 545 @ 0.0055 = 2.9975 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02200012 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 79 @ 0.02020405 = 1.5961 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 317 @ 0.00327747 = 1.039 BTC [+] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 283 @ 0.00392118 = 1.1097 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07955882 = 0.9547 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00439995 = 0.308 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0201002 = 0.1608 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13690 @ 0.00087929 = 12.0375 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02349962 = 0.235 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00087944 = 14.159 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00087794 = 41.2632 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 63 @ 0.00409938 = 0.2583 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 36 @ 0.00411732 = 0.1482 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.04200003 = 1.134 BTC [-] {2}
artifexd: .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 280 @ 0.0055 = 1.54 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
ozbot: Alleged "Bitcoin Inventor" Has No Idea What You're Talking About
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07994131 = 0.4796 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07994832 = 0.3997 BTC [+] {2}
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